If Clark has an ounce of sense...
 

He'll dump Herm and Carl as soon as the season is over and anoint this guy as our new head coach.

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Jason Garrett is young (41), offensive-minded, smart as a whip, and is going to be a hot commodity this offseason. The Cowboys are sure to lose him, and should probably dump that fat turd Wade Phillips and promote Garrett.

LOOK AT THIS PSYCHOTIC STARE.

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Yikes.

Looks like he'll coach to win, at least.

That's my pick for our next head coach.

Well Garrett is aggressive.....

Something tells me Clark will be just like his dad and Carl and Herm will be back, with no pressure at all.

not gonna happen, Herm will be here for at least another season

I'm on board.

I'd rather see Cowher.

I doubt Cowher is coming back, especially to coach our team when he could take ready made San Diego.

The guy has definitely had a chance over the years to watch a lot of football games holdin that clipboard.

As much as I like Cowher, I really want to see completely new blood for this franchise.

Cowher is just a white Herm. No thanks.

I don't give a shit, as long as Herm goes. But he will be here for 2 more seasons.

Cowher has been to two Super Bowls and won one. That's better than Marty and better than Herm will ever be.

You think our opponents would try to beat Garrett like a red headed stepchild?...

I apologize.

LMAO WTF?

Carolina. He's got a ranch there. His wife and Family love it there.

Another Lane Kiffin???? No thanks.

Gochiefs/Goatse.....I thought you loved Herm?

Once Carl leaves all the pieces will fall into place.

LOL.

I hired him in Madden!!1

LOL

I thought you liked Herm, what happend?

Isn't this Garrett's first year as OC in Dallas? He has done great but I don't know that that will translate into being a HC.

You all relize that Garrett was brought in to take over the reigns in Dallas right? Jerry Jones has even said as much. No way does Dallas let their golden child get away.

Nada friggin chance no matter what happens in Big D. He's Jerry's hand picked coach. He ain't going nowhere.

Go Chiefs (notice I respectfully use your correct username) ... we've had our differences but I fully agree with you on this one. I think there is less than a 5% chance it will happen but I would be delighted. Garrett may fail as a HC but I for one am willing to give a young guy the chance. Can't be any worse than what we've had for the last 30+ years.

For all you guys saying Jerry Jones will never let it happen ... I may be wrong but if he is offered a HC position I think Jones can't do a lot about it unless he wants to make him their HC coach and I doubt he will replace Phillips after the year they are having. Now I think Phillips is living off of the previous coaches talent/ground work and I will not be surprised if Dallas goes down next year.

But, I'd sure like to have Garrett. If he is not available then I'm good with Cowher ... only coz he won a SB.

But, the key is ... who will be GM? Without a quality GM we are going no where!!!

How do you know Kiffin will not succeed? He beat us at Arrowhead!!! He is having to turn the team around ... thus, he no one knows how he will end up. At least Oakland has a chance Kiffin will grow a wining team. IMHO with Herm as our coach we have less than not a chance at all. Any coach that is afraid to call plays that gives a team the chance to win has no chance at all.

Now I like the guy. He is a great person ... has the correct character ... has right priorities ... but a very poor coach.

Correction, he didn't beat us at arrowhead...herm did. There are already reports that he has lost control of that team. Sapp has already said that there is no discipline. 3wins? Clear a spot in Canton for Montys son. Is he better than Herm? Sure, who isn't? Should he be a Head Coach in the NFL? No. There are several coaches much more qualified. Is garrett one of them? Not yet.

Clark is a competetive lil rich kid, is what I got from the article... :)

Now, where did I write that I expect him to become a HOF member? I, only, said that he has a chance.

It seems you are just trying to argue. You can phrase it any way you wish but at least his team won in KC today and I think he had just a little to do with managing the win. I've read that he is having to change the atmosphere/attitude on the team and that it is taking time to get the job done. Will he be successful? I'm not saying he will ... just that he still has a chance to be successful.

I fully agree with you that Herm was the main reason we lost today. I think you agree with this ... I think we have less than 0 chance for Herm to take us to a SB.

