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BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 01:05 PM

Lakers or Celtics?
 
and why

88TG88 06-04-2008 01:06 PM

Lakers

because they're better

Pablo 06-04-2008 01:07 PM

Celtics...because I don't really care about pro ball, but Paul Pierce played for the best fucking college program ever.

vailpass 06-04-2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 4780079)
Celtics...because I don't really care about pro ball, but Paul Pierce played for the best fucking college program ever.

He was a Bruin? Or a Tarheel?

Fishpicker 06-04-2008 01:08 PM

Celtics. home court and a better bench

StcChief 06-04-2008 01:09 PM

Don't care, anybody but Kobe and Co.

is a mid-air Jet collusion of both team planes possible?

88TG88 06-04-2008 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4780080)
He was a Bruin? Or a Tarheel?

nice

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishpicker (Post 4780081)
Celtics. home court and a better bench

A better bench LMFAO. There are a lot of reasons why I can see people picking the celtics starting with the fact that they have 3 franchise players and the best D in the league. The best bench though, not even close bro the Lakers have a much deeper bench.

Chiefs_5627 06-04-2008 01:13 PM

LA in 7, KG n CO will make a good run but Kobe will "will" Lakers to win out.

Pablo 06-04-2008 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4780080)
He was a Bruin? Or a Tarheel?

Incorrect.

Molitoth 06-04-2008 01:16 PM

Celtics in 7. I could care less either way, I like both teams this year.

vailpass 06-04-2008 01:16 PM

It will be interesting to see how Kobe show's up on the big stage while he is supposed to be the big dog.

vailpass 06-04-2008 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 4780091)
Incorrect.

Sorry, I thought you said greatest college hoops program ever.

Pablo 06-04-2008 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4780097)
Sorry, I thought you said greatest college hoops program ever.

I did. That program is in Lawrence, KS though.

Blah, blah..John Wooden...shit ton of NC's...blah blah Dean Smith...blah blah. Sure.

POND_OF_RED 06-04-2008 01:18 PM

Lakers in 6 because they play in the Western Conference

vailpass 06-04-2008 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 4780100)
I did. That program is in Lawrence, KS though.

Blah, blah..John Wooden...shit ton of NC's...blah blah Dean Smith...blah blah. Sure.

ROFL Whatever works in your world man. I give you joy of it.

vailpass 06-04-2008 01:21 PM

I'm going to watch the coaching battle between Doc and the Zen Triangle shaman.
The other thing I'm going to watch is whether Ray Allen is a prime time player or not.

Friendo 06-04-2008 01:26 PM

Celts--Ray Allen...dare I say it--Sam Cassell-hoping anyway

bogey 06-04-2008 01:27 PM

Lakers, why? They're the better team.

little jacob 06-04-2008 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 4780100)
I did. That program is in Lawrence, KS though.

Blah, blah..John Wooden...shit ton of NC's...blah blah Dean Smith...blah blah. Sure.

yeah what did john wooden ever do

Saulbadguy 06-04-2008 01:32 PM

Lakers in 6. Kobe.

Amnorix 06-04-2008 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs_5627 (Post 4780090)
LA in 7, KG n CO will make a good run but Kobe will "will" Lakers to win out.


I voted Celtics in 7, but that's my heart, not my head. My head says more like Lakers in 6. Either way, I won't crow about my prediction.

I will say this -- if the Celtics GET to game 7, their chances of winning are alot better than 50/50. Between homecourt advantage and the desperation of 3 stars to win their first ring, you gotta give a huge nod to the Celtics.

Amnorix 06-04-2008 01:39 PM

Hey -- stupid question -- does anyone actually think the 2-3-2 format is a GOOD idea? I know I'm being a homer about it, but it's insane to me that if everyone holds homecourt advantage, the team with the "advantage" goes back home at a 3-2 disadvantage. :eek:

keg in kc 06-04-2008 01:53 PM

I vote for 'natural disaster ending series during game 1' since I think they both suck.

Since that's not a choice, I'll say Celtics in 6, for no other reason than I dislike them marginally less than the Lakers.

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4780152)
I vote for 'natural disaster ending series during game 1' since I think they both suck.

Since that's not a choice, I'll say Celtics in 6, for no other reason than I dislike them marginally less than the Lakers.

Off the anti-depressants again?

