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petegz28 11-23-2008 07:32 PM

Can't be mad at Thiggy.....
 
Yes, he had a less than stellar game. But everything he did wrong is coachable and really, to be expected from the likes of Thiggy. He is making the right reads, he is just inconsistent with his footwork on his delivery. He throws off his back foot a lot, which is the sign that he doesn't think he has as much time as he has. With our line who can blame him? Also, the game is moving at the fastest he has ever seen it and he is taking it stride.

One of his picks was not his fault. It was actually a great pass, just a better defensive play. The other was again, the right read but the wrong type of pass. Again, coachable. All in all, I thought despite his two picks he played well enough to maybe win, had our defense showed up.

He continues to make multiple big plays every game to Bradley\Bowe\Gonzo. Our offense is moving and the running game was good today as well.

Thiggy played strong today. The kid could of folded at the end of the first half and he came out slinging and ready to play.

This is what developing a QB looks like. Everyone wanted us to develop a QB, well....now we are. And I like it!

Mr. Flopnuts 11-23-2008 07:33 PM

I agree, the guy is going to have games like this. It's a part of the process. I do have some major concerns with his accuracy though. It's not very good. Hopefully better mechanics will work some of that out. I'm hopeful this guy can be "the guy" but I'm still very skeptical. At this point though, I'm thrilled to just be "hopeful".

petegz28 11-23-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5243607)
I agree, the guy is going to have games like this. It's a part of the process. I do have some major concerns with his accuracy though. It's not very good. Hopefully better mechanics will work some of that out. I'm hopeful this guy can be "the guy" but I'm still very skeptical. At this point though, I'm thrilled to just be "hopeful".

I think he accuracy is great, when he steps into his throws. When he tosses off the back foot he really underthrows.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-23-2008 07:36 PM

I'll take a 3 TD day anytime in an off day for a QB. The team is just bad right now. Not his fault really. He made some mistakes, but guess what all young QB's do.

MIAdragon 11-23-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5243615)
I think he accuracy is great, when he steps into his throws. When he tosses off the back foot he really underthrows.

That will come with more game time. And a better QB coach.

blueballs 11-23-2008 07:40 PM

I'm more concerned with Charles

blueballs 11-23-2008 07:42 PM

Maybe Tiki Barber can give him some pointers
then again
stay the **** away from Tiki

MIAdragon 11-23-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 5243634)
I'm more concerned with Charles

His lack of touches or what?

Pasta Little Brioni 11-23-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5243615)
I think he accuracy is great, when he steps into his throws. When he tosses off the back foot he really underthrows.

I think he is trying to be like his idol Favre. Tyler can really gun it when he steps into it, but some of his throws are quite frustrating. He's getting what was a bad offense into the endzone multiple times a week, so I'm not about to complain too much.

SAUTO 11-23-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5243639)
His lack of touches or what?

i would assume he meant the fumbles

RustShack 11-23-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5243639)
His lack of touches or what?

I'm concerned about his durability and our Oline.

blueballs 11-23-2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5243639)
His lack of touches or what?

Barber had a horrible fumbling problem
and starting holding the ball in wierd way
but it worked

KCJohnny 11-23-2008 07:55 PM

I did not see the game. Why did Quinn Gray come in? Is Thiggy hurt or did he get yanked?

blueballs 11-23-2008 07:58 PM

54-24
4 minutes or less to play
or something like that

Tribal Warfare 11-23-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 5243690)
I did not see the game. Why did Quinn Gray come in? Is Thiggy hurt or did he get yanked?

They yanked him

SAUTO 11-23-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5243759)
They yanked him

you act as though it was because of his play. not true IMO

Tribal Warfare 11-23-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5243800)
you act as though it was because of his play. not true IMO



huh? Proctor asked if they yanked him from the game and I replied

Mecca 11-23-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5243812)
huh? Proctor asked if they yanked him from the game and I replied

You bashed the savior son watch out...

jidar 11-23-2008 08:24 PM

not exactly.
It was garbage time

SAUTO 11-23-2008 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar (Post 5243817)
not exactly.
It was garbage time

THIS, tribal warfare you should stick to "i dont like him" and thats it

Deberg_1990 11-23-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5243759)
They yanked him

haha

Im still not sure why they yanked him? The Chiefs are 1-10. What are they saving Thiggy for??




KCJohnny, they yanked him with like 4 or 5 minutes left in the game. It wasnt because of his performance.

