Peppers wants out of Carolina
 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3839736

OH my :D

17 mil? :eek:

Don't think he'll happen for KC

One of the few out there that would be an upgrade over JA IMHO. I'll bet he could teach these young pups on our d-line more than the coaching staff ever could. That said I don't see it happening.

Of course, I'm way to lazy to look it up for myself, but I wonder what are some of the biggest contracts Pioli signed off on? :hmmm:

translation: I'm looking for a HUGE payday.

Yeah, I kind of wondered WTF he was talking about.

We need to know that Pioli is not the type of GM that will look for the hottest person in the league. He always looks for people who are under the radar. So I do not expect us to Pepper it up.

This is the guy that was so good in colege, he made Ryan Sims look like a first rounder.

I don't have the numbers and have also contracted the laziness affliction.

But here's some info:

Brady and Richard Seymour got pretty big contracts (top 5 at their positions).

Adalius Thomas is probably their biggest free agent signing.

But Pioli/Belichick have let Ty Law, Adam Vinatieri and Asante Samuel leave rather than paying market rates for them. And Lawyer Milloy was cut after he refused to renegotiate his contract.

So if you're wondering if Pioli will sign a Peppers or a Suggs, my answer is yes, but a bigger question is this: do those players want to come to KC?

he saw Allen's contract.....that's what he wants

Ah, thanks for the info..as far as do they "want" to come to KC, money talks, but I'm not wanting to give up picks if they get franchised.

FYP

That's true to some extent. He did sign Randy Moss, Donte Stollworth, Adalius Thomas, and Wes Welker two seasons ago. But what was interesting was that Pioli took a few years to rebuild before deciding to splurge on free agents. It seems like he favors the approach of rebuilding and building a very strong foundation and then loading up on free agent talent that can take the team over the top. That is one of the reasons I'm so excited about bringing him in.

I don't think you need to worry about that; I don't think the Patriots ever signed a franchised player during Pioli's time here.

But moving up and down the draft board on draft day is something we have seen a lot, so don't be surprised if Pioli moves back in the first round and picks up some additional picks.

Yeah, it seems he is saying all the right things to position himself for exactly that...he's been coached (agent) well.

I wouldn't expect to see him move this season, because it's damn near impossible to move from the top 5.

Where's Mike Ditka when we need him?

cruising myspace with shygums?

No thanks. Would have loved to give Allen the contract we gave LJ, but that ended up to be what is so far the dumbest move in Chiefs recent history besides drafting Junior Siavii in the 2nd rd or drafting Ryan Sims.....correction........trading up to get him.

normally i would say that Peppers is too old for that kind of money but .........

1. the Chiefs have tons of cap room and could actually front load more of the contract so it wouldn't hurt them long term as much.

2. finding another RDE this year is gonna be very,very difficult and the Chief REALLY need one.


A new coaching staff,Stafford/Sanchez at #3 and Peppers in FA could do wonders for the team ...... huge.

**** it you only live once.

Where are all the folks who WANTED Pepper's and Suggs NOW?

ROFL

I would love it if we signed him. Just think, we get a great deal for Allen, have a bad year that results in 3rd pick in the draft, Carl being replaced by Pioli, and hopefully Herm gone as well. Then we replace Allen without spending picks. That would be a win, win, win for the Chiefs.

At 28 this is one of those guys you bring in to put you over the top or fill a weakness on an otherwise complete team. The Chiefs are at the very bottom and very incomplete.

Won't happen. Feel free to dream though.

THIS!

I still think Suggs will be targeted....

I think Peppers just wants to wind up in Tampa Bay so that he can play with Ryan Sims again; you know, without Sims in college, Peppers wouldn't be the DE that he is today. Peppers wants to relive the glory days and then get the monster contract.

Oh, I would love to have Peppers. It's pretty doubtful to happen though.

understood ...... but unfortunately at some point the Chiefs are going to have to do something big to get the "stench of losing" out of the organization.

the longer they wait, they bigger the move they will have to make.


i won't get mad if they don't go after Peppers ..... long term signing him doesn't make sense, but this is as much about bringing confidence to the team as anything.

unless we get lucky and find a legit pass rusher in the later draft rounds, our defense is more or less gonna stink next year too. That hurts our young defensive backs and also puts additional pressure on any young quarterback we draft.

Get Peppers and/or Suggs and you'll see the defense go from worst to at least mediocre.

How would Suggs do in a 4-3? I wouldnt want him to be another Kendrell Bell failure because hes playing in the wrong system.

he'd be an excellent RE.

:spock: I'd give Peppers Jared Allen money before I gave Jared Jared Allen money. Peppers isn't a recovering, 17 year old alcoholic. He's just a football freak. Hell, he got Mario Williams drafted 1st overall in the NFL.

sign 'em and print 'em Scott!

Suggs' shoulder is tore up NO THANKS

Love Julius Peppers.

But if the Chiefs decide to go 3-4, then you have to pass on JP and go with Terrell Suggs.

Dude's only 28. What team wouldn't love to have him?

The harder question is would this be the best use of resources? Not sure that it would be, especially given where the team is currently.

You have such an amazing avatar but you picked the worst Spagnuolo pic ever for your sig. Oh yeah and get Peppers, it doesn't take a genious to realize his career isnt over.

If we had to "overpay" for one FA this off season, I would try to get Peppers. We have the money. As long as we don't go crazy with it for all of our signings, I think bringing Peppers in will be a key improvement for this team.

