Looks like the old LJ is back
 

I didn't get to see the game because I went to pointfest. I know we lost the game, but I read the box score. Looks like we got LJ back. Tough running s.o.b. Go LJ !! and chiefs!

I heard he was hitting the truck stick today....
BOOOM

1 long gain helps the stat line. But he did at times in the 2nd half look like he was trying.

Well it is the best he has looked in a long while. However I still won't say he is back to his old self either.

anyone got any gif's of him trucking!

I think there were a few in the "Should LJ be benched?" thread on page 3...on second thought, no I don't think there were any in that thread.

trucking!

he ran well in the 2nd half...he could be pretty good if we had a line...he's a good two down back and Charles makes a real good 3rd down/change of pace back...

I'm not going to give him credit for a good game. He was out most of the first half because he couldn't get any yards on first down. The game was over in the first half. I didn't even watch the second but it sounds like he was getting yards when the Falcons were playing the pass.

Lets see how he plays against a decent team...as of now Atlanta is still a bottom feeder.

He's not looking very happy
and not in a spoiled kind of way
he layed hit or hits today

He is back because he put up good numbers in a meaningless game that was already over? Man you guys sure are HOMERS. Face it he was done after the big payday and 400 plus carries.

he ran harder in the 2nd half....but he also, imo, showed that he's lost something....

on that stretch play at the goal line, the old lj would have scored either by a) speed, getting to the corner or b) power, simply running someone over

in this case, he had neither....he tried a lame stutter step, then got caught and stopped by a cb(?)

again, just my opinion, but he is no longer the game breaker....

B I N G O!

QFT

You sir are a douchbag. Is Midnight Vulture your bed buddy?

Ole boy you guys will do anything but admit he isn't his old self. How can you call a guy back to his old self when he had 7 carries for 20 yards in the first half? This sounds like a GOQUEER argument by spitting out just stats instead of pointing out he put up 100yds against a nickle D in a game that was over.

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Seriously? Why?

Why because I point out the truth? So being honest instead of covering something up with excuses is being a douche? You must of believe in Santa Claus until you were 18.

I think LJ was the same in the 1st half as he was in the 2nd half. It was obvious to me that a change was made at halftime in our approach to running the football and that's why he was more effective.

Dumbshit read the thread.

**** the haters.

I capped the game and will have highlights...if my internet ever gets back working. I'm at Starbucks but about to leave in a few minutes.

I'm looking forward to seeing them. I only heard the first quarter...I was shocked he had over 100 for the day...

Lay down Larry has had one decent half of football in about 8 games. hHe will have to keep up the pace for several games to convert me back into his camp.

I can't comment on this with any knowledge as I didn't see the game; but what did he do to demonstrate the 'old LJ" was back?

Did he read the zone blocking well? Break tackles? Hit the hole well etc.

Yup, we have been telegraphing by running back, all the calls for LJ were inside the guards, almost noting else. Then we pull him, run the other RB's to the outside or give the draw, then put him and call an up the butt play. Finally starting pitching to him which gave him some options as to which hole to take, and oddly he did better.

Laaay Down Larry,
No need to run so hard,
Don't you think you make enough
to milk it?

If not for that 1 run, his stats would still blow ass.

He played well, in my humble opinion, because the coaching staff finally realized he was allowed to run off tackle.

That's the ONLY thing, if you ask me. He wasn't getting pounded up Rudy's ass all game long.

I don't understand why LJ is getting so much credit. The Falcons came out of the second half up several possessions. They quit crowding the line of scrimmage, lo and behold, we had a bit of a running game. You'd think this might be a wake-up call to our offensive staff and head coach that if defenses had to honor our passing game, maybe we could run the ball a little. I realize passing vertically in order to open up the running game is "arena ball" philosophy, someone should tell the rest of the NFL.

Yes the Falcon D did allow the running game in the second half.. but LJ did run the ball decent .. he earned his check last sunday ....

Take away Turner's 38 yd run and he would've only had 66 yrds for the game. Take away Norwood's 44 yd run and he would've only had 31 yards for the day.

LJ is not back to the 2005/06 LJ at all. he still falls down if you touch his big toe, not the same...he got his money, he bitched, hes done...Jamaal Charles tries harder than LJ anyway...its funny when LJ is taken out after having runs of 1, 2, 1, 3, 2...then they put in Charles on 3rd down, he rips off 11 yards.

