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Skip Towne 01-03-2009 12:44 PM

****KU vs Tenn****
 
KU a slight favorite but I'm not betting on them. 1 PM ESPN

Mr. Arrowhead 01-03-2009 12:45 PM

it will be a good test for KU, Tenn is very long and athletic. Its gonna be a fun game to watch

leviw 01-03-2009 12:55 PM

Must win.

At home.
Still lacking a marquee victory.
Running the risk of being on the bubble for Big 12 season starts.

Tiger's Fan 01-03-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351684)
Must win.

At home.
Still lacking a marquee victory.
Running the risk of being on the bubble for Big 12 season starts.

Hardly a must win. Team of frosh and sophmores. Haven't even started conference play yet. Sorry, we're not winning another title this year. This is just another building block game.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5351687)
Hardly a must win. Team of frosh and sophmores. Haven't even started conference play yet. Sorry, we're not winning another title this year. This is just another building block game.

Maybe not a must win but it is certainly time to get serious.

leviw 01-03-2009 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5351687)
Hardly a must win. Team of frosh and sophmores. Haven't even started conference play yet. Sorry, we're not winning another title this year. This is just another building block game.

As a young team, you have to recognize the importance of games like this for the same reasons I listed.

Must win.

leviw 01-03-2009 01:10 PM

Vols totally lost on defense.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 01:12 PM

Run their ass off Kansas.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:15 PM

what is the deal on pick fouls?

it's like the officials talk to each other and they put the word out to look for fouls on our picks?

that last one was called and we didn't even set it yet!! :cuss:

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:17 PM

Mario Little sighting!!!!!

leviw 01-03-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351729)
Mario Little sighting!!!!!

Two boards already.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 01:20 PM

MORNINGSTAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pablo 01-03-2009 01:21 PM

This is pretty damn impressive so far.

chiefsfan987 01-03-2009 01:23 PM

Hawks looking good early.

Pablo 01-03-2009 01:24 PM

25-9 KU with 11 minutes left in the first half.

Aldrich has been a beast so far, I'm lovin it.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351732)
Two boards already.

we could really use another rebounder in there to help aldrich.

the morris kids play small

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:25 PM

we need to draw more fouls

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:26 PM

morris airball :shake:

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351751)
we could really use another rebounder in there to help aldrich.

the morris kids play small

Little is too little.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:26 PM

aldrich!!!!

Pablo 01-03-2009 01:27 PM

Aldrich is an absolute defensive stud..

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:27 PM

morris is a dumbass

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88 (Post 5351761)
Aldrich is an absolute defensive stud..

No fouls on him yet either.

leviw 01-03-2009 01:30 PM

Zone defenses kill Bill Self teams.

Pablo 01-03-2009 01:31 PM

Sherron with the fancy moves and no finish....imagine that.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:32 PM

we aren't used to the Tennessee athleticism ... the passes we have been making don't work against these guys.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351769)
Zone defenses kill Bill Self teams.

because they can never shoot worth a shit

leviw 01-03-2009 01:34 PM

Sherron has made about four moves today against 2-3 guys at a time that have been ridiculous.

Pablo 01-03-2009 01:34 PM

And Collins with 5 quick points...

the Talking Can 01-03-2009 01:36 PM

oh sherron i heart you

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351769)
Zone defenses kill Bill Self teams.

They did't last year. Two guys over 40% from 3 point land. And Collins close behind.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:36 PM

we have to stay focused and answer any Vol push

leviw 01-03-2009 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5351786)
They did't last year. Two guys over 40% from 3 point land. And Collins close behind.

All of those threes didn't come against a zone, did they?

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:38 PM

we just get killed by the loose ball

Pablo 01-03-2009 01:39 PM

Sherron is gonna bring the Vols players ankle wraps out after half.

leviw 01-03-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351791)
we just get killed by the 50-50 ball

FYP

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351789)
All of those threes didn't come against a zone, did they?

A lot of them did.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:40 PM

offensive foul ....... bullshit

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351794)
FYP

what the hell does that mean?

leviw 01-03-2009 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351801)
what they hell does that mean?

That's what Self calls them. Pay attention.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351806)
That's what Self calls them. Pay attention.

pay attention?

go **** yourself .... pay attention to that, bish.

leviw 01-03-2009 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351810)
pay attention?

go **** yourself .... pay attention to that, bish.

Solid.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:48 PM

nice pass

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:49 PM

Aldrich with the hammer

leviw 01-03-2009 01:50 PM

Sherron just toying with these on-ball defenders.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 01:51 PM

Aldrich is a beast. The dude can dunk from 10 feet away.

Buehler445 01-03-2009 01:53 PM

Who fouls on a 3?????!!!!!

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:53 PM

few things

1. we need more movement off ball
2. we need to get back on defense better
3. our help defense is committing too far imo and leaving people open

Buehler445 01-03-2009 01:54 PM

Wasn't Tenessee ranked really high once? They aren't good.

leviw 01-03-2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351849)
few things

1. we need more movement off ball
2. we need to get back on defense better
3. our help defense is committing too far imo and leaving people open

Any good things with an 11 point lead, Negative Nancy?

