Yahoo Sports says Trent will have to compete with Croyle
 

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"Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Trent Green was told by team president Carl Peterson that he can come back to the team next season, but will have to compete for the starting job with second-year quarterback Brodie Croyle and will have to take a pay cut to return."

Compete with Croyle for the starting job? Hmmm.

Its Yahoo Sports. So lets wait and see.

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Does that mean throwing the ball into the receivers' hands?

King Carl is probably setting this up to where Trent either retires or accepts a trade. Not a bad move but Trent was "The Man" here for a 3-4 year run. Worked in the community. Kept his nose clean. I hope he goes out with as much class as he has shown us off and on the field.

I have no doubt he will.

So Huard will either be backing up Trent or Croyle, and not starting? Even with a sweet 3 year deal worth 7.5 mil?

...it's good to be Huard.

Where's Hootie?

Is this insulting to Green? Telling a veteran QB like Green that he's going to have to take a big cut and compete with an unknown third round pick who played like crap in his only limited NFL experience?

Well at least that are totally throwing away the season by starting Mr. Fumbles under pressure Huard.

CHIEFNJ? "played like crap in his only limited NFL experience?" Are you talking about Huard before he played the weak NFC West?

Seems like SOP in the NFL. See Culpepper, Brees, Plummer etc etc

He is probably in bed crying with Huard.

At some point the team needs to move forward rather than trying to live in the past. It's always difficult when the young guy comes in and makes the old guys obsolete. Happens all the time in my line of work...that's business.

I hope it is insulting to him, and I hope he does something about it.

I agree Trent should go. Carl should say - you're free to negotiate with other teams. The problem is this scenario is that nobody has made Green obsolete yet.

If Green is competing with Croyle, it's for the #2 spot behind Huard, the starter.

Green has likely been told that the #1 is between Huard and Croyle.

Ball is in Greens court.....

I hope Croyle wins the starting gig. Next year is the perfect year to get him experience.

I hope you are kidding.... The last thing the Chiefs need is Huard as the starter...

Does anyone know if Croyle is working out with some WRs this off-season..it would be nice if he went to Cali. and worked with Gonzo and Moon ...

Except that's not what the article says:

Competing with Croyle for the starting spot...sounds like Huard is out of the mix as a starter, and will back up whoever starts, Trent or Croyle.

I wouldn't mind having Croyle sit and learn one more year, even if he's the #3. He can go full bore for the starting job in '08.

If Trent stays, I would imagine they go back to what they said, intially, at the end of the season: it's open competition between Huard, Trent, and Croyle through spring and camp. That's just an assumption, though. I have zero insider knowledge, yet, of what went down during this session.

You learn by doing. Sitting on the bench in 07 means he'll be FULLY ready in 2009.

Croyle should be the starter .

There are some sick throws in that video against elite SEC defenses.

Not that he's close to perfect but we really need to see what we have sooner rather than later.

I'm not at all confident that Croyle is the answer. He has shown zero so far.

Making throws in college doesn't impress me... that was what, 2 years ago? Leaf made throws in college too.

Yeah, he's shown zero so far in all those opportunities he's been given.

I dunno. Parcells should something to the effect that Romo would have been out of football had he been throw in there early on. I think it's one of those things that depends on the guy in question. I'd just as soon have Croyle start, but it's not a no-brainer to throw him into the fire if he's not ready.

It's not like he was just drafted. He carried the clipboard for a full season.

And we're changing the offense according to Herm, why teach it to two guys approaching 40?

Like my prediction on ****ler by mid season last year.

Croyle will be in not sure about Mid season? Alot depends on schedule and Huard.

In the end, having all of our QB's going into training camp knowing they have to work for the #1, 2, and 3 spots will only help them out by lighting a fire under their collective butts.

If you've got them under contract and you can get Green to take a paycut, then why not have them all compete for the job? Isn't Herm always talking about competition at a position being a good thing? Does it matter if we have a "starter" for next season when where still six months away from training camp? Huard and Green really aren't that different from each other. They are about the same age, they both know the offense inside and out, and their on-field performance is average. Croyle is more or less a rookie. Let the best man win. I can't stand the "his job to lose" or "he's our starter right now" cliches. Have them fight it out and see who "earns" the starting spot. Just an idea.