I'm still amazed that Go Chiefs is calling for Herm's firing.

I'd probably promote Herm to GM (just wanna see if those drafts are his) and maybe go after Garret for HC. Realistically though, the Cowboys put him in place before hiring their HC. He will be the next Cowboys HC, I'm afraid.

We need to stick with Herm.

While I agree that he isn't the best manager of the game, I like him as a talent evalulator, and he seems to always have his team ready to play.

I don't think its a good thing to constantly be changing coaching staffs in hopes to strike lightning. I like what I see on defense and I don't want to see us take a step back on that side of the ball. We need some help on offense, but we struck gold with Bowe and a lot of talent in the skill positions. we ust need some linemen.

Give it time folks, hell you've made it this long whats another year. Plus I'd rather watch a good defensive team who is in every game then the crap DV was selling.

How do I know Kiffin will not succeed? 1) No Head Coaching experience. none. Not High School, Not College, and not Pro. Could someone succeed? sure. The odds are slimmer than Go chiefs being elected president though.
2) Al Davis. I do agree with you that there is less than 0 chance of Herm taking us to a Super Bowl. The odds are the same that this team is as good as it will get under Herm.

This is just more of the same crap, man. It's Carl hiring one of his under qualified buddies and ignoring everyone else. Then he forces Solari on him, and probably Gunther, who isn't that great, too. This organization is stale. We need an enema so bad it hurts. The front office is full of tenured fuddie duddies.

FIRE EVERYONE. GUT THE ORGANIZATION. These ****ers aren't winning SHIT. Under Herm we will CONSTANTLY start out slow and we'll constantly experience bullshit like what happened yesterday.

ARROWHEAD IS DYING. Do something before it's DEAD.

:deevee: :deevee: :deevee:

I absolutely agree with you. He is a good pro personnel man. He is in the wrong job. His Career path should lead to the front office. He is not a head coach. Managing the Game is a head coaches job. Personnel evaluating and procurement is for the front office.

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I'd be for hiring Kermit and firing Herm.

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I don't understand ... why would we want to stick with a coach who "... isn't the best manager of the game...." Talent does a team no good if the coach can't/won't win with it!!!

Why give him one more year? We will be one year longer rebuilding the team. But, you'll get your wish. Not only will Herm have one more year he'll have at least 3.

I guess I will need to find a hobby and forget about following this team. If enough of us do that maybe then Clark will wake up.

Seriously, I'd be for:
1. Cowher
2. Schottenheimer
3. Jarrett
4. Santa Claus
5. Easter Bunny
6. Anyone with a pulse

FIRE Herm!

What I don't understand is that many of you have said that you want to rebuild, but when we actually start the process you bitch, cry and demand the HC to be fired.

I'm willing to rebuild, thats why I'm thrilled to see Croyle and Smith on the field and starting.

most people said they would love to rebuild take a bad record get a high draft pick, and get ready for the 2010 season, now we start losing games and all of a sudden herm needs to be fired :rolleyes:

HERM FOREVER!!! WE WANT HERM! WE WANT HERM!

Goatsex,

Of all the games to turn on Herm, why this one?

I'll explain everything in great detail when I write tomorrow.

:clap:

I have been wondering this for a few weeks. So many at the beginning of the season said they could care less of what happened during the season as long as some of the new players got PT and we could see what we got. Well now we are playing those young players and losing but in the true CP way we are going to bitch and complain about something. :shake:

If they are rebuilding, be honest about it. Donnie Edwards has been a great addition to the defense this year, but bringing him in at this stage of his career has zero to do with rebuilding. If you were truly rebuilding, you wouldn't sign LJ to a long term deal, because a rebuilding project is going to extend beyiond his productive years.

The other thing is if you are going to build something, build something worth building. A perennial playoff contender is not worth building. Build a dynasty. Your goal should be to build the best Offensive Unit and the Best Defensive Unit in the NFL. Your goal should be to shut every team out and to score a TD on ever possession.

I'm happy rebuilding. I just wish Herm wouldn't touch or influence the offensive gameplan.

