Portis says with Pacman situation blown out of proportion
 

hahah

Wasnt this the guy who Sympathized with Vick too?

"I really think that situation man probably was blown out of proportion, I really do," Portis said of the Pacman fight. "And I think it might have just been somebody watching and seen the altercation and it wasn't nothing that couldn't be handled amongst men, you know? Bodyguard or no bodyguard, if you're around somebody constantly, tempers gonna flare. As men you exchange words. ...

"And I think with Pacman, to come back, to really have this opportunity was a golden opportunity for him, and all of the sudden it's been taken away by the outside world. And now you're under such a tight microscope that you can't fall, or you can't have a disagreement with a grown man. You know, I could see if it was pistol play or if he strangled him or choked him out while he was driving, but you know, if it's man-to-man and we bump chests and push each other, you know, I don't think that's an altercation worth taking football away from him. But, you know, wrong place wrong time is all I can say."


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcs...pacman_su.html

Portis = Retarted moran

In case anyone wondered why Denver would trade away a RB who would have been a perennial 2000 yard threat in their run system, here you go.

Portis has to realize this is 2008 everything is going to be blown out of proportion.

And vail Portis has been nothing but a positive for Washington.

Does Portis have a college degree?

No, he went to the U. :D

I once fought Phobia when he was hired to be my bodyguard.

It was really no biggie though.

We are still friends these days.

What Portis has to say makes a lot of sense.

I can't defend Pacman's earlier troubles that put him squarely underneath a microscope (he made his bed), but I can certainly see this as a bit harsh given all we know.

It wasn't about the fight. It was about alcohol being involved, which is a violation of his probation.

QFT.

If that's the case then he's up a creek...

But has it been determined that he did in fact violate his probation?

Portis also said the Michael Vick dogfighting case wasn't anyone's business but his own.

But....Portis comes from the U, where they teach their players how to become ****ing cracked up thugged out n******.

I think i know what your getting at.

Why was the Matt Jones cocaine incident put on page 12 of the sports section??

I will agree that the media tends to blow things up when its a black athlete. UNfortunately, thats how the media operates these days. Especially when its a huge "Lightening Rod" like Pacman.

As Zach would say.................Ew

F Portis!

Well that didn't take long.

Because Matt Jones doesn't have a history of being a ****ing asshole, punching women and hasn't had a police record that unfolds to be a mile long.


Just a guess though.

Actually I hadn't planned on going there.

My point was simply that if Goodell is going to defer to the conditions of Jones' probation... He should wait to suspend him after it has been determined that he did in fact violate his probation.

Positively ghetto. They can have him, him and his title belt didn't fit with Shanny's program. Champ on the other hand is all good.
Portis learned a lesson: no one is above getting moved in the NFL if you cross your coach.

so the body guards can't keep him on the straight and narrow.... hmmm

Sounds like the Cowgirls have real issues and apparently they were NOT real clear with him on what he could/could not do....

**** that......he was specifically told that if he had ANY run ins with the law, he would get suspended. I like this hard nosed approach.

Its very clear that Pacman can't stay out of trouble. His ass should be in jail. People seem to forget that he was involved in a ****ing shooting where a guy almost lost his life.

Matt Jones is a white guy?

Bullshit. Goodell put the responsibility square on Pac's shoulders to avoid even the slightest appearance of impropriety. He failed miserably and now must take responsibility for his actions.

If you fail to live up to your responsibilities you lose priveleges. Our children are taught this from a very young age. Clearly PacMan doesn't quite grasp the concept or he just doesn't care.

You mean like Frank Gore?
Or Clinton Portis?

Or like a half-dozen other U alumns who've never been in trouble?

Someones gotta say it. I'm not racist either.........theres a true difference between being black and being thugged out n*****

The guy comes out of the ghetto and its one of those instances where you can take Pacman out of the hood.......but you cant take the hood out of pacman.

Or maybe it was a easy choice considering that a Grade A corner is > than a grade A RB? Especially in a system that continues to make runners look better than they appear.

From my understanding he did violate the terms on his probation because alcohol was involved.

I'm going to ask you to clarify which part of my commentary is bullshit.

Roger Goodell's reinstatement stipulated that he obey all three conditions of his probation, yes?

It has not been determined that he violated his probation, yes?

Those are facts sir. Dispute them if you'd like, but you'd only be calling your own credibility into question.

And I'm probably just guessing that you wouldn't let that shit fly out of your mouth if you were around a group of Black people.

That hasn't been determined.
Police only said that they believed alcohol may have been involved.

The court determines the terms of his probation, not the Cowboys. And how is a bodyguard suppossed to keep a grown man from drinking except to physically stop them, like maybe a fight?

There is mention of Jones and aclohol consumption on the police report.

Are you familiar with the circumstances that led to Shanny getting rid of Portis? They involve embarassing acts such as wearing a title belt on the sidelines and Portis trying to strong-arm Shanny into giving him a new contract.
Shanny is coach lord and master and Portis found out who stays and who goes real quick.

Wrong.
Goodell determines the terms of his NFL probation. Playing in the NFL is a privelege and PacMan agrees to comply with the terms set forth by the league in exchange for the privelege of membership.

The grown man is supposed to keep himself from drinking. The bodyguards are there to save him from himself when possible and to shield him from the media and public eye when he ****s up.

You just made my point for me.

If Goodell's going to defer to the terms of his probation...
Jones should only be suspended AFTER his PO determines that he's violated his probation.

