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CoMoChief 06-13-2008 05:51 PM

Yahoo ranks 25 worst Rappers of all Time
 
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/lis...x6erWa5FjLwSUv

ROFL at # 25 and #11

SAUTO 06-13-2008 05:58 PM

COME on this list has master p, diddy AND, 2 live crew someones smoking tha good stuff or just crazy

88TG88 06-13-2008 06:00 PM

How is K-Fed not number 1 ?

kcxiv 06-13-2008 06:04 PM

Master P's early records with "The Ghetto's trying to kill me and his first TRU album were ****ing badass. I still have them. 1992 and 1993 releases. After he got big, he sucked, but he has some classic that will forever be in my library no doubt.

Third Eye 06-13-2008 06:07 PM

I would like to say that I whole-heartedly disagree with the inclusion of Mr. Will Smith. Summertime is one of the greatest tracks ever. Is he on the level of Outkast or the Sugar Hill Gang? No. But he sure as hell isn't on the level of Vanilla Ice and Shaquille.

Edit- wow, didn't even see 2 Live Crew. You can what you want about their lyrics, but their beats defined that "Miami bass sound."

pikesome 06-13-2008 06:10 PM

I'm not sure I can speak to the rap rankings, but calling Body Count "rap-metal" means he's a f'in idiot.

evolve27 06-13-2008 06:11 PM

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At least we know this much...

ZootedGranny 06-13-2008 06:16 PM

My favorite thing about this list is that the author himself looks like a shitty indie rapper.

What's worse is that you can easily argue that more than half of that list is wrong even though most of those rappers are usually indefensible.

88TG88 06-13-2008 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 4793104)
I would like to say that I whole-heartedly disagree with the inclusion of Mr. Will Smith. Summertime is one of the greatest tracks ever. Is he on the level of Outkast or the Sugar Hill Gang? No. But he sure as hell isn't on the level of Vanilla Ice and Shaquille.

Summer Madness was WAYYYY better.

StcChief 06-13-2008 06:17 PM

No need to rank them... they are all bad.

ChiefsFanatic 06-13-2008 06:23 PM

I will say this, anyone who has listened to some full albums from Will Smith will know that he can string words together like crazy. he and Eminem are so good at just reeling words off so quickly it almost makes it impossible to sing along. I might be square, but I like Will Smith as a rapper. I do not enjoy gangsta rap at all.

El Jefe 06-13-2008 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 4793104)
I would like to say that I whole-heartedly disagree with the inclusion of Mr. Will Smith. Summertime is one of the greatest tracks ever. Is he on the level of Outkast or the Sugar Hill Gang? No. But he sure as hell isn't on the level of Vanilla Ice and Shaquille.

Edit- wow, didn't even see 2 Live Crew. You can what you want about their lyrics, but their beats defined that "Miami bass sound."

Agree 110%

kcxiv 06-13-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 4793113)
I will say this, anyone who has listened to some full albums from Will Smith will know that he can string words together like crazy. he and Eminem are so good at just reeling words off so quickly it almost makes it impossible to sing along. I might be square, but I like Will Smith as a rapper. I do not enjoy gangsta rap at all.

The stuff i listened to was about how life actually is if you grow up in the "hood" or whatever. The rap they all have out now, isnt even about that anymore. I dont know wtf they rap about, having ****ing gold ****ing teeth or something. I dont only like rap though. I listen to prog rock/metal/rock whatever. Just no speed or death metal. Hardest i will go is Pantera.

Rain Man 06-13-2008 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 4793110)
No need to rank them... they are all bad.

Yeah, what defines a good rapper versus a bad rapper? Are the bad ones not able to read or something? Rating rappers is like rating the voice on the elevator that tells blind people what floor they're on.

ZootedGranny 06-13-2008 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 4793136)
Yeah, what defines a good rapper versus a bad rapper? Are the bad ones not able to read or something?

I doubt you actually want an answer, but the main things that separate the good from the bad are wordplay and delivery.

StcChief 06-13-2008 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 4793136)
Yeah, what defines a good rapper versus a bad rapper? Are the bad ones not able to read or something? Rating rappers is like rating the voice on the elevator that tells blind people what floor they're on.

the good ones are the did dead ones, they don't have to that schtick anymore

KCChiefsMan 06-13-2008 06:50 PM

Nelly should be higher on the list as well as Chingy. Will Smith does not deserve to be on that list and neither does 2 Live Crew

Rain Man 06-13-2008 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZootedGranny (Post 4793146)
I doubt you actually want an answer, but the main things that separate the good from the bad are wordplay and delivery.

