Is Grossman the worst QB to ever start the Super Bowl?
 

I really can't think of anyone worse...who QB'ed the LA Rams against the Steelers? Even Kerry Collins was better than Grossman.

Yes

Yes.

Worse than Kerry Collins, worse than Trent Dilfer.

Worse than Vince Ferragamo, if that's who you were referring to, Hamas.

The worst. Period.

Vince Ferragamo QB'ed the Rams...and even he was better than Grossman.

Ben Rothlisburger?

Roethlisberger is a mediocre to below average QB. Grossman makes JP Losman look like Brett Favre.

He's the dumbest.

That's a lie.

Only our secondary could make Losman look like Favre. :spock:

grossman is gonna stink it up.

Damn. I've racked my brain, and the only other I can think of is Chris Chandler, and even he was light years better than Grossman.

Grossman is horrible. Absolutely horrible.

Yeah...he was made of glass, but he was pretty good in 98 and 99.

I'm waiting for Bob Sanders to pick off a few passes from him. Freeney will be up his ass all day too.

Dilfer and Chandler came to mind. Grossman's on about that level of SB quarterbacks.

As all good teams do, our D is stepping up and doing what they need to when it really matters.

Grossman does not stand a chance against the Big Colt Machine.

Kerry Collins - NY Giants.

Nuff said.

Elway. Elway was the worst, and don't you people ever forget it.

I think Dilfer was in his league but I do think wutamess or Phil or hell even I could do better job, gack he is as bad as it gets.

Dave

Peyton Manning is the worst. He will shoke like a baby will a banana.

Fishbone Manning is your bigger worry.

Steve Grogen

When I lived in Atlanta the local talk show guys called him Chrystal Chandalier because he was injured so often.

Hey, at least Grossman didn't throw any picks or fumble. That's a step in the right direction.

Neil o'donnel wasnt very good either.

I was going to say this, but I wanted you to.

I thought about him also, but still think Grossman is the bottom of the barrel.

We are playing in the SB... you will be home watching it. Remember that.... Go Chiefs.

May god let let Peyton's head implode this week.

I thought Tony Eason started that Bowl and not Grogan?

DEATH TO MANNING

:cuss:

I know Eason played, but can't remember if he got hurt early, or Grogan got hurt late.

I think you're right. I think Eason got hurt early.


EDIT: Eason started, went 0-6 and I believe came out injured.

living in Chicago now...

I just wish my family had stayed here while I was a kid...

It would be a lot easier to be a Bears fan than it is to be a Chiefs fan...

Thanks. You're a pal.

It's hard not to root for them after being at the game today.

Damon Huard is so sexy.

my roommate's a cop...he was working the game...said it was awesome. I was working but saw most of the game...

Well, considering the alternative.......

Seriously, glad you had a good time. You know how much I hate the Rams, but I got a chance to go to the 99 NFC championship game, and I felt the same way at the time.

I thought you had decided to give your ticket to a friend?

and I wish the Chiefs had someone like Rex Grossman...at least the Bears have a future at QB...right now we have Brodie Croyle and Casey Printers...which isn't too pretty.

He's one of the 3 or 4 worst starting QB's in the league. I'd much much much rather have Croyle than that sack of shit.

The entire NFL is mediocre... look at the sloppy Super Bowl last year. Parity has kinda become medocrity. The Bears and Colts aren't horrible teams, but they're a team with a QB who had the most bad QB rating games in the league, versus the team with the 32nd ranked run defense. Without looking it up I'm guessing that's the first time the league's worst run defense has made the Super Bowl.

I'm surprised you put 3-4 below him.......

Who off the top of your head?

The guy I offered my ticket to decided it was too much of an imposition on me to go to the trouble of getting the tickets and not get to enjoy the game. I tried to talk him out of it, but he made up his mind.

Of course, since he's a Saints fan, it worked out just fine for him in the end; had he attended, he'd have just paid $150 to watch his team get slaughtered.

And the guy who went with me, a life-long Bears fan, had the time of his life. It felt great being able to contribute to that.

Rex Grossman really isn't that bad, in essence, he's almost a rookie QB. He's been hurt his entire career thus far, and he's going to get better. His problem is that he makes bad decisions, all novice QB's do. If I had to pick between Huard, Green, Croyle, and Grossman for next year I think I'd actually pick Grossman.

Leinart: better
Smith: Better
Bulger: Better
Hasselbeck: Better

Vick: Better
Brees: Light years better
Delhomme: Better
Simms: Shitty, but just a little better

T. Jackson: Worse
Kitna: A little better (sadly)
Favre: Better

McNabb: Better
Romo: A homo, but better
E. Manning: Sadly, even he's better
J. Campbell: Promising...and better

Green: Better
Rivers: Better
Brooks/Walter: Worse
Cutler: Better

Carr: About the same
Garrard: Better
Manning: C'mon
V. Young: Better

Harrington: Worse, but still outplayed him H2H
Pennington: Better
Brady: C'mon
Losman: Still better

Frye: Worse
Roethlisberger: A little better
Palmer: Better
McNair: Horrible, washed up, but still...better.

