current college head coaches we could talk to about our impending vacancy
 

current contracts withstanding....

Bob Stoops - give the man a blank check and let him fill it out.

Steve Spurrier - not convincing with the redskins but has done great things with SC

Rich Rodriguez - runs the spread option offense but has won several conference championships. i'm not big on him but i've seen his name mentioned here several times

Mack Brown - seems like he will stay at texas for his entire career and is the polar opposite of the "new / young blood" that the crew here at CP wants

Bronco Mendenhall - might be a good fit in kc as he is a young defensive minded coach and our team is already being built as a defense first machine. definitely goes with the new / young blood need and want from CP'ers (only 42)

Bret Bielema - if the f.o decided they wanted to shake kc to its core and go a little crazy. very young at 38 and has led the badgers to a 21-5 in a pretty strong division (big 10)

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who else is out there?

College coaches? Since they have a high success rate in the NFL.

as opposed to our steady stream of success now using "NFL" coaches?

I like Bob Stoops....hate the Sooners right now, but Stoops was a guy KC was looking at before we picked up Herm...maybe we should go down that road again.

Those are good college coaches, but I say that we go for a proven NFL record. Give Bill Cowher whatever he wants. I will wash and wax his car, mow his yard and scrub his toliets every week if he takes the job.

Cowher is Herm ****ing Senior.

No. Thank. You.

Give me a young coordinator in the NFL currently, with a great mind and a vision of greatness.

And the ability to coach.....

NO to all those guys, for many reason.

Mainly, they're not NFL coaches and don't coach Pro-Style offenses.

Plus, I don't think Herm is going ANYWHERE so it's a waste of time to even discuss it.

i hate to disagree with you LT but i have no desire to have cowher in kc. i used to... but i am tired of people who have any current or past ties to the organization.

that said... i would not be at all surprised to see him here soon.

I think a guy like Les Myles would have a good chance of transitioning from college to the Pros. He'd have some instant rep too since he coached both Bowe and Dorsey.

ok... no real disagreement here.

but for shits and giggles... who in the nfl would you consider? someone who would be available either immediately or at the end of this season... preferably before the draft.

BUT

we want to dream!!!

Chan Gailey? Eric Price? :) What am I saying!? Bring back Marty!

**** Marty

In his defense: Cowher's record as a head coach is 149-90-1 (161-99-1 including playoff games). And he's won a SuperBowl. I just don't want a head coach that's a "project." Maybe a young OC or DC from a successful franchise, but not much less than that.

OK since you've shot down everyone we've come up with give us an idea or two.

RON PRINCE FOR THE WIN

Grab a young NFL coach...

Jason garrett ?

It took him 15 YEARS to win a Super Bowl.

Clearly, you don't know much about the Steelers under Cowher.

It's not up to me to scout and choose a coach.

It's up to Clark Hunt.

Bet he gets the Dallas job next year, he's getting paid like a HC already

More than you douche-nozzle...

In Cowher’s 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles.

Oh, just **** you, Mr. Wikipedia.

Cowher's outright stubborness at hiring or drafting an actual ****ing QB cost the Steelers at least three additional trips to the Super Bowl.

Mike Tomcazk, Kent Graham, Kordell Stewart, Tommy Maddox - Do those sound like championship QB's to you?

It wasn't until Rothlisberger was drafted that the Steelers had any hope of advancing to and winning a Super Bowl. In his first year, the Steelers went 15-1. The one loss?

The one game Rothlisberger didn't start.

I've had the NFL Ticket for the past 7 years and before that, spent every Sunday for the prior 10 years in a sports bar. I know more about the Steelers than you'll ever know.

"T-Post". :rolleyes:

Kiffin (Shannahan), then draft Stafford (Elway). Have Lane bring in his pops Monte, and we have a great DC that runs the Tampa Two that Herm has installed a lot of the the pieces to. I really think we need an offensive minded OC more than a defensive guy...

Ha, that makes you a genius, doesn't it? You are reeruned. Calling him Herm Sr.? Ha, compare their records, dumbass.

You can't argue with Cowher's success, the stats or the facts. He's a coach that's already taken his lumps and learned how to win. You have anyone better for the Chiefs?

You're a sad, bitter piece of shit that can't accept facts. Go crawl back in your hole. Your're dismissed.

Kiffin, like Shanahan, needs to establish himself as a excellent offensive coordinator before handing him the reigns of another franchise.

