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jidar 09-04-2007 01:46 PM

Hold on to your hats, this study confirms...
 
Thank god they cleared this one up.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science....ap/index.html

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Men want hot women, study confirms

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Science is confirming what most women know: When given the choice for a mate, men go for good looks.
art.dating.study.gi.jpg

In the dating game, men know what they want.

And guys won't be surprised to learn that women are much choosier about partners than they are.

"Just because people say they're looking for a particular set of characteristics in a mate, someone like themselves, doesn't mean that is what they'll end up choosing," Peter M. Todd, of the cognitive science program at Indiana University, Bloomington, said in a telephone interview.

Researchers led by Todd report in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that their study found humans were similar to most other mammals, "following Darwin's principle of choosy females and competitive males, even if humans say something different."

Their study involved 26 men and 20 women in Munich, Germany.

Participants ranged in age from 26 to their early 40s and took part in "speed dating," short meetings of three to seven minutes in which people chat, then move on to meet another dater. Afterward, participants check off the people they'd like to meet again, and dates can be arranged between pairs who select one another.

Speed dating let researchers look at a lot of mate choices in a short time, Todd said.

In the study, participants were asked before the session to fill out a questionnaire about what they were looking for in a mate, listing such categories as wealth and status, family commitment, physical appearance, healthiness and attractiveness.

After the session, the researchers compared what the participants said they were looking for with the people they actually chose to ask for another date.

Men's choices did not reflect their stated preferences, the researchers concluded. Instead, men appeared to base their decisions mostly on the women's physical attractiveness.

The men also appeared to be much less choosy. Men tended to select nearly every woman above a certain minimum attractiveness threshold, Todd said.

Women's actual choices, like men's, did not reflect their stated preferences, but they made more discriminating choices, the researchers found.

The scientists said women were aware of the importance of their own attractiveness to men, and adjusted their expectations to select the more desirable guys.

"Women made offers to men who had overall qualities that were on a par with the women's self-rated attractiveness. They didn't greatly overshoot their attractiveness," Todd said, "because part of the goal for women is to choose men who would stay with them"

But, he added, "they didn't go lower. They knew what they could get and aimed for that level."

So, it turns out, the women's attractiveness influenced the choices of the men and the women.

VonneMarie 09-04-2007 01:47 PM

And in other news, the sky is blue. :p

alnorth 09-04-2007 01:51 PM

The study later went on to say that the worldwide #1 cause of death, misery, and war is the Oakland Raiders.

KCFalcon59 09-04-2007 01:56 PM

It just proves men live in a realistic world and women live in a fantasy world. Duh.

Fish 09-04-2007 01:58 PM

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Their study involved 26 men and 20 women in Munich, Germany.

Nice broad study group there.......

Pitt Gorilla 09-04-2007 02:03 PM

They looked at speed dating? How much do you know about a person after 3 minutes?

jidar 09-04-2007 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
Nice broad study group there.......


You're right. I think they need to expand the test group so we can be certain.

talastan 09-04-2007 02:43 PM

My question is who gets hired for these "scientific studies" and how can I get a grant for doing one of these "studies". Perhaps something along the lines of do Men like Beer?. :hmmm:

Jilly 09-04-2007 02:46 PM

derrrrr....but yet I still have a really good friend who's single who REFUSES to dress up to meet guys, even though she wants to date. Go figure.

Phobia 09-04-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
derrrrr....but yet I still have a really good friend who's single who REFUSES to dress up to meet guys, even though she wants to date. Go figure.

Maybe she's the target audience of these types of studies. Does she bathe?

Jilly 09-04-2007 02:54 PM

she probably is. yes she bathes. It drives me insane. she can be a pretty girl when she puts some effort into it.... but she never does.
And then complains when noone is interested in her.... there is something to taking your hair out of a ponytail and putting the contacts in!!!

Fish 09-04-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
derrrrr....but yet I still have a really good friend who's single who REFUSES to dress up to meet guys, even though she wants to date. Go figure.

What's wrong with that?

I don't really equate my date's hotness by what she's wearing..... or not wearing....

Should I be? You've gone and gotten me confused......

