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Marco Polo 06-30-2008 05:50 PM

Any Car Buff's In The House? Test Driving a BMW 325i
 
I'm test driving a 2003 BMW 325i tonight through tomorrow night. I currently have a 2001 Infiniti SUV but with the gas prices soaring up, I'm thinking about making a lateral move and getting a car so I can save some gas money. I did a cost analysis over the next four years and even in the modest increase in paying off the car, I'd still save on gas and not having to buy another car for four years.

Question is this: Has anyone had a 325 before? How is the reliability? Any problems? I'm used to the $50 oil changes so that doesn't bother me, but rather the potential bigger maintenance problems? Overall, is there a recommendation on whether or not it's a good car? In the brief drive I've had it, I love the handling and performance while the interior is just "eh".

Skyy God 06-30-2008 05:51 PM

Is this the flood damaged car?

kstater 06-30-2008 05:52 PM

You spend $50 on an oil change? Why?

Skip Towne 06-30-2008 05:53 PM

It'll do if you don't have a motorcycle.

Phobia 06-30-2008 05:54 PM

The 325i? Isn't that like the Ford Focus of luxury vehicles?

Logical 06-30-2008 06:00 PM

Great car and it might get you as many chicks as an Audi and a bike.o:-)

Logical 06-30-2008 06:03 PM

By the way I think you are spending way too much on oil changes, in CA with a Jag that has to be done at the dealer (unless I want to buy special equipment) I only spend $35

Marco Polo 06-30-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 4820683)
Is this the flood damaged car?

Nope, different one. I got a Car Fax on this one and everything is perfect.

Marco Polo 06-30-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ill-Logical (Post 4820701)
Great car and it might get you as many chicks as an Audi and a bike.o:-)

Not looking to get it to get chicks but what do you know about the car?

MIAdragon 06-30-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ill-Logical (Post 4820709)
By the way I think you are spending way too much on oil changes, in CA with a Jag that has to be done at the dealer (unless I want to buy special equipment) I only spend $35


you're not using synthetic.

MIAdragon 06-30-2008 06:13 PM

The 325 is a great car, How many miles? BMW's get quite expensive to maintain.

kstater 06-30-2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 4820730)
The 325 is a great car, How many miles? BMW's get quite expensive to maintain.

Well yeah if you get suckered into a $50 oil change.

Marco Polo 06-30-2008 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 4820730)
The 325 is a great car, How many miles? BMW's get quite expensive to maintain.

It has 60k miles and it's a 2003.

SBK 06-30-2008 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 4820735)
It has 60k miles and it's a 2003.

I had a 2005 325 and it was the best car I ever owned. BMW has a warranty that you can buy that would cover all repairs to 100k miles and all routine maintenance just as far. Then you wouldn't have to pay for anything.

I can't recommend this car enough, they are awesome, run forever and are a blast to drive.

Marco Polo 06-30-2008 06:21 PM

Another thing that concerns me is that it is rear wheel drive and I live in KC. I'm guessing I'd have to put about 300 lbs of packaged sand (weight) in the trunk to help in the winter. Does anyone have experience of a RWD car in the winter?

SBK 06-30-2008 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 4820748)
Another thing that concerns me is that it is rear wheel drive and I live in KC. I'm guessing I'd have to put about 300 lbs of packaged sand (weight) in the trunk to help in the winter. Does anyone have experience of a RWD car in the winter?

No you won't, there's electronic gizmos today that old skool cars didn't have.

Buzzsaw 06-30-2008 06:43 PM

I bought one for my wife last year, it's a 2002 though. I LOVE driving it, it's truly awesome, a real drivers car. I'd trade her my loaded Chevy truck for the bimmer in a heartbeat. I could tell you about all the extra built-in goodies but that would be one long post.

And the cheapest oil changes I've found have been just over $100....

Marco Polo 06-30-2008 07:14 PM

This post has been encouraging. I really like my current car but I'm tired of the gas prices.

SBK 06-30-2008 07:28 PM

Oh, I forgot to add that you only need to change the oil every 15,000 miles, the car actually tells you when. Even if they're more money you only have to do 1 compared to most cars needing 5.

rageeumr 06-30-2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 4820748)
Another thing that concerns me is that it is rear wheel drive and I live in KC. I'm guessing I'd have to put about 300 lbs of packaged sand (weight) in the trunk to help in the winter. Does anyone have experience of a RWD car in the winter?