You're right, of course. I didn't want an answer.





Seriously, I recognize that there are differences between them, and that some are better to listen to than others. I honestly think that rappers are really just poets rather than musicians, though. Look at beat poets from the 1960s and rappers are clearly closer to them than they are to singing groups.

I've got no major problem with rap, but it's not music, it's poetry.

StcChief 06-13-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 4793156)
You're right, of course. I didn't want an answer.





Seriously, I recognize that there are differences between them, and that some are better to listen to than others. I honestly think that rappers are really just poets rather than musicians, though. Look at beat poets from the 1960s and rappers are clearly closer to them than they are to singing groups.

I've got no major problem with rap, but it's not music, it's poetry.

yeah, that's a far analogy... Beat Poets had hippy chicks... Rappers have 'hos :shrug:

Sully 06-13-2008 07:08 PM

This list is a traveshamockery, evidenced by one omission....

No "Snow" (Informer) at number one.

Ultra Peanut 06-13-2008 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZootedGranny (Post 4793108)
My favorite thing about this list is that the author himself looks like a shitty indie rapper.

Nerdcore.

KCUnited 06-13-2008 08:47 PM

Rob O'Connor aka Elton Lil' John.

mikeyis4dcats. 06-13-2008 09:14 PM

I kinda like Nelly.

And I also wondered how Snow didn't make the list

Ultra Peanut 06-13-2008 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 4793246)
Rob O'Connor aka Elton Lil' John.

Wrapped up like a douche, OOOOOKAAAAAAAAY

teedubya 06-13-2008 09:23 PM

I had that Bobby Jimmy and the Critters... FECKING hilarious. Too bad I cant track it down... I laughed my ass off as a kid. Rap Parody... awesome.

SBK 06-13-2008 09:33 PM

Soulja Boy is missing his place on top. Ya doo doo head dummy.

ZootedGranny 06-13-2008 09:53 PM

I can't hate on Soulja Boy.

Two years ago I see him on Youtube dancing at his mom's house, then a year later I'm listening to his first bootleg release, then I hear he gets signed, next thing you know stadiums around the world are playing his music and athletes are dancing to his song after touchdowns.

His music is shit, but if cats can make millions of dollars rapping about making millions selling crack, I can't be mad that some teenager is having fun and saying "SUPERMAN THAT HOE" over snap beats.

YAAAHHHHHH BITCH YAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Deberg_1990 06-13-2008 10:08 PM

No Snow "Informer" on this list??

POND_OF_RED 06-13-2008 11:45 PM

Bow Wow and Omarion should be high on that list. To make it worse they actually made a CD together. :Lin:

SPATCH 06-14-2008 12:09 PM

no "worst rappers" list will ever be complete without the inclusion of soulja boy.

add also: MIMS, ying yang twins, and dem franchize boyz

these guys are a disgrace to hip-hop

vailpass 06-14-2008 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 4793838)
no "worst rappers" list will ever be complete without the inclusion of soulja boy.

add also: MIMS, ying yang twins, and dem franchize boyz

these guys are a disgrace to hip-hop

jumbo shrimp?

Stewie 06-14-2008 12:20 PM

I'm glad LL Cool J isn't on the list. He's the one rapper I like. I'm a rap ignoramus and I hadn't heard of several of those people.

SPATCH 06-14-2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4793841)
jumbo shrimp?

there is a lot of good rap out there. you just have to look in the right place, and the radio is not the place

Thig Lyfe 06-14-2008 01:30 PM

GUYS HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THAT RAP RHYMES WITH CRAP

XXXshogunXXX 06-14-2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 4793885)
GUYS HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THAT RAP RHYMES WITH CRAP

NO WAY!!?

vailpass 06-14-2008 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 4793849)
there is a lot of good rap out there. you just have to look in the right place, and the radio is not the place

just funnin' with ya'.

Archie Bunker 06-14-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 4793838)
no "worst rappers" list will ever be complete without the inclusion of soulja boy.

add also: MIMS, ying yang twins, and dem franchize boyz

these guys are a disgrace to hip-hop

:clap:

Pablo 06-14-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 4793885)
GUYS HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED THAT RAP RHYMES WITH CRAP

Lolz. Ya, you can't spell crap w/o rap.

OMG!!!111

Pablo 06-14-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEA_OF_RED (Post 4793471)
Bow Wow and Omarion should be high on that list. To make it worse they actually made a CD together. :Lin:

Limo Drivers > Bow Wow.

whtgldwldr 06-14-2008 05:24 PM

mystikal has to be one of the worst rappers of all time...he was worse than vanilla ice by far.

