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kcfanXIII 03-10-2007 02:50 AM

will chiefsplanet suffer a mini y2k this daylight savings time
 
seriously, the news outlets have been reporting there could be a problem when daylight savings time takes effect. great work cnn, fox noize, and ms nbc, keep up the fear mongering. why in the world would this year be ANY differant?

Sam Hall 03-10-2007 02:51 AM

EVERYBODY PANIC

007 03-10-2007 02:51 AM

ARMAGEDDON

acesn8s 03-10-2007 02:53 AM

The planes will fall out of the sky!!!

007 03-10-2007 02:53 AM

Cats and dogs having sex!

Sam Hall 03-10-2007 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru
Cats and dogs having sex!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

kcfanXIII 03-10-2007 02:56 AM

as per msnbc.com
 
Daylight-saving glitch threatens mini-Y2K
Software bug could skew everything from Outlook to airline schedules

Updated: 12:04 p.m. MT March 9, 2007

Daylight saving time arrives a little earlier — March 11 — and stays a little later — Nov. 4 — this year. And it’s bringing a problem along with it that could affect everything from stock trades to airline schedules to your BlackBerry.

Software created before the law mandating the change passed in 2005 is set to automatically advance its timekeeping by one hour on the first Sunday in April, not the second Sunday in March. Congress decided that more early evening daylight would translate into energy savings.

The result is a glitch reminiscent of the Y2K bug, when cataclysmic crashes were feared if computers interpreted the year 2000 as 1900 and couldn’t reconcile time appearing to move backward. If banks and other institutions aren't properly prepared, automatic stock trades reportedly might happen at the wrong hour, buildings that unlock at a certain time could stay shut, and airline flight schedules could be scrambled.

A different Outlook on life?
And for three weeks this March and April, Microsoft Corp. warns that users of its calendar programs “should view any appointments ... as suspect until they communicate with all meeting invitees.” That's because Outlook may not work the way users expect it to.

The problem won’t show up only in computers. It will affect plenty of non-networked devices that store the time and automatically adjust for daylight saving, like some digital watches and clocks. But in those instances the result will be a nuisance (adjust the time manually, or wait three weeks) rather than something that might throw a wrench in the works.

Cameron Haight, a Gartner Inc. analyst who has studied the potential effects of the daylight-saving bug, said it might force transactions occurring within one hour of midnight to be recorded on the wrong day. Computers might serve up erroneous information about multinational teleconference times and physical-world appointments.



“Organizations could face significant losses if they are not prepared,” the Information Technology Association of America cautioned this week.

Dave Thewlis, who directs CalConnect, a consortium that develops technology standards for calendar and scheduling software, said it is hard to know how widespread the problem will be.

VCRs, other gadgets lack update mechanism
That’s because the world is full of computer systems that have particular methods for accounting for time of day. In many, changing the rules around daylight saving is a snap, but in others, it may be more complex.

“There’s no rule that says you have to represent time in a certain way if you write a program,” Thewlis said. “How complicated it is to implement the change has to do with the original design, where code is located.”

Further confounding matters, there are lots of old computer programs whose original vendors don’t support them anymore, meaning there’s no repair available. Some gadgets, such as VCR clocks, may not have any mechanism to update their software.

Also, the change originated in the United States and is being followed in Canada, but not most other nations. That could befuddle conferencing systems and other applications that run in multiple countries at once.

In a hyper-networked age with data synchronizing on the fly — each year, it seems, there are fewer clocks that we have to manually change for daylight saving time — it might be hard to imagine that computers’ time could fall out of whack. After all, computers seamlessly keep their clocks in line by occasionally checking with “time servers” run by the government and other parties.

But what those time servers provide is “Universal Time,” or Greenwich Mean Time. You tell your computer where in the world it is, and it performs the requisite adjustment to Universal Time. PCs on Eastern Standard Time now are subtracting five hours from Universal Time, but in daylight-saving time they will subtract four.

A common fix is a “patch” that reprograms systems with the updated start and end dates for daylight-saving time. Some of these updates are targeted at specific systems, while others have wider implications — such as one from Sun Microsystems Inc. for older versions of the Java Runtime Environment, which often fuels applications on computers and Web pages.

Vista users in the clear
Microsoft planned to send its daylight-saving patch to Windows PCs with the “automatic update” feature Tuesday. Users with automatic updates turned off should download the patch from Microsoft. New machines running Windows Vista are immune, since Vista was finalized after the 2005 law passed. (MSNBC is a Microsoft-NBC joint venture.)

However, computers running anything older than the most recent version of Windows XP, known as Service Pack 2, no longer get this level of tech support. Owners of those PCs should go into the control panel and unclick the setting that tells the machine to automatically change the clock for daylight-saving time. They have to make the change themselves when the moment arrives. (This is a sizable population; according to Gartner, Windows 2000 alone was still running 14 percent of PCs worldwide last year.)

Patches may not always work
For people who store their appointments in Microsoft Outlook or other desktop-based calendar programs — rather than dynamic, Web-based programs such as Google Calendar — the situation gets trickier. Patches for calendar programs are available, but appointments entered before a patch was applied might still be registered in standard time rather than daylight time — off by an hour.

Microsoft advises heavy calendar users to go online and download a small program known as “tzmove” — Time Zone Move — that can retrofit all previously booked appointments to the new daylight-saving rules. Other vendors offer similar tools for their systems.

Of course, it’s likely not everyone would take that step, said Rich Kaplan, a Microsoft customer service vice president who oversaw the company’s Y2K efforts and heads daylight-saving preparations. Hence Microsoft’s advice to be cautious about meetings between March 11 and April 1.

“Because if one person applied the update, and one person didn’t,” he said, “you could end up there at the wrong time.”

