Gun Advise
 

I know that we have a couple of gun experts on here. I'm seeking some advice.

The wife has finally agreed to allow a gun in the house and I'm looking for suggestions. It would have to be something that she can use as well (she's not very big).

I went to Bass Pro this afternoon and got some good info. I really liked the feel of the S&W 9mm.

I recently moved so I apparently have to get my driver's license straight before I can make a purchase. I'm thinking about heading to the Bullet Hole this weekend and shooting with some different options as well.

Any ideas?

Advice. Just sayin.

Whoops

did you recently increase your wifes life insurance?

have her hold the targets in the air...or...on her head...or..in her mouth

You're wanting a hand gun for your first gun?

Have you shot before?

How familiar are you?

Price Range?

Buy more than one cause Obama will try to keep guns from law abiding people. Get them now.

My advice is a .38 revolver. If you (or her) are unfamiliar with firearms, it might be better to start with a revolver first. They are much easier to load and operate, and you can instantly tell if they're loaded. Also, a .38 doesn't have all that much kick to it.

9mm is nice, 45 is better IMO. Glock makes my favorites.

My next purchase for conceal carry = Glock 36

9mm Baretta auto is pretty sweet and easy to manage

Revolvers are much easier for women to use, as they often don't know how to properly pull back the slide or aren't strong enough to do it on a semi-auto.

S&W semi autos get kind of mixed reviews. If you want one around an entry level price, look at the Fabriques. They are phenomenal guns.

Barrett .50 cal SASS. All the way.

ROFL

if it's her first, have her try a .22; rent one at the range; gradually work your way up to .38, 9mm. .40 etc.

don't drop $600 on a gun that's too powerful for her.

My wife was skeert sh*tless when she shot my 9mm; but was way more comfortable with the .22; and subsequently the .38.

my $.02

agreed; the slides vary as far as difficulty etc.

if you're looking for something to protect the house she can use etc....a revolver is good. less chance of a jam etc; and if proficicent a good caliber revolver will do the job

If you're looking for a home defense weapon, you might be better off going with a short, affordable Mossburg 20 guage. Buckshot won't go through walls and would be relatively easy to become familiar with. Look at the 870 and 500 models.

Handgun = Yes

I have shot before, while in the military I would occasionally be armed with a 9mm when I flew. I also shot an M-16 while in boot camp. Didn't grow up with guns though and I'm not a hunter.

It's been years since I've handled any kind of firearm some my familiarity has dropped. I plan on taking safety and training courses along with any purchase that I make.

Price range would probably top out at $600.

Check out the Springfield Armory's XD series. Easy to use and even in .45 ACP hardly any kick. You can get them in 9mm or .40 too. The safety features is why I am suggesting the SA XD.

If you're looking for a decent, affordable gun.

Kimbers are great, but out of your price range.

If you like the Smith and Wesson, look at the 1911 style .45

My latest handgun is a c&c Taurus Millenium 9mm.

You might look at the Springfield XD, maybe a subcompact.


If you're looking for a "starter" gun....You might get a .22 Mosquitto.
not a lot of KO power, but its a reliable gun and not "scary" if you're shooting it.


The Revolvers are idiot proof(almost apparently)...but the smaller ones, especially the c&c size .38 .380....have a lot of kick for their size and will hurt her wrist or bruise her palm if she shoots very many rounds.

The guy at Bass Pro was also pushing the shotgun idea. I don't like it though. I want something that I can also have fun with and taking a handgun to the firing range on occasion sounds more interesting.

As for the revolver vs semi arguments the wife would get a lot of exposure at the range and would become proficient. A small revolver might make sense though.

We'll certainly go and rent at the range and test dive some different options.

What you need is a bazooka

theres one for sale in the trailer court behind the walmart in gardner.

an ex military soldier has a bazooka, and a collection of unused zippo lights, and a freakin bomb, that stands about 5 feet tall...and has a dent on the top of the shell casing

I wondered if it was a sting...so I only bought the abu garcia reel.

Can you imagine, getting a speeding ticket on the way home from work, and have a bomb and bazooka in the passenger seat....how the hell would you explain that???

if it was truly for home protection I would get shotgun so you have a large spray hitting atleast some portion of the bad guy

"Desert Eagle.... point five O"

agreed.

I have the XD (although not the sub-compact); great gun. The wife shot the mosquitto at the range and was like Dirty Harry. She loved it (...naturally...the wife likes the $500+ .22. lol)

It's not a bomb. It's an RV shitter tank.

Like many have said, it depends on what you need a handgun for.

My wife has a Taurus .38 for concealed carry.

I have a Springfield XD-40 Compact... too much recoil for my wife, but exactly what I want. One buddy of mine uses a Springfield XD-9 for CC, another the XD-45 in subcompact. Obviously, we're all XD fans.

Bullethole has everything, so try out several different models/calibers.