IMO if you want good rap nowadays you've gotta look at either Eminem (hell, all of aftermath label rappers), Kanye West, or Jay-Z. The rest is a rehashed dance beat with shitty lyrics randomly thrown in there.

BTW, Soulja Boy sucks monkey balls. I hope he dies, and teh government outlaws any use of the following words: YOOOOOOOOOOU, crank dat, superman/spiderman/aquaman/any other f'in superhero that ho.

SPATCH 06-14-2008 06:39 PM

there are still some lyricists out there...

little brother, jedi mind tricks, wu-tang clan, canibus, el-p, deltron 3030, etc.

Thig Lyfe 06-14-2008 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whtgldwldr (Post 4794113)

IMO if you want good rap nowadays you've gotta look at either Eminem (hell, all of aftermath label rappers), Kanye West, or Jay-Z.

Eminem and Kanye are decent... for mainstream rappers, anyway.

I prefer Mos Def and Talib Kweli.

KcMizzou 06-14-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer (Post 4794206)
Eminem and Kanye are decent... for mainstream rappers, anyway.

I prefer Mos Def and Talib Kweli.

Eminem pretty much hung it up, didn't he? Haven't heard anything new from him in a long while.

I've just recently been getting into Mos Def... very cool. I've know of him for years... but never really heard much of his stuff.

POND_OF_RED 06-14-2008 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 4794389)
Eminem pretty much hung it up, didn't he? Haven't heard anything new from him in a long while.

I've just recently been getting into Mos Def... very cool. I've know of him for years... but never really heard much of his stuff.

Eminem announced that he's been in the studio working on something that might be out by September. Dre Detox was also supposed to come out this summer but no release date has been set for either. I have a feeling Dre will release them around the same time.

Al Bundy 06-14-2008 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 4793103)
Master P's early records with "The Ghetto's trying to kill me and his first TRU album were ****ing badass. I still have them. 1992 and 1993 releases. After he got big, he sucked, but he has some classic that will forever be in my library no doubt.

Exactly, back in the day a store I worked for did an in-store with him and TRU when In-A-Minute records put the 1st 2 records out.

88TG88 06-15-2008 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 4794167)
there are still some lyricists out there...

little brother, jedi mind tricks, wu-tang clan, canibus, el-p, deltron 3030, etc.

clan is sick and el-p is good

murs, MF doom, and Glasses Malone are also pretty good underground guys

Chiefs Pantalones 06-15-2008 12:51 AM

One of the worst rappers ever is Lil' Wayne. His shit doesn't even make sense. Catchy? Yes. I admit I like some of his songs...but they make no sense whatsoever. None.

On top of that, he looks like an alien. Dude is ugly as shit.

I can't believe so many people think he's actually the best rapper today. I like rap, I listen to a lot, but I have to agree with Rain Main in that it's not that big of a deal or THAT impressive to know how to rhyme.

SPATCH 06-15-2008 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4794498)
One of the worst rappers ever is Lil' Wayne. His shit doesn't even make sense. Catchy? Yes. I admit I like some of his songs...but they make no sense whatsoever. None.

On top of that, he looks like an alien. Dude is ugly as shit.

I can't believe so many people think he's actually the best rapper today. I like rap, I listen to a lot, but I have to agree with Rain Main in that it's not that big of a deal or THAT impressive to know how to rhyme.

what gets me is that people think that he's a really clever lyricist...

i guess he seems clever when all you are used to hearing is snap 'n' pop bull shit on the radio. those guys are the worst.

lil wayne is ooooookkaaaaayyy... but people that champion him for his smart rhymes are ignorant and naive

KcMizzou 06-15-2008 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 4794501)
what gets me is that people think that he's a really clever lyricist...

i guess he seems clever when all you are used to hearing is snap 'n' pop bull shit on the radio. those guys are the worst.

lil wayne is ooooookkaaaaayyy... but people that champion him for his smart rhymes are ignorant and naive

What pisses me off, is the fact that people lump guys like him and Tupac together.

They're nowhere close. Yet, they're all rap... and all crap. :mad:

Chiefs Pantalones 06-15-2008 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 4794501)
what gets me is that people think that he's a really clever lyricist...

i guess he seems clever when all you are used to hearing is snap 'n' pop bull shit on the radio. those guys are the worst.

lil wayne is ooooookkaaaaayyy... but people that champion him for his smart rhymes are ignorant and naive

LOL I know what you're saying. No rapper or his lyrics are clever, IMO. What about talking about bitches and hos and making it rain on them in the strip club is clever? I guess asking for a rapper to make me think and "awe" me with his lyrics is asking too much in today's "it's all about the money and cars" world.

