Take a QB in the 1st round next year?
 

Said Dolphins LB Akin Ayodele of Thigpen, who finished with 320 yards passing, “I like him. He’s an athletic quarterback. Brodie Croyle is going to watch his back next year. There’s going to be a battle for the starting position.”


When the opposition starts to give your young QB props, you have to a moment to really consider if you need to look for his replacement. I'd really try to get Rich Gannon to come in this offseason as a consultant and work with Thigpen for a few weeks. I'd ask him to go over film and work with him on the field to work through the nuances of the game, particularly executing the boot which Thigpen hasn't mastered yet.

Thiggy's future with us is going to depend on who the offensive coordinator is. I doubt Gailey is back just because I think a new GM will want to hire his own coaches.

Thigpen's strengths might not be the strengths the new offensive coordinator looks for in a QB, and he may want more of a traditional guy and/or want to build from scratch with a new QB he can mold into a star.

I agree with you. I just question if it is the right move.

Brody Croyle needs to watch his back? If we go into camp next year with a battle at the QB position between Thigpen and Croyle.....I'll be pissed. Croyle has proven that he doesn't deserve a spot in the battle.

Agreed. The Dolphins guy doesn't know that Croyle is done in KC. His thoughts on Thigpen, the QB he actually played against, are very interesting though.

the QB class is not strong enough this year... I don't like stafford as much as a lot of other people do. Although, if we drafted bradford, you wouldn't hear me complain too much.

but I say OL/DL for the first pick

I think we should trade down and get a WR and OL in the middle of the first round. A QBOTF is useless without a solid supporting cast.

The real story of the nite was the offensive line. Albert was amazing. Even when he missed a block (Thigpen's TD run) he would recover and seal. Waters was driving guys 10 yards backwards with ease and...

How about Damien McInosh (i'm sorry for spelling it wrong) with 2 pancakes on the same play???? That was awesome, and very rare to see from that guy. He usually can't block to save his life

If we draft a WR with our first pick Im going to shoot someone.

well some people on ESPN say Tebow is a 3rd rounder, maybe we can get WR Crabtree from Texas Tech and a lineman and pickup Tebow in the 3rd and run this goofy offense with Tebow and Thiggy,lol
im sold on Bradford,im sold on Crabtree at WR im also sold on Harrel from Texas Tech,spelling might be wrong also i think our franchise QB is just a small trade away in Colt Brennan, i prefer Quinn but Brennan can be had for a cheaper price maybe a way to let LJ go???

IF the New GM, HC and OC want to build a franchise around a 1st round QB, then so be it... I dont think they have to build it around Thigpen if they dont seem fit. I would like to see them allow them to battle it out in training camp. But if they want to scap this whole gimmic offense and install a pro style offense with a mix of the spread, then fine..

But to sit here and speculate when we dont even know whom the GM or staff is going to be is just silly... Its more of a pissing match between the 1st round QB fans and the Thigpen fans....

Which I am sure we will have plenty of pissing and moaning until the draft about Thigpen and his lack of anything that resembles accuracy...

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Wow... just wow.

I don't see much of a difference between Stafford, Bradford, Sanchez and Tebow. I say draft 1 of them at the top of the 2nd as I doubt all four will be picked by then.

I might draft a QB, but I wouldn't go there with my #1.

Nobody wants to waste a No. 2 pick in the 1st round on a WR, but we need to trade down and get a few mid first round players to fill gaps on the OL, DL, and get that third threat at WR

any shred of credibility that u had before is now lost

tebow won't be a quarterback in the NFL.... he's most likely going to be a Chris Cooley type.

If the chiefs draft him as a QBOTF i'm going to start cutting my wrists....

I guess I'm in both. I really like Bradford and would be good with taking him. I'm also a fan of trading down and taking a MLB, OLB or DE in the first.

If we are taking any QB named Colt, it better be Colt McCoy next year. but it all really depends on who the GM is, who the new HC is, ect.. I hope that Cowher gets the GM/HC/Prez like Mike Holmgrem. That would also change our draft. The chiefs have so many holes to fill that the draft could go any way

Recent history says that isn't a good plan.

He throws too well and is too good of a leader to not get a shot at QB in the league.