Police only speculated as to whether or not alcohol was involved.

I just looked at the report and saw nothing at all about alcohol being involved.

Goodell is not bound by nor does he follow the criminal courts when deciding on an action concerning an employee of the NFL.
Nobody needs to prove PacMan was drinking. If the appearance of impropriety is a condition upon which the NFL chooses to act then it is free to do so. In the case of moral terpitude, etc. the NFL is free to act.

The comish sets his own terms and conditions and metes out his own justice. This is how it goes when you accept money from someone in exchange for services rendered: you are expected to live up to the terms to which you agree.

Where do you people come up with this "oh if the police and courts can't prove he broke a law his employer can't take action"?

Jones was suspended 4 games for violating league conduct. A looming suspension will be determined if he violated part of his 3 year probation deal in GA, which is directly linked to Goodell's condition of reinstatement.

Are you suggesting Pacman is being mistreated because of color?

Hey Johnnie Cochran.

Get over it. Pacman screwed up. Where do they get these stupid nick names anyway.

Chris Rock, on n's vs. black people:

"By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cause some people that were racist thought they had license to say ****er. So, I'm done with that routine."

I think you mean IQ..

I'm fine with that, but if that's the case that should never have been a condition of his reinstatement. Deferring to the terms of his probation and then suspending him before it's been determined that he did violate his probation is unfair.

Was that a condition of his reinstatement? I'm scouring the web and all I've come up with is that the reinstatement stipulated he had to comply with the terms of his three year court-issued probation.

Another eloquent post.

Say, why don't you leave the heavy thinking to the other posters?
You never contribute anything.

CoMo,

FWIW, you can call Pacman a scumbag, a ****tard, a misanthrope. You can do what I did and use hyperbole to say that he should be drawn and quartered on the Texas Star, but it never ceases to amaze me how many people will use the distance of the Internet as well as transgressions like this to blurt out "n*****". Why don't you go down to the Field House and say that the next time you see someone who looks "ghetto"?

You act like you are so smart on here.

Your just another dumb ******

I'm speculating here, apologies if I didn't make that clear.

I don't know if there were specific terms or if there was a blanket warning to the tune of "should it become public that you committed any actions to the detriment of the image of the NFL your reinstatement will be reconsidered"

Goodell is fully empowered and feeling it. He may be taking the SCOTUS definition of pornography on what is a suspendable offense.

Hello!

Dude. In my time here I've seen Mic stand for his opinions and disagreed with plenty but 'dumb' is a label which does not fit him.

Yeah, my ability to speak with acuity on these issues is an act.
And you lobbing racial slurs, you'd never use in the company of Black people, is intelligent.

Got it ace.

ROFL

By the way... The word you wanted to use was "you're" (as in you are).
Contraction... English...nevermind.

ROFL

Awww Vail...
You do love me!!!
ROFL

Here is the thing about black people. They wait until the end of the month to pay the bills. THE NERVE!

So now it is up to you to decide what names and labels other posters may use? Ease up junior life is short and if you let every little thing piss you off you'll end up spending a lot of time in the bars.
At least that is what happened to me:)

For the same ****ing reason you hide behind your computer and speak to posters the way you do.

Hey now, let's call it 'respect' and leave it at that.

Haha...
ROFL

Apparently someone dropped a knuckle-dragger magnet in this thread. **** off.

Not true. I've had many conversations with black people about this.

There is a clear difference between the 2.

No one is saying that there aren't subgroups of any particular cross section of society that make the larger group look bad. What people are objecting to is your use of the term "****er" or its surrogates, "thug" and "ghetto".

You're easier than Sunday mornings.

Thug doesn't have to be black. I use thug all the time to describe hockey players

And you're so ****ing dumb you don't know the difference between astronomy and astrology.

What do you think about the repairs needed for the Miss Cleo telescope, genious?

And here my lily white ass was thinking it was "goon".

Whooooaaa. Hold on a minute, are suggesting the words 'ghetto' and 'thug' are now off limits?

What about the word 'boy'?

I don't buy for one minute that you deployed that term in the company of Black people and kept your front two teeth in your mouth. Spare me.

That's immaterial.
What you said was flat disrespectful. And if some of my dear friends had been within earshot...You'd probably be rinsing your mouth out right now.

When I think of thug I also think of like guys in hoodies with ball bats. Just the way I grew up

Thug lyfe

Nobody but you has objected to the term 'thug' or 'ghetto'. It is not for you to tell other people what words they may and may not use to describe their views.

I understand you have probably been kicked around your whole life due to your frail physical condition, lack of self-defense skills and overall disagreeable appearance but you need to strive to rise above it all. While you are at it get me a sandwich.

Rap Music? Sounds like it is missing a C on the front of it!

What would you know about what black people think?

Don't let that terrorist sympathizing Hamas bully you. He's not a thug, he just plays one on the Internet.

I don't. I just play one on the Internets...
*Drum Fill, Crash*

:)

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Neg rep for pacman

MS Paint?

MS paint? It's how we do it every day!
 

BMP. Style !

I would've repped you had you said "e'ryday"!

Right because I would just LET someone hit me in the mouth......anyways.....

You run your mouth in my block you get hit in the mouth, not with fists, but with shotgun blasts

And they would just ASK your permission.

ROFL

Can't we all just get along :P

And I'm gonna miss everybody.. and I'm gonna miss everybody.