I think you could legally purchase the bazooka...you just can own the rounds for it.

You can buy a grenade launcher addon for a black rifle at a gunshow....but you can only buy flares.

Yeah, my wife is the same way but she has moved up to the 9mm after getting used to firing with the .22. She shot 4 rounds of .45 with my 1911 and won't touch it anymore. She also dislikes the AR-15 for some reason, she said it wasn't the kick but the sound scared her each time she pulled the trigger. I don't get that one.

IMO, a shotgun is a pretty cumbersome weapon to use in the confines of one's house. Especially if it's dark, you're half-asleep, you've just been awakened by an alarm or some other noise that caused you to feel the need to arm yourself, and you're scared.

true 'dat

;)

You could always go with a .357 revolver.

You can load the .357 ammo and the wife can load .38 ammo. Also the .357 is a heavier gun it will not kick as much with the .38 ammo in it.

I agree with renting a .22 for your wife and letting her get used to it. I started out with a 9mm and I could handle it without problems. I don't know how my wife would do.

If you live in KC check out the Crossfire Rec Center off of Truman Rd in Independence. You can rent a gun for $5 + ammo. Not bad at all.

Crossfire Rec Center
21200 E Truman Rd
Independence, MO 64056

I'll check out the Springfield XD's.

Thanks for the info. I knew that you bastards could come through on this.;)

this is true too.

Similar contemplation when the wife was looking at a pistola

So you're suggesting that a smaller, revolver would be more idiot proof under similar circumstances?

I was thinking of getting the XD-M in 9mm for the wife. 19+1 capacity should be enough bullet holes if the occasion for her to ever have to defend herself came around.

Bring it to Iowania and we'll shoot some old toilets or something.

Its like preschool though, if you bring rounds, you have to bring enough for everyone.

What did you fly?

Well, nothing's idiot proof under those circumstances - I found that out the hard way. Of course, my little incident was a false alarm. And it's much easier to get a shotgun out of someone's grasp than a handgun.

The two things I learned from my little misadventure were (1) keep the gun loaded with safety rounds, and (2) don't pull the hammer back on a revolver unless you actually see somebody you mean to shoot.

S-3b Aircrew.

really?

9 mm is pretty simple

just make sure that you

1. get the right ammo ... some 9mm have/need "long" ammo

2. make sure you go to a range and get the feel of handling it so that the first time you have to use it isn't under stress.

is that the tanker versino or the Sub-hunter type version?

or both?

The Hoover? Cool!

Sounds like a winner.

But how many old toilets do you have sitting around?:eek:

Personally, I have no firearms in the house. I just ask the intruders a lot of questions and they leave the house quickly, running and screaming. These threads are neat, however.

Best advice for any newbies and firearms. Get some professional training too, it can go a long way.

We're talking about beginners here. With a revolver you know if it's loaded by looking at it. It won't jam. And there is no safety to mess you up if you are discombobulated and need to fire quickly.

That WAR HOOVER.

And it was mainly a tanker for the gas sucking f-18's. It was still equipped for surface ship and sub hunting but there wasn't much a need for that. We usually just hunting our own guys.

I think the bullet hole in Shawnee has a course for like $45.

Plus, I think Wednesdays are 'ladies'" nights; shoot for free (no range fee)

Hollow points and old milk jugs full of water make for very, uh, reactive target shooting. Old 2 liter bottles full of water work also. ;)

Hmmm? If the primary issue is some low life breaking into your house, a shotgun is the only way to go and as stated above, use 00 Buck. I just bought a Remington 870, with the 2 shot extension and an "18 barrel this week to add to the collection. If you are looking for a handgun, I really like Glocks. http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm I have a Glock 20, 10mm and love it, but that would likely be a little to much power for your wife, if she hasn't been around handguns. If it is more for protection, consider a Lasermax for the gun. Whatever you point the dot on, is where your bullet is going to go.
http://www.lasermax.com/

Ammo is also something you will want to consider. I have 4 high capacity, 15 round clips for my glock 20, all loaded with different bullet types and love the Corbon rounds. http://www.dakotaammo.net/

They make very hot rounds and are great for various self defense issues. The rounds are expensive (Not plinking rounds) compared to a Federal round, Remmington rounds, or something of that nature, but are what you want in there in a life or death situation. When I am in the back woods full of grizzly's, that's the only round I will have in the gun. The same goes for street, or home defense.

I hope that helps a little, I didn't get to deep into it and tried to keep it basic. Good luck.

I'm a firm believer in a compact 12 gauge shotty with buck shot for home defense.

A 9mm would be a good choice for the post shit storm head shot to ensure the job is done however.

;)

That's because the AR is a loud f&#^$er; especially in the 16" variants (like mine).

Great minds Mr. Bwana, great minds.

