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DaWolf 01-23-2009 04:46 PM

Schefter reporting Cowher tops our list of candidates, Shanahan will NOT be in KC..
 
Shanahan isn’t a candidate in Kansas City
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/23/shan...n-kansas-city/

Despite reports running rampant that Kansas City is negotiating with former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan they are not, sources said Friday.

The Chiefs never have made any contact with Shahanan, never. And there have been no contract negotiations.

So unless people I have known for years are wrong, Shanahan is not going to be the next coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. It is not happening. People can keep talking as if it is. But it is not. He will not be the coach of the Kansas City Chiefs in 2009.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/23/shan...n-kansas-city/

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/23/cowh...fs-candidates/

While football has speculated on the Chiefs coaching search the past few weeks, now Kansas City actually gets to commence it.

One NFL source said a name near or at the top of the Chiefs list is former Steelers coach Bill Cowher, who has been adamant that he will not coach this season. Still, the source said the Chiefs are interested in Cowher, though it is uncertain whether they would be able to entice him to come out of retirement.

Also on the Chiefs list is Cardinals offensive coordinator Todd Haley, who used to work on the staff of Bill Parcells, the father-in-law of Kansas City general manager Scott Pioli. If the Chiefs wanted to hire Haley, they would have to wait until after the Super Bowl to make the move.

Dolphins defensive coordinator Paul Pasqualoni also is thought to be on the Chiefs list of potential candidates. Pasqualoni had a down season in Miami, but is highly respected around the league and used to work with Pioli for two seasons at Syracuse.

Some around the league believe that Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt has a strong feeling for Kansas City offensive coordinator Chan Gailey, though Pioli would have to sign off on the hire and some doubt that he would.

However it works, the coaching carousel keeps spinning.

And we now have 11 teams that have changed head coaches, more than any other season in NFL history. The changes included two Super-Bowl winning coaches that were fired, two Super-Bowl winning coaches that retired, and seven other changes.

keg in kc 01-23-2009 04:50 PM

610 is saying that Shanahan's agent told Schefter that there are no negotiations going on and that Shanahan is not coming to Kansas City. Vehement about it.

OnTheWarpath15 01-23-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5419816)
610 is saying that Shanahan's agent told Schefter that there are no negotiations going on and that Shanahan is not coming to Kansas City. Vehement about it.

That's probably EXACTLY what Shanahan's agent told Schefter.

Doesn't mean he told him the truth.

If Clark/Scott asked him to keep quiet, what's he going to do, spill the beans?

Christofire 01-23-2009 04:53 PM

What about the Rooney Rule? Do we get fined if we don't go through the right process, lose a draft pick, what?

keg in kc 01-23-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5419835)
That's probably EXACTLY what Shanahan's agent told Schefter.

Doesn't mean he told him the truth.

If Clark/Scott asked him to keep quiet, what's he going to do, spill the beans?

Lying would not be keeping quiet. 'No comment' would be keeping quiet.

The individual they were interviewing said that Schefter has a 15 year relationship with the agent and that to date he's never mislead him.

In any case, not saying yea or nay, just reporting what I heard...

DaWolf 01-23-2009 04:54 PM

Well, either Schefter is right, or Mortensen is right.

Both have been wrong before, so it's possible neither will be right...

kstater 01-23-2009 04:54 PM

He's going down like the captain of the titanic isn't he.

Mr. Kotter 01-23-2009 04:54 PM

That's my gut. I could live with Shanny though.

Basileus777 01-23-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christofire (Post 5419851)
What about the Rooney Rule?

We have no idea who has or will be interviewed.

Coach 01-23-2009 04:55 PM

Well, didn't Schefter reported that Herm was gonna stay?

keg in kc 01-23-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5419859)
Both have been wrong before, so it's possible neither will be right...

That's probably the safest bet.

Although it's interesting to me that the 810 guys are treating it as a done deal due to some kind of inside information that Jack Harry purportedly has.

FloridaMan88 01-23-2009 04:56 PM

Mort was right about the Chiefs making a decision regarding Herm by the end of the day today... he's been right so far.

Deberg_1990 01-23-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christofire (Post 5419851)
What about the Rooney Rule? Do we get fined if we don't go through the right process, lose a draft pick, what?


Probably a loophole where interviewing Herm satisfied this requirement.

OnTheWarpath15 01-23-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5419854)
Lying would not be keeping quiet. 'No comment' would be keeping quiet.

The individual they were interviewing said that Schefter has a 15 year relationship with the agent and that to date he's never mislead him.

In any case, not saying yea or nay, just reporting what I heard...

