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chefsos 09-18-2008 08:51 PM

AJC: "It's going to be 3 guys, John." -Love, Herm
 
Falcons’ Abraham ready for Chiefs’ blockers
Falcons defensive end expects Kansas City will stack line against him
By D. ORLANDO LEDBETTER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thursday, September 18, 2008


Flowery Branch — Falcons defensive end John Abraham knows what awaits him Sunday, and he’s not too happy about it.

Abraham, who leads the NFL in sacks and has four of the Falcons’ five, knows that his former head coach Herm Edwards is going to send a lot of blockers his way when the Falcons play host to the Kansas City Chiefs at 1 p.m. at the Georgia Dome.

“I’ve been around Herm, so I know he’s not going to be like, ‘Hey, let John wild out today.’ I know it’s not going to be anything like that. So I’m not the happiest guy right now.”

Against the Chiefs, Abraham will face rookie left tackle Branden Albert, the 19th pick in the 2008 draft.

“He’s young, and you automatically get happy when you hear stuff like that,” Abraham said. “I mean Herm is not a spring chicken. He’s going to know that he’s going to need a tight end over there, somebody to chip. I know he’s not going to let me have one-on-one all day with the kid.”

When asked if Abraham, who played for Edwards from 2001-05 with the New York Jets, would be left one-on-one with Albert, Edwards started laughing.

“Tell John he’s not getting a free rush at the quarterback,” Edwards said. “Tell him don’t even worry about it. Tell him it’s going to be three guys blocking him, so don’t even worry about it.”

The Falcons are moving a lot of players around on the defensive line.

Against Tampa Bay, Grady Jackson’s knee swelled, and Jason Jefferson got the start at tackle.

Kroy Biermann, a rookie defensive end, played about 20 snaps at left end while Jamaal Anderson moved inside to tackle.

“Kroy has done a very nice job,” Falcons coach Mike Smith said. “I think he’s got a very good understanding of what we are trying to do schematically.”

The Falcons are looking at other players to help generate pressure on opposing quarterbacks, such as Biermann getting a shot to develop into a designated pass rusher.

“He has a knack for rushing the passer,” Smith said. “He’s very tenacious in the way that he plays.”

Abraham, who had 10 of the Falcons’ 25 sacks last season, thinks help is on the way, and he cited the play of defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux.

Babineaux, who has the Falcons’ other sack, got good penetration against the Buccaneers and had three tackles for loss.

“I think we are progressing and getting better as a unit,” Abraham said. “Babs had a great game against Tampa, and I guess we need him to progress; he needs to keep doing the same thing he was doing last week.”

The Falcons definitely want other linemen to help Abraham out.

“We’re all working hard at it,” Smith said. “Sometimes you work hard and you get the sacks. Sometimes they just come to you.”

Anderson is playing more defensive tackle, but he still has not registered a sack in 18 NFL games.

“I thought he was very active in this last game,” Smith said. “I think he had six official hits in that game. He’s continued to improve.”

Anderson has been productive when playing inside.

“He’s pushed the pocket when he’s been inside as a pass rusher,” Smith said. “I think he is improving. He’s getting better and better. I think it’s just a matter of time when he gets the opportunity to get his first sack.”

Meanwhile, the Falcons don’t plan to let the Chiefs take Abraham out of the pass rush.

“There are different ways that you can do it,” Smith said. “But I really don’t want to talk about it. But there are ways to try to combat it.”

http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/s...am_chiefs.html

L.A. Chieffan 09-18-2008 08:52 PM

Abraham just has to line up on the other side and then ****ing tee off. I hope Thigpen has all his affairs in order

StcChief 09-18-2008 09:01 PM

could be very ugly (again) Sunday....

Mecca 09-18-2008 09:03 PM

I have Michael Turner on my fantasy team so score!

Hammock Parties 09-18-2008 09:06 PM

Here comes the R2P2!

BIG K 09-18-2008 09:11 PM

It's going to be quite humbling when the Chiefs put three guys on JA and he still sacks pigpin on a running play....You can put that prediction down in writing...

SBK 09-18-2008 09:21 PM

I picked up the "stout" Falcons D for my fantasy league. They'll be good for multiple sacks, low points, a few picks, maybe I'll get lucky and get a pick 6 out of the deal....

