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Zouk 03-07-2007 06:23 PM

Adam Schefter says we're the favorite for Donnie Edwards
 
On NFL Total Access tonight.

Says it's likely to be a 2 year deal, and that the Packers are our biggest competition for him.

eazyb81 03-07-2007 06:24 PM

DJ, Edwards, and Harris - I like the sound of that.

ChiefsfaninPA 03-07-2007 06:25 PM

Nice. As long as the price is right.

JBucc 03-07-2007 06:26 PM

I don't really want Donnie, but I wouldn't be upset if we signed him to a two year deal. Let him finish his career here and give some tutelage to DJ, Nap, and Fox.

JBucc 03-07-2007 06:27 PM

Oh and we can tell Bell to GTFO.

Extra Point 03-07-2007 06:29 PM

Peterson will make every effort to blame Edwards' agent, so Poz can write about it in "The Amicable Horror 2."

DeezNutz 03-07-2007 06:30 PM

Who moves outside, Harris or Edwards? No way Hermie switches to a
3-4, right? Has he ever run this type of defensive system?

keg in kc 03-07-2007 06:30 PM

Blech.

CoMoChief 03-07-2007 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz
Who moves outside, Harris or Edwards? No way Hermie switches to a
3-4, right? Has he ever run this type of defensive system?


Donnie Edwards played outside when he was previously with us right?

If he didnt he was an OLB in a 3-4 at SD IIRC.

eazyb81 03-07-2007 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz
Who moves outside, Harris or Edwards? No way Hermie switches to a
3-4, right? Has he ever run this type of defensive system?

definitely Donnie moves outside.

Iowanian 03-07-2007 06:35 PM

I still don't think I want Edwards....especially if Harris is in the middle.

I guess he'd be an improvement in coverage, but I hate seeing him being drug down field by running backs.

Mecca 03-07-2007 06:35 PM

Edwards is an OLB in a 4-3 system.....he only played inside in SD because of the 3-4 system that requires the big pass rushers outside.

Buck 03-07-2007 06:35 PM

Adam Schefter said the Chargers would fire AJ Smith after the NFL Draft and sign Pete Carroll.

the Talking Can 03-07-2007 06:36 PM

so we let him go in his prime, then sign him when he's old and we're trying to get younger....

****ING BRILLIANT

Mecca 03-07-2007 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can
so we let him go in his prime, then sign him when he's old and we're trying to get younger....

****ING BRILLIANT

Blame DV and Greg Robinson for that brilliant move......they're the ones who told Carl he sucked and couldn't play in the defense.

Fairplay 03-07-2007 06:38 PM

If Edwards came here and finished out his pro years.

Then made it to the Hall of Fame, i wonder if he would he go in as a Chief?

Mecca 03-07-2007 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay
If Edwards came here and finished out his pro years.

Then made it to the Hall of Fame, i wonder if he would he go in as a Chief?

You don't go into the NFL HOF with a team you just go in.......if you go look at all the players in they're listed with all the teams they played for. Like Montana is listed with both the Chiefs and 49ers for example.

Fairplay 03-07-2007 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
You don't go into the NFL HOF with a team you just go in.......if you go look at all the players in they're listed with all the teams they played for. Like Montana is listed with both the Chiefs and 49ers for example.



Oh, okay, thanks for the info.

Buck 03-07-2007 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay
If Edwards came here and finished out his pro years.

Then made it to the Hall of Fame, i wonder if he would he go in as a Chief?

Yes he would. Hes not a hall of famer though.

crazycoffey 03-07-2007 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsfaninPA
Nice. As long as the price is right.


bingo



Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81
definitely Donnie moves outside.




bingo again.

Fairplay 03-07-2007 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
Yes he would. Hes not a hall of famer though.


Im confused, heh.

the Talking Can 03-07-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Blame DV and Greg Robinson for that brilliant move......they're the ones who told Carl he sucked and couldn't play in the defense.

uh, yeah, I'm aware of that...everyone is...