No comment is basically giving the rumor legs.

kstater 01-23-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5419880)
Probably a loophole where interviewing Herm satisfied this requirement.

Or Pioli could bring in Bob the black janitor and interview him before the new coach gets here.

Basileus777 01-23-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 5419879)
Mort was right about the Chiefs making a decision regarding Herm by the end of the day today... he's been right so far.

Yep. He's only the media person who has shown any indications of having a source in the Chiefs organization.

The Bad Guy 01-23-2009 04:57 PM

I'm trusting Mortensen.

keg in kc 01-23-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5419883)
No comment is basically giving the rumor legs.

Not really, because Schefter wouldn't have anything to report, unlike a 'yes' or a 'no'.

Extra Point 01-23-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christofire (Post 5419851)
What about the Rooney Rule? Do we get fined if we don't go through the right process, lose a draft pick, what?

$200,000 vs. $3-4 Million for Herm for a glorified subsidy check? Your soapbox has a big whole in it!

JBucc 01-23-2009 05:01 PM

ESPN vs NFL network, Mortensen vs Schefter. Someone is going to look like a giant ass after this.

siberian khatru 01-23-2009 05:01 PM

Schefter doubling down.

Mama Hip Rockets 01-23-2009 05:03 PM

this is getting interesting.

Christofire 01-23-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extra Point (Post 5419917)
$200,000 vs. $3-4 Million for Herm for a glorified subsidy check? Your soapbox has a big whole in it!

I'm just asking the question. I want a head coach as much as the next guy, but i don't want to lose a draft pick because of it.

DaWolf 01-23-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBucc (Post 5419926)
ESPN vs NFL network, Mortensen vs Schefter. Someone is going to look like a giant ass after this.

I like Mort, but I am almost inclined to believe Schefter because I don't think it is consistent with anything I think Hunt is about to circumvent the Rooney rule, unless they did that in stealth when Herm was still under contract. To believe they're going to hire Rat tonight still has me wondering about the truth behind this. If we hired Rat after a week of interviews with others, that would make more sense and be consistent with what we've seen so far.

But hell, who knows at this point?

Jerm 01-23-2009 05:06 PM

Crennel interviewed as Rooney rule candidate? Makes sense.

New DC.

Schefter lost all cred for me when he said Pioli wasn't coming.

Cheater5 01-23-2009 05:07 PM

Was just listening to Jack Harry being interviewed over the phone on WHB 810 AM; he was none too polite regarding Adam Shefter's comments the last 48 hours..."These 'network' guys think they know everything and disregard what those of us closest to the situation are reporting..." I'm paraphrasing of course.

Going to be hard to see Shanahan's grotesquely tight, tanned face which resembles a Chilean mummy-child, sporting a Chiefs baseball hat on top of it.

Taco John 01-23-2009 05:07 PM

Schefter: Shanahan isn’t a candidate in Kansas City
 
Shanahan isn’t a candidate in Kansas City

Posted: January 23rd, 2009 | Adam Schefter | Tags: Kansas City Chiefs, Mike Shanahan

Despite rampant reports that the Chiefs are negotiating with former Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan to replace Herm Edwards, they are not, sources said Friday.

The Chiefs never have made any contact with Shanahan — never. And there have been no contract negotiations.

So unless people I have known for years are wrong, Shanahan will not be the next coach of the Chiefs. It’s not happening. People can keep talking as if it is, but it’s not. Shanahan will not be the coach of the Chiefs in 2009.

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/adam-schefter/

MIAdragon 01-23-2009 05:07 PM

Repost damit

keg in kc 01-23-2009 05:07 PM

Teicher just said on 610, and this is a direct quote, that "Shanahan is not going to be the next coach of the Chiefs."

OnTheWarpath15 01-23-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5419996)
Teicher just said on 610, and this is a direct quote, that "Shanahan is not going to be the next coach of the Chiefs."

Well, that all but guarantees it.

When was the last time Teicher was right about anything?

BigRock 01-23-2009 05:08 PM

This is only in 8 other threads.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE

siberian khatru 01-23-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5419996)
Teicher just said on 610, and this is a direct quote, that "Shanahan is not going to be the next coach of the Chiefs."

WTF would Teicher know? Mort and Schef have better sources than he does.

talastan 01-23-2009 05:10 PM

Schefter is really getting his panties in a wad on this one. Can't believe his "good friend" the Rat would coach for the enemy huh? ROFL

Whether we get the Rat or the Chin, if we get either of them I'll be okay with it. Both have proven records and will be very beneficial for this team.

keg in kc 01-23-2009 05:10 PM

Don't ask me, I'm just passing on what I hear.