Won't know until he's tried, and he really hasn't tried yet. He's got a lot of potential, but we need to see about it and the only way is to play him.

He played 3 possessions against the Steelers and looked bad. He looked bad in the preseason too. So far in the Chiefs' uniform he's 9 of 25 for less than 100 yards and 3 INT.

Yeah, his opportunities have definitely been limited and he was a rookie, but it's not like he has given us a lot of reason to think he's going to turn out to be great. I think everyone crowning him the franchise QBOTF is pretty premature.

Competition isn't all that its cracked up to be. This is the NFL - it's a pay to play league. Teams pay lots of money to players and those guys play. Do you think McIntosh is going to have to beat out Svitek?

Competition at QB is especially dangerous because once you have a tight competition there is always a danger of a QB controversy. Other players on the team will have their favorites as well. IMHO, offensive players probably have a lot more respect for Green than they do Herm and Solari. If they think Green deserves the starting spot and he doesn't get it, it could cause lots of locker room problems.

No one's doing that. Everyone just wants to see what he CAN do.

This article's old and outdated.

Everyone looked bad that day against the Steelers. My opinion is, we have not seen anything to make us think one way or another about the kid. That's what needs to happen.

Huard did just sign a 3 year deal, but I haven't heard anything mention this angle yet.....

Its a pretty reasonable contract, his stock is high and I'd think he(Huard) would be tradeable, now that the Chiefs retained his rights....if the Chiefs get Green to take a pay cut, and they didn't trade him.

On the bright side the Croyle to Webb combo clicked that game.

Problem was Huard looked like the second coming of Elway, Montana and Marino combined that game..

With Huards preformance at Pittsburg, He would of made Peyton Manning look like Aaron Brooks.

Yeah, he looked bad after coming into a game where the rest of the team had already been THOROUGHLY demoralized.

I don't know about you, but I'm never fond of being asked to clean up someone else's mess.

Crowning him QBotF is NOT premature. By definition, QBotF is a PROSPECT and that's what Brodie is. At some point, you have to find out if your prospect is worth anything. That time is now.

Robert Geathers did.

this is news?

wow

The one good thing about all this is that presumably Croyle must look really good in practice for the Chiefs to even consider him starting this fall. I mean you don't hear talk that Casey Printers is in the mix, if he is even still on the team, which I don't know and don't really care. Croyle wasn't that high of a draft pick, and he is in the mix to start in his second year, despite not playing at all in year 1. Unless our coaches are complete idiots (sadly, a distinct possibility), Croyle may be forcing their hands with his impressive practices.

Huard came in and played well. We have no idea how good Croyle will or won't do but I'd like to see a lot of him in preseason...

Guess Huard is in the exact same position he has been everywhere else he has played. Never getting the opportunity handed to him. At least he got PAID this time. Guess that is something.

I am a little disappointed that Hootie cant remove his lips from around Huards manhood to come on here and post in Huards defense!

lololololol @ you STILL not being able to realize Huard is the starting QB...no matter what. It won't even be a training camp battle. He's the #1 until he loses it.

There will most CERTAINLY be a training camp battle. The Chiefs want to give Croyle every opportunity to win the job. He'll probably start at LEAST one preseason game.

I'll take any bets that, barring injury, Huard will be opening game starter for the Chiefs.

For the pennies we're paying Huard I'm sure Carl would love to milk him as the starter for a year or two. I also don't think a first time starting QB is going to help convince guys like Shields or Law or Dunn to stick around for one more year.

Tony Gonzalez didn't mention Croyle tonight on TV. He talked about how the team believes in Damon Huard.

I'm guessing they'll stop believing in him when he shows his true colors against good competition.

You don't know anything. Hell, you were on here blathering about how Huard was 6-2 before he played a down in KC.

I know what I saw last year...I'm waiting for him to prove me wrong. I fully expect him to crash and burn. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and want him to succeed. I'm hoping for the best and expecting the worst.

You sound like a vindictive ex...

So far from what I have heard is that they are wanting to give Croyle the majority of the snaps, so Huard is only there if he fails.

Huard was much better than Green last year. Much, much better.

The only thing about Huard was the batted balls. They were ridiculous...

But the dude, when in doubt, threw it up to Tony or Eddie and let them make plays. And it worked.