....the point is that re-signing him would about the stupidest ****ing thing in the world....unless of course we're not really trying to get younger, and we're not really trying to rebuild...in whic case its just Carl spinning our wheels for the 16 year in a row

I hope we give him a 10 year contract....YOUTH MOVEMENT FULL STEAM AHEAD LIKE A STEAMER OUT OF CARL'S ASS

DeezNutz 03-07-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Blame DV and Greg Robinson for that brilliant move......they're the ones who told Carl he sucked and couldn't play in the defense.

First, thanks for the answers guys.

I'm sure you're going to get a lot of this, Mecca, but CP has to show a spine. Tell those idiots to shove it, and keep the talent. Cliche as it may be, let individuals (i.e. talent evaluators) do their jobs. Oh, but I also blame DV and GRob, too. :)

Mecca 03-07-2007 06:43 PM

As long as it's a reasonable contract it won't totally bug me........you can't go young at 22 positions all at once. Especially in this market where a 3-13 results in the entire community not supporting the team.....

Edwards is still productive and can fill a spot for a period while youth is put in other positions.

Buck 03-07-2007 06:44 PM

Edwards is going to the Saints though.

Mecca 03-07-2007 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz
First, thanks for the answers guys.

I'm sure you're going to get a lot of this, Mecca, but CP has to show a spine. Tell those idiots to shove it, and keep the talent. Cliche as it may be, let individuals (i.e. talent evaluators) do their jobs. Oh, but I also blame DV and GRob, too. :)

Carl say no?!?! Carl lets his coaches have to much say that much is obvious hell the 1 time he made the pick DV bitched and moaned about it forever.

I guess it comes down to do you want to give your coach a player he doesn't want.......remember when he did that it took a bunch if injuries before LJ ever saw the field.

Zouk 03-07-2007 06:45 PM

I just think the defense needs leadership. That's what Donnie Edwards' real value would be for the next 2 years.

Fairplay 03-07-2007 06:45 PM

I would think that playing at that position with that many tackles would seem to wear and tear and the body bigtime.

But the guys a stud, maybe he can go a few more and still be productive.

Steve Sewell 03-07-2007 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairplay
If Edwards came here and finished out his pro years.

Then made it to the Hall of Fame, i wonder if he would he go in as a Chief?

Donnie Edwards a HOF LB? I've heard it all...

Buck 03-07-2007 06:50 PM

Why is this thread still going? Donnie Edwards will not be a Chief next year. He will be a Saint, or maybe a Patriot.

Mecca 03-07-2007 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
Why is this thread still going? Donnie Edwards will not be a Chief next year. He will be a Saint, or maybe a Patriot.

Says who.........the Saints and Pats have both already signed a LB.

Buck 03-07-2007 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Says who.........the Saints and Pats have both already signed a LB.

The Chiefs have already signed a LB

Me 1
You 1?

Deberg_1990 03-07-2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Blame DV and Greg Robinson for that brilliant move......they're the ones who told Carl he sucked and couldn't play in the defense.


It was either Edwards or Warfield at the time......still pisses me off and im not even a huge Edwards fan.

I think he can still play and be productive though....it would be a decent move to have him back here a couple of season.

Mecca 03-07-2007 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
The Chiefs have already signed a LB

Me 1
You 1?

NE has no spot for him.....where would he play? In a 3-4 he has to be a MLB and he has to be the smaller one and Bruschi is already in that spot.

The Saints are well generally cheap.....the odds they sign him are slim to me.

HemiEd 03-07-2007 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
I still don't think I want Edwards....especially if Harris is in the middle.

I guess he'd be an improvement in coverage, but I hate seeing him being drug down field by running backs.



Those memories are still pretty fresh for me too. Did he improve any?

Buck 03-07-2007 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
NE has no spot for him.....where would he play? In a 3-4 he has to be a MLB and he has to be the smaller one and Bruschi is already in that spot.

The Saints are well generally cheap.....the odds they sign him are slim to me.

Thats funny because the Saints were the only team who offered us anything for him before the season.

Oh yeah its also funny cause they gave their QB $9 Mil a year with a questionable arm, and gave Reggie Bush more money than the #1 overall pick.

the Talking Can 03-07-2007 06:59 PM

every penny spent on players over 28 is wasted....we aren't a player away from anything but another mediocre midround draft pick

play Croyle, or Huard, and lose and get a top pick and then get better and then maybe we could sign some crusty trash from a team smart enough to let that crusty trash walk....