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-18-2008 09:32 PM

Abraham is and always has been overrated. If Albert is healthy, I'm not too worried about him being able to handle him.

Lonewolf Ed 09-18-2008 09:52 PM

The Falcons would be wise to blitz whenever Larry Johnson is on the field on second downs.

PastorMikH 09-18-2008 09:53 PM

Albert against a goot pass-rushing DE or McIntosh against a scrub


I'm thinking McIntosh needs the TE help more than Albert.

FAX 09-18-2008 10:08 PM

“He’s very tenacious in the way that he plays.”

You know, that's the key to being a great pass rusher, right there. That's what we were told that Hali had - a non-stop motor. I hope that, someday soon, we'll start seeing that quality in his play.

FAX

Simply Red 09-18-2008 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chefsos (Post 5033074)
Falcons’ Abraham ready for Chiefs’ blockers
Falcons defensive end expects Kansas City will stack line against him
By D. ORLANDO LEDBETTER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Thursday, September 18, 2008


Flowery Branch — Falcons defensive end John Abraham knows what awaits him Sunday, and he’s not too happy about it.

Abraham, who leads the NFL in sacks and has four of the Falcons’ five, knows that his former head coach Herm Edwards is going to send a lot of blockers his way when the Falcons play host to the Kansas City Chiefs at 1 p.m. at the Georgia Dome.

“I’ve been around Herm, so I know he’s not going to be like, ‘Hey, let John wild out today.’ I know it’s not going to be anything like that. So I’m not the happiest guy right now.”

Against the Chiefs, Abraham will face rookie left tackle Branden Albert, the 19th pick in the 2008 draft.

“He’s young, and you automatically get happy when you hear stuff like that,” Abraham said. “I mean Herm is not a spring chicken. He’s going to know that he’s going to need a tight end over there, somebody to chip. I know he’s not going to let me have one-on-one all day with the kid.”

When asked if Abraham, who played for Edwards from 2001-05 with the New York Jets, would be left one-on-one with Albert, Edwards started laughing.

“Tell John he’s not getting a free rush at the quarterback,” Edwards said. “Tell him don’t even worry about it. Tell him it’s going to be three guys blocking him, so don’t even worry about it.”

The Falcons are moving a lot of players around on the defensive line.

Against Tampa Bay, Grady Jackson’s knee swelled, and Jason Jefferson got the start at tackle.

Kroy Biermann, a rookie defensive end, played about 20 snaps at left end while Jamaal Anderson moved inside to tackle.

“Kroy has done a very nice job,” Falcons coach Mike Smith said. “I think he’s got a very good understanding of what we are trying to do schematically.”

The Falcons are looking at other players to help generate pressure on opposing quarterbacks, such as Biermann getting a shot to develop into a designated pass rusher.

“He has a knack for rushing the passer,” Smith said. “He’s very tenacious in the way that he plays.”

Abraham, who had 10 of the Falcons’ 25 sacks last season, thinks help is on the way, and he cited the play of defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux.

Babineaux, who has the Falcons’ other sack, got good penetration against the Buccaneers and had three tackles for loss.

“I think we are progressing and getting better as a unit,” Abraham said. “Babs had a great game against Tampa, and I guess we need him to progress; he needs to keep doing the same thing he was doing last week.”

The Falcons definitely want other linemen to help Abraham out.

“We’re all working hard at it,” Smith said. “Sometimes you work hard and you get the sacks. Sometimes they just come to you.”

Anderson is playing more defensive tackle, but he still has not registered a sack in 18 NFL games.

“I thought he was very active in this last game,” Smith said. “I think he had six official hits in that game. He’s continued to improve.”

Anderson has been productive when playing inside.

“He’s pushed the pocket when he’s been inside as a pass rusher,” Smith said. “I think he is improving. He’s getting better and better. I think it’s just a matter of time when he gets the opportunity to get his first sack.”

Meanwhile, the Falcons don’t plan to let the Chiefs take Abraham out of the pass rush.