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:54 PM

dang aldrich ..... that close you should of just hammered it home


still a young'un tbh

Buehler445 01-03-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351849)
few things

1. we need more movement off ball
2. we need to get back on defense better
3. our help defense is committing too far imo and leaving people open

4. Make a goddamn ball fake.
5. Get the ball to aldrich - look to score or backside.

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351851)
Any good things with an 11 point lead, Negative Nancy?

i'm positive you're a douchnozzle

:shrug:

Mr. Laz 01-03-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5351854)
4. Make a goddamn ball fake.
5. Get the ball to aldrich - look to score or backside.

true

also when we break their press we should look to make them pay for it more often

leviw 01-03-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351856)
i'm positive you're a douchnozzle

:shrug:

Bunch of whiny Chiefs fans in here.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351856)
i'm positive you're a douchnozzle

:shrug:

Agreed

leviw 01-03-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5351857)
true

also when we break their press we should look to make them pay for it more often

AND WHEN WE FOUL THEM WE SHOULD MAKE IT HURT!

teedubya 01-03-2009 02:03 PM

2nd half should be interesting.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 02:06 PM

Heh, the Vols have Gonzaga next. They've already lost to them once this year.

ArrowheadHawk 01-03-2009 02:06 PM

We had a nice lead against Arizona and Syracuse also. Hopefully this time they can keep it.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5351883)
We had a nice lead against Arizona and Syracuse also. Hopefully this time they can keep it.

Does Aldrich have any fouls?

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 01-03-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk (Post 5351883)
We had a nice lead against Arizona and Syracuse also. Hopefully this time they can keep it.

As long as KU doesn't start getting dinged for fouls every trip down the court like against Syracuse and AZ everything should be ok.

kysirsoze 01-03-2009 02:11 PM

I gotta say, though I'm a Bill Self fan, it is ridiculous for him to lose control like he did in that first half. When your own players are holding you back you have derailed.

leviw 01-03-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5351895)
I gotta say, though I'm a Bill Self fan, it is ridiculous for him to lose control like he did in that first half. When your own players are holding you back you have derailed.

He didn't lose control. He stood up against a third moving screen call against his team. He knew what he was doing -- get a T, let your players know you have their back on calls they argued and get in the officials' ears about calls you don't agree with.

Losing control would have been getting two techs and getting tossed. He was fine.

Reerun_KC 01-03-2009 02:16 PM

Damn we needed that 3

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 01-03-2009 02:17 PM

KU has to be the worst team in the Big 12 at giving up offensive boards.

kysirsoze 01-03-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351906)
He didn't lose control. He stood up against a third moving screen call against his team. He knew what he was doing -- get a T, let your players know you have their back on calls they argued and get in the officials' ears about calls you don't agree with.

Losing control would have been getting two techs and getting tossed. He was fine.

He did finally calm down but he pushed it pretty close to getting tossed. However I do agree that he needs stand up for his team. Just not to the point of costing them points and possibly the presence of their HC.

Buehler445 01-03-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351906)
He didn't lose control. He stood up against a third moving screen call against his team. He knew what he was doing -- get a T, let your players know you have their back on calls they argued and get in the officials' ears about calls you don't agree with.

Losing control would have been getting two techs and getting tossed. He was fine.

I tend to think it was intentional.

Now if I were coach, I would have told the ref to take time off from beating his wife to work decent game, gotten the T. Threw every cuss word at him. Gotten a second, thrown the chair ala Knight and punted the ball ala Nick Nolte in Blue Chips.

Those fouls were bull ****ing shit.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 01-03-2009 02:21 PM

How incredible would Aldrich be if he stays 4 years..... his defense is astounding.

kysirsoze 01-03-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5351918)
I tend to think it was intentional.

Now if I were coach, I would have told the ref to take time off from beating his wife to work decent game, gotten the T. Threw every cuss word at him. Gotten a second, thrown the chair ala Knight and punted the ball ala Nick Nolte in Blue Chips.

Those fouls were bull ****ing shit.

ROFL

Had he done that it would have been worth it.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 02:24 PM

Damn those KU ceerleaders are bonable.

leviw 01-03-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5351917)
He did finally calm down but he pushed it pretty close to getting tossed. However I do agree that he needs stand up for his team. Just not to the point of costing them points and possibly the presence of their HC.

Yeah, I don't think he was close to getting tossed. He's not dumb, he knows the officials, and he knows their limits.

Buehler445 01-03-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviw (Post 5351927)
Yeah, I don't think he was close to getting tossed. He's not dumb, he knows the officials, and he knows their limits.

Agreed. And its better to get that T up 13 than up 5 or something dumb.

chiefsfan987 01-03-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5351909)
Damn we needed that 3

Was it a three? He shot from behind the arc but landed with a foot on the line. Thats the second 3 in this game we've been credited with where that happened that I've noticed.

Buehler445 01-03-2009 02:34 PM

Man, the refs have changed their tune quite a bit.

leviw 01-03-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 5351941)
Was it a three? He shot from behind the arc but landed with a foot on the line. Thats the second 3 in this game we've been credited with where that happened that I've noticed.

Doesn't matter where you land. It's where you start the shot.

ArrowheadHawk 01-03-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 5351941)
Was it a three? He shot from behind the arc but landed with a foot on the line. Thats the second 3 in this game we've been credited with where that happened that I've noticed.

Are you stupid? If you could jump from behind the arc and lay it in the basket that would be a three.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 02:42 PM

That'll teach 'em to press.

Skip Towne 01-03-2009 02:46 PM

Nice move by Morningstar.

Buehler445 01-03-2009 02:46 PM

What a moron. Slap it out while he's out of bounds???


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