I like rap. It's fun to listen to, good beats and stuff, especially in the club. But I just don't see how anyone would claim it as being "culture." It will never be taken seriously, and it shouldn't. Especially with what rappers rap about.

Quesadilla Joe 06-15-2008 01:15 AM

This list proves Eminem is the best rapper of all time... There were so many rappers on this list Eminem just destroyed.

Marky Mark
Fred Durst
Vanilla Ice
ICP

He dissed Will Smith, Nelly, and others on the list, but he wrote entire songs about the ones above. Im surprised Benzino or Ja Rule arent on this list. He absolutely destroyed Benzino and he crushed Ja Rules record label.

kcxiv 06-15-2008 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4794509)
LOL I know what you're saying. No rapper or his lyrics are clever, IMO. What about talking about bitches and hos and making it rain on them in the strip club is clever? I guess asking for a rapper to make me think and "awe" me with his lyrics is asking too much in today's "it's all about the money and cars" world.

I like rap. It's fun to listen to, good beats and stuff, especially in the club. But I just don't see how anyone would claim it as being "culture." It will never be taken seriously, and it shouldn't. Especially with what rappers rap about.

Rap went bad at around the year 2000. First it was rapping about what their lives were about and the occasional party song. NOw its all about drinking and how many and what kind of cars they have. It took a turn for the ****ing worst.

KcMizzou 06-15-2008 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 4794515)
This list proves Eminem is the best rapper of all time... There were so many rappers on this list Eminem just destroyed.

Marky Mark
Fred Durst
Vanilla Ice
ICP

He dissed Will Smith, Nelly, and others on the list, but he wrote entire songs about the ones above. Im surprised Benzino or Ja Rule arent on this list. He absolutely destroyed Benzino and he crushed Ja Rules record label.

Em's right up there among the best, I agree. (If not THE best)

That said, what made him so great was the personal emotion he put into it. He's told his story, through music... and it was fantastic.

I'm just not sure what he has left to say.

Not that I wouldn't listen.

Chiefs Pantalones 06-15-2008 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 4794519)
Rap went bad at around the year 2000. First it was rapping about what their lives were about and the occasional party song. NOw its all about drinking and how many and what kind of cars they have. It took a turn for the ****ing worst.

Yeah if I hear one more dance rap song, like 2 step, or walk it out, or chicken noodle soup, or superman that ho, or crank that yank, or get silly, or crank that batman, or...yeah you get the point...I will GO INSANE!!! lol. It's like our intelligence is being insulted with all the repetitive bullshit!!!

Ultra Peanut 06-15-2008 02:10 AM

Are you assholes suggesting that D4L aren't the greatest entertainers to ever live?

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POND_OF_RED 06-15-2008 02:55 AM

Immortal Technique is by far my favorite artist today. He talks about some real shit. I also listen to a lot of Jurassic 5, Talib Kweli, The Game, Nas, and Atmosphere.
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RNR 06-15-2008 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4794509)
I just don't see how anyone would claim it as being "culture." It will never be taken seriously, and it shouldn't. Especially with what rappers rap about.

Spot on!

Skip Towne 06-15-2008 08:05 AM

How do you tell good rap from bad rap?

Al Bundy 06-15-2008 08:51 AM

I will take M.C. Ren and Eazy-E 1988-1992 above all listed in this thread.

RNR 06-15-2008 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight (Post 4794619)
I will take M.C. Ren and Eazy-E 1988-1992 above all listed in this thread.

Ok you can have them :)

listopencil 06-15-2008 09:50 AM

Lame ass, piece of shit, space filler article.

RNR 06-15-2008 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 4794655)
Lame ass, piece of shit, space filler article.

LMAO come on spit it out quit beating around the bush!

Thig Lyfe 06-15-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 4794601)
How do you tell good rap from bad rap?

LOLOLOLOL SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE

HIGH 5

Portlantis 06-15-2008 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4794509)
LOL I know what you're saying. No rapper or his lyrics are clever, IMO. What about talking about bitches and hos and making it rain on them in the strip club is clever? I guess asking for a rapper to make me think and "awe" me with his lyrics is asking too much in today's "it's all about the money and cars" world.

I like rap. It's fun to listen to, good beats and stuff, especially in the club. But I just don't see how anyone would claim it as being "culture." It will never be taken seriously, and it shouldn't. Especially with what rappers rap about.