Yep. With Suggs a close second.

I know we've been burned before, with Chester McGlocktons and Shawn Barbers and Kendrell Bells and Sammy Knights and Pat Surtains and Ty Laws and Donnie Edwards Reduxes, but now we don't have Carl Peterson, and in all likelihood we'll have a different (read: competent) coaching staff. It's much less likely that Peppers or Suggs would flame out like seemingly every other defensive FA that has come through Kansas City in the past decade or so.

In this league you're never more than 3 years away from being that complete team.

Peppers and/or Haynesworth gets you a long way towards it. 2 good drafts and 1 or 2 FA signings can fill the QB, LB and OL needs on this team. FA can take care of the DL.

In 3 seasons he's 31 and we're ready to explode. That's still plenty of life in a rush end. Look at the Packers of the early 90s and you have your blueprint.

In. A. Heartbeat.

hes going to play in the 3-4 he wont come to KC

I can't see Peppers being effective in a 3-4 scheme.

More critically, I can't see him being nearly as valuable.

He's clearly not a 3-4 end, he's a 3-4 OLB. There's no way he's going to get the contract he wants as a 3-4 OLB.

I think he sees the season DeMarcus Ware just had and wants a piece of that. I don't think he's really thought it through that much.

He'll be a 4-3 end for someone next season.

Julius Peppers is way to big to be playing OLB in a 3-4...

I seriously doubt any team out there is going to want to put a guy who's 6'7 280lbs at OLB.

I don't know about Suggs, but I'm confident that Julius is not a lazy **** that will lay down when he gets paid. I'm not sure there is a more motivated player in the league. The fact that you never hear about the dude except on Sundays should work in his favor as well.

Of course, I thought the same thing about Jevon Kearse so what the **** do I know?

I really don't think 3-4 is Pioli's carved-on-stone preference. I think signing Peppers would be a fast giant step toward realistic SuperBowl chances.

It's not a natural fit, but it seems better than putting a speed rusher at end in a 3-4 scheme.

Usually you have to be quick enough and agile enough to drop back and cover to play 3-4 OLB both the outside backers don't rush every single time...unless you're just a situational guy.

This guy is gonna get paid. Remember I think 2009 or 2010 is an uncapped year.

Now that we have a Bona Fide winner at GM, they just might.

It makes sense too. Yes he could get $17 million for next season, barring injury, he would then be 29 next off season. He would get a hell of a lot less money being 29 than 28, and, depending on any agreements that are come to with the NFLPA, could some how, affect his payday next year.

Doesn't Suggs play RDE in a 4-3 right now? He is a stud in either system, which would be a reason I think that Pioli might actually look to sign him. It seems the Pats love versatile guys on their teams, and he can play with a hand on the ground or upright in the 34, plus he is supposed to be level headed and a good team player.

Agreed... never doubt the power of money either.

i believe baltimore runs a 3-4

Ok. I dont watch them often obviosuly, but I know at some point I saw him playing DE this year... maybe just a 43 set, or 34 over or whatever they call it.

Don't know how much gas is left in the tank for Peppers ...

Peppers is most likely looking for a playoff team.

FYP

Peppers won't even be passing by KC.

I don't believe I care.

true ..... we will have to appear to be movers and shakers this offseason so FA's will want to come and play here.

getting a respected new head coach will help


bringing in several big name free agents all really early in free agency so that we get the buzz.

link?

Ends can play well into their 30s, he should have 4 or 5 more productive seasons. Or more. It's not like runningback. Strahan, for instance, played 15 years, and had some of his best seasons after the halfway point in his career, including 4 double-digit sack seasons (and another with 9 sacks).

It all depends on how much he wants to play, and how hard he works (neither of which I know...).

Peppers was on the decline until his contract year this year.

Some team is going to overspend on a guy who looks like a Jevon Kearse/Hugh Douglas type DE free agent bust.

In the mickle they go to a 4-man line.

This all stems from the gross rookie contracts we have been seeing the last few seasons.

A vet player now is seeing that ist rd picks are making way more than they are without having to prove himself in the league, and the vet thinks hes paid his dues so the good players that are in their 2nd or esp 3rd contracts wanna get the payday they "deserve" so to speak. So once they get paid I think theres a big risk that they kinda kick it back and maybe don't play as hard.

JMO.

With a new capable coach (hopefully), a new capable GM and a good draft, who's to say the Chiefs can't pull an Atlanta?

Isn't he just 28?

Would you, if he signed with Denver?

Depends on if your name is Larry Johnson or Tony Gonzalez.

This.

According to Sirius NFL radio, Carolina says they will franchise tag him. Problem is, they are only 11mil under the cap. If they tag him, they would have to cut some big salaries, plus, they would lose Gross. Looks like a lose lose situation for the Panthers.

well jesus christ our pass rush was so bad last year a team with Brady, Moss, and AP wouldn't have won more than 2 games. what if our offense takes even bigger strides next year, becomes one of the best in the league, we know how good our secondary is, we get better against the run, make the playoffs, but lose in the first round because we can't sniff the qb? Or maybe don't make the playoffs because of no pass rush..you can make big strides in one off season in the NFL..I say grab him

Randy Moss was a notable exception although he came at a bargain basement price.

I'd sat adalius Thomas and Roosevelt colvin, when they were signed, were among the hottest free agents those years. So he has done it.