So we can't want Croyle to play AND want Herm to at least attempt to get a first down against Indy AND want him to manage his time outs better against Oakland. The things people are complaining about are separate issues and are not mutually exclusive. You don't have the same people complaining about not play Croyle one week and calling him a bust the next.

rebuilding doesn't take that long in the NFL with free agency and solid drafts.

I think LJ has plenty of gas in the take as he has only been the starter for 2 years. We just need to focus him, he needs to want a championship.

I don't have a problem with bringing in a player like Edwards. Sure he is on the downside, but not every position can be staffed with a young promising player.

LJ is going to be completely done by 09....he's already showing signs. If anyone thinks he'll be anymore than a marginally productive Eddie George later years type by then, they are asking a ton.

And once again Cdcox is right on the money....the Chiefs should but giant band aids on their helmets it's the whole mantra of this organizations thought of how to build a team.

Realistically, we're still going to have to turn over half our starting line up in order to compete for a SB, when you consider the ages of some of our starters. You can't do that in a year or two. Not to mention that the QB situation will take a few years to resolve/develop.

Realistically, the first thing we have to do is clean up the FO first, and put together a competent FO before you can put together a competent roster.

That would be my preference.

Considering we are talking good starters, and not doing things like playing Jeff Webb.

Talent doesn't matter. Our head coach is Herm Edwards.

If Clark is like his dad I'll probably die before this franchise wins anything.

If the Chiefs were willing to pay him enough then there is no way they can stop us. Besides, with Dallas doing as well as they are do you think they are going to mess with a winning formula? Barring a late season collapse I think the Cowboys would be wise to stick with Phillips. No team goes to the super bowl or even deep into the playoffs and then turns around and fires their head coach.

In his AFL days, Lamar had a ton of fire in his belly. The Chiefs were one of the most aggressive teams in the draft wars against the NFL. Hunt wanted to beat the NFL baaaaad. Then once the NFL was forced to take the AFL and once he one his SB, his competitive fire seemed to go out.

If Clark is like his dad, he'll want to make his own bones in the NFL. I'm still holding out hope that things will change in the next few years.

I wonder if people around here will then say bad things about him. I'm not old enough to remember any old times but all through my life time all I've known of Lamar Hunt is an old man that didn't seem to care that much, everyone calls him classy.

I see Jerry Jones win bowls people call him a douche, but to me at least he cares and wants to win.

Really? You think Herm has his team ready to play? Are you kidding me?

I haven't seen a coach since I started watching the Chiefs do such a poor job at getting his team prepared.

I don't like what I see on defense. I think this is a decent defense, but people praise it as if it is the best thing they've seen? this defense is built to just "not give up the big play"...Yeah there are flashes of talent, but it's clear it can get exposed on a given day.

The Chiefs suck at stopping the run. Inconsistent there, and haven't fixed that aspect of their D. That's the first thing you need to work on when building a defense.

I said it once, and I'll say it again, the Chiefs will never have a good offense as long as Herm is the coach. You know why? Because he handcuffs offenses! It's that simple. He doesn't believe in scoring points. His attitude and philosophy is what is strangleholding this team.

I have no faith in the guy. NONE! If people say he is a talent evaluator, then he should just go where he belongs, be a scout, and stay away from coaching.

I'd be ok with giving Mike Singletary a shot.

Give me a break. You act like his injury is due to overuse. Sorry, any runningback is going to potentially break his foot or ankle if it gets caught under a linebacker the way LJ's did.

I see no reason at all to believe he is anywhere close to done. Give him a damn line and he is back to 1,500 yard seasons. LJ and Kolby Smith could potentially be a great 1-2 punch. LJ is the tough north-south runner and Kolby Smith is the shifty one who can make runs to the outside.

How much do you think is a result of the Hunt family almost going tits up over trying to corner the silver market?