RustShack 11-23-2008 08:30 PM

I think they are just trying to see if they have anything in Gray. The game was way out of reach, it was probably just them trying to keep Thigpen healthy.

SAUTO 11-23-2008 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5243840)
I think they are just trying to see if they have anything in Gray. The game was way out of reach, it was probably just them trying to keep Thigpen healthy.

this

Reerun_KC 11-23-2008 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5243598)
But everything he did wrong is coachable and really, to be expected from the likes of Thiggy.

I agree, we need coaching despartely..

KCJohnny 11-23-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5243832)
haha

Im still not sure why they yanked him? The Chiefs are 1-10. What are they saving Thiggy for??




KCJohnny, they yanked him with like 4 or 5 minutes left in the game. It wasnt because of his performance.

Thanks, pal. I was concerned about QBbC or an injury. Its great to hear that Gray marched them right down the field and scored even if it was against a prevent D in garbage time.

I know we were in catch up mode, but 31 points and 475 yards of total offense is still pretty good. That sounds like the 2004 Chiefs. It would be a scathing indictment on the braintrust at One Arrowhead Drive if we have been sitting on a nuclear powered offense all year and didn't know it. I'm not saying we are on the way to being the 2004 Chiefs, but 31 should be good enough to win. Our offensive output has been going up, up, up.

I am not going to comment on the _efense since this is a Thiggy thread. I think two mobile, athletic QBs running a spread Offense is a good harbinger for the future of the Chiefs potential scoring output, at least for 2009.

Red Beans 11-23-2008 08:52 PM

I think the reason his accuracy is off is because he's trying to make a ton of throws while he's on the run. 3 td's, 2 picks, 1 fumble lost. The kid plays hard and he's going to make mistakes, but when you score 31 points you should win the ball game.

Mecca 11-23-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans (Post 5243930)
I think the reason his accuracy is off is because he's trying to make a ton of throws while he's on the run. 3 td's, 2 picks, 1 fumble lost. The kid plays hard and he's going to make mistakes, but when you score 31 points you should win the ball game.

24...that last TD was the Bills just being like yea we'd like to leave now.

SAUTO 11-23-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5243938)
24...that last TD was the Bills just being like yea we'd like to leave now.

so now you've changed the final score to 24 not 31 wow you carry ALOT of cloutROFL

petegz28 11-24-2008 10:36 AM

Bottom line is, Thiggy's bad game was still good enough for us to win had we anything that looked like a defense. Yes he made some mistakes and he is going too. That is part of developing a QB.

I don't give a **** if you drafted a guy #1 at QB, he would have these kinds of games. Even pros have these kinds of games.

People need to get behind Thigpen and support him. The kid can play.

StcChief 11-24-2008 10:41 AM

Thiggy continues to improve and look like an NFL QB. Seems like his overthows etc where trying to "make it happen". No complaints on his play or heart. The go for it run, fumble reach was unfortunate....

Reerun_KC 11-24-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5245147)
Bottom line is, Trent's bad game was still good enough for us to win had we anything that looked like a defense. Yes he made some mistakes and he is going too. That is part of growing with a QB.

I don't give a **** if you drafted a guy #1 at QB, he would have these kinds of games. Even pros have these kinds of games.

People need to get behind Trent and support him. The guy can play.

FYP to reflect Trents first couple of years.... Amazing we still cant fix that defense, even with Gods gift to the Tampa Bay Bucs and Gun...

CoMoChief 11-24-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny (Post 5243690)
I did not see the game. Why did Quinn Gray come in? Is Thiggy hurt or did he get yanked?

Game was out of reach at that point. No need to hurt a starter, might also as well see what Gray could do. At that point it doesn't hurt to send the backup in IMO, esp with the ???? we have at that position anyway.

talastan 11-24-2008 10:53 AM

Thiggy put up decent numbers despite having the second worst preformance this year. All part of developing a QB. I'm just curious to see as how he or the coaches react to this last game. If we come out too conservative in our gameplan, or Thiggy freezes than I'll be concerned. But if we come back out firing on all cylinders, than I'll still be pulling for the kid.

Micjones 11-24-2008 11:12 AM

Thigpen's two interceptions were unfortunate.
He was trying to stick a couple balls in there when he maybe should've checked down or thrown the ball away. No reason to go apeshit over that. Young QB's are going to make those kinds of mistakes.

I'm impressed that he didn't let it get the best of him.
He came out and threw another TD.