“There are different ways that you can do it,” Smith said. “But I really don’t want to talk about it. But there are ways to try to combat it.”

http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/s...am_chiefs.html

Don't care, once again, I just wanted to let you know your avatar is the best avatar on both planets.

Buehler445 09-18-2008 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 5033214)
Albert against a goot pass-rushing DE or McIntosh against a scrub


I'm thinking McIntosh needs the TE help more than Albert.

QFT. You could line my slow ass up next to McInvag and it would still apply.

BIG K 09-18-2008 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf Ed (Post 5033210)
The Falcons would be wise to blitz whenever Larry Johnson is on the field on second downs.


Umm yeah, that would work if they plan on doing a run blitz on second down because everyone knows the Chief's will only run on first and second down. Third down is an easy incompletion pass....Honestly, teams should forgoe the 10 man fronts on 1st and 2nd down and put 11 in the box. Everyone knows they are running.......The Chief's only conduct forward passes out of desperation...

irishjayhawk 09-18-2008 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5033102)
I have Michael Turner on my fantasy team so score!

I predict Bernard Pollard again. And then my Norwood pick looks genius.

;)

chiefs1111 09-18-2008 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5033102)
I have Michael Turner on my fantasy team so score!

I also having him starting for me this week on one of my teams.....

Katie 09-19-2008 12:20 AM

It's a sad day when Chiefsplanet is reduced to rooting for fantasy players on the opposing team...I, personally, hope you all lose points

KcFanInGA 09-19-2008 12:25 AM

Stay strong chiefs fans. Our time is coming...Herm shall fall

Tribal Warfare 09-19-2008 12:37 AM

Albert was the 15th pick overall D. Orlando Ledbetter

SBK 09-19-2008 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcFanInGA (Post 5033681)
Stay strong chiefs fans. Our time is coming...Herm shall fall

We got another Chiefs fan from here in Georgia, welcome. Those of us that live in America's greatest city ROFL welcome you!

Mecca 09-19-2008 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie (Post 5033676)
It's a sad day when Chiefsplanet is reduced to rooting for fantasy players on the opposing team...I, personally, hope you all lose points

Hey that's harsh, we just all realize Turner is an excellent start this week.

Micjones 09-19-2008 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5033102)
I have Michael Turner on my fantasy team so score!

After what we saw last week Michael Turner could break the single-game rushing record. Lucky bastard!!!

I'm still trying to identify a third RB on my fantasy squad.

ottawa_chiefs_fan 09-19-2008 04:50 AM

They should have 10 players block him - then he would never get a sack - that's a victory of sorts, right?

Lzen 09-19-2008 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5033102)
I have Michael Turner on my fantasy team so score!


See, this is what is wrong with fantasy football. A Chiefs fan (heh, if you actually are a Chiefs fan), rooting for a player on the opponent's team. :shake:

penguinz 09-19-2008 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5033745)
After what we saw last week Michael Turner could break the single-game rushing record. Lucky bastard!!!

I'm still trying to identify a third RB on my fantasy squad.

Turner's backup?

Mecca 09-19-2008 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5034007)
See, this is what is wrong with fantasy football. A Chiefs fan (heh, if you actually are a Chiefs fan), rooting for a player on the opponent's team. :shake:

Oh cmon it's a tongue in cheek post although I really do have Turner on my fantasy team.

Isn't it better to lose anyway, we're on a quest for the number 1 pick let's not **** it up.

Warrior5 09-19-2008 07:49 AM

Hopefully Mike Cox can help neutralize Abraham...

Mecca 09-19-2008 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warrior5 (Post 5034066)
Hopefully Mike Cox can help neutralize Abraham...

Your cock is going to do what to Abraham?

Chief Faithful 09-19-2008 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcFanInGA (Post 5033681)
Stay strong chiefs fans. Our time is coming...Herm shall fall

You going to the game?

ShortRoundChief 09-19-2008 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5034089)
Your cock is going to do what to Abraham?


ROFL

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-19-2008 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5033159)
Abraham is and always has been overrated. If Albert is healthy, I'm not too worried about him being able to handle him.

Yeah. His 4 sacks are overrated too!

Chief Faithful 09-19-2008 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5033159)
Abraham is and always has been overrated. If Albert is healthy, I'm not too worried about him being able to handle him.

