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Deberg_1990 08-18-2008 11:00 AM

14 years in the making: Guns N' Roses in talks for exclusive album release
 
So will this thing ever come out??

http://www.reuters.com/article/enter...rpc=22&sp=true

By Ed Christman

NEW YORK (Billboard) - The June leak of nine allegedly "mastered, finished" tracks from Guns N' Roses' long-delayed "Chinese Democracy" spurred a renewed round of speculation about whether the Axl Rose-led band will finally release the 14-years-in-the-making album.

But some concrete signs are finally emerging that the album's release could be imminent. That's because, according to sources, negotiations are under way for "Chinese Democracy" to come out as an exclusive at one of the big-box retailers -- either Wal-Mart or Best Buy.

Negotiations are also ongoing for conventional record company distribution, another source said.

Guns N' Roses is now managed by Irving Azoff's Front Line Management, and Azoff is a well-known proponent of issuing albums exclusively through retailers. He released the Eagles' "Long Road Out of Eden" through Wal-Mart, much to the chagrin of other merchants.

It's unclear who initiated the Guns N' Roses exclusive negotiations -- Front Line or Interscope, the band's label.

Representatives at Front Line and Interscope with knowledge of the situation couldn't be reached for comment. A Wal-Mart representative said the chain couldn't confirm this fall's exclusive album offerings. Best Buy representatives couldn't be reached for comment.

Reuters/Billboard

Rausch 08-18-2008 11:11 AM

I hear rumors of this every now and again and from all I've read it's a friggen HORRIBLE album...

beach tribe 08-18-2008 11:15 AM

I can't believe Axl calls this shit GnR. I don't.

Deberg_1990 08-18-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 4924076)
I can't believe Axl calls this shit GnR. I don't.


The name Guns N Roses = $$$$$

Axl Rose + "Insert random band name here" = HUH????


IM with Rausch on this. Most likely the stuff is horrible. If the songs were truly any good, they would have found a way to release this years ago.

JimNasium 08-18-2008 11:21 AM

There are few things more pathetic than heroin junkies. Success didn't change them, it just allowed Axl to become a well-to-do junkie.

Rausch 08-18-2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimNasium (Post 4924087)
There are few things more pathetic than heroin junkies.

If a list of "$3it not to do" was handed down by God instead of the Ten Commandments I'm thinking heroin addict is an easy lock for top 3...

JimNasium 08-18-2008 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 4924089)
If a list of "$3it not to do" was handed down by God instead of the Ten Commandments I'm thinking heroin addict is an easy lock for top 3...

True dat. I may be mistaken about Rose. He might just suffer from psychosis...the rest might be the heroin addicts.

mikeboogie 08-18-2008 11:41 AM

I agree it will probably be horrible but I will buy it.

It is kind of like watching the Chiefs this year.

It is going to be a train wreck but I will watch every chance I get.

Demonpenz 08-18-2008 11:43 AM

the brett favre of rock bands

Deberg_1990 08-18-2008 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 4924119)
the brett favre of rock bands

What does that mean??

alpha_omega 08-18-2008 11:55 AM

No Slash...no thanks.

Jawshco 08-18-2008 12:15 PM

I've heard most of the leaks of this album. And while I wouldn't call it horrible, it's not great either. To me it seems like the music is good, but the overall composition is where the songs are lacking. There's just no direction to it at all which makes it a little more boring, less catchy and bit complex to take in. Now, I like complicated music that doesn't perscribe to normal song structures, but even so these demos were all dragging along for me.

Now, as far as guitar is concerned- Buckethead is very impressive on the recordings. I'm not sure if he's the only guitarist, but what I've heard is every bit as good as anything I've ever heard from Slash- if not better. The Band flat out rocks. I'm not in love the synth and some of the beats that are used, but the band is certainly up to par with old GnR. And Axel's voice sounds decent.

The song Chinese Democracy is actually okay. It could be a single. Though nowhere near as good as the classic GnR hits. Probably a good comparision would be the difference between Pearl Jams monster hits from 10 (like Even Flow) and the meager singles from their new album (like World Wide Suicide, which I actaully do like.).

Now, the actual album may end up being better than the leaks. I've not heard them all together, and I've never heard "Shackler's Revenge" which will debut on the game Rock Band 2. I've heard that song will be the big single. So maybe there's hope. I've got my fingers crossed.

HypnotizedMonkey 08-18-2008 12:25 PM

Shannon Hoon is dead.

Pneuma 08-18-2008 12:35 PM

A handful of the released tracks were solid. Some were not so good...

DaneMcCloud 08-18-2008 12:38 PM

As I've mentioned before, there are more than 113 songs currently recorded for Chinese Democracy. Everything from classic G'N'R to NIN type techno-rock. Which songs they'll choose for the final release is anyone's guess.

And while the songs may not be "great", the players most certainly are top notch. Josh Freese, Troy Van Leeuwen, Billy Howerdel, Buckethead, John 5, Paz Lenchantin, Richard Fortus, Chris Pittman and on and on and on.

Pitt Gorilla 08-18-2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 4924341)
As I've mentioned before, there are more than 113 songs currently recorded for Chinese Democracy. Everything from classic G'N'R to NIN type techno-rock. Which songs they'll choose for the final release is anyone's guess.

And while the songs may not be "great", the players most certainly are top notch. Josh Freese, Troy Van Leeuwen, Billy Howerdel, Buckethead, John 5, Paz Lenchantin, Richard Fortus, Chris Pittman and on and on and on.

That may be true, but it doesn't appear that most of those guys are "in" the band.

DaneMcCloud 08-18-2008 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 4924356)
That may be true, but it doesn't appear that most of those guys are "in" the band.

That doesn't matter.

All that matters is the recording.

There are so many "band" members throughout the history of recorded music that never actually played on their group's albums. A mindblowing number.

All people care about is if the record's good or bad. The "live" band won't be around in 20 years. But the recording will.

Demonpenz 08-18-2008 12:46 PM

It's no alterbridge

Nzoner 08-18-2008 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 4924169)
No Slash...no thanks.

Just no thanks for me

Reerun_KC 08-18-2008 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 4924371)
Just no thanks for me

Yeah will have to agree with you on this one...

J Diddy 08-18-2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 4924371)
Just no thanks for me

yep fug em

Bowser 08-18-2008 12:59 PM

My give-a-fuck for this band died years ago.

Bowser 08-18-2008 12:59 PM

I will only buy this if it's better than "Saints of Los Angeles". lol

Deberg_1990 08-18-2008 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4924405)
I will only buy this if it's better than "Saints of Los Angeles". lol

I take it that CD isnt very good? I like the title song, but havent heard anything else.

teedubya 08-18-2008 01:56 PM

I bet KCMizzou is rolling in his grave right now.

Demonpenz 08-18-2008 01:58 PM

I once saw Kc mizzoui and had use your illusion T shirt, then under that shirt he had a use your illusion PII

B_Ambuehl 08-18-2008 02:31 PM

The album is f'in bad-ass IMO

Here's some samples:

Better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK1JyPvHnBY

Chinese Democracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqxRx5srLDY

Catcher in The Rye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHskgl2B730

The Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzXx4...eature=related

IRS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mE5f...eature=related

They are demos but I reckon all of those should be hits and at least 2 should be freaking epic. That's not including Shacklers Revenge which is coming out on the Rockstar game.


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