OR...sign Edwards and finish 8-8 just because that's the way Carl likes it, good and ****ing mediocre forever...look at what we gained from Bell/Surtain/Law/Knight...that's right - ZIP ****ING NADDA NOTHING ****ING NEIN

i hate this ****ing team more than I hate redrum's mom begging for another facial....

Deberg_1990 03-07-2007 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can
OR...sign Edwards and finish 8-8 just because that's the way Carl likes it, good and ****ing mediocre forever...look at we gained from Bell/Surtain/Law/Knight...that's right - ZIP ****ING NADDA NOTHING ****ING NEIN

...


King Carl's biggest flaw.....he always makes the mistake of thinking this team is only a player or two away. He even does a great job of convincing the fanbase of it......

HemiEd 03-07-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can
i hate this ****ing team more than I hate redrum's mom begging for another facial....

yeah right.. LMAO

Fairplay 03-07-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990
King Carl's biggest flaw.....he always makes the mistake of thinking this team is only a player or two away. He even does a great job of convincing the fanbase of it......



Not i. And not with Herm at coaching.

DeezNutz 03-07-2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Carl say no?!?! Carl lets his coaches have to much say that much is obvious hell the 1 time he made the pick DV bitched and moaned about it forever.

I guess it comes down to do you want to give your coach a player he doesn't want.......remember when he did that it took a bunch if injuries before LJ ever saw the field.

I always thought that JWhit was correct when he used to argue that DV spent too much time trying to validate his own role in the Rams' SuperBowl run. Case in point: pre Grandpa, Edwards = best player not to have played in the Pro-Bowl; Grandpa era = Edwards can't play at all, far too many tackles and int's for GRob's system.

shrek6849 03-07-2007 07:05 PM

I think it's hilarious that you made the wrong decision in letting him go in his prime, and now pick him up in the twilight of his career.

Archie Bunker 03-07-2007 07:07 PM

I don't have a problem with it at all. Upgrade over Bell and he still has 2 good years left IMO. Get lucky on a couple of DTs and this D could be pretty damn good.

Archie Bunker 03-07-2007 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrek6849
I think it's hilarious that you made the wrong decision in letting him go in his prime, and now pick him up in the twilight of his career.

Pretty productive in the twilight though. 141 Tackles last year so basically even if his tackles drop by 90 he would still match Bell.

Mecca 03-07-2007 07:12 PM

Also when you hear the Chiefs may want to resign Mitchell and weigh this as Kawika Mitchell or Donnie Edwards......I don't care about age at that point Edwards is the way to go, no more Mitchell.

milkman 03-07-2007 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Also when you hear the Chiefs may want to resign Mitchell and weigh this as Kawika Mitchell or Donnie Edwards......I don't care about age at that point Edwards is the way to go, no more Mitchell.

This possible signing doesn't thrill me, but as you said in an earlier post, we can't get young at every position all at once.

2 year deal and draft a repalcement with in the next couple years.

I've always felt that Chiefs fans in genneral have Edwards way overrrated, but I can live with it for a year or two if it means no Kawika.

dtebbe 03-07-2007 07:46 PM

I lost all respect for Edwards when Dante pancaked him.

I think GoChiefs has the video...

DT

Hammock Parties 03-07-2007 07:50 PM

If we sign Edwards it's obvious we're trying to win NOW. There will BE NO DOWN YEAR.

2007 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS AFC WEST CHAMPIONS NO.1 SEED IN THE PLAYOFFS SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS REPEAT IN 2008 AND 2009 MAKE HISTORY HERM IS GREAT LJ LEAGUE MVP HOF CAREER YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

OnTheWarpath15 03-07-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
If we sign Edwards it's obvious we're trying to win NOW. There will BE NO DOWN YEAR.

2007 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS AFC WEST CHAMPIONS NO.1 SEED IN THE PLAYOFFS SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS REPEAT IN 2008 AND 2009 MAKE HISTORY HERM IS GREAT LJ LEAGUE MVP HOF CAREER YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Hitting the cough syrup pretty hard, eh?

