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Coach 02-21-2009 10:33 PM

Just got threatened by a....
 
60 year old woman at work.

Here how it went. Every 3rd Wednesday, at a apartment complex that I work at, we have pest control, and we have a guy from a company that comes out and sprays each individual apartments, basically a basic treatment on the covebase/floor areas. My boss went with the pest control guy and we went to this one particitular unit, where our staff had major issues with, since this tenant always gives us problems, such as calling the police on us for no apparent reason, even though she is claiming that somebody is breaking into her apartment.

Now before I go any further, an example would be is that she once claimed that her next door neighbor was trying to break in by climbing on the ceiling from his unit to her unit. Okay, well here are a few problems with that. One is that each unit is seperated by a concrete barrier, so there's no way for the next door neighbor to somehow get on top of his ceiling and climb over to the apartment, unless you do it by jackhammering, which the whole building would have heard it regardless. Also, the ceiling tiles are only supported by wires that are propped into the concerete ceiling, and the weight of the ceiling tiles wouldn't even support a human body, since it would come crashing down and such.

Anyways, she wasn't home during pest control (This is normal, since she's never home anyways during the work week, because she hates us for apparently no reason) so my boss opened the door and let the bug guy spray in her apartment. What happened was that she got home and saw the note on her door knob (this is procedure to let the tenants know that we were in there to do either repairs or inspections, etc) and tore it up, and threw it over the balcony into the atrium area.

Then she went over to the other side of the building to talk to the resident manager who is on duty, and a different tenant overheard the conversation on the floor below. Basically she said to the resident manager "If somebody ever comes into my apartment again, I will get a gun and shoot their asses", and left. Both of those tenants who heard the comment reported to the Director and signed a statement about what happened.

She's now under a 30 day eviction notice.

Huffman83 02-21-2009 10:45 PM

Today was a good day then....

Crush 02-21-2009 10:48 PM

May I suggest some antifreeze?

WilliamTheIrish 02-21-2009 10:56 PM

Skip's a tough tenant, huh?

Coach 02-21-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 5514575)
Skip's a tough tenant, huh?

LMAO

Bugeater 02-21-2009 11:48 PM

I spent quite a few year painting and cleaning carpets in numerous apartment complexes, and we ran into all kinds too. My favorites were the people who'd bitch you out when you were cleaning up flood damage in their apartments as if you were the one who caused it.

88TG88 02-21-2009 11:56 PM

Spray pesticide on her toothbrush.

Skip Towne 02-21-2009 11:58 PM

I don't doubt this story but I put Directv in an apartment and ran the wires through the attic. It was open above all the units. The customer told me a druggie was getting into all the other apartments that way. He didn't walk on the ceiling tiles though. He didn't have to. Each apt. had an attic access in a closet.

WilliamTheIrish 02-21-2009 11:58 PM

And don't bump the goddamm dish!!!!

Fish 02-22-2009 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huffman83 (Post 5514539)
Today was a good day then....

I didn't even have to use my AK....

Coach 02-22-2009 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5514763)
I didn't even have to use my AK....

This I can confirm. Heh.

banyon 02-22-2009 12:52 AM

This is in Kansas?

What's the reason behind the eviction?

Coach 02-22-2009 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon (Post 5514855)
This is in Kansas?

What's the reason behind the eviction?

Threatening physical violence towards a city employee.

Rausch 02-22-2009 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huffman83 (Post 5514539)
Today was a good day then....

"Orkin didn't have ta' use the AK...today was a good day..."

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-22-2009 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon (Post 5514855)
This is in Kansas?

What's the reason behind the eviction?


I would imagine the rental contract gives the landlord the right to inspect the apartments and treat them there cockroachs. Therefore ,threatening to blow their shit away for said inspection that is on the same day of every week should be illegal. You should ask a lawyer though.

kstater 02-22-2009 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5515088)
I would imagine the rental contract gives the landlord the right to inspect the apartments and treat them there cockroachs. Therefore ,threatening to blow their shit away for said inspection that is on the same day of every week should be illegal. You should ask a lawyer though.

I'm fairly confident Banyon IS a lawyer.

I'd imagine that you are right as well.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-22-2009 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5515090)
I'm fairly confident Banyon IS a lawyer.

I'd imagine that you are right as well.

I know. I was poking fun. HeHe!

BucEyedPea 02-22-2009 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5515088)
I would imagine the rental contract gives the landlord the right to inspect the apartments and treat them there cockroachs. Therefore ,threatening to blow their shit away for said inspection that is on the same day of every week should be illegal. You should ask a lawyer though.

ROFL

BucEyedPea 02-22-2009 08:24 AM

I love those fiesty 'ole ladies. Too bad it wasn't her property though.

Abba-Dabba 02-22-2009 08:25 AM

Screw the 30 day eviction notice. Pay the 4 to 5 bills that it takes to get a 3day eviction. Teach the broad a lesson about other than hers property.

