Top 10 Pick?
 

Now I want the Chiefs to win just as badly as many of you. However, I'm a pretty realistic guy who didn't think we were going to do much before the year started. From day one what I wanted out of the 2007 year was for us to know what we have in Brodie Croyle and the rest of our young players.

I don't see this team winning any game from here on out. They might win against the Jets but that game is on the road. So with 5 wins at the most I think we are looking at a really high draft pick, and with our recent sucess on draft day it gives me some hope.

5 wins...6th pick I think......Dolphins, Pats, Jets, Raiders, Rams...

Somewhere between 5-7 is what I'd expect with that record

Are there any Offensive Lineman that are worthy of a pick that high?

I'm not sure how anybody can say we won't win a game for the rest of this year. We're playing competitive football, even agaisnt good teams, and a few wins coming in is likely.

We're likely to win a couple more games.

Right now it looks like we'll draft somewhere between 7 and 13.

Who will the Chiefs get their fifth win against? NYJ? The Lions?

I predicted six wins this year, but it is looking like a five win season as you say.

I'm counting the Jets as the 5th win....who else they gonna beat?

Also there's a ton of Olineman but you pick that high you gotta take the best payer regardless.

There's so many OT's this year picking that high you could get a starting OT at the top of the second.

anybody know a good draft propect site

If we finish with only 5 wins, then we'll draft between 4 and 10 with 6 through 8 slots being the most likely by far.

Check out NFLDraftcountdown.com

They have a mock and all that up.

Jake Long, OT from Michigan is a projected top 5-10 pick. Sam Baker was highly touted at the beginning of the season, but he's been hampered by injury.

There are some juniors that may leave early that are good too.

Jake Long will go in the top 3 picks though.......if the Chiefs pick say 6th, the guys who we won't have a shot at are....Glen Dorsey, Jake Long, Chris Long and Darren McFadden...

Probably won't be favored in any of the others but we'll be in the ball park against the Chargers, Titans and Lions, unless this team just quits on Herm.

Me want Jake Long.

Ok, pray the Chiefs don't win another game and somehow some of these really bad teams win a couple games.

I don't think I'll have to do any prayer for that to happen.

Everyone knows my reputation as a man of faith, and i always encourage everyone to pray.

Prayer will not be neccessary to achieve this goal, Mecca.

:rolleyes:

Ok problem is, the Dolphins may take him, I don't expect it but it could happen....if they don't......somehow the you'll need the Raiders to win another game.

Also according to Longs scouting report...some people question of Jake Long is a LT in the NFL and if he'll have to move to the right side....

The projected draft order will change a hundred times before the draft.

Oh I know I'm just going on teams with worse records than the Chiefs at this point.....

Too premature to say the one guy I want. I want a good player, and we'll get one. Either the choice of the top three or two of the top three QBs, perhaps an OT, some great DBs... we'll see.

People think this guy and that guy aren't gonna be available, but you just don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if Dorsey slips just a little bit and maybe we get a shot at him. Same goes for Jake Long.

This is a pretty shitty DB year, at least at this point it is.

I was actually referring to the players that would be taken at particular spots.

They better draft a stud LT with it.

I think if I had my choice of any guy....I'd take Glenn Dorsey before I took any of the OT's. When you pick that high you have to take someone you are sure on and not a need. I think Dorsey is a lock to be a top notch player.

Jake Long

Malcolm Jenkins is as good a corner prospect as I have seen in a few years. Cason is very good. Ikegwuonu is very good. Outside of Kenny Phillips, I don't like the safety class, but the depth at CB is very good and we have a #8-#12 pick, I'm more than happy with Jenkins.

Or Sam Baker

Michael Oher is the best OT in this draft.

Baker is falling like a rock..he won't go till late teens at this moment he may move back up...

Also I forgot about Jenkins he's a top 15 guy as a CB.

He's nowhere on this list...

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/ot.html

It's because he's a junior, that is just a list of seniors.

Yes, but Ryan Clady is listed as the top underclassman. It doesn't matter, Herm will screw it up anyway...

It's likely going to be a great cornerback year. Malcolm Jenkins, Justin King, Antoine Cason, Mike Jenkins, Terrell Thomas, Jack Ikegwuonu, Tracy Porter, DeJuan Tribble...

I like Jenkins......I've seen every game Terrell Thomas has ever played and even me a SC guy wouldn't take him in the first round.

I haven't seen enough of some of those guys to really comment. I don't think any corner is worth a top 10 pick and there's 1 worth top 15, I didn't say it wasn't deep. I should have clarified there is no standout top 5 CB prospect.

I know we have a huge need at LT but if the the top one is gone and you can get the top CB I think you have o take him

I'd take one of the DT's, well depends what the pick is.

I'd be thrilled to get Dorsey. You can't have enough good players on either line.

The advantage of having a top 10 pick isn't really in the 1st round. There are lots of inflated salaries and busts there along with the franchise players (Sims vs Bowe). But having early picks in the 2nd and 3rd round is the real advantage. A lot of good players slip to the early 2nd...and given how poor our 2nd rounders have generally been, it would be nice to have a shot at those "border line" first rounders.

We could (in theory) get Dorsey with the 6th pick and then find a top (#1-3) center/guard early in the 2nd.

Then take a WR/LB/CB with the early 3rd.

Basically it just means we have a larger pool of players to chose from, and more options if someone starts to slide.

But even with high draft picks - we'll still have Herm at the end of the day. :banghead:

I don't mind Herm being involved in making said picks.

I don't either. That's what he is. He's NOT a HC.