007 03-10-2007 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Shit. I was a little off. It goes like this....

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.

FAX 03-10-2007 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru
Shit. I was a little off. It goes like this....

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.

It's true. This disaster has no dick.

FAX

Bugeater 03-10-2007 02:59 AM

I'm not worried, I still have 72 cases of bottled water left over from Y2K.

007 03-10-2007 03:01 AM

Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

Sam Hall 03-10-2007 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru
Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

That would be a quick and painless way to go.

Bugeater 03-10-2007 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru
Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

http://www.freeibforums.com/forums/h...ons/blowup.gif

SPchief 03-10-2007 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Hall
That would be a quick and painless way to go.


Whoa, It's 3 am and Sam Hall is still up? That has to be a record.

007 03-10-2007 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I love that smiley.

kcfanXIII 03-10-2007 03:06 AM

but can the smiley survive a mini y2k? he won't know what time his appointments or international teleconfrences are.

Sam Hall 03-10-2007 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief
Whoa, It's 3 am and Sam Hall is still up? That has to be a record.

I'm trying to figure out which classes to take in the fall, and it's impossible. I have several options, but I don't like any of them. The times are odd and don't match up very well. I have to get up for work at 8.

007 03-10-2007 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII
but can the smiley survive a mini y2k? he won't know what time his appointments or international teleconfrences are.

I do believe that it already survived y2k. We are talking about mini y2k here. Or if you like, dst311

Calcountry 03-10-2007 03:14 AM

At least I can kill my Chickens for food.

kcfanXIII 03-10-2007 03:18 AM

i know dst311 is a nice acronym, but mini y2k rolls off your tounge, say it outloud. you'll see what i mean.

007 03-10-2007 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII
i know dst311 is a nice acronym, but mini y2k rolls off your tounge, say it outloud. you'll see what i mean.

Ummm, you enjoy letting that roll off your tounge friend. I want no part of that.

BigRedChief 03-10-2007 07:47 AM

The I.T. community is well aware of this and most business have patched this issue. I'm sure Morpious has got the DST add in for php loaded.

acesn8s 03-10-2007 09:33 AM

I will need to stock up on Mountain Dew and cigarettes.

morphius 03-10-2007 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief
The I.T. community is well aware of this and most business have patched this issue. I'm sure Morpious has got the DST add in for php loaded.

This is AustinChiefs ride, I have been unable to get him to tell me anything useful about the OS, uname only shows me kernel info and Linux.

So the server will probably keep running, with the wrong time...

Bwana 03-10-2007 10:01 AM

1 Attachment(s)
:hmmm:

Hammock Parties 03-10-2007 10:03 AM

Must...find....Carrie.

Archie Bunker 03-10-2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs
Must...find....Carrie.

ROFL

Bowser 03-10-2007 10:27 AM

Pffft. ChiefsPlanet has at least 2 Y2K's a week.

StcChief 03-10-2007 02:24 PM

PC covered. once I figured out the genuine check 0x80072efd error..... :banghead: allow access to MS site to ensure I'm legal.

Bob Dole 03-10-2007 04:59 PM

Oh shit! The timestamps on messages may be incorrect, and a cron job may run twice. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!

kstater 11-03-2007 05:57 PM

Don't forget it ends tonight.

JohninGpt 11-03-2007 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater
Don't forget it ends tonight.

Nahhh, according to the new Nostradamus book, and the ancient Mayans it doesn't all end for another five years, one month and 18 days. So we have plenty of time. Relax.

cdcox 11-03-2007 06:11 PM

Our household already suffered from this tragedy last week, when our VCR changed time a week early.

StcChief 11-03-2007 06:22 PM

question is daylight savings time fixed

Donger 11-03-2007 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru
Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.

Egon, this reminds me of that time you tried to drill a hole in your head.

That would've worked if you hadn't have stopped me.

JBucc 11-03-2007 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohninGpt
Nahhh, according to the new Nostradamus book, and the ancient Mayans it doesn't all end for another five years, one month and 18 days. So we have plenty of time. Relax.

Just enough time for Carl to start up another five year plan.

Bugeater 11-03-2007 08:24 PM

Are we dead yet?

JohninGpt 11-04-2007 12:04 AM

Time to change the clocks here on the East coast, and we're still alive.

007 11-04-2007 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru
ARMAGEDDON

Part 2

RustShack 11-04-2007 12:57 AM

My world is going to end in 3 min!

SPchief 11-04-2007 01:03 AM

The power just shut off, I'm scared.

kstater 11-04-2007 04:06 AM

Heh, my cable company is screwed up. It didn't change the time and I can't get any listings.

Simplex3 11-04-2007 09:35 AM

Gee, who could have guess that this would be as big a non-story as Y2K was?

Back during the whole Y2K bit I had a radio station call me for an interview. The guy immediately started asking if the world was going to end and my response was "We in the IT industry have been working on this problem for years. All of this is a fantasy dreamed up by a media that loves to scare people."

Strangely I didn't make it on air.

JBucc 11-04-2007 09:37 AM

I just died. My watch was wrong and I tried to use my teeth to pull out the little turny thingy to change it and it popped out and lodged in my throat and choked me to death. Thanks a lot congress.

Bugeater 11-04-2007 09:42 AM

MY COMPUTER CLOCK IS WRONG! OMG WHAT DO I DO???

Donger 11-04-2007 09:44 AM

Heh. The CP server didn't change time?

morphius 11-04-2007 10:01 AM

I didn't expect it to work, heaven forbid we actually be able to patch a server or our software...

kcfanXIII 11-04-2007 11:21 AM

ha, i forgot about this untill last week when life around my house came to a screeching halt when my vcr changed times early.


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