Dartgod 02-22-2009 09:17 AM

Move her in next to Jilly's neighbor.

ohiobronco2 02-22-2009 09:30 AM

My father owns a small plumbing company. We've been in some pretty nasty houses. The worst, by far, was in New Miami, OH. We enter the front gate and there are 6 dog cages on each side of this small lawn. Also, there is misc. junk to the side of the house, looks like the lady attended every garage sell in town and purchased a bunch of crap. So we enter the house to find cats everywhere and the carpeting has been replaced with newspaper. The smell was unreal. We proceed to go upstairs to fix an issue that this lady was having with her shower. Her neighbor, who put the shower in, managed to use soo much glue on this cpvc line that he actually sealed in shut. As we are working, the other lady who lives there comes upstairs and attempts to lie down on a bed which is covered in cat crap. My brother stops her from doing so, but she just grabs the sheet, shakes it off and lies down. Unreal. We also found a dead cat in the basement, crawl space. Can anybody beat that? :D

banyon 02-22-2009 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 5514896)
Threatening physical violence towards a city employee.

Crazy old women mutter stuff all of the time. It's ambiguous that she directly threatened someone and I'm pretty confident there's not a direct term in her lease referring to that. Landlordsfor a while have been trying to expand the scope of the "crime free premises" section of a lease asa catch all to get rid of undesirables.

I won a case pretty much identical to this one time where my client had yelled angrily at the landlords and the police had been called.

I'm not saying you're not right to be seriously sick of this lady, I'm just saying it might not be as easy as you think.

rockchalkgirl 02-22-2009 09:33 AM

If it's a month to month lease, no reason required in Kansas.

banyon 02-22-2009 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 5515088)
I would imagine the rental contract gives the landlord the right to inspect the apartments and treat them there cockroachs. Therefore ,threatening to blow their shit away for said inspection that is on the same day of every week should be illegal. You should ask a lawyer though.

There is also a requirement about reasonable notice prior to entry that is part of the Kansas Residential Landlord Tenant Act even if the people forgot to put it in their lease. It doesn't sound like it's Coach's fault, but the landlord should be telling her 24 hours ahead that they plan on doing this stuff.

banyon 02-22-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saggysack (Post 5515108)
Screw the 30 day eviction notice. Pay the 4 to 5 bills that it takes to get a 3day eviction. Teach the broad a lesson about other than hers property.

It doesn't work like that. 3 days if you don't pay, then 30 days if you violate a non-monetary material term of the lease (you also get 14 days to "cure" the breach if that is possible).

Abba-Dabba 02-22-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon (Post 5515180)
It doesn't work like that. 3 days if you don't pay, then 30 days if you violate a non-monetary material term of the lease (you also get 14 days to "cure" the breach if that is possible).

Post reminds me of how many times I have been evicted.

Bwana 02-22-2009 10:06 AM

Bird Bombs!

cardken 02-22-2009 10:11 AM

Having worked in numerous states in the Property Management business (Kansas, Missouri, Kentucky, Arkansas and Nevada), the laws vary from state to state as regards eviction policy. In most all those states the best course of action is to offer them a flat out release from their agreement. Most people back down in the thought of moving. Secondly, you refuse to renew their lease at end of term. This is a right of the Management company has in all states.
IT takes all kinds and unfortunately I've observed most Apartment Complexes are glorified "Institutions", not that all who live in these domiciles are "nuts" but there is a fair share of them. What most of these loons fail to realize is they are "Renting/leasing" the unit and have not purchased it. They don't have the same rights of a property owner. I've had numerous experiances in my past, it's interesting if nothing else. I've had guns drawn on me, and dogs poised to attack. But most people are pretty understanding an d read their lease and understand you have to enter apartments with notice to do preventive maintenance unless other arrangements are made. Emergency entrance has to be made in cases of flood, electrical or fire.
I no longer work in Property Management on the apartment side, I'm working in the Adult Health Care field, this is a whole different jar of "nuts".

Coach 02-25-2009 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon (Post 5515172)
Crazy old women mutter stuff all of the time. It's ambiguous that she directly threatened someone and I'm pretty confident there's not a direct term in her lease referring to that. Landlordsfor a while have been trying to expand the scope of the "crime free premises" section of a lease asa catch all to get rid of undesirables.

I won a case pretty much identical to this one time where my client had yelled angrily at the landlords and the police had been called.

I'm not saying you're not right to be seriously sick of this lady, I'm just saying it might not be as easy as you think.

The property isn't privately owned. It's owned by the City. Plus, the lease is written up by the Housing Urban Department. And by law, by the HUD standards,

Secton 9

Occupancy of the Premises and Tenant’s Obligations

Tenant SHALL:

Not permit household members or guests to act or speak in an abusive or threatening manner.

Section 10

CRIMINAL ACTIVITY

Criminal Activity includes, but is not limited to, any of the following:

Physical assault or the threat of physical assault, Illegal use of a firearm or other weapon, or the threat to use a firearm or other weapon

Sexual molestation, sexual molestation of a minor, prostitution,and other similar or related sexual misconduct.

Any breach of this lease provision by the tenant, his/herhousehold member(s) or guest(s) shall be cause for termination of the Lease if PMHA believes, in good faith,that a breach has occurred.