10. Kansas City Chiefs: Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
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Brodie Croyle actually looked pretty decent at Indianapolis, so maybe the Chiefs will hold off on drafting a quarterback and give their young gun-slinger a year to prove himself. With that in mind, Sam Baker and Ryan Clady become serious options to improve the offensive line. However, I don't think Kansas City can pass on Calais Campbell, the best player available at this juncture. The massive Calais Campbell would be a great fit for the JChiefs defense. Campbell is a huge human being at 6'8" 280 pounds. He had 10½ sacks last year, and he has been continually double-teamed this year because of his constant threat at the line. Campbell will cause teams to have to adjust to handle the threat he presents. Jared Allen may defect for another team via the free-agent market. If that happens, the Chiefs will need an insurance policy anyway.

Round 2
40. Kansas City Chiefs: Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
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Let's see... the Chiefs can't run the ball (Larry Johnson averaging 3.5 yards per carry) or pass protect (29 sacks allowed in nine games). Will Kansas City finally come to its senses and realize it needs to draft some offensive linemen to replace the ones that retired? For the sake of Chiefs fans everywhere, I hope so.

Round 3
Kansas City Chiefs: Mike Hart, RB, Michigan
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In the wake of Priest Holmes' retirement, all the Chiefs have left at the running back position are the suddenly injury-prone Larry Johnson and rookie Kolby Smith.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2008.php

True. Why don't we get rid of Carl, and promote Herm to GM?

So we now are sitting at the 7th overall pick...

I think SF, and STL could win a few more.

Just remember, New England has SF's pick, so don't think about who SF would pick think about who NE would pick.

They're pretty set at O-line, right?

They've got mediocre OTs. They could take Long or their top-rated OT.

As for NFLDraftCountdown, I'm not sold on Scott Wright. He's the most bland 'talent evaluator' there is and doesn't really seem to know jack about very many prospects.

I don't even care if we let Carl stay on as president. Let Herm deal with the personnel decisions and put someone else on the field.

Good, we can get two then.


:evil:

There are many solid OTs, but no real dominant physical freaks. the real high end depth position this year is at DB.

Like Carl will get them signed by camp

He is normally dead on projections though. After Gosslein he is the best to look at.

Best player available..

Top 10? Huh? Don't sell yourself short.... Chiefs are right in the mix for the #1 Overall Pick of the 2008 Draft!! You can do it... you are every bit as bad as San Francisco or Miami, you suck just as bad as the worst of 'em - don't underestimate KC suckage... you can go all the way!

Holdout.

Lets pray Carl wont be around to worry about any of that.

I think the Pats would take McFadden...just me though.

Never know DJ was 15th.

Cause he's a LB, and he had question marks.

If any team ever took a LB that plays like him in the top 10 they'd be ripped out the ass. Having a top 10 pick is where you take franchise players.

I wonder if anyone will tell us we are bad fans for talking about the draft already...

Or give us the whole how dare you to want the Chiefs to lose for a better draft pick speech.

Don't the Pats have to give up a 1st rounder for cheating? Will the NFL let them choose which 1st rounder to forfeit, or will the league just take one as punishment?

They give up their own 1st rounder and keep the 1st rounder from the trade.

Problem with not picking a LT is we might be stunting our young QB and WRs growth. The biggest problem of picking the best possible athlete is that unless you have a nurturing enviroment for him to grow in you are wasting his abilities. The most winnning teams know this and balance very well need with BPA. By letting Croyle scramble in order to make passes another year, never giving him enough time to set his feet or for Rookie D.Bowe to never get time to get open how will this effect their chemistry? Would getting the top DT ensure that we would get a Pro Bowler, most likely but how will it effect us as a team?

I dont know if Im thinking to short sighted but I just think we need to go with need inorder not to have a couple of our high round picks wasted.

Re: offensive tackles, Lenny P wrote this on ESPN:

Building a strong team takes time. Sometimes QB's need more than just a year under their belt.

I think OT makes a difference for any quarterback yes. But, I think there is a lot more to it when it comes to developing a young QB. Croyle just simply has to play more. A lot of his problems believe it or not are mechanical? It would definately help him if he has an improved line, but I think he makes up for it with his scrambling mobility. Plus, I think this O-line is decent for passblocking. They have been ok at that this year, not great but ok. What concerns me more about Croyle is the coaching staff. Im worried that he doesn't have the right guys around him to guide him and tutor him well.

To me, it makes no difference? If youre the Chiefs you take the BPA. You have to? And note, you said winning team? which the chiefs aren't. I don't think it makes a difference of the environment. A good player is a good player. You see a potential star in the top 5 like Tomlinson, Manning, Ray Lewis, Shawne Merriman whomever? You take him. Simple as that. The Chiefs are a bad team and need a superstar player they can build around. It is a bad environment as it is in KC yeah, but a lot of those guys that are drafted in the top 5 come from good schools, good programs. They are tutored well enough, and prepared to play at the NFL level anyway. It doesn't make a difference. Im sure you get a player in the top 5 it can have a dramatic impact and change of attitude on the environment of a losing franchise. we saw that with DT and Neil Smith? They made a difference and brought winning back in KC. You seen it with guys like Peyton Manning too.

Nomatter what BPA is the way to go

BTW, if Oher declares he could possibly be the BPA when KC picks in the top 10 . More likely though, it will be Sedrick Ellis

As much as I hate OU this week I would love to see Phil Loadholt wear a chiefs jersey.

I haven't seen a better overall OT class than this one in many years. It doesn't quite have the Joe Thomas or Robert Gallery (fortunately?!) but the depth is OUTSTANDING. I have a couple guys rated as top-15-caliber players that should be available at the top of the second round.

Us Chiefs fans are generally as unlucky as any fanbase out there, but we got really lucky that this is the year we finally suck a 10-foot pole. We could come out of this draft with two legitimate starting offensive lineman as rookies from day one.