Apparently the conjecture now is that ESPN's 'source' on this is actually NBC 41 and that they're just nationalizing a local rumor.

siberian khatru 01-23-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5420022)
Don't ask me, I'm just passing on what I hear.

Nobody's bagging on you. Keep us informed! :clap:

Demonpenz 01-23-2009 05:12 PM

idiot he is calling his first team meeting already rofl

Mr. Flopnuts 01-23-2009 05:12 PM

Schefter isn't stating facts, he's stating wild hopes. He hates the Chiefs and doesn't even try to hide it. **** him. Welcome, master Shredder.

Taco John 01-23-2009 05:13 PM

I'm not inclined to believe that Schefter is wrong on matters pertaining to Shanahan. It would be news in itself if Adam ends up eating a **** sandwhich on this one...

petegz28 01-23-2009 05:13 PM

Schefter also said Pioli was not coming to KC

DaWolf 01-23-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5420022)
Don't ask me, I'm just passing on what I hear.

Apparently the conjecture now is that ESPN's 'source' on this is actually NBC 41 and that they're just nationalizing a local rumor.

I would like to think Mortensen is more professional than that, but who knows.

Kev Harlan is saying that before Shanny went on vacation three weeks ago, he said that the only person that he would come back to the NFL to work for this year is Scott Pioli.

Yet people in Denver were being told that he would NOT be in KC.

The plot thickens...

keg in kc 01-23-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5420043)
Schefter isn't stating facts, he's stating wild hopes. He hates the Chiefs and doesn't even try to hide it. **** him. Welcome, master Shredder.

BTW, the guy who was reporting on 610 wasn't schefter, it was some donkey beat writer.

DJ's left nut 01-23-2009 05:14 PM

Schefter's a full of shit garden gnome, always has been.

Schefter could present me with Cowhers signed employment contract and I'd still believe Mort over him.

BigChiefFan 01-23-2009 05:14 PM

The Chiefs didn't fire Herm for no reason.

Hammock Parties 01-23-2009 05:14 PM

hahahahaha Cowher?

Has Schefter LOST HIS MIND?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-23-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 5420047)
I'm not inclined to believe that Schefter is wrong on matters pertaining to Shanahan. It would be news in itself if Adam ends up eating a **** sandwhich on this one...

I can't think of anyone who would be more crushed than you if Mike ended up here. Forgive me for thinking you're using your heart on this one instead of your head.

Hammock Parties 01-23-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5419996)
Teicher just said on 610, and this is a direct quote, that "Shanahan is not going to be the next coach of the Chiefs."

IN THIS CORNAH!

NICK ATHAN AND CHRIS MORTENSEN

IN THIS CORNAH!

SCHEFTA AND TEICHA! THE TERRIBLE ADAMS!

FIGHT!

keg in kc 01-23-2009 05:16 PM

610s saying something about a league policy dictating that there can't be any non-superbowl related NFL announcements from tomorrow until february 2nd - anybody know anything about that?

siberian khatru 01-23-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 5420068)
610s saying something about a league policy dictating that there can't be any non-superbowl related NFL announcements from tomorrow until february 2nd - anybody know anything about that?

Yes, I've heard of the policy, just didn't know what the exact timeline was.

petegz28 01-23-2009 05:18 PM

Kevin Harlan reporting on Shanahan possibly using KC...
 
Basically what he is saying is that Shanahan and other Denver coaches have to be actively seeking positions or the lose out on a ton of $'s.

And the possiblity that Shanahan "could" be using the Chiefs to make it look like he is looking for a job to be eligible for the $'s.


Very interesting...

Donger 01-23-2009 05:18 PM

Yes, and WTC 7 really was a controlled demolition.

DaWolf 01-23-2009 05:18 PM

Harlan says the agent for Bob Slowik was told that his client was told to be actively looking for work so that Bowlen wouldn't have "cause" to legally withhold money owed by Bowlen. Now they're speculating the possibility that Shanarat is using the Chiefs to get his name out there so that legally Bowlen could not come back and withhold the money from Shanarat.

Wow...

memyselfI 01-23-2009 05:18 PM

Poor Taco. ROFL

DaneMcCloud 01-23-2009 05:18 PM

ESPN News just said that the Chiefs are "targeting" Shanahan; they're NOT in negotiations.

ChiTown 01-23-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5420077)
Yes, and WTC 7 really was a controlled demolition.