Nice, I’ve been looking at Crimson Trace grips for my Colt .45. I’ll have to take a look at these also.

http://www.crimsontrace.com/

QFT. Always better to have weapon with some degree of forgiveness on accuracy, and a round that doesn't go through wall after wall for home defense.

Yep, some silly f***er might wind up putting a round in the washing machine or refrigrator!

ROFL

Heh, You are just lucky you didn't have to fire off a round when you borrowed my .454 Casull, when we were up in Alaska, the day you took off by yourself in the brush to go fishing. I had that thing loaded with Corbon big game rounds. It would have killed the bear or moose, but it feels like someone just hit your hand with a 5 pound hammer when you touch off that hand cannon with those particular rounds in it. :)

What incident?

ROFL

Fraz the fridge killa.......

I would guess that thread is in the hall of fame?

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg193-e.htm

stood off the back porch with this model and would put rounds into the clothes line pole one after the other. maybe 35-40 yds away.

very very reliable,auto decock, easy take down for cleaning, concealable, enough round to stop a man. and you can get one for about $250.
dont let the price fool you, i cant speak highly enough about this firearm.

mom has one.

Oh, that's right.....I remember hearing a little something about that awhile back, I don't really know what happened though.

Guess I'll go do a little digging.

crazy talk.

I briefly looked into getting a .454 Casull but every review I read called the recoil “punishing”. They said if a .44 Mag feels like a lot of recoil to you don’t bother with the Casull.
One auther recommended target practicing with .45 Long Colts, I guess it’ll shoot those also, then load the Casull rounds for go time. “When faced with a charging animal with large teeth and claws” they said, “you won’t be worried about the recoil.”

I don't remember if I told you this or not but I was in (ironiclly enough) Moose River swinging the fly rod and heard a snort coming from behind me. Looked over my shoulder and female elk was about 15' or 20' feet behind me. She must have waded in while my back was turned.

Guess where the gun was?

Front seet of the jeep because I didn't want to get it wet.

Tell you what, I don't know if it was the shock of the situaion or not but they are big animals. You could get two normal size horses and stand one on top of the other to match the height of a moose.

Thank God I brought a change of skivvies!

How so?

Dead link. Talk you into trying again?

Here's the condensed version.

Burglar alarm goes off early in the morning. I am awakened from a dead sleep of about 4 hours, grab my revolver, and charge downstairs. When I see that the door that was tripped was to the garage, I assume someone's after my new car. That's when I pull back the hammer. It turns out to be a false alarm. I turn off the alarm, but when I go to uncock the gun, the hammer slips from beneath my thumb while I have the trigger pulled. BOOM. The gun was pointed down and away, and at the end of down and away was the wall to the pantry, the pantry door and the bottom of the refrigerator door.

dont pull a gun unless youre going to shoot someone.dont show your trump card till the bitter end.
the only way you are going to get a shotgun away from someone is they dont intend to use it.see above.

odd. this one worked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._50

That one worked, thanks.
So you like the .32 ACP round huh? I'll admit I never considered it.

perfect advice. miles more stopping power too.

i think there's something psychological about seeing a long gun, or hearing the sound of a pump action being racked that may convince them they need to GTFO more than a pistol would.

I agree with the Glock. I use/carry a Glock 19C (9mm, 4" barrel, compensated) and it is easy to shoot and maintain. Very reliable, nicely balanced... I keep it loaded with hollow points so the 9mm disadvantage is not as big as a standard 9mm round.

If I round the corner at the base of my stairs, and some punk who just broke into my house is waiting for me with a gun drawn, I'll have my gun drawn already. Otherwise, the bitter end might just come while I'm pulling it out. And if I have a shotgun, he'll see the barrel first and grab it. Maybe he won't yank it out of my hands, but he'll definitely fuck me up for shooting it.

FYP

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For the home if you weren't going to go shotgun, a Glock 22 would probably be a good choice. I have a 27 that is my carry weapon and I like it a lot.

I usually have Federal HST or hydra-shock loaded.

The recoil of a normal .454 round isn't to bad, but with Corbon "hot" rounds in it, ouch!

You are 100% spot on with the 2nd part as well.

ya its not bad. but i like that model with the 32. next cc i get will be a 50. carried alot of weapons way back and this was the most reliable imo.

wtf do i need a rocket launcher for,i wanna shoot straight and hit what im aiming at.

never owned a revolver myself, but some manufacturers will build in some kind of... safety feature, dont know how to describe it, to prevent it from happening except from the trigger. there's a little metal piece that covers the primer unless the trigger releases it.

no dog?

Thanks, funny story. I just found the thread and skimmed it over. Luckily noone got hurt.

I would have popped the stupid ****ing cat.

I had the trigger depressed, because it was my intention to uncock it. My thumb was sweaty and it slipped off the hammer. Had I grabbed the Glock, it wouldn't have been an issue.