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
she probably is. yes she bathes. It drives me insane. she can be a pretty girl when she puts some effort into it.... but she never does.
And then complains when noone is interested in her.... there is something to taking your hair out of a ponytail and putting the contacts in!!!

Hook me up. Those are my kind of girls.

Skip Towne 09-04-2007 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
They looked at speed dating? How much do you know about a person after 3 minutes?

You will know if she has big tits.

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
What's wrong with that?

I don't really equate my date's hotness by what she's wearing..... or not wearing....

Should I be? You've gone and gotten me confused......

Dude, I think a woman can move up 5 points on the 1-10 scale based on what she's wearing, hair, & makeup. You wouldn't want to see a lot of hollywood women in sweats, ponytail, & sans makeup.

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Hook me up. Those are my kind of girls.

She said "contacts", not legally blind.

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
What's wrong with that?

I don't really equate my date's hotness by what she's wearing..... or not wearing....

Should I be? You've gone and gotten me confused......

It's not a matter of what she's wearing, but everyone knows men are pretty visual and if a girl makes no effort to impress, whether first meeting someone or whether you've been married to them for 30 years, then what are you telling the other person about your interest in them? Now I've only been married for 6 months, but I definitely do my best daily to look hot for him. I would think she'd try twice as hard. Not to mention that she's ten times hotter when she tries a little!!

ferrarispider95 09-04-2007 03:05 PM

post a picture

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 03:06 PM

I just got a "woo" from this chick the other day. I'm scared:

http://www.okcupid.com/profile?u=Brittarded25

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrarispider95
post a picture

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/ALLPOLITIC...rt.crowley.jpg

Donger 09-04-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
I just got a "woo" from this chick the other day. I'm scared:

http://www.okcupid.com/profile?u=Brittarded25

What does that mean?

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
I just got a "woo" from this chick the other day. I'm scared:

http://www.okcupid.com/profile?u=Brittarded25

I can see why. I'll bet she rates about a "20" on your drive around the block scale.

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
What does that mean?

You send someone a "woo" if you're attracted to them.

Fish 09-04-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Dude, I think a woman can move up 5 points on the 1-10 scale based on what she's wearing, hair, & makeup. You wouldn't want to see a lot of hollywood women in sweats, ponytail, & sans makeup.

I just hate to see the obsession with looks/clothing/style/etc; and go so far as to say you have to adhere to that to find a compatible mate. I was just trying to make a point that it doesn't have to be the deal breaker. If a few of those hollywood women would let themselves be seen in sweats, ponytail, & sans makeup, maybe it would save a young girl from the heartbreak realization of unobtainable "hollywood" beauty...

Pitt Gorilla 09-04-2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
You will know if she has big tits.

Sure, but that doesn't confirm the study's findings (that men don't value things other than looks; I'm not sure there was adequate time to determine that element).

Donger 09-04-2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
You send someone a "woo" if you're attracted to them.

Physically?

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
Physically?

Yeah, I guess. That's my criteria for sending out woos. Although I don't send them out if the match percentage is below, say, 50.

NaptownChief 09-04-2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
They looked at speed dating? How much do you know about a person after 3 minutes?


Well for most men that have vision 3 minutes is about 2 minutes and 59 seconds more than we need.

For women it isn't anywhere near enough time unless the guy happened to drop his bank statement on the table.

Skip Towne 09-04-2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
Sure, but that doesn't confirm the study's findings (that men don't value things other than looks; I'm not sure there was adequate time to determine that element).

Nothing else matters.

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrarispider95
post a picture

of her? hmmmm...I'm not sure I even have one... unless I steal it off her myspace or facebook...!!!

Pitt Gorilla 09-04-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
What's wrong with that?

I don't really equate my date's hotness by what she's wearing..... or not wearing....

Should I be? You've gone and gotten me confused......

I agree. A pretty girl is pretty in a ponytail.

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
I just hate to see the obsession with looks/clothing/style/etc; and go so far as to say you have to adhere to that to find a compatible mate. I was just trying to make a point that it doesn't have to be the deal breaker. If a few of those hollywood women would let themselves be seen in sweats, ponytail, & sans makeup, maybe it would save a young girl from the heartbreak realization of unobtainable "hollywood" beauty...