I had a Firebird a few years back. It had traction control, and did surprisingly well in snow. I'd say there was 1-2 days each winter when I just couldn't go out, though. Mostly for fear that I'd get stopped on an incline and not be able to get going again.

Marco Polo 06-30-2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SBK (Post 4820919)
Oh, I forgot to add that you only need to change the oil every 15,000 miles, the car actually tells you when. Even if they're more money you only have to do 1 compared to most cars needing 5.

Did you always fill it up with premium?

Simply Red 06-30-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 4820681)
I'm test driving a 2003 BMW 325i tonight through tomorrow night. I currently have a 2001 Infiniti SUV but with the gas prices soaring up, I'm thinking about making a lateral move and getting a car so I can save some gas money. I did a cost analysis over the next four years and even in the modest increase in paying off the car, I'd still save on gas and not having to buy another car for four years.

Question is this: Has anyone had a 325 before? How is the reliability? Any problems? I'm used to the $50 oil changes so that doesn't bother me, but rather the potential bigger maintenance problems? Overall, is there a recommendation on whether or not it's a good car? In the brief drive I've had it, I love the handling and performance while the interior is just "eh".

I had a QX-4, QX-56, Q-45, FX-35. A 03 S-500 and an 05 Audi a-4.

BMW's are fine. My `Ex,` had an O2 325I, I drove it often. It was nice.

Marco Polo 06-30-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 4821085)
I had a QX-4, QX-56, Q-45, FX-35. A 03 S-500 and an 05 Audi a-4.

BMW's are fine. My `Ex,` had an O2 325I, I drove it often. It was nice.

Thanks, Red. I currently have a QX4

SBK 06-30-2008 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 4821046)
Did you always fill it up with premium?

Yes.

RustShack 06-30-2008 09:12 PM

I have a Trans Am with an LT1 in it and its rear wheel, I live in Iowa and drive in the winter... no wrecks yet. I don't add any sand bags or anything either, I just don't drive like a dumb ass.

stlchiefs 06-30-2008 09:17 PM

BMW 3 Series Consumer Reports info on a 2003 325i:

Better, Good, Neutral, Bad, Worse

Engine Major: Better
Engine Minor: Neutral
Engine Cooling: Neutral
Transmission Major: Good
Transmission Minor: Good
Drive System: Good
Fuel System: Neutral
Electrical System: Worse
Climate System: Bad
Suspension: Good
Brakes: Good
Exhaust: Better
Paint/Trim: Neutral
Squeaks & Rattles: Good
Body Hardware: Bad
Power Equip.: Bad
Audio System: Good

Used Car Verdict: Neutral

BigMeatballDave 07-01-2008 03:17 AM

$50 oil change? WTF? I use synthetic(Mobil1)in my car. $22 for a 5 qt. container at Walmart. I do it myself.

Dartgod 07-01-2008 07:13 AM

"I'd love to be a car buff. ... What do you have to do to be a buff?

StcChief 07-01-2008 07:15 AM

If your looking at a 325i consider the Infiniti G35x or other 4wd sedans for winter conditions.

Radar Chief 07-01-2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 4820686)
It'll do if you don't have a motorcycle.

Preach on Brother Skip. :thumb:

Radar Chief 07-01-2008 09:44 AM

One of Mrs. Radar’s friends has a 325i convertible that she’s been driving for several years. Only problem I know of is when a bearing went out in her rear end.
She wouldn’t let on, but I’m sure it was painful. ;)

StcChief 07-01-2008 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 4822228)
One of Mrs. Radar’s friends has a 325i convertible that she’s been driving for several years. Only problem I know of is when a bearing went out in her rear end.
She wouldn’t let on, but I’m sure it was painful. ;)

as the saying goes.... if you have to ask about maintenance costs for German cars.
ie. Mercedes, BMW, Porche, Audi .... you can't afford it.

ToxSocks 07-01-2008 09:58 AM

Honestly, standard maintenance costs on a BMW is just as much as any other new car, its when you break something big is when it gets expensive. But, the same can be said about most new cars. As far as oil changes go, a BMW is no more than any other damn car, its only oil and a filter. If your paying $50 for an oil change, you are NOT getting ripped off. Whom ever is paying less is just getting a killer deal or doing it themsleves. If you're putting synthetic into your car, its not cheap. You figure roughly $5 a QT for full syn, x6 qts, which is what most 6cyl or larger engines need, you've already spent $30 in just oil. Add the cost of the filter and the mechanic, and you'll see that $50 isn't that bad of a deal.