The fumble was a bit suspect in my mind.
I honestly think he was down.

All in all, he still had a 3 TD day.
I'm still behind him and I think he could still lock up that job next year.
Just depends on how things go the rest of the way.

Mr. Arrowhead 11-24-2008 11:15 AM

He gonna make mistakes when he has to score a TD on every possession because of our swiss cheese defense

Skip Towne 11-24-2008 11:37 AM

I dunno. Claythan says Thiggy isn't any good. And he works for that genious Nick Athan.

chiefsfan1963 11-24-2008 11:42 AM

I vote to keep Tyler as our lead QB next season and draft a QB in the later rounds.

SAUTO 11-24-2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5245147)
Bottom line is, Thiggy's bad game was still good enough for us to win had we anything that looked like a defense. Yes he made some mistakes and he is going too. That is part of developing a QB.

I don't give a **** if you drafted a guy #1 at QB, he would have these kinds of games. Even pros have these kinds of games.

People need to get behind Thigpen and support him. The kid can play
.

post of the day

Micjones 11-24-2008 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963 (Post 5245336)
I vote to keep Tyler as our lead QB next season and draft a QB in the later rounds.

I'm fine with this team drafting a QB.
I just think if he can continue to play well over the last 5 games of the season we don't have to go there with our #1.

SAUTO 11-24-2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5245366)
I'm fine with this team drafting a QB.
I just think if he can continue to play well over the last 5 games of the season we don't have to go there with our #1.

i've been saying this same thing for 2 weeks

talastan 11-24-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5245366)
I'm fine with this team drafting a QB.
I just think if he can continue to play well over the last 5 games of the season we don't have to go there with our #1.

QFT!! Let's wait to evaluate him at the END of the season. I think that if he keeps putting up two or three TD's a game, and is able to keep his TD/Int ratio in check we may have stumbled on to something special. :D

Then we can use our top 5 pick in April to get a good pass rusher so we can actually get some help for our D-line, and DB's.

Micjones 11-24-2008 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan (Post 5245521)
QFT!! Let's wait to evaluate him at the END of the season. I think that if he keeps putting up two or three TD's a game, and is able to keep his TD/Int ratio in check we may have stumbled on to something special. :D

Then we can use our top 5 pick in April to get a good pass rusher so we can actually get some help for our D-line, and DB's.

I really hate to keep entrusting high draft picks to this staff, but hopefully they will be relieved of their duties come January.

Mecca 11-24-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5245244)
Thigpen's two interceptions were unfortunate.
He was trying to stick a couple balls in there when he maybe should've checked down or thrown the ball away. No reason to go apeshit over that. Young QB's are going to make those kinds of mistakes.

I'm impressed that he didn't let it get the best of him.
He came out and threw another TD.

The fumble was a bit suspect in my mind.
I honestly think he was down.

All in all, he still had a 3 TD day.
I'm still behind him and I think he could still lock up that job next year.
Just depends on how things go the rest of the way.

I'd love to hear how the fumble was suspect he just flat lost the ball without being touched.

JuicesFlowing 11-24-2008 02:27 PM

We played arena ball and got crushed by 23 points. The offense has been pulling it's weight the past 4 games, the defense has not.

WilliamTheIrish 11-24-2008 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5245244)
Thigpen's two interceptions were unfortunate.
He was trying to stick a couple balls in there when he maybe should've checked down or thrown the ball away. No reason to go apeshit over that. Young QB's are going to make those kinds of mistakes.

I'm impressed that he didn't let it get the best of him.
He came out and threw another TD.

The fumble was a bit suspect in my mind.
I honestly think he was down.

All in all, he still had a 3 TD day.
I'm still behind him and I think he could still lock up that job next year.

Just depends on how things go the rest of the way.

They were more than unfortunate. They were two very crucial TO's that turned what was a close contest into a blowout. You have to hold him accountable for that. Those were bad throws.

And on the fumble he was not down. He went in head first and lost the ball against the ground. Yes, I realize he tripped. Sometimes weird bounces of the ball happen.

Again let me reiterate that I do not hold Thigpen responsible for the loss. He is what he is. A 7th round draft choice from Coastal Carolina.

But as for those two INT: They were the spark that led to the five alrm fire.

MIAdragon 11-24-2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5245731)
I'd love to hear how the fumble was suspect he just flat lost the ball without being touched.

It happens IIRC Vick as well as Cullpepper doing it on multiple occasions.


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