A breach of this covenant constitutes a serious and clear danger to the health and safety of other tenants, persons residing in the vicinity and employees of PMHA. It shall be PMHA’s duty, in any eviction proceedings, to prove that a breach of this covenant has occurred.

So, yes, it's easy as I think, because she has broken her lease agreement by law, and 4 people have signed an statement that the incident occured.

http://www.hud.gov/offices/pih/progr...phtraining.pdf

EyePod 02-25-2009 09:29 AM

I bet she can move in with Huard, Merritt, Surtain, and Edwards!!! She'll just have to gtfo of the KC area just like that sorry bunch of miscreants!!!

Coach 02-25-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon (Post 5515179)
There is also a requirement about reasonable notice prior to entry that is part of the Kansas Residential Landlord Tenant Act even if the people forgot to put it in their lease. It doesn't sound like it's Coach's fault, but the landlord should be telling her 24 hours ahead that they plan on doing this stuff.

We sent them a calender, marking the dates that Pest Control will be conducted, along with the 24 hour notice posted on the tenant posting board as well.

Same thing with annual inspections, or a work that has to be done by a contractor, except if it's a emergency.

Valiant 02-25-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohiobronco2 (Post 5515170)
My father owns a small plumbing company. We've been in some pretty nasty houses. The worst, by far, was in New Miami, OH. We enter the front gate and there are 6 dog cages on each side of this small lawn. Also, there is misc. junk to the side of the house, looks like the lady attended every garage sell in town and purchased a bunch of crap. So we enter the house to find cats everywhere and the carpeting has been replaced with newspaper. The smell was unreal. We proceed to go upstairs to fix an issue that this lady was having with her shower. Her neighbor, who put the shower in, managed to use soo much glue on this cpvc line that he actually sealed in shut. As we are working, the other lady who lives there comes upstairs and attempts to lie down on a bed which is covered in cat crap. My brother stops her from doing so, but she just grabs the sheet, shakes it off and lies down. Unreal. We also found a dead cat in the basement, crawl space. Can anybody beat that? :D

When I was selling cookies when I was younger I got trapped in this house in the hood.. It was horrible they had trap doors, booby traps and a vicious dog.. The owner chased me into the walls wearing this leather suit.. Luckily their daughter fed me.. Eventually I got downstairs, and guess what?? Instead of dead cats, they had casper looking white kids with no tongues.. Some of them were dead.. I found a secret room down there with gold and money.. Eventually the crazy guy wearing the leather suit found me after he got done banging his wife who ended up being his sister, I escaped and killed the dog.. I eventually escaped the house with their daughter who was a kidnapped neighbor kid through the attic window..

can anybody beat that???

speak24 02-25-2009 06:15 PM

chocolate ex lax and baked goods...

banyon 02-25-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 5524977)
The property isn't privately owned. It's owned by the City. Plus, the lease is written up by the Housing Urban Department. And by law, by the HUD standards,

Secton 9

Occupancy of the Premises and Tenant’s Obligations

Tenant SHALL:

Not permit household members or guests to act or speak in an abusive or threatening manner.

Section 10

CRIMINAL ACTIVITY

Criminal Activity includes, but is not limited to, any of the following:

Physical assault or the threat of physical assault, Illegal use of a firearm or other weapon, or the threat to use a firearm or other weapon

Sexual molestation, sexual molestation of a minor, prostitution,and other similar or related sexual misconduct.

Any breach of this lease provision by the tenant, his/herhousehold member(s) or guest(s) shall be cause for termination of the Lease if PMHA believes, in good faith,that a breach has occurred.

A breach of this covenant constitutes a serious and clear danger to the health and safety of other tenants, persons residing in the vicinity and employees of PMHA. It shall be PMHA’s duty, in any eviction proceedings, to prove that a breach of this covenant has occurred.

So, yes, it's easy as I think, because she has broken her lease agreement by law, and 4 people have signed an statement that the incident occured.

http://www.hud.gov/offices/pih/progr...phtraining.pdf

Which provision there did you think she violated?

banyon 02-25-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 5527070)
We sent them a calender, marking the dates that Pest Control will be conducted, along with the 24 hour notice posted on the tenant posting board as well.

Same thing with annual inspections, or a work that has to be done by a contractor, except if it's a emergency.

That seems adequate to me. I'd probably recommend posting on doors though.

Valiant 02-25-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon (Post 5527196)
Which provision there did you think she violated?

???

Not permit household members or guests to act or speak in an abusive or threatening manner.

or

Physical assault or the threat of physical assault, Illegal use of a firearm or other weapon, or the threat to use a firearm or other weapon

Mr. Kotter 02-25-2009 06:40 PM

Stupid ole bat deserves to be tossed-out. What a clown. :shake:

kstater 02-25-2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon (Post 5527196)
Which provision there did you think she violated?

I'm going to go with threat of physical assault, or threat to use a firearm.

speak24 02-25-2009 06:50 PM

tell her social security check won't be delivered if she keeps this stuff up...


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