ToxSocks 07-01-2008 10:00 AM

and if you break something, let me know. I work right next to a BMW/Porsche dismantler, i drive passed wrecked BMW's every day when i come to work, and i may be able to get you a good deal.

BigMeatballDave 07-01-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Jesus (Post 4822253)
If your paying $50 for an oil change, you are NOT getting ripped off. Whom ever is paying less is just getting a killer deal or doing it themsleves. If you're putting synthetic into your car, its not cheap. You figure roughly $5 a QT for full syn, x6 qts, which is what most 6cyl or larger engines need, you've already spent $30 in just oil. Add the cost of the filter and the mechanic, and you'll see that $50 isn't that bad of a deal.

My car has a v6 and it takes 5 qts. As I already mentioned in this thread, I buy the 5qt. Mobil 1 container from Walmart for $22 and do it myself. Yes, if one should feel the need to take it up the arse, they can go to a quick lube and get a synthetic oil change for $50+.

chasedude 07-01-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 4821992)
"I'd love to be a car buff. ... What do you have to do to be a buff?

So Biff wants to be a buff huh?
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:.../02/george.jpg

ToxSocks 07-01-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 4822265)
My car has a v6 and it takes 5 qts. As I already mentioned in this thread, I buy the 5qt. Mobil 1 container from Walmart for $22 and do it myself. Yes, if one should feel the need to take it up the arse, they can go to a quick lube and get a synthetic oil change for $50+.


Please keep in mind that, while its great you do it yourself, not everyone can or wants to do it themselves. So, for a shop to do it, $50 is not that bad for a full syn, and a lot of cars take more than 5Qts. My 5.0 Firebird takes 8qts. His Infiniti probably takes more than 5Qts as well. Though i wouldnt be surprised if the local Pep boys only puts 5Qts in his engine, since that seems to be the industry standard.

HemiEd 07-01-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 4821992)
"I'd love to be a car buff. ... What do you have to do to be a buff?

Hang out with Biff?

StcChief 07-01-2008 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Jesus (Post 4822257)
and if you break something, let me know. I work right next to a BMW/Porsche dismantler, i drive passed wrecked BMW's every day when i come to work, and i may be able to get you a good deal.

and the smart German car owners know this.... those places are full all the time. for parts/repair.

Marco Polo 07-01-2008 11:24 AM

The rear wheel drive at winter time is really scaring me off so I think I may pass on it. If it was a xi instead of a i it'd be different. Thanks for everyone's input. I really appreciate it!

ToxSocks 07-01-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 4822429)
and the smart German car owners know this.... those places are full all the time. for parts/repair.

Yep, the place is dirty and unkept, but busy all of the time.

vailpass 07-01-2008 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Jesus (Post 4822337)
Please keep in mind that, while its great you do it yourself, not everyone can or wants to do it themselves. So, for a shop to do it, $50 is not that bad for a full syn, and a lot of cars take more than 5Qts. My 5.0 Firebird takes 8qts. His Infiniti probably takes more than 5Qts as well. Though i wouldnt be surprised if the local Pep boys only puts 5Qts in his engine, since that seems to be the industry standard.

My Volvo shop does oil & filter on my XC70 for $29.00. Don't know what this $50 oil change you seem to love so much is but you don't need to pay that at least not in Phoenix.

ferrarispider95 07-01-2008 11:59 AM

What are they asking?

HemiEd 07-01-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4822575)
My Volvo shop does oil & filter on my XC70 for $29.00. Don't know what this $50 oil change you seem to love so much is but you don't need to pay that at least not in Phoenix.

Vail, I doubt you are getting synthetic for $29. I pay that much to change it myself, with synthetic.

Radar Chief 07-01-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 4822587)
Vail, I doubt you are getting synthetic for $29. I pay that much to change it myself, with synthetic.

Probably filling his motor with Valvoline. ;)

ToxSocks 07-01-2008 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 4822575)
My Volvo shop does oil & filter on my XC70 for $29.00. Don't know what this $50 oil change you seem to love so much is but you don't need to pay that at least not in Phoenix.

The Cost of Synthetic Oil is generally around $25-30 for 5 or 6 Qts, so they may be giving you regular oil. In San Diego, typical oil changes are about $35. When you start adding synthetic oil, special filters etc it goes up.

HemiEd 07-01-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 4822653)
Probably filling his motor with Valvoline. ;)

:p


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