The Bad Guy 03-07-2007 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding
Edwards is going to the Saints though.

To play where?

They just signed Simmons, they have Fujita and Simoneau, who they gave a contract extension to last year.

This move wouldn't be a bad one. Yeah, he's older, but he played great football the last few years and getting him over tinkerBell would be a huge upgrade.

The defense would actually be a DT away from being damn, damn good.

crazycoffey 03-07-2007 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
If we sign Edwards it's obvious we're trying to win NOW. There will BE NO DOWN YEAR.

2007 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS AFC WEST CHAMPIONS NO.1 SEED IN THE PLAYOFFS SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS REPEAT IN 2008 AND 2009 MAKE HISTORY HERM IS GREAT LJ LEAGUE MVP HOF CAREER YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH




we should always be trying to improve our team all the time and win NOW.

DaneMcCloud 03-07-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBucc
Let him finish his career here and give some tutelage to DJ, Nap, and Fox.

I never understood you guys who think that the Chiefs should sign players to multi-million dollar contracts so that they can "give some tutelage" to other players.

Isn't that what the coaches are for?


:shake: :shake:

shaneo69 03-07-2007 08:36 PM

I still fondly recall those three years ('99-'01) that Marvcus Patton outplayed Donnie on our defense.

Hammock Parties 03-07-2007 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneo69
I still fondly recall those three years ('99-'01) that Marvcus Patton outplayed Donnie on our defense.

Highly debatable.

Mr. Kotter 03-07-2007 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneo69
I still fondly recall those three years ('99-'01) that Marvcus Patton outplayed Donnie on our defense.

Marvcus was a Mike. Donnie a Willie....yes, Donnie got his share of tackles too. Gun's system, especially back then, funneled everything Marvcus's way.

Yeah, he was good; but Donnie was, and is, better.

tommykat 03-07-2007 08:55 PM

Maybe I am one of the few here......I always liked Donnie Edwards and was sad to see him leave. I understand his reason without a doubt. But, "he" would be a great come back kid for a year or two. He was always liked in KC. He was always good to people there in public and he did do good things on defense. Personally? Hey, I could finally where my jersey that is in my closet with the price tag still on it.....ROFL

HolmeZz 03-07-2007 09:48 PM

BK sounds really scared about the idea of us re-signing Donnie.

Mr. Laz 03-07-2007 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can
so we let him go in his prime, then sign him when he's old and we're trying to get younger....

****ING BRILLIANT

ROFL ROFL









:deevee:

Thig Lyfe 03-07-2007 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can
so we let him go in his prime, then sign him when he's old and we're trying to get younger....

****ING BRILLIANT

You just made me really depressed.

Direckshun 03-07-2007 11:12 PM

Donnie for two years would be excellent.

He's descending, so he won't cost much. He'll do great while we young-up the rest of the squad over the next couple years.

Rausch 03-07-2007 11:14 PM

Wait, if we do trade Green how much salary cap can we get back?...

jlscorpio 03-07-2007 11:47 PM

I love this place. In the past two days, it could be paraphrased..."I'd rather have Kawiffa than Napoleon Harris, and I'll take Tinkerbell over Donnie Edwards". I would take Donnie Edwards in a body cast over Bell. How quickly we forget the days when Donnie was considered the heir apparent to DT, until Vermeil rolled into town to "Build a champion". What a ****in joke.

cmh6476 03-07-2007 11:50 PM

OLB - Edwards
ILB - Kawika
ILB - Harris
OLB - DJ


:shrug:


this would make the impact of an Allen suspension and the glaring weakness at DT maybe a little less noticed...

Hammock Parties 03-07-2007 11:52 PM

WE ARE NOT SWITCHING TO THE BLOODY 3-4

milkman 03-07-2007 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476
OLB - Edwards
ILB - Kawika
ILB - Harris
OLB - DJ


:shrug:


this would make the impact of an Allen suspension and the glaring weakness at DT maybe a little less noticed...

Yeah great idea.

Of course there is the issue of finding DL that work in a 34.
That glaring weakness at NT would be, wel, glaring.