I'm probably unqualified to debate this point because I'm pretty shallow. I appreciate somebody who takes the time and effort to look their best. I've been married to both sides and I would say that the one who didn't care about her outward appearance had very little respect for herself and her body - which was a whole 'nother can of worms. But I can also see how one could take both to an extreme.

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia


see? Now this is the best she can look. Just imagine if her hair were in a ponytail and she had glasses on!! :p

Pitt Gorilla 09-04-2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief
Well for most men that have vision 3 minutes is about 2 minutes and 59 seconds more than we need.

For women it isn't anywhere near enough time unless the guy happened to drop his bank statement on the table.

That may be the case. But, the study sought to confirm that hypothesis; you don't confirm your hypothesis by assuming it's true or generalizing from relatively few cases.

Donger 09-04-2007 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Yeah, I guess. That's my criteria for sending out woos. Although I don't send them out if the match percentage is below, say, 50.

In that case, considering the type of person you are and the environment you're in, you have to admit the strong possibility this may be the only chance you ever have in your entire life to have sex.

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
I agree. A pretty girl is pretty in a ponytail.

I was kidding about that.... you knwo those stupid movies where they makeover the nerd girl and all they do is take her glasses off and her hair down?!

Donger 09-04-2007 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Nothing else matters.

Only looks matter?

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
In that case, considering the type of person you are and the environment you're in, you have to admit the strong possibility this may be the only chance you ever have in your entire life to have sex.

LMAO

Fish 09-04-2007 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
It's not a matter of what she's wearing, but everyone knows men are pretty visual and if a girl makes no effort to impress, whether first meeting someone or whether you've been married to them for 30 years, then what are you telling the other person about your interest in them? Now I've only been married for 6 months, but I definitely do my best daily to look hot for him. I would think she'd try twice as hard. Not to mention that she's ten times hotter when she tries a little!!

If for some reason you don't do your best every day to look hot for him, is it going to affect your relationship?

Does he expect your best?

Do you get worried when you wake up with hair a mess and dragon breath that your partner will see? Would it matter then?

Sorry if I'm being to forward, I'm just curious...

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
In that case, considering the type of person you are and the environment you're in, you have to admit the strong possibility this may be the only chance you ever have in your entire life to have sex.

That's not necessarily true. Sometimes his sister and cousin come home from college.

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
That's not necessarily true. Sometimes his sister and cousin come home from college.

You do realize that my cousin is male?

Pitt Gorilla 09-04-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
You do realize that my cousin is male?

Good Lord, put it on a freaking tee.

Donger 09-04-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
You do realize that my cousin is male?

OMG. You've masturbated while thinking about your sister, haven't you...

Skip Towne 09-04-2007 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
Only looks matter?

Only tits matter.

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
You do realize that my cousin is male?

Yeah, I sent him a "Whoo".

Donger 09-04-2007 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Only tits matter.

In regards to dating? Maybe. I was guilty of that a few times when I was younger.

But not for a wife.

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger
OMG. You've masturbated while thinking about your sister, haven't you...

Jesus, no.

Her friends, on the other hand... http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/2712/shiftywd5.gif

Skip Towne 09-04-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
You send someone a "woo" if you're attracted to them.

Whose picture did you post?

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
If for some reason you don't do your best every day to look hot for him, is it going to affect your relationship?

Does he expect your best?

Do you get worried when you wake up with hair a mess and dragon breath that your partner will see? Would it matter then?

Sorry if I'm being to forward, I'm just curious...

I'm guessing if I went 5 years without trying to look my best for him at least once or twice a week, it would effect our relationship. Because what am I telling him if I never try? Would he love me anyways? of course, cuz I'm damn fine regardless!!! (Kidding). But I bet it would take it's toll...just like if he never shaved, etc. I'd begin to wonder why he never wanted to look good for me.
My hair being a mess inthe morning or my breath isn't really what I'm referring to, because that happens. I just mean...getting up and making an effort. If I got up, put on sweats and a t-shirt every day... esp to go out or something.... I'd be giving a message I don't really want to give. But if we go do something and I put on a cleavage shirt and do my hair, and look awesome, I'm giving a message that I'm still interested in impressing him.

Hammock Parties 09-04-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Whose picture did you post?

Mine.

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Only tits matter.

wow, then my friend should be set.

