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oaklandhater 09-21-2008 03:44 PM

How long can the rebuild card last?
 
How many more embarrassing games is it going to take until the media Starts talking about Herm's Job security it cant be more then 0-8 right right?????

kstater 09-21-2008 03:46 PM

I'm going to say more than 3 games.

PastorMikH 09-21-2008 04:30 PM

We've been rebuilding for 19 years and I think we can agree we are worse now than when we started.

MichaelH 09-21-2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH (Post 5042129)
We've been rebuilding for 19 years and I think we can agree we are worse now than when we started.


Yep, that about sums it up.

blueballs 09-21-2008 04:41 PM

Herm is being paid under the table by Al Davis
like Robinson was paid by Shanahan
Carl get his from the devil

Dayze 09-21-2008 05:14 PM

15 more years.

Halfcan 09-21-2008 05:15 PM

Herm will be here until the job gets done-lol

teedubya 09-21-2008 05:16 PM

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!

FAX 09-21-2008 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 5042256)
Herm will be here until the job gets done-lol

ROFL

There are just some things in life you can count on.

FAX

Brock 09-21-2008 05:17 PM

A few more losses and he's history.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5042268)
A few more losses and he's history.

No way.

I seriously think he could go 1-15 and NOT get fired.

Brock 09-21-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042282)
No way.

I seriously think he could go 1-15 and NOT get fired.

I think we're going to find out pretty quick.

Over-Head 09-21-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 5041926)
How many more embarrassing games is it going to take until the media Starts talking about Herm's Job security it cant be more then 0-8 right right?????

We've been doing it for 4 years now in Oakland:D

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5042289)
I think we're going to find out pretty quick.

All Herm has to do to avoid being fired is to sit down with Clark Hunt and go up and down the roster of each team he's faced, position by position.

The current Kansas City Chiefs talent level from 1-53 is at the expansion team level.

At best.

harpes 09-21-2008 05:34 PM

Lets see how long have the raiders been rebuilding?

chiefs1111 09-21-2008 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042282)
No way.

I seriously think he could go 1-15 and NOT get fired.

I really don't know what id do if that were to happen

evolve27 09-21-2008 05:35 PM

It's okkkaaaaaayyy, we got alot of young guys and we're the youngest team in the NFL. We got alot of youth, alot of young players, and do we expect them to make mistakes?, of course. That's apart of a young team.
-Herm

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042347)
All Herm has to do to avoid being fired is to sit down with Clark Hunt and go up and down the roster of each team he's faced, position by position.

The current Kansas City Chiefs talent level from 1-53 is at the expansion team level.

At best.

:sulk:

What is Herm going to say when Clark says "this is a very nice spreadsheet Herm, I see your computer skills are improving, but if this talent is of the expansion level as Mr DaneMcCloud say's it is, then why am I paying you to be the Head Coach, when obviously your "eye" for talent is lacking!"

Question Mr DaneMcCloud. How many of these players on this current roster have been drafted by Herm?

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5042386)
:sulk:

What is Herm going to say when Clark says "this is a very nice spreadsheet Herm, I see your computer skills are improving, but if this talent is of the expansion level as Mr DaneMcCloud say's it is, then why am I paying you to be the Head Coach, when obviously your "eye" for talent is lacking!"

Question Mr DaneMcCloud. How many of these players on this current roster have been drafted by Herm?

Why do you continue to ask questions of me, then never ****ing respond? I can find several instances.

Why the **** should I continue to answer? If this DC?

Are you Donger?

tk13 09-21-2008 05:47 PM

I'm not sure if they're going to be able to justify keeping Herm, but we'll see, it's possible.

I think we've been worse than expected, but it's not too insane. We aren't just rebuilding... we gutted the roster even more than we did last year. If we finish with a worse record, then why should we be surprised? We got rid of our best defensive player, several other veterans, and replaced most of them with rookies or undrafted/scrap heap pickups. Probably not a recipe for getting better in one year, even if the coaching was great. A lot of the moves we made were going to set us back another year or two.

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042406)
Why do you continue to ask questions of me, then never ****ing respond? I can find several instances.

Why the **** should I continue to answer? If this DC?

Are you Donger?

Jesus Carl settle down...

blaise 09-21-2008 06:08 PM

My problem with the whole rebuilding concept is a bunch of these guys aren't even going to be here three years from now. Carl won't be able to re-up everyone, some guys will want to leave even if the offer from another team is similar, and some guys will get hurt and fall off. I just don't believe in the notion that these guys will "grow up" together.
Sure, a few might and might stay, but I don't see why you have to go through a catastrophic disaster just to find a handful of good players.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5042473)
My problem with the whole rebuilding concept is a bunch of these guys aren't even going to be here three years from now. Carl won't be able to re-up everyone, some guys will want to leave even if the offer from another team is similar, and some guys will get hurt and fall off. I just don't believe in the notion that these guys will "grow up" together.
Sure, a few might and might stay, but I don't see why you have to go through a catastrophic disaster just to find a handful of good players.

What the hell are you talking about?

Players are signed for a minimum of 4 years. At four years of service, they're restricted free-agents. They're free to sign with another team. But the Chiefs can either choose to match or let the player go for compensation.

At year five, they're true free agents (if they haven't signed an extension). At that point, they're free to sign with another team, unless they've been franchised.

So these guys will be together a minimum of four years.

kstater 09-21-2008 06:16 PM

Don't forget, the way things are headed, there might not be a cap in 4 years. I think the whole negotiations are on hold after Upshaws death, but once they resume, if the cap is removed, it will never be allowed back in by the players.

L.A. Chieffan 09-21-2008 06:16 PM

OBEY

kstater 09-21-2008 06:16 PM

I think thats partly why the Raiders signed such huge contracts this year, they are banking on not having a cap.

whoman69 09-21-2008 06:16 PM

I don't think you rebuild by putting a bandaid on the situation with young players you know that aren't going to be a part of that future. Right now we are going at this like the expansion Houston Texans. We already chewed up a young running back and spit him out. Now its time to totally mess with the QB so they have no protection. Even in rebuilding some parts have to be put in place. Putting in young guys just because they are young isn't the answer. Getting a veteran to fill a hole until you have a young player you have confidence will be able to fill the role is.

blaise 09-22-2008 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042487)
What the hell are you talking about?

Players are signed for a minimum of 4 years. At four years of service, they're restricted free-agents. They're free to sign with another team. But the Chiefs can either choose to match or let the player go for compensation.

At year five, they're true free agents (if they haven't signed an extension). At that point, they're free to sign with another team, unless they've been franchised.

So these guys will be together a minimum of four years.

Like I said, some might get hurt. And not all the young players are rookies. Some are already two or three years into their deals.

So that's what the "hell I'm talking about" crybaby.


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