According to ESPN Rich McKay out in Atlanta
 

I will link it.

Hrm he's had his good and bad moments as a GM.

At least there's one team that's just as shitty as us

Well our franchise player didn't go to prison...

while Carl sleeps comfortably....

I'm pretty sure he's banging Norma Hunt.....how else could you explain all this?

Ha ha ha ha.

Atlanta is going after Parcells for VP of Football Operations...says ESPN, decision by Wednesday


BUT THAT'S OK, WE HAVE CARL....GET OVER IT...WE'RE IN NO HURRY TO DO ANYTHING....WHY WOULD WE BE, WE'RE SO AWESOME

You know how teams paint slogans on things.....The Chiefs slogan that should be all over Arrowhead and all Chiefs things should be..

"Status quo"

i really hate this piece of shit joke of a franchise

Stevie is gonna totally yell at you man.

McKay was given 4 YEARS and then demoted

Carl is given 20

one franchise is serious, one is ****ing asleep....

Bob Whitsett is available.. :)

I lol'ed @ that to.

The real funny part was that implied that Vick is a franchise player.

Why is everyone still using photobucket when they are out of bandwidth?

One could argue that the Falcons are better, definately have a better recent playoff record. McKay is a good GM, he's taking the fall.

DT

It had nothing to do with your comment.

I don't feel like taking my shit off and reuploading it on another site...it'll be back in about a week...yes I'm lazy.

And my sig has been like that for several days...it takes you that long to notice it? LOL

McKay won a Superbowl in Tampa and took Atlanta to a NFC Championship game....AND GOT DEMOTED in 4 years


WHAT THE **** HAS CARL DONE IN 14 YEARS? HELLO CLARK I'M TALKING TO YOU AND YOUR LAZY ASS FAMILY

Was he in charge when they traded the picks that turned into LT and Brees for Vick?

I think he was with Tampa at that time...

He was in Tampa, but his drafts had very little to do with Tampa winning that superbowl, Brooks, Sapp, and Lynch were all Sam Wyche picks.

A-****ING-MEN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_McKay

As general manager for the Buccaneers from 1993 to 2003, McKay directed six teams that reached the NFC playoffs and one team that won a Super Bowl title. In 1996, McKay hired Tony Dungy as head coach, and in 1999 the Bucs played in the NFC championship game.

During his tenure as general manager, McKay drafted the following players: John Lynch (1993), Trent Dilfer (1994), Warren Sapp (1995), Derrick Brooks (1995), Mike Alstott (1996), Ronde Barber (1997), and Warrick Dunn (1997). McKay constructed the 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers roster that featured 12 Pro Bowl players. Also, the Buccaneers' 41 Pro Bowl selections between 1997 through 2002 were the most in the NFL.

In December 2003, McKay left the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and was introduced as president and general manager of the Atlanta Falcons. In his first season of directing operations, the Falcons went to the NFC Championship game.

I'd take McKay in a freaking heartbeat. Vick is/was the problem in ATL, not McKay.

Well theres a GM ...now all we need is a OC.

This really should be the wakeup call to the fans. Carl sux ass and ownership needs to quit taking the fans for granted. I'm sick of the loser mentality of the franchise.

Who made the decision to get rid of Shaub and keep Vick? Because that was really bad. Was that McKay?

I say that it was a forced move by ownership.

I'd bet Blank was in on that. Could you imagine the outrage in "the A-T-L" if they sent QB Jesus packing and kept the white dude?

I'm sure ownership looked at Vick as being their franchise QB and knew they didn't want to pay Schaub starters money on his next contract. That was slated for 08. I can't say I blame them for trying to get something in return.

i think he sucks, but you give someone a 100mil contract he is a franchise player

I don't know who it was that made the decision but...c'mon, Vick sucked ass. Nobody saw that?

But...but...but...he can throw a football 500 yards! Into the parking lot! Didn't you see that Nike commercial?

Exactly. Hell the people are still wearing his shit at the games, and actually think (and hope) he will be back in 2010.

DT

It hasn't been about how good or bad he was for the last three years. The ATL fan base would all line up to blow Vick one at a time for some unknown f**king reason. My guess is it's the old "he acts like at least as big a POS as I am and HE got rich, so it's possible for me too!!!" thing.

Man what a joke. He would have made a very good WR though. Million dollar body, ten cent head. And the fans loved him? Must suck to be a die hard Falcon fan.

Love. Not past tense.

There was a whole slew of idiots demanding the Falcons give them their money back for their tickets after the team suspended Vick. Blank thought he was doing himself a favor selling the Atlanta Vicks to the, uhm, errr, "population" in Atlanta only to have that bite him in the ass royally.

Vick is the ultimate slash back, because he can make plays at every offensive "skill" position. He would reign terror for the opposition

If the Chiefs were to move Peterson out of the daily football operations (which would be the likely move, if changes were to be made) and McKay hired as GM, he'd more than likely keep Herm because they were close in Tampa Bay.

I'm sure we'd have an excellent draft and new coaches.

Though Tampa Bay's offenses were certainly nothing to be excited about and maybe even worse than what we're seeing this year.

Color of his skin and the majority of the fan base. Hate to say but that is why.

Wikpedia is dead wrong on that. Sapp Brooks and Lynch were al Sam Wyche players.

Well, that exacerbated the problem, but Blank spent a great deal of time and money pimping Vick as the face of the franchise. Trotting him around like a pony at the fair in front of everyone, getting him classes on how to not suck in front of the media, etc.