Marlboro_Chief 09-04-2007 03:27 PM

As long as she has a hole and it's juicy, I'd hit it. Marlboro Chief has the lowest standards on this board because I am a dirtbag and proud of it!

Skip Towne 09-04-2007 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
wow, then my friend should be set.

Well, maybe not. There is that weight limit to consider.

stumppy 09-04-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Jesus, no.

Her friends, on the other hand... http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/2712/shiftywd5.gif


Because she keeps the first hand busy ?

Fish 09-04-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
I'm guessing if I went 5 years without trying to look my best for him at least once or twice a week, it would effect our relationship. Because what am I telling him if I never try? Would he love me anyways? of course, cuz I'm damn fine regardless!!! (Kidding). But I bet it would take it's toll...just like if he never shaved, etc. I'd begin to wonder why he never wanted to look good for me.
My hair being a mess inthe morning or my breath isn't really what I'm referring to, because that happens. I just mean...getting up and making an effort. If I got up, put on sweats and a t-shirt every day... esp to go out or something.... I'd be giving a message I don't really want to give. But if we go do something and I put on a cleavage shirt and do my hair, and look awesome, I'm giving a message that I'm still interested in impressing him.

Thank you for the input. The vaginal side of the species continues to bewilder me...

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Well, maybe not. There is that weight limit to consider.

you know, she's not fat. she's not a size 3 either though. The thing about her is that she jsut doesn't try. I love her and think she's pretty regardless...but you know, I know her soul. On the surface, she's just not one of those girls that looks good naturally, she just needs a little mascara and it bumps her up like 10 notches.

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
Thank you for the input. The vaginal side of the species continues to bewilder me...

yeah...we're pretty strange. At least some of us are. But doesn't that make sense...or maybe that's something I'm putting in there. Maybe I'm obsessing about nothing?
Personally, I think to feel sexually empowered, a woman needs to take care of herself and feel good about what she looks like. I think many women don't have sex with their husbands because they constantly feel bad about what they look like. But to me, regardless of weight or other factors, if a woman decides to put on something pretty, wear pretty make up and do her hair, she instantly feels better about who she is and is more apt to feel sexually amorous

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
you know, she's not fat. she's not a size 3 either though. The thing about her is that she jsut doesn't try. I love her and think she's pretty regardless...but you know, I know her soul. On the surface, she's just not one of those girls that looks good naturally, she just needs a little mascara and it bumps her up like 10 notches.

Does she date married men?

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:46 PM

no....but this should bump her up like 20 notches... she consciously made a decision when she was 18 to maintain her virginity and she has stuck by it.... that's crazy, huh?

stevieray 09-04-2007 03:47 PM

It's all about attitude...being smoking hot is a state of mind, not accessories, IMO.

Fish 09-04-2007 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
yeah...we're pretty strange. At least some of us are. But doesn't that make sense...or maybe that's something I'm putting in there. Maybe I'm obsessing about nothing?
Personally, I think to feel sexually empowered, a woman needs to take care of herself and feel good about what she looks like. I think many women don't have sex with their husbands because they constantly feel bad about what they look like. But to me, regardless of weight or other factors, if a woman decides to put on something pretty, wear pretty make up and do her hair, she instantly feels better about who she is and is more apt to feel sexually amorous

Yes, that makes sense. Personally, I feel the same about myself in a tux as I do in greasy coveralls, but I see where you're coming from. I guess for me, when I get to the point that I'm in love(not just lust) with a woman, it doesn't matter if she dresses up X number of times a week. I'm still going to be attracted to her. Like you said of your friend "I love her and think she's pretty regardless...but you know, I know her soul." I guess I'm just looking for that...

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
no....but this should bump her up like 20 notches... she consciously made a decision when she was 18 to maintain her virginity and she has stuck by it.... that's crazy, huh?

Bump her up? Are you kidding me? She lost about 20 notches because some poor guy is gonna have to marry her to get a piece.

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
Yes, that makes sense. Personally, I feel the same about myself in a tux as I do in greasy coveralls, but I see where you're coming from. I guess for me, when I get to the point that I'm in love(not just lust) with a woman, it doesn't matter if she dresses up X number of times a week. I'm still going to be attracted to her. Like you said of your friend "I love her and think she's pretty regardless...but you know, I know her soul." I guess I'm just looking for that...

so you're single? because that's what she's looking for.... we should have a planet get together, just so I can bring her along to meet someone nice like this!!! But you all cant' tell her i talked about her!!!