Tell that to Marty Schottenhiemer

Do you reallyl think Carl and the Hunts are going to win a bidding war with Jerry Jones? I said this in another post on another thread:
... if the Chiefs offer Garrett a contract to be the Head Coach he will inherit all of their offensive struggles next year. Or he can be the OC for Dallas one more year and then take over that squad with a new stadium, a high paying GM, and one of the most recongnized franchises in the NFL. Ummm as much as I love the Chiefs I see no upside for Garrett here. Remember just because someone offers a job does not mean they will take it.

If you don't acknowledge history you are doomed to repeat it. Heavy workload backs break down....big backs like him also break down....that's 2 strikes right away...

This organization gave RB's big contracts back to back, they didn't learn and they will pay for it.

If you want to get a glimpse of the young Lamar, read the book America's Game by Michael MacCambridge.

I once made a post on this board, saying that the Chiefs need a change in mentality when it comes to ownership. Just a different attitude you know?

that fireyness, competitiveness! I don't see that in Lamar. I once said that on here, that Lamar is responsible for the failures of this franchise, that the Chiefs needed a change in ownership and needed a change in attitude, and I got bashed.

If the Herm experiment does not pan out after year three I think this would be a very good idea.

I think it was more his brothers than Lamar that were in on that scheme. I think it has more to do with that once Lamar had slaid the NFL dragon, that he no longer had a challenge that interested him. After that, it seems he left the running of the franchise more to others and concentrated on league issues.

I know exactly where you are coming from, the whole Chiefs attitude comes from/came from the top down. If Lamar had really been passionate about winning Peterson would have been gone years ago. We can blame Peterson all we want Lamar was the one keeping him there so it was good enough for him.

i know this may sound stupid, but does anyone really care anymore?

I mean about this season. I hope it goes into the tank, just tank it. Lose every frikkn game. Get a top 3 pick.

Hey the Chiefs go 4-12, hopefully that'll lose fanbase, and influence ownership to make changes.

I know rooting to lose is bad. But Im looking at the potential bright sides.

I want a new FO, a new coaching staff and possibly a potential superstar in the draft.

Lets make it clear this franchise needs a shakeup.

...Unfortunately!

On a personal note: Herm's coaching stupidity knows no limits.

I agree with you, now I'm sure someone will say we are bad fans for that view. That how dare we want to lose for better picks.....

Beer Bacon can show up and tell us we don't want top 5 picks because they are to expensive, yes he really said that.

Also Lamar was one of the richest owners in the AFL, that made a big difference as well. Him, Bud Adams, and the Jets owner had the dollars at that time.

And honestly, and I think there are very few organizations that would keep an underachieving GM?

It's been almost 20 years that Peterson is here? Unbelievable.

I think they care about selling tickets. peterson is good enough for building 8-8 teams. But now I think he is starting to wear thin even doing that? Peterson is Good enough to make a few moves to peak the fans interest. I've seen that happen over and over from time to time.

That's why I say 4-12, 5-11 might not be bad? hopefully that'll influence Clark and say look the fans arent coming to the games anymore? we're going into the opposite direction, something is wrong we need to make changes.

I think that is what it will take? And if that is not good enough to get Peterson fired, I will never follow this team again.

As a fan, just view me as the kind of guy, that looks upon severe failure as hope? Hope for a better future, and possibly a shift into the minds that ownership can alter and change their ways of thinking a little.

I just hope that Clark is of his word. As a fan that is what I want to see. If he cares about winning then do the right thing and fire Carl and Herm the heck outta town.

Wade Phillips is a good coach who never gets any credit. Once again you prove you know crap about football.

Sadly for anything to happen I think we'll have to be bad for more than a year......so bad we have blackouts and the fan interest becomes so bad we become a joke franchise.

Nothing else has gotten any change around here.

Jason Garrett would be a major mistake, given it's his first year as an offensive coordinator. Dallas has waaaay more offensive weapons than the Chiefs and until the Chiefs replace at least three offensive lineman next year and add another *good* receiver, they're going to continue to struggle.

Regardless, Jerry Jones will out-spend anyone if he so chooses.

I'm all for 4-12. We MIGHT have a shot at Jake Long.

I was pimping Jake Long 3 weeks ago, you imposter!