Crazy. I really haven't followed that aspect of the story much. I used to have a hard time convincing my kids how much real life Vick sucked because they experienced video game Vick. I would rant, my daughter would pick ATL on ESPN NFL2K5 anyway, and I would thrash her with the Broncos ...something like eleventy billion to nothing (Video game Vick didn't like the ol' Bear D too much)...because she pissed me off by buying into the hype. Anyway, with his recent douchebaggery he's been disappeared.

Yea, he really sucked ass in 2006. 22 touchdowns and 1039 yards rushing (8.3 per carry). And he was not exactly surrounded by talent, short of Alge Crumpler he had nobody to throw to.

I mean the guy is a bonehead, but he didn't exactly suck ass. Consider St. Tom Brady only had 24 TDs, and only one less INT than Vick in 2006. Vick ran because he HAD to. His o'line was aweful, and he recievers couldn't catch herpes in Mexico.

DT

That's because Blank knew EXACTLY who he was selling to, and they WERE selling out, something they had not done in years.

DT

yet.

I still think if he was smarter he would have been pimping three to five players instead of one. Go ahead and pick all black players (your marketing guys would tell you that's a smart move), but you should NEVER bankroll the whole thing on one freaking guy. Especially not one with a posse. It's not like he didn't have Warrick Dunn and some other non-hoodlums on the team to choose from.

Dude, Rich McKay was with the Bucs from almost day one. His father was John McKay, their first coach. He was in the player personnel department before becoming the GM.

Regardless of who was coach, McKay oversaw those drafts.

He was their GM from 1993-2003.

None of the Vick shit is his fault.
He could have given Vick some better quality players around him, but I'd take him in a heart beat. SIGN EM CLARK

I would be all for hiring McKay for the Chiefs. Him and Denny Thum together would be a great fit for the Chiefs - football side/business side.

If McKay is REALLY out in Atlanta, Clark better be on the phone immediately.

Some of McKay's protege's:

Jerry Angelo: Chicago Bears. Super Bowl Appearance in 3 years.

Tim Ruskell: Seattle Seahawks. Super Bowl appearance in his first year and playoffs in the following year.

On the local news, they are basically saying he has had the VP title taken away, and it will be up to the new VP if he stays on as GM. I don't see him staying in a diminished role, he's too accomplished for that.

Assuming Herm would stay on, I assume McKay and Herm probably know each other from the tampa days.

DT

Thanks for the info! :thumb:

Dane I have been a Bucs fan since 1979.. McKay became responsible for the drafts starting in 1996 with Marcus Jones, Reagan Upshaw, Donnie Abraham and Mike Alstott picks. After that he picked Warrick Dunn and left the Bucs in cap hell.Tim Ruskell actually had more to do with the Brooks and Lynch picks. Wyche was the one who was after Sapp.

So McKay = overrated?

Who hired Gruden, BTW?

I forgot to mention that the local news is also reporting that Parcells has been offered the VP of football operations position.

DT

How could McKay be the GM of the Bucs starting in 1993, yet not have control of his drafts?

This makes no sense.

And FWIW, my parents moved to St. Pete's in 1993 and stayed until 1998. I'm pretty familiar with the Bucs as well.

'sup McTranny. Still there?

Good to see that there are certain posters on here who realize Carl is not the sole problem within this organization.

The individuals who deserve the blame is the Hunt family and King Carl

Everybody was after Shaub, he would have gone eventually anyway; besides, it doesn't look like he can stay healthy as a full time starter, but who knows, I just don't think it was a "bad" move.

The only part I will disagree with with is the talent question; in 2006 I believe he had two top 20 WR draft picks, White and Jenkins. He chose not to throw much of the time. I know he can run and should have in the right times; I only saying he had talent there, he made the choices; they weren't "not open" 75% of the time.

Anyway, on topic - Parcells will be a good GM and I do hope we sign someone else.

I wouldn't want to coach with Parcells looking over my shoulder...

McKay= Overrated and Gruden was a Glazers hire, McKay wanted Marvin Lewis desperately.

it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about McKay..the point is that he has won a Superbowl and been to an NFC Championship game in the last decade, and yet the Atlanta organization canned him after 4 years...

Carl has a record of abject failure for 14 straight years, and he has the most job security in the league...

Bingo.

Dude, have you not seen our GM the last 20 years? I'd take that resume over Carl's anytime.

So what, Peterson hired Gunther Cunningham and Herm Edwards.

The Falcons made it to the Superbowl after the '98 season. I'd still take the last two decades with Carl Peterson over the last two decades of Falcons football.

Are there really people out there who'd prefer the Falcons over that time period? We'd have probably lost the franchise to another city by now.

was McKay even with the Falcons in '98? I thought he was with Tampa Bay back then?

FYP

You're comparing the wrong teams. McKay was with Tampa 1993-2003.

I think Mckay sounds better than Bradway, since jack keeps blabbering about him

McCay took the Bucs to a Superbowl, and then took the Falcons to an NFC Championship, and then got canned after 4 years by Blank....

Carl, since Marty left, has accomplished nothing...and his job as secure as any in the NFL...

could you maybe try to stay on topic? this isn't the DC forum...

Meh, I think McKay's job was ultra-safe until he traded a franchise QB (Schaub) and hired a sketchy coach (Petrino) and made the Falcons the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL...

Sure, Vick should take the blame here...but the GM gave him that huge contract and then proceeded to make all of these personnel decisions (letting go of Kerney) etc. etc. etc.

Besides, Blank still wants McKay to be the team President...