Tebow has a horrendous throwing motion and plays in a run based spread option offense...please don't get enamored with college stats or mobile QB's.

Chiefs history?

Some people say that lizard-people exist on earth in an intra-dimensional way that is naked to the human eye, but I don't take them seriously.

Care to guess what else I'll not be taking seriously in this thread?:evil:

Recent NFL history...who's the last 2nd or 3rd round pick that succeeded at QB?

The answer is Drew Brees but the pick he was taken at is a 1st round pick now, so I'm not even sure that should count and if you don't count him it goes back a long way.

I don't care if it's pretty, just complete it. I don't love the guy as our next QB, but I'm not down on him like some people are. If he test out well, I would spend a 2nd.

Lizard People were on the ballot here. They should be taken seriously.

He's every bit as big of a project as Thigpen is......bad throwing mechanics, shotgun all the time, spread run based option at that...

It's just not a good idea.

As long as Herm is fired I will put my trust in the new GM and HC to make the decision on the QB position and all of the other positions. I am not going to cry and whine like others if I perceive them to make a mistake at least for the first year or so. We have to give them time to rebuild this team and that is going to require some patience to undue the cluster **** that Carl and Herm have left behind.

True, the odds are better in round 1 as about half the starting QB's in the league are former 1st rounders, but it can be done other ways.

Well maybe they'll actually put players in a position to play to their strengths unlike this current staff.

WOW. Seriously what is the point of drafting Tebow when we already have Thigpen who has proven himself as a starter, than waste a pick on another spread option QB. I would rather see the chiefs draft a tight end than another spread option qb... dumb idea

Right now it seems to either be 1st rounder or some straight up luck move, there are more successful 6th rounders than 2nd and 3rd rounders.

Well Tebow could probably be a tight end he's about as big as Gonzalez is.

I think he is a much more accurate QB then Thiggy.

I'm not sure you'd find many people that would agree with you on this. He has awful mechanics and takes all day to release the ball.

That wouldn't be saying much and that's pretty debatable when you realize what system he's in.

I am counting on it.

As far as the QB position goes if they chose Thigpen that is fine but if they decide to draft a QB that is fine as well. I think we all need to get behind whatever decisions they make for the first year or so and put our trust in their decisions.

I think my favorite story was I flipped on 810 and Petro said Gunther was going off on Pollard who responded "I don't know what the hell you want me to do anyway"

Damn! Sorry I missed THAT. That's premium popcorn!

So do you think Sanchez will be there at 34?

LMAO

When was that?

I agree. I will become the new senisblechiefsfan and bury my head in the sand and tell the rest of the board to shut up and keep thier mouth shut. You have to give the new GM and coach some time.

It was at around 11:30 this morning, he said they've been asking Pollard to do shit he can't do for years. And Gunther was dropping a bunch of MF's on him just going off and his response was that.

Yeah, Mecca; fill us in. If Mark declares, where does he fall and what are our chances of picking him up if Detroit takes Matt?

I don't because I don't think Sanchez comes out. I think he stays for his senior year. I actually think Bradford my stay in as well.

LMAO

I don't know who is more pathetic Gun or Pollard.

I'll tell you right now; Gun, and that other god damned motor-mouth need to be shown the door.

That other guy is even more obnoxious than Gun. As a player, I would get tired of that mother****er very, very quickly.

It's partially Chiefs stubborness did you know that Pollard is as big as the Colts LB's? This staff has no idea how to put players in positions to play to their strengths, Pollard is not good in coverage yet they ask him to do that all the time..how's this make sense?

He wouldn't last that long if he declared but if he got 2nd round he isn't coming out because he could be the 1st pick next year.

So tell me folks, will this place meltdown if the new GM and staff decide that Thigpen is nothing more than a backup and they want to draft what they feel the the BEST QB for thier system and develop him?

I know there are alot of folks here wanting Thigpen to succeed and wanting to have his childern... I am just curious what people are going to do...

I have always thought that Pollard would make a decent LB....

I've brought this up...there's going to be some serious humor in a few months. The day Herm and his staff is fired is the day Thigpens future takes a serious hit.

Are you serious?

Well I'm not one of those people. I'll be pumped that they'd have the balls to make that pick.

I like Tyler as our backup (and starter to bridge the gap for the roookie next year). He has some tools but has a completely unorthodox system adapted to him because he's not good in a normal set.... What's that tell you about him?

It doesn't make sense that is why they all need to be shit canned.

There'll be some Homer-Meltdown for sure, but most informed fans will be pleased.


Depending upon who the New Crew decide to draft.
Now THERE will be your melt-down.

I am leaving it up to the new GM and new coach. What ever they say.

I stated this earlier in this thread I am going to put my full trust in the new GM and HC.

You know the same question could be put to the other side as well. What if they pass on a QB in the draft and have Thigpen as the franchise QB? What will those people do?

I imagine it won't be pretty.

A guy who takes shitty angles, and has no idea how to wrap up a ball carrier should not be a LB. I think he should be our backup SS.

Yeah suds I am serious and it was a serious question.. I have been a member here long enough to know how this place operates...

I just wanted to see whom was going to meltdown when/if a 1st round QB is picked and Thigpen is sent either packing or to the bench...

I appreciate Thigpen and all he has done, but your not going to win a superbowl with a qb as inaccurate as he is...

That's the difference between us and a team like the Colts, they can teach a guy to improve at those things, our guys never get better.

Far enough, It just seemed that he would be better suited there... This would of been a good year to try him out there and see if he could of been coached up to be a productive player...

But then again that was asking to much by the coaching staff...

I agree, I am not saying the kid cant be an asset to the team... Heck maybe he could even be used as a Wes Welker type of player on 3rd downs?

Just a thought?

If we pass on Stafford or Bradford it will be a huge mistake. The offer that the Vikes made for Quinn is a good indication that we could get good value for either of them if Thiggy turns out to be "the guy".

I would agree with you if we pass on Stafford I am not sold on Bradford at all.

I think CP would melt down more if they passed on one of them compared to if they drafted one of them and let Thigpen be the backup or cut Thigpen.

Bradford probably isn't a good idea for us unless we are going to be a ball controlled short passing team, in this environment when December rolls around his ball would die in the cold.

I really dont get lets not draft one in the 1st, lets get one in the 2nd crowd. Only two 2nd QBs have ever won the Super Bowl and one of them was traded for a 1st. You can get franchise defensive players later in the draft than a franchise qb. Its basically proven over time.

Tom Brady was considered to have a weak arm, but he's found a way to sling the ball around the NE cold and wind.

I agree completely. I included Bradford because some people are enamored with him. I am not, and wouldn't be upset if we passed on him as I said I would. But if we pass on Stafford, I will lose it. I'm not Ms. Cleo, but I think Stafford is going to be a great pro, and with the weapons we have, I think he could turn out to be the best QB the Chiefs have had in Since Lenny.

Mecca has trouble understanding that there is a middle ground between a bazooka for an arm like JaMarcus Russell and a noodle arm like Pennington.

Tom Brady is 40lbs heavier today than he was on draft day....

Bradford is going to have to put on weight, too, or he's going to be Croyle v.2.

the Tuck rule?

This is a fact. The #s don't lie. Sure there's been a couple QBs found later in the draft, but it is such a longshot.

Brady now weighs in at 250lbs?

Didn't Archie Manning have one more son?

There is hope for Pollard.

If you weren't aware Tom Brady weighed about 185lbs on draft day, if he had been bigger he probably would have gone higher.

Boy, he lost a lot of weight between the combine and draft day then...

Here's a picture of him at the combine - with his height (top number) and weight (bottom number) written on a greaseboard.

211 is quite a difference from 185.

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I never thought of it that way! Even if you don't want him, grab him anyway for the value; good show, and something no one ever brings up.

REP!

Meeeeeeeeee NEITHER !

Agreed. At this point, it's Matt and Matt only. If Mark declares; even better.

DCS suspects that you are, in fact, Ms. Cleo, and DCS wants his Pick 3 numbers immediately! :D

Exactly, and that's been my knock on that kid and McCoy too since day one.
I've already suffered through a skinny, bag-o-bones with a supposed "great arm who holds all the passing records at blah blah blah", and so on and so forth.
DCS says:
PASS!!!!