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 4780135)
Hey -- stupid question -- does anyone actually think the 2-3-2 format is a GOOD idea? I know I'm being a homer about it, but it's insane to me that if everyone holds homecourt advantage, the team with the "advantage" goes back home at a 3-2 disadvantage. :eek:

After playing in the East you guys shouldn't even be able to have a home court advantage. :p

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 01:56 PM

First game is going to be huge.

keg in kc 06-04-2008 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 4780155)
Off the anti-depressants again?

Since I've never been on any, I guess I'd have to say 'yes' to that.

SCTrojan 06-04-2008 02:03 PM

I don't really care one way or the other, but I am a fan of Paul Pierce and definitely KG. So I picked Celtics in 7.

When I was in college, there was no way in hell I would have picked the Celtics. I was a big fan of the "Showtime" vintage Lakers.

Sanka 06-04-2008 02:06 PM

Buck Foston

Chiefs Pantalones 06-04-2008 02:11 PM

Celtics in 6. Better overall team, better bench.

And Paul Pierce. GO KU!!!! :)

Simply Red 06-04-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 4780079)
Celtics...because I don't really care about pro ball, but Paul Pierce played for the best fucking college program ever.

:doh!:

Simply Red 06-04-2008 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 4780126)
Lakers in 6. Kobe.

Yep, best player in the league.

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4780186)
Celtics in 6. Better overall team, better bench.

And Paul Pierce. GO KU!!!! :)

There is no way in hell they have a better bench. What ****ing planet are you guys from?

Brock 06-04-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 4780195)
:doh!:

:KU:

luv 06-04-2008 03:10 PM

Celtics in 7. 21 years waiting for revenge. I think it will be a well faught battle. Lakers winning again wouldn't surprise me, but I can't stand seeing the reason they win being because of a single player. Do the Lakers absolutely suck without Kobe?

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 4780261)
Celtics in 7. 21 years waiting for revenge. I think it will be a well faught battle. Lakers winning again wouldn't surprise me, but I can't stand seeing the reason they win being because of a single player. Do the Lakers absolutely suck without Kobe?

Better than winning because you went out and acquired 3 franchise players.

No they wouldn't suck without Kobe if they had Bynum.

rambleonthruthefog 06-04-2008 03:22 PM

who cares. the spurs aren't playing

http://images.art.com/images/-/San-A...C10106609.jpeg

bogey 06-04-2008 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 4780265)
Better than winning because you went out and acquired 3 franchise players.

No they wouldn't suck without Kobe if they had Bynum.

I guess that depends on your definition of sucks. I'm not sure they would have even made the playoffs without Kobe.

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogey (Post 4780296)
I guess that depends on your definition of sucks. I'm not sure they would have even made the playoffs without Kobe.

Take KG or Peirce out of Boston and they wouldn't be here either. We really cannot compare the East and the West.

Rooster 06-04-2008 03:45 PM

I couldn't really care less but I have always disliked the Lakers soooo...... GO CELTICS!!!!!:D

Spott 06-04-2008 03:47 PM

Lakers only because I like Phil Jackson from when he coached for the Bulls.

bogey 06-04-2008 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 4780299)
Take KG or Peirce out of Boston and they wouldn't be here either. We really cannot compare the East and the West.

Not trying to take anything away from the Lakers because they are a great team. But seeing as Kobe is the best player in the NBA and quite possibly the best player of all time, the Lakers would be mediocre at best without him. He has more impact on this team than any other super star has on any other team. Kobe makes his team mates play better.

Spott 06-04-2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogey (Post 4780306)
But seeing as Kobe is the best player in the NBA and quite possibly the best player of all time.

He's not even the best Laker of all time.

ArrowheadHawk 06-04-2008 03:57 PM

I'm going to go the homer way and pick my boy Pierce's team to win in 6.

bogey 06-04-2008 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 4780312)
He's not even the best Laker of all time.

There are many that would disagree with you. But, like they say, opinions are like assholes, everybody has one.

L.A. Chieffan 06-04-2008 04:16 PM

Phil will be lighting that 10th cigar and laughing on Red's grave.

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogey (Post 4780306)
Not trying to take anything away from the Lakers because they are a great team. But seeing as Kobe is the best player in the NBA and quite possibly the best player of all time, the Lakers would be mediocre at best without him. He has more impact on this team than any other super star has on any other team. Kobe makes his team mates play better.

No doubt.

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 4780347)
Phil will be lighting that 10th cigar and laughing on Red's grave.