He is the most athletic DE in the NFL. When healthy the guy is a major force. The problem is the last 3 years he has had injury problems, but right now the guy is healthy and forcing teams to give him special attention.

I'm excited to see what the rookie can do.

Mecca 09-19-2008 08:46 AM

There is way to much talk of cocks and sacks in this thread.....what kinda game is this gonna be?

HemiEd 09-19-2008 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5033267)
“He’s very tenacious in the way that he plays.”

You know, that's the key to being a great pass rusher, right there. That's what we were told that Hali had - a non-stop motor. I hope that, someday soon, we'll start seeing that quality in his play.

FAX

I agree, he will be a stud someday though, Herm drafted him.

HemiEd 09-19-2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG K (Post 5033319)
Umm yeah, that would work if they plan on doing a run blitz on second down because everyone knows the Chief's will only run on first and second down. Third down is an easy incompletion pass....Honestly, teams should forgoe the 10 man fronts on 1st and 2nd down and put 11 in the box. Everyone knows they are running.......The Chief's only conduct forward passes out of desperation...

Ssshhhh! Don't tell everybody, this is Herm's secret offense, part of his master plan.

ottawa_chiefs_fan 09-19-2008 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5034089)
Your cock is going to do what to Abraham?

Is there anyone on the board for next year's draft named Mike Hunt? If so - we MUST draft him - the possibilities are ENDLESS.....

Inspector 09-19-2008 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 5033076)
Abraham just has to line up on the other side and then ****ing tee off. I hope Thigpen has all his affairs in order

Rebuilding. Get over it.

Simply Red 09-19-2008 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector (Post 5034313)
Rebuilding. Get over it.

ROFL

HC_Chief 09-19-2008 10:15 AM

Albert did a great job versus Richard Seymour, week 1. He single-blocked him quite often and won the matchup. Abraham seems to be underestimating our young LT.

irishjayhawk 09-19-2008 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 5034007)
See, this is what is wrong with the Chiefs. A Chiefs fan (heh, if you actually are a Chiefs fan), rooting for a player on the opponent's team. :shake:

FYP

Mecca 09-19-2008 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottawa_chiefs_fan (Post 5034278)
Is there anyone on the board for next year's draft named Mike Hunt? If so - we MUST draft him - the possibilities are ENDLESS.....

It's to bad Lamar didn't name his son Mike instead of Clark.

Mizzou_8541 09-19-2008 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5033159)
Abraham is and always has been overrated. If Albert is healthy, I'm not too worried about him being able to handle him.

Did I miss something? Is Albert not healthy?

***SPRAYER 09-19-2008 06:32 PM

Abraham won't spread his legs to far---

His tampon might fall out.

2112 09-19-2008 06:35 PM

This gutless mother****er sat out a playoff game with Herm because he had a tummy ache.


ROFL

Mecca 09-19-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimension2112 (Post 5035797)
This gutless mother****er sat out a playoff game with Herm because he had a tummy ache.


ROFL

He was going into his FA year, I know it's screwed up but he as protecting getting paid.

2112 09-19-2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5035802)
He was going into his FA year, I know it's screwed up but he as protecting getting paid.

And that's exactly the kind of piece of shit Atlanta got and Herm protected. it's no excuse, he's a greedy Wiesel that Herm ruined. Yes, Herman Edwards ruined the career of John Abraham. Al Groh was going to play him at weak side lb in the 3-4 in which he terrorized offenses until he got a hernia in the middle of the 2000 season. he's too small to play defensive end, that's why he always was getting hurt. he needs to play off the line and use his speed, but don't tell that idiot Herm that, he knew better.

JuicesFlowing 09-19-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 5033286)
Don't care, once again, I just wanted to let you know your avatar is the best avatar on both planets.

Funny you say that, i just gave him a rep because of his avatar. Before I read your post too.

ChiefsFanatic 09-19-2008 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5033098)
could be very ugly (again) Sunday....

Could be? :spock:

L.A. Chieffan 09-19-2008 07:04 PM

Abrahams an idiot. He's giving Herm WAAAAAAAY too much credit for actually doing stuff like "thinking" and "gameplanning"


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