And of course Hali and Allen would be relegated to the bench because they don't fit the scheme, leaving us a glaring weakness at DE as well.

But hey, those are just details.

boogblaster 03-08-2007 12:01 AM

We dont have the DL to play a 3-4 ........

SPchief 03-08-2007 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman
Yeah great idea.

Of course there is the issue of finding DL that work in a 34.
That glaring weakness at NT would be, wel, glaring.

And of course Hali and Allen would be relegated to the bench because they don't fit the scheme, leaving us a glaring weakness at DE as well.

But hey, those are just details.


Nevermind the fact that we don't have the depth at LB to do it either.

ceebz 03-08-2007 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca
Edwards is an OLB in a 4-3 system.....he only played inside in SD because of the 3-4 system that requires the big pass rushers outside.

Donnie played the mike position in KC. He's capable of playing either.

pikesome 03-08-2007 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmh6476
OLB - Edwards
ILB - Kawika
ILB - Harris
OLB - DJ


:shrug:


this would make the impact of an Allen suspension and the glaring weakness at DT maybe a little less noticed...

I though 3-4 proposals were banned. :rolleyes:

jlscorpio 03-08-2007 12:24 AM

this just in...We're switching to a 3-4, and Trent Green's our new OC...

Demonpenz 03-08-2007 12:33 AM

I wouldn't mind letting key play the entire season our kris griffin. See what they got. If we sign edwards and some other older guys I will be alittle pissed but once august comes around I will still be dreaming "this is the year" it is a sad state but every august i just think about us making a run this year.

Hammock Parties 03-08-2007 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlscorpio
this just in...We're switching to a 3-4, and Trent Green's our new OC...

You're just trying to anger me now, aren't you?

BWillie 03-08-2007 01:30 AM

I'd rather have Key Fox right now. Edwards is going to be kind of expensive, and Key Fox has shown flashes of greatness. I'd rather go with the young guy than a 34 year old guy that could burn out. I have no doubt that Edwards can still perform, but I thought we were trying to get younger? I have no problems with a Johnson, Harris, Fox linebacker core. That suits the cover 2 a whole hell of alot better than Kendrell "I can't get right" Bell and Mitchell who weren't really suited to our new scheme.

FDS 03-08-2007 01:47 AM

Edwards has spent his entire career under Marty. The choke stench will not just fall off him now.

PBJ FirstDownSamie PBJ

SPchief 03-08-2007 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstDownSamie
Edwards has spent his entire career under Marty.


He has not.

FDS 03-08-2007 01:55 AM

9/10ths of his career. And the choke stench is powerful with this one.

PBJ FirstDoownSamie PBJ

beer bacon 03-08-2007 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman
Yeah great idea.

Of course there is the issue of finding DL that work in a 34.
That glaring weakness at NT would be, wel, glaring.

And of course Hali and Allen would be relegated to the bench because they don't fit the scheme, leaving us a glaring weakness at DE as well.

But hey, those are just details.

I actually think Hali and Allen could be pretty good OLBs in the 3-4. That still doesn't address that we don't really have any suitable d-linemen for that type of defense.

beer bacon 03-08-2007 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007
I'd rather have Key Fox right now. Edwards is going to be kind of expensive, and Key Fox has shown flashes of greatness. I'd rather go with the young guy than a 34 year old guy that could burn out. I have no doubt that Edwards can still perform, but I thought we were trying to get younger? I have no problems with a Johnson, Harris, Fox linebacker core. That suits the cover 2 a whole hell of alot better than Kendrell "I can't get right" Bell and Mitchell who weren't really suited to our new scheme.

I would rather sign Edwards to a short, reasonable contract that won't kill our cap if he doesn't pan out. Right now, Edwards is a world ahead of Fox.

SPchief 03-08-2007 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstDownSamie
9/10ths of his career. And the choke stench is powerful with this one.

Parker Sucks



You're right, it is obviously Edwards fault that marty sucks in the playoffs.

007 03-08-2007 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief
You're right, it is obviously Edwards fault that marty sucks in the playoffs.

We have some brilliant ones on here sometimes.


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