No, rap can be clever. Take, for example, this track by Blackalicious:
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kcxiv 06-15-2008 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder (Post 4794530)
Yeah if I hear one more dance rap song, like 2 step, or walk it out, or chicken noodle soup, or superman that ho, or crank that yank, or get silly, or crank that batman, or...yeah you get the point...I will GO INSANE!!! lol. It's like our intelligence is being insulted with all the repetitive bullshit!!!

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This is what i am talking about. This is one of my fav rap songs. This is all about how they live in their area. I actually uploaded this song to youtube.

Wa-Z 06-15-2008 11:05 AM

is 25 spots enough?

Frosty 06-16-2008 11:27 AM

How is Deborah Harry not on this list? :shrug:

CoMoChief 06-16-2008 11:34 AM

Crazy Town - Butterfly

Come my Lady, come come my lady, you're my sugarfly, sugar ladie.....etc

Is this considered rap?

I consider that song to be Craptastic either way.

The Franchise 06-16-2008 11:39 AM

If you're looking for some good rap.....check out Atmosphere.

White rapper from Minnesota.

Alices Allstars 06-16-2008 11:58 AM

I can't give you an objective opinion about rappers, I can't make out what the phuch they are saying.

POND_OF_RED 06-16-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 4796035)
If you're looking for some good rap.....check out Atmosphere.

White rapper from Minnesota.

Atmosphere is the shit. Slug is the most talented white rapper there is. He makes eminem sound like a preschooler.

rambleonthruthefog 06-16-2008 12:47 PM

how on earth do you put nelly on this list? i mean really? i could argue a few, but nelly is a no brainer.

POND_OF_RED 06-16-2008 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog (Post 4796147)
how on earth do you put nelly on this list? i mean really? i could argue a few, but nelly is a no brainer.

Country Grammar was an alright CD but after that they all get increasingly pathetic. Then he made that song with Tim McGraw and ruined everything he had.

Carlota69 06-16-2008 12:58 PM

This list is alittle bit off...

How about Dee Dee Ramone? His attempt at rap was atrocious, at best.

Nelly? Really? Will Smith? I dont agree.

Deberg_1990 06-16-2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEA_OF_RED (Post 4796178)
Then he made that song with Tim McGraw and ruined everything he had.

Good lord, what an embarrasment for all involved.

"Well its all in my head....i think about it over and over again....."

repeat about 159 times.

Carlota69 06-16-2008 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4796187)
Good lord, what an embarrasment for all involved.

"Well its all in my head....i think about it over and over again....."

repeat about 159 times.

Yep,that song sucked. Howeer, that doesnt make him a bad rapper. He just made a bad song (actually he's made a few bad songs).

Monty 06-16-2008 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 4794519)
Rap went bad at around the year 2000. First it was rapping about what their lives were about and the occasional party song. NOw its all about drinking and how many and what kind of cars they have. It took a turn for the ****ing worst.

IMO, that turn was in 1988-89 with NWA.....hasn't been the same since. Back then we had LL Cool J, Kool Moe Dee, Young MC, etc. There were more, but that was quite a long time ago.

kcxiv 06-16-2008 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty (Post 4796255)
IMO, that turn was in 1988-89 with NWA.....hasn't been the same since. Back then we had LL Cool J, Kool Moe Dee, Young MC, etc. There were more, but that was quite a long time ago.

To tell ya the truth, i didnt like any on that list but LL Cool J, even him he only had a few good songs. Again, my opinion. I liked the "gangster rap" era. I grew up in that kind of environment. My whole family on my dad's side is pretty much gang related. I didnt grow up in Los Angeles like they did, i grew up in Central/Northern Cal and in the "hood" part of town. I pretty much have seen it all and i can relate to just about anything they "rap" about. I have had family members die due to the gang shit and alot of other things. Its just basically talking about life and how ****ed up it is becuase of where you were born and what you had to do to live. I have done some pretty shady things when i was younger, but hey, gotta do what you gotta do. Then when rap became very very mainstream. ALl they did was talk about about partying and how much cash they have. For me, thats where it went wrong.

Redrum_69 06-16-2008 01:57 PM

whodini

kris kross

POND_OF_RED 06-16-2008 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 4796247)
Yep,that song sucked. Howeer, that doesnt make him a bad rapper. He just made a bad song (actually he's made a few bad songs).

What made him a bad rapper was when he started taking shots at KRS-One. You're gonna lose a lot of fans when you take shots at a hip hop legend who's been around since you were in diapers. So cultured hip-hop fans (which the list creator probably is) can't stand the arrogant asshole, while the suburban mainstream kids made him seem like a god.


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