NICE!!!

BWillie 06-04-2008 04:35 PM

Celtics have home court advantage, therefore they will win. People bag on the Celtics but they had one hell of a regular season. What did they lose like 15 games? It isn't pretty but they get it done.

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4780372)
Celtics have home court advantage, therefore they will win. People bag on the Celtics but they had one hell of a regular season. What did they lose like 15 games? It isn't pretty but they get it done.

Nice avatar. LMAO

BIG_DADDY 06-04-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4780372)
Celtics have home court advantage, therefore they will win. People bag on the Celtics but they had one hell of a regular season. What did they lose like 15 games? It isn't pretty but they get it done.

Wanna bet?

L.A. Chieffan 06-04-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4780372)
Celtics have home court advantage, therefore they will win. People bag on the Celtics but they had one hell of a regular season. What did they lose like 15 games? It isn't pretty but they get it done.

How can you write that with Jerry in your avy?

POND_OF_RED 06-04-2008 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4780372)
Celtics have home court advantage, therefore they will win. People bag on the Celtics but they had one hell of a regular season. What did they lose like 15 games? It isn't pretty but they get it done.

The Lakers had 9 more losses in a conference that was twice as competitive. I know as a KU fan you blind yourself to the level of competition and look only at statistics, but you will find out again like you did in late November last year that playing competitive teams throughout the year help tremendously at the end of the year.

kcxiv 06-04-2008 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 4780385)
How can you write that with Jerry in your avy?

Yeah, seems like a Laker hater, but has Mr. Logo as his avatar. haha.

DaneMcCloud 06-04-2008 11:30 PM

Lakers.

Kobe, Pau & Odom.

kcxiv 06-04-2008 11:41 PM

http://www.lakersmedia.com/?p=145#comment-295
This Video from JD2K over at lakers ground is sick.

BWillie 06-04-2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 4781007)
Yeah, seems like a Laker hater, but has Mr. Logo as his avatar. haha.

Who said I hate the Lakers? I just think Boston is going to win. I like both teams equally actually and I have been rooting for the Lakers hard up until this point. As I said before, if either team is down I want the other one to win until it goes to game 7. Then I will root for my man Paul Pierce, the motherfuckin Truth

kcxiv 06-04-2008 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4781026)
Who said I hate the Lakers? I just think Boston is going to win. I like both teams equally actually and I have been rooting for the Lakers hard up until this point. As I said before, if either team is down I want the other one to win until it goes to game 7. Then I will root for my man Paul Pierce, the motherfuckin Truth

Always liked Pierce myself. I dont hate Boston. Not yet anyways. The 80's was so long ago and i was still about 7 years old, but boy do i remember watching that shit. I was a hardcore sports freak even at that age. Hell my dads friends would call the house and ask me the scores. haha.

Anyways. I cant wait for tomorrow.

BWillie 06-05-2008 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 4780383)
Wanna bet?

I'll be 1000 casino cash the Celtics defeat the Lakers in the series. You game?

Amnorix 06-05-2008 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 4780265)
Better than winning because you went out and acquired 3 franchise players.

No they wouldn't suck without Kobe if they had Bynum.

Wait, they "acquired" Pierce? Yeah, like ten years ago.

And the team that got Gasol for a bag of popcorn doesn't have a leg to stand on here. Without him, you would never have gotten this far.

Amnorix 06-05-2008 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogey (Post 4780306)
Not trying to take anything away from the Lakers because they are a great team. But seeing as Kobe is the best player in the NBA and quite possibly the best player of all time, the Lakers would be mediocre at best without him. He has more impact on this team than any other super star has on any other team. Kobe makes his team mates play better.

:eek:ROFL

cadmonkey 06-05-2008 07:03 AM

Celtics in 6.

The Celts are back to playing the way they were in the regular season. They shut everyone up now that they won on the road, and know they can go into LA and win there. They were 2-0 vs. the Lakers durring the regular season, yes I know that was before they got Gasol, but who gives a shit. The Cetics D stopped Lebron James, no reason why they can't shut down Kobe too.

Lzen 06-05-2008 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEA_OF_RED (Post 4780990)
The Lakers had 9 more losses in a conference that was twice as competitive. I know as a KU fan you blind yourself to the level of competition and look only at statistics, but you will find out again like you did in late November last year that playing competitive teams throughout the year help tremendously at the end of the year.