I don't think that's true at all...

He has a lot of potential.

He had some really bad games but this is really his first season as a full time starter.

I'd rather have Grossman then any of our QB's...and it's not even close.

Yeah, that's not a lot of fun, I can speak from experience. Figures my first losing road game ever was in the playoffs......

Go Bears.

Option right! Go!

(and keep in mind I watched every single Bears game this year, so it's not like I don't get the opportunity to see the guy play)...

His problem is inconsistency. He either has a very solid game, or a very poor game. The dude had 6 career starts entering this season. I think he gets a few years before he can be considered 'trash.'

And besides, he's in the Super Bowl starting at QB, isn't he?

Oh, and, when the Bears needed him most today he stepped up and made some FANTASTIC throws.

Grossman has two good RBs, two good WRs, a very good line, an above average TE, a very very good defense, and he still sucks ass.

The guy has been in the league 3 years. Mentally, he should not make these dumb motherfucker decisions...had it been 3 games, then yes, but this guy makes 8th grade throws at the NFL level.

I could argue for Frye, Harrington and Walter. I think they could all do better than Grossman if playing for the Bears. JMO.

Agree 100% on Tavaris Jackson.

You fall in love with the shittiest QBs.

He threw two nice hook patterns, and lobbed a pass up there that decent CB would have picked off. It was a terrible pass...

Your hero finished 11-26 against anything but a withering pass rush.

Oh I thought about it...but I wanted to be objective-ish

Grossman is my hero?

Hahahaha.

All I said was, he's better than anything (for the future) that we have on our roster.

We have two 33+ QB's and two shitty non roster spot deserving QB's on our team!

Grossman has shown in plenty of games he has what it takes to be an NFL QB...

I don't understand how so many people can pass judgement on Croyle. (either way) We haven't even seen the guy play yet...

Well, Grossman has played fine in the playoffs so far. He had 5 great games to start the season, had a lull, and played pretty well at the end of the season. Maybe he's just streaky? I'm not saying he's a great QB, or ever will be, but I think he can manage into a formidable starter in time.

I don't know if I'd take Grossman over Croyle.

I'm excited about Croyle and believe he has more talent than Grossman could possibly pray to ala for.

I dont know. What about Joe Kapp?

most of these guys commenting on him have watched him play MAYBE three times all season long...

So, in other words, they have no clue what they're talking about.

and did anyone mention Stan Humphries?

How many times have you seen Croyle play this season?

That's not true, I've watched the fair majority of Bears games this year. I like Grossman, he's got a good arm, but he makes some really bad decisions sometimes.

They're clairvoyant.

If the guy ever starts for the Chiefs, starts every game for an entire season, and then starts the first game of the next season after that
...I'll be totally shocked.

Croyle isn't any good. Wasn't any good in college, either.

Well Grossman was a first rounder, I think it's a little early to tell either way as of yet.

There's my new sig......

Griese will wipe the floor with Manning.

His offensive coordinator, Ron Turner, doesn't help the matter.

Why the Bears pass so much with two solid RB's and a terriffic defense is beyond me, anyways.

Grossman is young and made rookie mistakes on a consistent basis all year long. Since he's essentially a rookie, I think that's ok, for now...

They compared his year this year, to Drew Brees' first year in San Diego, and the numbers were pretty identical.

Drew Brees turned out ok, didn't he?

And starting in the Super Bowl can do nothing but help Rex's confidence. If they win, I could see Rex becoming one of the best QB's in the leauge over the next 5 years. Confidence goes a long ways in the NFL if you're a QB.

I watched parts of all of Grossman's games this year...it's the benefit of Sunday Ticket.

God, I hope your right.

hahahaha.

Now that is funny.

In terms of raw talent, Grossman has more talent than any QB the Chiefs have ever had.

Talent isn't a question with Grossman, it's decision making.

There was a reason he was a 1st round pick and Croyle was a 3rd round pick...

Bah Croyle would be fine, he didn't have that much in college. He's a gunslinger type of QB. It's difficult to judge a guy that only came in for a few meaningless mop-up minutes this year. I said I would take Grossman over Croyle next year because of the talent level and experience Grossman has had. Like it or not, Grossman took a team to the Super Bowl, is a first rounder, and has experience under his belt. Not that we would ever have a chance to have Grossman really, but it's fun to argue about it.

what I don't like about Rex is the way he throws the ball...

His release is awkward and gets on my nerves...

Drew Brees is intelligent. Rex Grossman isn't.

Grossman seems to have the tools and skills, but his problem is in his head. He makes a bad decision, and he seems to have trouble forgetting about it.

That kinda sounds like, "There's a reason he's been a backup his whole career".

Yeah, ok.

I bet you've listened to a lot of Rex's interviews, haven't you?!

The guy is very intelligent and is the ultimate team player. He acknowledges is faults and bites the bullet when he's at fault. He understands he makes boneheaded plays, but seriously, the dude has 22 career starts now I believe. Give him a friggin' break.

Besides, you saying he isn't intelligent is just downright hilarious. You have no CLUE.