The difference was we started using the running game to attack the perimeter instead of just stuffing LJ up the middle for one, or two yds. After a couple of series of constant LJ up the middle, you'd think that the coaches would think, "Hmmm, they're waiting for Larry with eight in the box, maybe we should run around the box, or send Charles around the box?" Once they started running that pitch out to Larry he actually broke for some yardage. While I think LJ hasn't given 100% I'll also say that the game planning and coaching is mostly to blame for the situation.:grr:

WAIT....LJ is back?

so no more pass blocking, more ME ME ME attitude...and when can we expect a rap album out with Jay-Z, Yung Joc, and Eminem about diapers...with LJ busting out the lyrical rhymes.

Here's my take -

Atlanta quit crowding the box at the start of the 2nd half because we ran anit-Herm Ball. By which I mean, we put together a compedent passing drive which opened up our running game in the 2nd half. That's the number one reason LJ looked better.

The second reason is that (as has already been pointed out) we allowed him to run a varity of plays. He didn't just charge staight ahead.

The third reason LJ looked better is that he looked pissed. Everyone remembers the whole "he runs angry" thing, well we did see a spark of that again. He has lost a little spead, and he seems uwilling (unable?) to totally commit to just running the 'f' over someone. It's like he wants to be a finese back... which we all know he is not. It was nice to see him "run angry" again. I have to admit...

But is the "old LJ" back? I don't think so. But he did look good for a minute there. I hope he can keep it up. But a lot of his success depends on the defensive package, the O-line, our offensive scheme, and on LJ getting back to running over people instead of trying to studder-step and tip-toe through collapsing holes. When he grabs the ball and runs he usually makes the hole before it disappears. He looked better. Not great. Nowhere near "glory days" good.

ROFLROFL

eveyone saying that he didnt run people over must not have watched the game very closely, a couple of his rushes before the big one he ran over not one guy but two, it mightve been just before half i'll have to go back and rewatch, also on the play from the goalline, if lj had been in for all the downs he also probably wouldve scored, charles didnt do anything on his run and then we throw lj back in and he gets us to the 1 inch line, if he would have had 3-4 shots at it he would have scored the way he was running at that point,

no, you're right. he was certainly doing a fair amount of it during the game. Not what I remember in years past, but certainly an improvement from the last couple of weeks. I get frustrated and hot-headed and tend to speak in generalities. But you're right. Gotta give LJ his due. He looked much better than he has. When he runs right over people he succeeds. It's when he tries to finesse the D that he gets stuffed. Certainly, the way he was running late, I was surprised they didn't give him 3 or 4 shots at the endzone on that drive.

He ran hard and seemed to have better vision, but we were playing against a softened Atlanta defense in the Second Half. I need to see one more week to believe he's back to form.

Chiefs need to trade LJ for whatever they can get out of him

I'd settle for someone who can pass block for starters.


LJ will never be an LT...why have a cancerous leech on a team that is rebuilding..when Charles and Smith are more better backs than LJ ever thought.

LJ is just a legacy...part of the vermeil era..and another reason why the regime of peterson needs removed

"more better backs than lj ever thought"? are you crazy? neither one are the rb lj is, maybe better blockers but not better backs

twin son's of different mothers.

blah, blah, blah. They all suck, including Larry ****ing Johnson. He starts falling before he gets to the line, and then he falls forward for two yards. That's on a good run.

oh yeah and you really watched the game

It's the Falcons. Turner/Norwood are not supposed to be good.

huh?? you must also pay REAL CLOSE ATTENTION to football, people were raving about the turner signing, you probably think he did nothing in san diego also

I watched the first two games all the way through. I watched the first half of the 3rd game and decided the Ryder cup would be much more fun to watch. I admit that I know very little about football and all the nuances, but I've seen enough of Larry to form an opinion that he's lost his burst. He certainly is a small part of the Chiefs failure, but he's also not adding anything to potential success. I'm so ****ing done with all the excuses for this team. They are an embarrassment to the NFL. Thank God for the fact that the Raiders FO is in shambles. It gives the media something to talk about rather than the embarrassing Chiefs. For the record, I'll be watching the ****ing Chiefs next Sunday, hoping for a win.

well bogey at least youre honest, but if you had seen him in the 2nd half what you said would be wrong

Turner has done well against the Lions and Chiefs... until he plays a good defense, I am not impressed.