Yeah, really. That is so true. I mean, it really helped the MU Tigers that 2nd time around playing OU in the Big 12 Championship game........oh......wait.......nm.

Chiefs Pantalones 06-05-2008 08:51 AM

Boston will win because they much better defense than the Lakers. The Lakers D is so spotty and in transition they are the suck. I would run, run and run some more if I were Doc. They will have no answer for Garnett either, dude is going to go off, both on offense and on defense.

I'm just glad we get to see a great, watchable series and a renewed rivalry, regardless of who wins.

I want the Celtics to win because of Pierce (GO KU!), but I won't mind seeing my boy Phil Jackson get his 10th title because I'm a Bulls fan and want him to do well also.

Either way, it beats the Spurs vs. Pistons, am I right? lol

Mr. Laz 06-05-2008 09:50 AM

celtics in 6


cuz i hope the lakers all get anal fleas

BIG_DADDY 06-05-2008 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadmonkey (Post 4781134)
Celtics in 6.

The Celts are back to playing the way they were in the regular season. They shut everyone up now that they won on the road, and know they can go into LA and win there. They were 2-0 vs. the Lakers durring the regular season, yes I know that was before they got Gasol, but who gives a shit. The Cetics D stopped Lebron James, no reason why they can't shut down Kobe too.

:bong:

Pasta Little Brioni 06-05-2008 11:08 AM

Well as much hype as it's getting it better be a close, competitive series. The bar has been set pretty high with the hype machine, so it better be good.

BIG_DADDY 06-05-2008 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 4781120)
Wait, they "acquired" Pierce? Yeah, like ten years ago.

And the team that got Gasol for a bag of popcorn doesn't have a leg to stand on here. Without him, you would never have gotten this far.

Bynum went down dog. If we had still had Bynum we would have been just fine. Wait till we get the twin towers next season and add Ariza. You guys think you have tough D? You ain't seen nothing yet. This is your one chance at a title barring no major injuries to the Lakers from here on out.

kcxiv 06-05-2008 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 4781410)
:bong:

haha, yeah, You cant stop Kobe. As much as i think Lebron is a damned fine player. He still doesnt have Kobe's range. Not to mention Odom and Gasol in the middle. Tonight its on though.

BIG_DADDY 06-05-2008 01:30 PM

My favorite in this thread was the Celtics fans saying they had a deeper bench. I called everyone out on this but nobody responded. Here is Charles Barlkey's take.

Barkley: Many reasons to love L.A. in this series
Updated 17h ago


Enlarge By Robert Hanashiro, USA TODAY

Charles Barkley holds court in his role as an analyst for TNT's studio show, where he's worked since 2000.






Yahoo! Buzz Digg Newsvine Reddit FacebookWhat's this?By Charles Barkley, as told to USA TODAY
David Stern has a smile wider than the NBA's favorite postseason graybeard, Phil Jackson.
The commissioner presides over a mouthwatering Los Angeles-Boston showdown in the Finals, a dream pairing that ranks up there with Yankees-Red Sox. (Tell my boy, D-Wade, that I'm building up a powerful hunger just imagining the possibilities.)[/B]The Lakers-Celtics is good for the game and good for the league. Just like found money.

Conspiracy? Uh-uh. These are the two best teams.

What's even more delicious is that the only folks in the preseason who thought the Lakers would get this far were —surprise— the Lakers. Let's be honest, right off jump ball street: The Celtics are going to have to play perfect basketball to win the NBA title.

Boston's big trio of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen must play well every game just for the Celtics to have a chance. They also need major contributions from Rajon Rondo and Kendrick Perkins. They must shoot a high percentage from the floor. And they can't afford too many turnovers.

The Celtics have no room for error.

The Lakers, however, have plenty of margin for miscalculations, though I'm sure Phil doesn't want his players to hear that. Pau Gasol does not have to play exceptionally well. Neither does Lamar Odom.

Three reasons why the Lakers will beat the Celtics:

• No. 1: Kobe Bryant.

• No. 2: Phil Jackson.

• No. 3: A superior bench.

With Kobe, the Lakers have the NBA's most accomplished player. Worse for the Celtics, they have no one who can shut down No. 24. He can score from anywhere. His mental discipline is fabulous. His is one of the most remarkable turnarounds this season I've ever seen, not just in the NBA, but in all of sports.

