|
Excellent article for the anti-Croyle crowd.
(https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=190031)
Excellent article for the anti-Croyle crowd.
It makes some good points and gives insight to why we have so many chicken littles on this board.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...leinart/1.html |
Yes, Trent Dilfer is a shining example of the best QB ever...... BLAH
|
Quote:
meaning we are afraid that Croyle could turn into Trent Dilfer? |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
"If you get to start your career with a couple years on the bench before you have to play, like a Tony Romo or a Steve McNair or a Chad Pennington, then you can judge them quickly when they get their chance to play. But to be thrown in the fire as a rookie quarterback in this league, and be judged on just your body of work for your first 16 games or so, that's ludicrous.''
Croyle falls between Pennington and McNair. |
Croyle deserves the whole year (seriously doubt he makes it though 16 games anyways)
But if this team only wins 1-3 games, how could you not want to draft a QB next year?? |
Bash Dilfer if you want, but he's been to the probowl, and won a SB.
|
I don't have a good feeling about Croyle or any of our other QB's. I do think Croyle needs more time to prove to me he that sucks though.
|
Even Lenny Dawson got bounced around before finally developing for us.
|
Quote:
Are we losing games by less than 7 points every week? Is the defense giving up 24+ PPG? Does Croyle (and the rest of the offense) improve on a week-to-week basis? IMO, it's not as cut and dried as saying, "well, we went 3-13, it MUST be all Croyle's fault." This is going to be a bad TEAM. Regardless of record, or a player's position, you should be looking for progression from week-to-week, not regression. Those who progress, should be assured a spot in 2009. Those that don't? Well, bye. |
Payton Manning
1999 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 331 533 62.1 4,135 7.8 26 15 14 116 90.7 35 73 2.1 2 6 3 1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 326 575 56.7 3,739 6.5 26 28 22 109 71.2 15 62 4.1 0 3 1 Brodie Croyle 2008 ??????????????????????? 2007 Kansas City Chiefs 9 6 127 224 56.7 1,227 5.5 6 6 17 101 69.9 7 18 2.6 0 4 3 |
Is 2800 yards.......60% completions......and more TD's than Interceptions to much to ask of Croyle?
|
He deserves the full season for evaluation (health permitting). But I have not liked what I've seen so far this preseason. Protection issues and dropped balls aside, Brodie has twice missed wide-open receivers when he's had decent-to-good protection. With all the other problems we have, he CANNOT miss those rare opportunities to score when everything has lined up perfectly.
|
Quote:
The numbers are a lot closer than people give credit for. Same completion percentage. Almost the same passer rating. Peyton had a 1 yard advantage in yards per attempt. Based on the averages, had Croyle attempted the 575 passes that Manning did, he would have thrown for 3162.5 yards. The big difference is in TD's. Manning threw a TD pass every 22 attempts, while Croyle threw a TD every 37 attempts. Again based on an equal amount of attempts, Croyle would project at 15TD/15INT. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
PTD INT RTD FM LST 1999 Indianapolis Colts 26 15 2 6 3 1998 Indianapolis Colts 26 28 0 3 1 Brodie Croyle 2008 ??????????????????????? 2007 Kansas City Chiefs 6 6 0 4 3 |
Quote:
|
With this coaching staff you need mad game before you get off the bus.
When was the last time the Chief's took an average player and coached in up to pro bowl caliber? |
Quote:
I'm just sayin' |
Quote:
|
I stopped reading sometime after Trent Dilfer...
Career 70.2 QB Rating. 113 Career TD's, 129 Career INT's. Yeah, we've got a lot to look forward to... I'm really tired of hearing excuses for Brodie Croyle. Some fans are holding out all hope that what we've seen (or haven't) is simply too small a sample size to evaluate. Croyle in only six games hasn't had ample opportunity to have shown us all something. Really? Here's the first six-game stretch for 16 current NFL starting QB's. Chad Pennington, 10 TD's 3 INT's Game 1, 108.0 QB Rating Game 2, 124.7 QB Rating Game 3, 101.9 QB Rating Game 4, 102.6 QB Rating Game 6, 126.9 QB Rating Brett Favre, 6 TD's 5 INT's Game 1, 144.6 QB Rating Game 2, 90.8 QB Rating Game 5, 93.5 QB Rating Tom Brady, 10 TD's 4 INT's Game 3, 93.4 QB Rating Game 4, 148.3 QB Rating Game 6, 124.4 QB Rating Ben Roethlisberger, 9 TD's 3 INT's Game 2, 101.1 QB Rating Game 3, 107.4 QB Rating Game 4, 125.5 QB Rating Game 5, 126.4 QB Rating Game 6, 109.3 QB Rating Derek Anderson, 12 TD's 12 INT's Game 5, 121.0 QB Rating Matt Schaub, 8 TD's 5 INT's Game 2, 112.1 QB Rating Game 3, 101.5 QB Rating Game 4, 119.2 QB Rating Game 6, 101.8 QB Rating David Garrard, 5 TD's 2 INT's Game 2, 87.5 QB Rating Game 5, 103.3 QB Rating Philip Rivers, 9 TD's 3 INT's Game 1, 133.9 QB Rating Game 2, 99.1 QB Rating Game 4, 90.1 QB Rating Game 5, 116.8 QB Rating Jay Cutler, 10 TD's 6 INT's Game 2, 97.6 QB Rating Game 3, 101.7 QB Rating Game 4, 88.9 QB Rating Jason Campbell, 8 TD's 5 INT's Game 1, 92.3 QB Rating Donovan McNabb, 8 TD's 7 INT's Game 3, 99.1 QB Rating Tony Romo, 10 TD's 4 INT's Game 2, 109.0 QB Rating Game 3, 126.8 QB Rating Game 4, 89.5 QB Rating Game 5, 148.9 QB Rating Drew Brees, 7 TD's 6 INT's Game 1, 136.8 QB Rating Game 4, 91.0 QB Rating Game 6, 87.3 QB Rating Jeff Garcia, 6 TD's 6 INT's Game 1, 106.0 QB Rating Game 6, 107.3 QB Rating Marc Bulger, 14 TD's 6 INT's Game 1, 134.1 QB Rating Game 3, 89.0 QB Rating Game 4, 131.7 QB Rating Game 5, 100.5 QB Rating Matt Leinart, 6 TD's 6 INT's Game 1, 91.7 QB Rating Game 2, 88.6 QB Rating Game 4, 101.7 QB Rating |
Quote:
Well, I hope our sorry line can give him the protection he needs, so we can find out one way or the other. |
Quote:
Peyton Manning was the #1 overall pick. The Colts had no choice, but to be patient with him. Or are you telling me we should be as patient with a Third Round pick as the Colts were with the first draftpick taken? Peyton's first 6 games were rather uneventful, but after he broke a single-season record for TD's thrown by a Rookie QB... The Colts knew they had a future with him at the helm. |
Quote:
|
Not to mention that Croyle did have a 99.2 QB rating in his first game :p
|
Quote:
|
Sheesh. The QB is certainly among the most important positions, but they need to have some help from the rest of the team. QB can't do it all by themselves.
|
JFC people!!!
Walter Payton Peyton Manning :cuss: |
| All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:27 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.