Green, when in doubt, took a sack or threw it Samie Parker. And it didn't work.

Look, this is why that doesn't make sense:

Why even sign ANY free agents if we're going with Croyle, let alone a 33 year old MLB? It's pointless.

If Carl/Herm planned on starting Croyle, they wouldn't have signed Donnie Edwards. It's that simple. Carl wants to make the playoffs every year, and Herm needs another playoff berth to gain support from the fans...Croyle isn't going to make that happen. Huard is THE guy for at least another year.

I'll bet at the mid-point at the latest Croyle will be the starter

I don't blame the playoff game on Green. I think 4 or 5 guys dropped passes that first half that all should have been hauled in.

But Green definitely did not come back the same Green he was before the hit...

That's why it's "open competiton." There's a distinct possiblity that Croyle could be a better quarterback than Huard right now. He's certainly more talented.

So is Mike Vick...

LMAO, comparing Ron Mexico with Croyle is real valid

Am I the only human being on the face of the planet confounded by all this?

Trent passes for more yards than practically anybody over the past four/five years. Was that an accident? Then he takes a crack on the egg and he's bus fodder all of a sudden.

I'm as confused as a born again Buddhist on Halloween.

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Not much of a bet. This is the way the Chiefs do things, one retread after another.

No, the meat n' taters of the deal he signed is kicking in. We flat out can't afford to pay a QB his age 7+ mil a year to slowly get worse. And he will, he's ancient in NFL years.

Here's what I noticed about the Chiefs over the Trent Green tenure:

Trent Green was successful when the opposing defense had absolutely no idea what was going on. Saunders was so good with mixing up playcalls that Trent, at times with the blocking of Willie/Tait & crew could sit in the pocket and literally make every read.

3rd and 8 could be anything from a Priest draw, to a Priest sweep, to a play-action pass...opposing teams literally had no idea how to stop the Chiefs and Trent Green.

A lot of that was Trent being comfortable with his blindside blocking.

We saw two years ago how Trent played without blocking when Willie was hurt. The Buffalo game is a good example. Larry ran all over the Bills but Trent, without the luxury of having 4 seconds to make his reads, couldn't get rid of the ball or stay away from the costly picks.

This year, it all went into the shitter. Trent was so accustomed to having the time to make his reads that he wasn't able to adjust, deeming him useless to our team. Which is why he should've been yanked for good at halftime of the Oakland game at Arrowhead.

But Herm tries too hard to please the fan base.

I hear we're looking to draft a safety this year...

Trent Green discussion is moot at this point...

I think the Chiefs want to go with Croyle, but Huard is the backup plan if he isn't ready this year.

Good take, and I agree to a point. Herm didn't try TOO hard to please the fans, because if that were the case, he would have switched from the smash mouth offense back to the Air Saunders offense as soon as the rumblings started.

Trent would be the perfect fit in Washington.

If Washington really wanted to win, and have a chance at a Super Bowl, they should be wanting to acquire Trent Green.

I like Campbell. He's young, he's talented, blah blah blah. But he can wait for another year.

Washington isn't any better a team than KC is.

Prop things to Mr. Rausch, Mr. Hootie, and Mr. Brock. Good takes, all. I suppose the Chiefs are one of the things in life that I think about with my heart and not my head part.

Trent's my favorite Chief since DT and it's sad to see him treated like just another player who's hit the wall. We homers are an overly loyal sort.

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Hate to see Green holding a clip-board..but in truth its probably where hes headed..that said, I hope the Kid can play this year and become our future at QB...

Overly loyal. That is one of the biggest traits of a real fan.

Perhaps I can clear it up a bit...
 

Yes, Trent passed for plenty of yards and touchdowns in the last few years but please keep in mind a few facts:

1. Trent looked terrible after the concussion hit
2. We are changing our offense. Perhaps Trent is not suited for the new offense
3. Trent is old
4. Trent is expensive
5. Trent is not really a mobile QB (which our Oline probably requires)
6. We have a young QB that management is eager to try

#2 stands out to me more than anything else.

Samuels is a good LT. Green knows the system.

There is no doubt Green was a good, great QB under Saunders' offense. I think he could play at a high level under his system for another year or two.

Croyle please...

croyle will be the starter next year, unless Green somehow decides to stay.