ROFL

ChiefMojo 01-23-2009 05:19 PM

Schefter is admitting that his sources are on the periphery and not directly involved. I think Mortensen's sources are coming out of Arrowhead. So actually Schefter isn't dealing directly with Mike on this one it seems.

blueballs 01-23-2009 05:20 PM

Jack Harry getting burned and hating Pioli
would be mother ****ing hilarious

siberian khatru 01-23-2009 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5420080)
Harlan says the agent for Bob Slowik was told that his client was told to be actively looking for work so that Bowlen wouldn't have "cause" to legally withhold money owed by Bowlen. Now they're speculating the possibility that Shanarat is using the Chiefs to get his name out there so that legally Bowlen could not come back and withhold the money from Shanarat.

Wow...

That's ... bizarre.

Rat gets fired, but can't collect the money owed him unless? That's weird.

OnTheWarpath15 01-23-2009 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5420083)
ESPN News just said that the Chiefs are "targeting" Shanahan; they're NOT in negotiations.

Then they are backtracking.

This is beyond crazy.

petegz28 01-23-2009 05:20 PM

Also he reported that Schefter is very close to Shanahan.

Taco John 01-23-2009 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5420060)
I can't think of anyone who would be more crushed than you if Mike ended up here. Forgive me for thinking you're using your heart on this one instead of your head.


Indeed. I'll admit it. I would be crushed. I've been a Shanahan fan since I was a kid, reading Elway in Sports Illustrated talking glowingly about what he's done for his game. I was jubulant when Shanahan got hired as head coach, and I believe that we were within two years of Superbowl contention when he got fired.

I'd never forgive Bowlen if this happened.

memyselfI 01-23-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 5420104)
Indeed. I'll admit it. I would be crushed. I've been a Shanahan fan since I was a kid, reading Elway in Sports Illustrated talking glowingly about what he's done for his game. I was jubulant when Shanahan got hired as head coach, and I believe that we were within two years of Superbowl contention when he got fired.

I'd never forgive Bowlen if this happened.

Poor Taco. ROFL

Donger 01-23-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 5420091)
Schefter is admitting that his sources are on the periphery and not directly involved. I think Mortensen's sources are coming out of Arrowhead. So actually Schefter isn't dealing directly with Mike on this one it seems.

How do you go from periphery to "dealing directly with Mike" in three sentences?

DaWolf 01-23-2009 05:22 PM

I'm starting to believe this isn't going to come to fruition...

keg in kc 01-23-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 5420072)
Yes, I've heard of the policy, just didn't know what the exact timeline was.

That makes me think that Herm's release was timed intentionally. They'll be able to interview candidates next week in virtually total secrecy.

I hope people are ready to wait until February 2nd to find out who our new coach is.

BigRedChief 01-23-2009 05:28 PM

Wasn't Adam the one telling us no way Pioli was coming here?

OnTheWarpath15 01-23-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5420173)
Wasn't Adam the one telling us no way Pioli was coming here?

Yep.

Taco John 01-23-2009 05:29 PM

ESPN Backpedals on Shanahan...
 
ESPN news wire update:

UPDATE: PLEASE USE THE FOLLOWING WORDING

CREDIT ESPN's Chris Mortensen --

ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen reports that the Chiefs are TARGETING Shanahan and negotiations have occurred, according to sources.

Shanahan could not be reached for comment and Chiefs had no comment.

petegz28 01-23-2009 05:29 PM

Kevin says he doesn't think it will be Shanny...no particular reason, just doesn't see it happening

teedubya 01-23-2009 05:29 PM

if the Chiefs hire Cowher, Im buying my buddy a beer.

petegz28 01-23-2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 5420184)
ESPN news wire update:

UPDATE: PLEASE USE THE FOLLOWING WORDING

CREDIT ESPN's Chris Mortensen --

ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen reports that the Chiefs are TARGETING Shanahan and negotiations have occurred, according to sources.

Shanahan could not be reached for comment and Chiefs had no comment.

Repost :D

siberian khatru 01-23-2009 05:30 PM

So who's the new manager of the Royals going to be?

Blindside58 01-23-2009 05:30 PM

Note to self....The Royals Symbol works wonders!

Deberg_1990 01-23-2009 05:31 PM

Shanny to the Royals??

Donger 01-23-2009 05:32 PM

I smell fear.

talastan 01-23-2009 05:32 PM

ROFL ROFL

Hammock Parties 01-23-2009 05:33 PM

Taco clings to hope....

Taco cries into his hoodie....

Taco binge eats to dull the pain....

Archie Bunker 01-23-2009 05:33 PM

I hope he doesn't play Gload as much.

Taco John 01-23-2009 05:33 PM

http://www.earplugs.de/images/System...-Startsite.jpg

MIAdragon 01-23-2009 05:33 PM

Interesting it is.

petegz28 01-23-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 5420226)
I hope he doesn't play Gload as much.

THIS :)


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