You've come a long way from your ultimate homer position a few months ago.

Is there no validity to the fact that the Falcons D were less concerned about the run and more concerned about the pass in the second half? Just asking. I don't want to take anything away from anything positive that this team does. But honestly, I am appalled at how bad we truly are, and honestly, I don't think anyone on this team deserves compliments of any kind.

I'm sad about that, really, really sad. But you are right. I used to bash people on here for bashing the Chiefs. I had the never give up, any given Sunday homer glasses on. I GIVE UP! Until we fix this team, there are no given Sundays. And even if we do win, it'll be a fluke. I have learned/accepted that people on here are much more informed about the game of football than I am, and are basing their opinions on facts, not hope and unfortunately, they were right and I was wrong. ****ity, ****, ****!

Having that said we ran the same ****ing HB toss play to the right side over and over and over again and for whatever reason the ATL defense couldn't stop it. Don't think it was so much LJ as it was their defense failing miserably to execute and stop that play.

What?

Wait.........so let me get this straight.

Are you seriously coing on here and suggesting that Santa Claus isn't real?

You can't really be that stupid!

that same play always worked in past years also, its ljs(and priest's for that matter) bread and butter play, we used to bash lj on that very play because at first he didnt run it as well as priest. it just gives the oline a chance to just slow someone down and lj a couple of steps to get going and find any hole instead of trying to make one where there is none, on that toss he AT LEAST has a shot to string it out and it kinda forces him to be patient

why would ANY team worry about the pass from us right now? no one is. all they worry about is our run game, and so far not too much on that.
LOOK im not saying he's all the way back and sun might have been an aberration BUT maybe just maybe they and him have found some way for him to be successful and comfotable in our offense. they run that play for charles and smith, but not once for lj until the 2 nd half of the 3rd game WHY? are they(herm) setting us up to fail this year? if so thats ****ed up.
look at past years and you will see what lj is capable of doing if the plays are called that work for him and EVERY player needs to be put in a position to be successful.

We rarely ran that dowhill toss with Priest. There is a difference between that play and the sweep we ran under Vermeil.

not much only difference is that we arent pulling the guard. which we would if we had guards who could

There's actually a huge difference.

ok and you are ****ing stupid they put lj in a position to succeed and you want to dispute ticky tack bullshit. most on here will say you sir know jackshit about football

what's another difference?

Try watching a toss sweep and then watch a downhill toss. The former is designed to go outside. The latter is designed for the back to pick his hole.

There's a fundamental difference in the blocking techniques used in one play vs the other.

Dude, you're at Starbucks. Shouldn't you be trying to pick up a woman rather than making sure your homosexual love interest is defended on an internet message board? :spock:


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WELL every "DOWNHILL TOSS" we called sun went outside, how many "toss sweeps" did priest cut back to get to the hole? youre a stupid ****

LJ had to come back like that after crap he said that upcoming week. Why couldnt he do that in any other game?? the same line in front of him

Should have kept Saunders, Solari was a great o line coach. That offense was exciting. The offense is just boring...nothing really moves quick. The offense is just plain slow and and put LJ in a different gear. His burst has gone away only until the line can start moving fast and making good pancake blocks. If you watch his clips on youtube his big runs always have a tackle/guard down field taking a defender out making an alley. Now the line can't get a guy down field to block to keep a gap open. Watch the speed of the whole line truckin for LJ check out who's QB, too. Chiefs need a new Offensive Cord. that have a quick offense that will put LJ back into gear.

I'm sure there are many reason LJ is struggling that aren't all his fault. However, I suspect one of them is his heart. IMHO, he is not running as hard as he can. Who can blame him though. This team is going no where, and he'll likely be traded soon. He's saving his body, and, he's a pussy. So there!

The group that I watch games with says the same thing. They think there's no way he'll be on this team next year. But who are we going to trade him to, and what could we possibly get for him? Seems like he's lost any real trade value.

IMHO, that was the main difference in LJ in the 2nd half of the Falcon game. He seemed to be "running angry" again. There was a spark there, I thought. That was nice to see again. Feels like it's been forever.

No, Mr. Penis. I have limited internet time and I have work to do.

Don't worry. You'll go spelunking soon enough. I only hope you thank me when it happens.

Well it could have something to do with facing a different team ;) Or perhaps he actually had a couple holes to run through :eek: