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talastan 12-23-2008 05:13 PM

Aaron Curry...your opinion.
 
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com


I was looking at the nfldraftcountdown.com mock and as of the 15th it has us picking Curry up at #3. According to the description it says he is capable of playing inside or outside in either a 4-3 or 3-4. Just curious as to what the local Planet draft gurus think of this guy?

RustShack 12-23-2008 05:14 PM

Penis.

blueballs 12-23-2008 05:14 PM

spicy

The Franchise 12-23-2008 05:15 PM

Balls.

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:15 PM

He's fine but do you really value a LB that much for a 4-3 system?

RustShack 12-23-2008 05:15 PM

E = MCvagina

DJ's left nut 12-23-2008 05:15 PM

I think the idea of taking what amounts to a OLB that played in a weak conference with a top 3 pick is abhorrent.

LiL stumppy 12-23-2008 05:15 PM

wouldn't mind. wither way we need a LB/DE

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5324046)
E = MCvagina

You've been watching show me your genitals...

RustShack 12-23-2008 05:18 PM

ROLB-Curry
MLB-Spikes/Cushing
LOLB-Jonson

Sounds good but I don't know if I would draft Curry that high. Imagine if we drafted those two, picked up Haynesworth and Peppers/Suggs, AND had a competent coaching staff! Or we could sign Vilma too and then use the second on like Mack or another Olinemen. Oh the endless possibilities with our almost endless cash supply!

RustShack 12-23-2008 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324050)
You've been watching show me your genitals...

Have you ever been high as ****?

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:19 PM

We all need to stop with this idea of signing premier FA's.

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5324064)
Have you ever been high as ****?

Hey that guy rules, that's all I gotta say.

aturnis 12-23-2008 05:20 PM

Derrick Johnson
Jonathan Vilma
and
Arron Curry?

Looks like our secondary and LBers would be set.

DE in the 2nd?

RustShack 12-23-2008 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324067)
We all need to stop with this idea of signing premier FA's.

I know I know... but I would be OK with signing one young one such as Haynesworth. Then again, the chances are great in him giving up and not playing after they get paid... :(

Skip Towne 12-23-2008 05:20 PM

Ass

RustShack 12-23-2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324069)
Hey that guy rules, that's all I gotta say.

Hes just a regular everyday normal guy.

aturnis 12-23-2008 05:21 PM

Why no premier FA's?

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:22 PM

I personally don't think it's a good idea to take a LB that high for a team in this position. If you notice alot of the good teams in the league have mid round picks at that position while their high picks were used on the line and secondary.

aturnis 12-23-2008 05:26 PM

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eazyb81 12-23-2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324084)
I personally don't think it's a good idea to take a LB that high for a team in this position. If you notice alot of the good teams in the league have mid round picks at that position while their high picks were used on the line and secondary.

But you would be fine with taking a safety, which would be highest a safety has been drafted in modern history.

ROFL

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5324133)
But you would be fine with taking a safety, which would be highest a safety has been drafted in modern history.

ROFL

Laron Landry was such a shitty pick.

Alot more good teams in the league have 1st round safeties than they do 1st round LB's.

The Eagles have NEVER used a 1st round pick on a LB since Reid took the job, how about the Giants they don't have any.

eazyb81 12-23-2008 05:40 PM

If you watch him play, it's easy to see that Curry is a beast. He is a prototype SAM backer that will blanket TEs in coverage, make tackles in the open field, and create havoc in the backfield on blitzes.

I don't think LB is one of our biggest needs, so if you're a guy that likes to draft based on needs then he probably doesn't appeal to you. But there's a reason every respected draft expert says Curry is the best LB prospect in years and has him at the top of their board right now.

eazyb81 12-23-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324139)
Laron Landry was such a shitty pick.

Alot more good teams in the league have 1st round safeties than they do 1st round LB's.

The Eagles have NEVER used a 1st round pick on a LB since Reid took the job, how about the Giants they don't have any.

You just tried to say that good teams don't draft LBs early

Quote:

If you notice alot of the good teams in the league have mid round picks at that position while their high picks were used on the line and secondary.
but you bring up Landry as a reason to draft a safety? Were the Redskins good this year?

The way you twist arguments is comical.

The Franchise 12-23-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5324140)
If you watch him play, it's easy to see that Curry is a beast. He is a prototype SAM backer that will blanket TEs in coverage, make tackles in the open field, and create havoc in the backfield on blitzes.

I don't think LB is one of our biggest needs, so if you're a guy that likes to draft based on needs then he probably doesn't appeal to you. But there's a reason every respected draft expert says Curry is the best LB prospect in years and has him at the top of their board right now.

I stopped reading after the bolded part.

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5324147)
You just tried to say that good teams don't draft LBs early



but you bring up Landry as a reason to draft a safety? Were the Redskins good this year?

The way you twist arguments is comical.

LB is a devalued position in the league unless you play 3-4, I figured you knew this.

And just throwing out one of the last safeties that went that high, how about Donte Whitner does he suck?

eazyb81 12-23-2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5324148)
I stopped reading after the bolded part.

I should have said OLB, but LB in general shouldn't be a huge need for us when we're healthy with DJ, Demorrio, and Donnie Edwards.

Where would you rank it?

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:44 PM

About as bad as the Dline...

eazyb81 12-23-2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324153)
LB is a devalued position in the league unless you play 3-4, I figured you knew this.

And just throwing out one of the last safeties that went that high, how about Donte Whitner does he suck?

Does Urlacher suck? Does Patrick Willis suck? We can play this game all day.

You brought up the fact that good teams don't draft LBs early, then said Landry was a good pick even though the Redskins suck. Now you're bringing up Whitner when the Bills suck to. Your arguments don't make sense.

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:48 PM

Look my argument isn't that Curry sucks, that's the issue here. My argument is you can get a productive player at that position later in the draft.

High LB's are generally good because LB is like RB it's an easy position for a young guy to step into. But many many lower round LB's are good too, the Colts have made a living doing it.

I don't think it's worth a top 5 pick.

RustShack 12-23-2008 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5324156)
I should have said OLB, but LB in general shouldn't be a huge need for us when we're healthy with DJ, Demorrio, and Donnie Edwards.

Where would you rank it?

Are you seriously content with our LB's?

:doh!:

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5324183)
Are you seriously content with our LB's?

:doh!:

They're bad, but I also don't think you build your team around your LB's unless of course you're 3-4, if they switched to that then I'd change my view.

eazyb81 12-23-2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5324183)
Are you seriously content with our LB's?

:doh!:

Content? Hell no. But I'm not content with many positions on this team, that's why we have won 2 games this season.

eazyb81 12-23-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324177)
Look my argument isn't that Curry sucks, that's the issue here. My argument is you can get a productive player at that position later in the draft.

High LB's are generally good because LB is like RB it's an easy position for a young guy to step into. But many many lower round LB's are good too, the Colts have made a living doing it.

I don't think it's worth a top 5 pick.

Ideally I would agree with you. But what if he grades out as the best player? I don't think we should just take a DE, even if he graded out lower, just because you're not supposed to take a LB that high. Do you think the teams that passed on Urlacher or Willis regret passing on them?

I desperately want either Stafford or Bradford, but if we don't get one of those two I'm not sold on who to pick. It could be Orakpo, Curry, Mays, Crabtree, Smith, Jenkins, etc. There's not a clear pick, at least at this point. But from what I've seen from Curry, he definitely should be in the discussion.

Mecca 12-23-2008 05:55 PM

About the nicest thing I can say for drafting Curry is it's a safe pick there's about 0 percent chance he'd be horrible.

The Franchise 12-23-2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324211)
About the nicest thing I can say for drafting Curry is it's a safe pick there's about 0 percent chance he'd be horrible.

I don't trust the term "safe pick".

Mecca 12-23-2008 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5324250)
I don't trust the term "safe pick".

LOL, if you see the Chiefs taking a OT or Aaron Curry with the 3rd pick they've gone the safe route.

dj56dt58 12-23-2008 07:54 PM

The only way I want a LB that high is if he is a Rey Lewis/Brian Urlacher, or Derrick Thomas(who was drafted as an end)

Fire Me Boy! 12-23-2008 08:07 PM

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damaticous 12-23-2008 08:14 PM

I like curry. It tastes good on my bbq, and most foods. :)

bowener 12-23-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324252)
LOL, if you see the Chiefs taking a OT or Aaron Curry with the 3rd pick they've gone the safe route.

How good do you think Angelo Crowell will be returning from his knee injury? Would he be worth signing? I would think in a LB heavy draft and after his injuries and low number of starts he would come cheaper than most, it just depends on how much he has dropped off now I guess.

KCrockaholic 12-23-2008 08:53 PM

Curry looks pretty awesome, perfect size, and he plays strong. I wouldnt mind if we drafted him

eazyb81 12-23-2008 08:59 PM

The main problem with Curry is that he's a weak human being.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIsvP0FEeTo

Mecca 12-23-2008 09:02 PM

Hey that still isn't as cool as the Adrian Wilson video.

Mecca 12-23-2008 09:11 PM

The only thing I'd really question with Curry is he's about 6'2 or 6'3 and probably weighs 255lbs he's very muscular, he's not extremely fluid or quick to flip his hips because of how muscular he is, now I know he's a LB and not a corner but that could hurt him occasionally if he's going to play over the TE in coverage.

bowener 12-23-2008 09:13 PM

Mecca,
you are not applying yourself to my question about Angelo Crowell. I do not appreciate it. I understand times are hard, so if I throw some Casino cash at you, will you answer it then? I just want to know if he is washed up after this knee injury or if he is worth giving a cheap contract to and hoping he hasn't lost much. I know he had limited starts before, but I think he (was)/is better than D. Williams.

eazyb81 12-23-2008 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5324745)
The only thing I'd really question with Curry is he's about 6'2 or 6'3 and probably weighs 255lbs he's very muscular, he's not extremely fluid or quick to flip his hips because of how muscular he is, now I know he's a LB and not a corner but that could hurt him occasionally if he's going to play over the TE in coverage.

I completely disagree with you on this, and I'm not sure you can find any draft guys that would agree with you. Curry is very fluid and natural in the way he plays.

I don't want to keep going over this, but the guy is basically the prototype in what you look for in a LB. I bet he'll run in the 4.5s, so pair that with his size, strenght, and play in coverage and it's easy to see why everyone is talking about him right now.

EDIT:

It looks like you just pulled that from this:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...aron-Curry.php

Mecca 12-23-2008 09:17 PM

I actually read a report that said he was a bit short...let me pull the one from DC so you can critique that.

Strengths:
Possesses a terrific blend of size and bulk...Exceptional speed, quickness and athleticism...Very physical and tough...Excellent strength and power...Extremely aggressive...Outstanding instincts and awareness...Offers a lot of versatility...Reliable tackler who will deliver the big hit...Really uses his hands well...Does a nice job of taking on and shedding blockers...Superb pass rusher and blitzer...Has sideline-to-sideline range...Will attack and fill against the run...Comfortable in space...Can match up and make plays in coverage...Has a lot of experience...Durable and never missed a game due to injury...Smart...Hard worker...Team leader...Super productive.

Weaknesses:
Can be too aggressive at times and will overpursue...Not quite as tall as you'd prefer...Pass rush repertoire is limited...Marginal change of direction skills...May have some trouble when it comes to recognition in coverage....Is not particularly fluid when he is forced to flip his hips.

Notes:
Won the Butkus Award, which honors the nation's top linebacker, as a senior...Brother Patrick Pinkney was a quarterback at East Carolina...Was a four-year starter in the ACC...In 2007 he took all four of his interceptions back for touchdowns, with an average return of 56.5 yards...Could play outside or inside in either a 4-3 or 3-4 defensive scheme...A marvelous all-around player who is effective in every aspect of the game...As good as any linebacker prospect to come along in recent memory...A legitimate Top 10 talent who should be one of the most highly rated players available for the 2009 NFL Draft.

The only one I've personally noticed is the flipping his hips but that comes from his muscularity I believe.

aturnis 12-23-2008 09:22 PM

Caught.

RINGLEADER 12-23-2008 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5324074)
Derrick Johnson
Jonathan Vilma
and
Arron Curry?

Looks like our secondary and LBers would be set.

DE in the 2nd?

I'd like to think that a new GM will have better luck at picking defense in the draft but at this point we should lean on free agency and our huge cap space to buy our way to respectability on defense.

bowener 12-23-2008 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 5324854)
I'd like to think that a new GM will have better luck at picking defense in the draft but at this point we should lean on free agency and our huge cap space to buy our way to respectability on defense.

I like this idea. As was discussed somewhere on CP, maybe in here, it is easier to build a good D faster than an O. This would let us draft for the future of our O while plugging in vets to help the young ones improve, then we can start drafting to fill the needs on D as the offense comes into its own.


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