Let him prove he's worthy of a another head coaching position.in the NFL first.

**** off, loser.

Apparently, you can only quote stats. What, are you Recxjake in disguise?

Cowher had so many opportunities to advance to the Super Bowl in the late 90's it was ****ing ridiculous. The defenses under Capers and Dick LeBeau along with offenses under Chan Gailey and Mike Mularkey put the Steelers in position to go to the Super Bowl many times. But Cowher's reluctance to draft and groom a QB killed any chance of advancing beyond the AFC Championship game.

Kordell Stewart versus John Elway.

Who wins, genius?

Now, GFY. Dickbag.

Well if he proved he was worthy with another team first I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be able to get him then.... Coaches have to come from somewhere, I say give someone like him a shot. I still wouldn't take him unless he was able to bring Monte or someone like that with him... The offense wouldn't be all in his hands he would still hire an OC... he would just let the OC do things unlike Herm.

So you suggest hiring because someone else hired him before? WTF kind of logic is that?

First, you say Kiffen is Shanahan. Well, after Shanahan was fired from the Raiders, he went back to Denver as QB's coach. After he and Reeves had a falling out, he then became the O-Coordinator of the 49ers and coached them to a Super Bowl win.

He was hired by Denver 6 years after being fired by the Raiders.

Not 6 weeks. Not 6 months. 6 years.

Kiffin needs to prove that he's a successful NFL coordinator before he's hired as a head coach.

Bring him in as an offensive assistant :P

Theoretically, that would be up to a new head coach.

But NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE is going to be able to do jackshit with McInSuck and Jones.

Let alone three QB's that should be in the AFL2.

I am in the Steve Spagnuolo boat. He runs a Jim Johnson-esque 4-3 for the Giants. Our defense is best equipped for that style. He's defensive-minded and only 48. And he's not a cover 2 bitch. And he obviously knows D-Linemen. Who better to bring in to develop tank, dorsey and turk as well as to find a gem of a RDE?

Spagnuolo makes a ton of money to be a DC, he can basically call his shot on the job he wants.

He was the guy I mentioned in earlier threads this year.

He'll be the hot coach this offseason, especially if the Giants continue to tear it up this season.

It looks like nothing's going to stop them.

Yeah, stats mean nothing. That's why nobody keeps track of them in NFL. :shake:

Despite all of Cowher's success, he's not good enough to coach here? 'Well last time I checked' (in Herm's Sunday Sermon voice), we aren't winning too many playoff games at Arrowhead. Er...any playoff games. Aw hell, we aren't winning many regular season games. There's no reason to doubt that Cowher could come in here and make this franchise respectable again. If you find a better alternative, let me know.

Yes, stats mean nothing. The ONLY stat that matters is the Super Bowl.

There are FAR better alternatives than continuing the current path.

Cowher's a ball-control, defense first head coach. Why do you think it took him 15 years to win a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh when they were loaded at every position other than QB?

Do you think it's some kind of coincidence that just after Rothlisberger was drafted, they win a Super Bowl? Yet the 12 preceding years, they stumbled in the playoffs with bozos at QB?

No thanks. We had enough suffering.

I wonder if Spagnuolo would even consider it.

He said no to the Redskins, he can basically call his shot, you can believe if he has no say he's gonna turn the job down.

i like this

we can make an offer to a coach who is under contract as long as the offer is for a promotion... that is the rule, right?

if so.... perhaps we can replace gunther with a man who is also a 4-3 guy and has worked with steve in the past.

we could make an offer to ron rivera while we are at it, no?

Why Ron Rivera? What has he done?

Duh, Cower took the Steelers to the Super Bowl in 1996. He was hired in '92. H-E-L-L-O! Oh, I guess it doesn't count unless you WIN the Super Bowl. Well gee Sparky, I'll take a SB loss over the last 38 f***ing years!

I'd be cool with him, I love what he's done in NY.

So, in your mind, the choice is between a coach who should have been fired more than a decade ago for starting guys like Kordell Stewart, Kent Graham, Mike Tomzack and Tommy Maddox (while his defenses, running game and wide receivers were top notch) versus a franchise that hasn't won a Super Bowl in nearly 40 years and is in desperate need of coaching change.

George Siefert once won a Super Bowl, too. Actually, twice.

Carolina didn't work out so well for him, did it?

Yeah, great logic.