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Bump her up? Are you kidding me? She lost about 20 notches because some poor guy is gonna have to marry her to get a piece.

really? i thought this was every guy's fantasy besides a threesome?

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
Yes, that makes sense. Personally, I feel the same about myself in a tux as I do in greasy coveralls, but I see where you're coming from.

I think you'd feel a whole lot better in a pair of these:

http://www.fetishshoesandmore.com/00...EEPER-509S.jpg

Phobia 09-04-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
really? i thought this was every guy's fantasy besides a threesome?

Meh. Overrated. Especially if you have to marry her. I mean, ideally most of us would love to marry a virgin bride but it's not too realistic any longer for 99.9% of the population.

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:55 PM

well, here she is that .1% and I'm lucky enough to be friends with her!

Fish 09-04-2007 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
I think you'd feel a whole lot better in a pair of these:

http://www.fetishshoesandmore.com/00...EEPER-509S.jpg

:hmmm:

Do they come in plaid? I have a lot of plaid...... and do they come in a higher heel? Maybe a swimming goldfish in the heel?

Jilly 09-04-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish
:hmmm:

Do they come in plaid? I have a lot of plaid...... and do they come in a higher heel? Maybe a swimming goldfish in the heel?

I bet they have it at the "We sell it on Ebay" store

Fish 09-04-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
really? i thought this was every guy's fantasy besides a threesome?

Many a male would probably get giggity about the virgin thing... but virgin sex is never ever what it's cut out to be....

Ebolapox 09-04-2007 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
derrrrr....but yet I still have a really good friend who's single who REFUSES to dress up to meet guys, even though she wants to date. Go figure.

she do anal? cause that'll get a woman out of ever dressing up again...

Ebolapox 09-04-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
of her? hmmmm...I'm not sure I even have one... unless I steal it off her myspace or facebook...!!!

fuck, that's public domain--post that sh*t

Ebolapox 09-04-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Jesus, no.

Her friends, on the other hand... http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/2712/shiftywd5.gif

by friends, you mean your second cousin steve, right?



NTTAWWT

Ebolapox 09-04-2007 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marlboro_Chief
As long as she has a hole and it's juicy, I'd hit it. Marlboro Chief has the lowest standards on this board because I am a dirtbag and proud of it!

pregnant 'bitches' everywhere bark when you're near.

:spock:

Ebolapox 09-04-2007 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
you know, she's not fat. she's not a size 3 either though. The thing about her is that she jsut doesn't try. I love her and think she's pretty regardless...but you know, I know her soul. On the surface, she's just not one of those girls that looks good naturally, she just needs a little mascara and it bumps her up like 10 notches.

so, you two ever get wild in college after a few too many margaritas?

Jilly 09-04-2007 04:58 PM

sorry, but no. We only went to college for a year together and didn't know each other. We went to grad school together for a year and didn't know each other then, even though we were at numerous parties we found out later. I'm pretty sure she's not that kind of girl!!!

Ebolapox 09-04-2007 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
sorry, but no. We only went to college for a year together and didn't know each other. We went to grad school together for a year and didn't know each other then, even though we were at numerous parties we found out later. I'm pretty sure she's not that kind of girl!!!

eh, it's all good in the hood (wherever the fugg that is)

you're right, though. she sounds like she needs to let the hair down and get down with the funky sh*t.

Hammock Parties 09-05-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
I just got a "woo" from this chick the other day. I'm scared:

http://www.okcupid.com/profile?u=Brittarded25

Jesus. She just woo'd me again. This is getting scary.

Donger 09-05-2007 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Jesus. She just woo'd me again. This is getting scary.

Indeed. She is either insane, very desperate or has extremely poor taste. Perhaps a combination.

Calcountry 09-05-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly
she probably is. yes she bathes. It drives me insane. she can be a pretty girl when she puts some effort into it.... but she never does.
And then complains when noone is interested in her.... there is something to taking your hair out of a ponytail and putting the contacts in!!!

But does she brush and floss her teeth?


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