One day, the guy wants to be traded. They booed him the first game. Training camp started, they squashed it: "Shut the hell up. We're here, let's go."

Meanwhile, the Celtics do not boast a single player of Kobe's ilk. Then again, not many teams do.

Secondly, Jackson is the best coach-psychologist.

C'mon, the dude's won nine championships. Doc Rivers is a good coach and a great guy, and you have to give him credit. He was in a lose-lose situation. The Celtics had to get to the Finals after those trades.

Phil also gives his Lakers a huge advantage in at least one important area: He touches players' minds.

Remember, in a close-out Game 5 against the defending champion San Antonio Spurs, and down by 17, Phil had his best players — Kobe, Pau and Lamar, who had three fouls — on the bench.

It was a stroke of genius — the Lakers made their run. That's the plan of a master motivator. It was one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. Any other coach would have yelled, "Kobe! Back in the game!" Phil was breeding confidence in his bench.

The X factor: the Lakers' bench strength. Boston can't match it. The Celtics go through stretches when they can't score; they don't get easy baskets.

Boston has three guys who can score — Los Angeles has 12. Besides Odom, Gasol and Kobe, (Vladimir) Radmanovic can score. So can (Jordan) Farmar, (Sasha) Vujacic, (Derek) Fisher, (Luke) Walton, etc.

The Lakers have a distinct advantage at every spot on the floor. The only spot where the Celtics might have an edge is Kevin Garnett against Odom or Gasol, depending on who guards him.

The Celtics no have physical advantages. Perkins is too little to guard Gasol. Garnett can't cheat on him because he probably has to guard Odom.

Don't try to convince me about home-court advantage. Yes, it has been a difference-maker this postseason. But, no, it does not serve Boston well. I've always believed that the 2-3-2 format is a significant disadvantage for the home team. Yes, the Celtics could play four games in Boston, but they need to win the first two. Advantage: road team, baby.

If the Lakers split in Beantown, it's a victory. Yes, they must win at least one game in Boston, but they get two cracks at it and a possible big head of steam going back to Los Angeles. They could even lose the first two and go home, win three in a row and recapture the series' momentum. I don't see the Lakers going into Boston and losing Games 1 and 2.

It doesn't matter that Boston was 2-0 against L.A. during the season. Ancient history. That was 2008 PG — Pre-Gasol. He took the Lakers to another level.

These Lakers are a totally different animal. They have so many advantages, it's tough to keep up …

The MVP guard, the inscrutable coach and the young, talented reserves.

Take it from your favorite "fat boy" TNT analyst: It is the Lakers who look really phat right now.

***

CupidStunt 06-05-2008 01:38 PM

Lakers in five.

BOS
LA
-
LA
LA
LA

Good night.

BIG_DADDY 06-05-2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lj4mvp (Post 4781661)
Lakers in five.

BOS
LA
-
LA
LA
LA

Good night.

I am really hoping the Lakers take the first one. Phil is 41-0 when winning the first game in the post season.

Ozarks-Chiefs-Fan 06-05-2008 02:05 PM

Who from the Lakers is going to try and guard Pierce?

Celts in 6.

Chiefs Pantalones 06-05-2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarks-Chiefs-Fan (Post 4781740)
Who from the Lakers is going to try and guard Pierce?

Celts in 6.

Pierce has always had good games against Kobe.

Who is going to stop Garnett?

BIG_DADDY 06-05-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4781751)
Pierce has always had good games against Kobe.

Who is going to stop Garnett?

Yea, yea, yea. You'e the guy that said the Celtics have the deeper bench too. LMAO Yea Kobe can't hold Pierce's jock. :bong:

Lamar has always done good on Garnett.

teedubya 06-05-2008 02:15 PM

I hate the Lakers. I like the Laker dancers, though.

Chiefs Pantalones 06-05-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 4781762)
Yea, yea, yea. You'e the guy that said the Celtics have the deeper bench too. LMAO Yea Kobe can't hold Pierce's jock. :bong:

Lamar has always done good on Garnett.

SHUT UP!! CELTICS IN 2!!! haha

Easy 6 06-05-2008 02:37 PM

Celtics in 6...mark. it. down.

Kobes had his...KG & co. wont be denied theirs.

Friendo 06-05-2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 4781830)
Celtics in 6...mark. it. down.

Kobes had his...KG & co. wont be denied theirs.


hope so, but Doc & staff will have to be on their game! :thumb:


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