:rolleyes:

Spagnuolo's honeymoon would last 1 day - right up until the point he says he's keeping his good friend Dick Curl on staff.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=178986

Snyder is the second coming of AD. We can hope that after AD dies, snyder changes teams. :evil:

I just want to see our defense crashing through offenses rather than this bend but don't break bullshit. Spagnuolo also has coached every defensive position. My worry is that he may not be great at developing players. He came to the giants in 2007. That by no means inspires confidence on that level for me. I guess he was with the Iggles during their glory years. But was that him developing them or Johnson? I guess it's just a risk you have to take.

He can keep him on staff. Just get him the **** away from the QBs.

Well not every coach thinks hiring their friends is a good idea when the friend isn't good at what he does.

Tell that to Don Shula.

Or Dick Vermeil (see Mike White, Greg Robinson, et al).

And many, many more...

When guys get old I think their ideas change, Vermiel just wanted people he was familiar with, hell he wanted to guys guys like Hicks for that reason.

Hell, fire Dick Curl before he gets here! Problem solved.

until he took the lb coach with the bolts, he had been on teams that were tough defensively, has consistently been on teams who have not only been to the playoffs but have actually made it to the divisional championship game.

as a defensive coordinator for chicago, he did this:

2003 - 21.6 ppg allowed (year before Rivera)

2004 - 20.7 ppg allowed
2005 - 13.6 ppg allowed
2006 - 15.9 ppg allowed

2003 - 19 sacks (year before Rivera)

2004 - 32 sacks
2005 - 41 sacks
2006 - 38 sacks

2003 - 78.8 qb rating against (year before Rivera)

2004 - 76.86 qb rating against
2005 - 62.57 qb rating against
2006 - 65.58 qb rating against

2003 - 309.2 yards allowed per game (year before Rivera)

2004 - 336.9 yards allowed per game
2005 - 290.8 yards allowed per game
2006 - 295.2 yards allowed per game

the year he leaves chicago... most of their stats begin to sink again

2007 - 21.8 ppg allowed
2007 - 42 sacks
2007 - 82.81 qb rating against
2007 - 354.7 yards allowed per game

they guy is a proven defensive leader and chicago made a big mistake in letting him go and in a situation where steve would be the hc for the chiefs it is a match made in heaven. not only are they of the same mind defensively... they have also worked on the same staff so are already acquainted.

Logic? You've spewed enough fuzzy logic to knit a sweater. Let me see: 'Seifert didn't win with the Panthers, therefore, all other successful coaches will fail when they go to a new team.' You are a moron. I'll call your Seifert and raise you a Mike Holmgren, a Dan Reeves, a Dick Vermeil, and a Bill Parcells.

Back in the day, I'm sure you told everyone that Tony Dungy was worthless and anyone that tried to make Shaun King an NFL qb was a complete idiot and would never be able to coach a team to a winning record, let alone a Super Bowl. Yeah, keep typing Sparky, you're lighting it up.

Why are you offering viable solutions instead of just ripping other posters? :)

I couldn't draw up a worse list of candidates if I ****ing tried.

Herm hasn't done shit. Know the difference, or stfu.

Thats exactly what I was thinking. I don't click on these threads so I can waist my time reading about solutions to the Chiefs problems. I'm here to see the keyboard beat downs with hopes of seeing a good old fashioned pile on.

This thread is about who would YOU go after, but in true Dane the Dick form, you've done nothing but BASH other people's opinions, while not offering any kind of solutuion of you're own, other than a guy who would never come here.

Way to go, you ****ing arrogant Dick.

NO to all the guys in the thread starter.

I second the Ron Prince idea.

(I can only handle cheering for one shitty team at a time, and I have season tickets already for the Cats)

NO college coaches. While I would obviously love to see Mike Leach have a role on the Chiefs offensive staff... I'd rather see him as head coach of my 'Canes.

The Chiefs need to stick with a proven NFL guy with a resume of building an aggressive passing offense.

Why would you hire a college coach? Have you seen what's happened to the last few college coaches?

even if it was smart to bring in a college coach, which it isn't, this list of them sucks

I'd take Stoops just to get him out of Oklahoma.

Replace him with Callahan. :evil:

oh yeah, i never thought of that. maybe OU makes a bad hire and their program goes down. or maybe Mangino goes back for his dream job, and KU returns to being Baylor of the north?

You had your chance from 96-98 when they had John Blake and Howard Schnellenberger.