Team of Destiny?
 

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Mizzou versus Memphis -- statistically speaking..

I looked thru some numbers, and these are the ones I find most important.. FYI - don't find things like points per game or points given up per game as that important. Missouri would be very high on offense, and mediocre on defense. But that is a function of their TEMPO, not offensive or defensive efficiency. Some people don't like stats... I love them... thus this may bore some of you.

OFFENSE FIRST (there are around 300 teams)

FG% offense rank
Mizzou - 34
Memphis - 108
Comment -- A little surprised Memphis was this low. I realize they aren't a great shooting team, but figured they get enough good looks to have a higher percentage. About where I expected Mizzou to be. Mizzou isn't a great shooting team by any means, but given their style of play... they get some easy looks, which inflates their rank here a little higher than it would be if they didn't play this style.

3PT% rank
Mizzou - 110
Memphis - 212
Comment - neither very good here, although Memphis easily one of the worst in the country at shooting from deep

FT% rank
Mizzou - 221
Mempnhis - 147
Comment - Memphis is better than they were last year, but still not good. Obviously Mizzou has been even worse, and one of the worst in the country. That said, Mizzou has some games where they are very good from line. Kind of depends on Carroll.. Carroll either seems to hit most of them, or he gets where he can't hit anything.

Assist/Turnover ratio rank
Mizzou - 2
Memphis - 52
Comment - this is easily one of Mizzou top two strengths. They are fabulous at sharing the basketball, and amazing for a team that plays uptempo, rarely turning it over. Memphis appears average in this regard. Not a surprise given they probably are more of a "one on one" team. I don't think Memphis not sharing the basketball at a high level will hurt them alot versus Mizzou since you beat Mizzou by dribble driving through the press and to the hole.... not really on unselfish halfcourt offense.

Offensive efficiency as determined by Pomeroy - probably looks at points per possession or something like that
Mizzou - 17
Memphis - 25
Comment - no comment.

OVERALL OFFENSIVE STATISTICAL ANALYSIS
Independent of how these teams matchup versus each other, it's pretty fair to say that Mizzou is the better offensive team. They generally shoot the ball better, share the ball better and run a more efficient offense. However, when looking at Memphis actual weakness (shooting) against the way Mizzou plays... I think this is somewhat mitigated. Offensive efficiency, sharing the ball and Memphis relative shooting woes aren't as pronounced against a team like Mizzou that wants to play an uptempo game with a bunch of quick baskets for both teams.

DEFENSE (again, around 300 teams)

FG% Defense
Mizzou - 71
Memphis - 1
Comment - Mizzou's percentage is somewhat articifically deflated given their style of play. When you play like Mizzou, you will give up more layups.... no way around this. This shows Memphis is long, fast, and athletic defensively. They just make every shot you take a tough shot...

Rebounding Margin
Mizzou - 181
Memphis - 18
Comment - again, Mizzou rebounding margin, as with some other stats, are somewhat reflective of their style. When you double team guys all over the court, you inevitably leave some guys from the other team to go untouched to the basket... thus you're going to give up a high number of offensive rebounds... I'm sure Anderson believes we still give up too many, but with this style, there is no way around giving up more than usual. Really no comment on Memphis, other than to say they obviously are a good rebounding team.

Turnover margin -
Mizzou - 2
Memphis - 32
Comment - This along with assist/to ratio are what make Mizzou go. This is how they help offset for rebounding margin and allowing the other team to shoot a pretty high percentage. Memphis also seems pretty good here, which can be expected with their type of athletes.

Defensive efficiency by Pomeroy - this also is probably something like how many points you give up per possession
Mizzou - 9
Memphis - 1
Comment - both teams, speaking from a true defensive efficiency standpoint, are very good. Memphis is truly elite.

OVERALL DEFENSIVE STASTICAL ANALYSIS
Memphis is flat out an elite defensive team. In fact, unquestionably the BEST defensive team in the country. Mizzou has been very efficient offensively, and are very unselfish.... but at the end of the day, not overly talented. So unless Mizzou gets easy baskets, it's just hard to imagine Mizzou having a lot of success against Memphis in the halfcourt.

Overall analysis after looking at this... kind of looking from Mizzou perspective. I'm not sure how Anderson should approach this one.

Memphis has a freshmen point guard, who some say isn't a true point guard. That makes one believe that Mizzou's pressure "MAY" have an effect. However, if the pressure isn't working that well, it plays right into Memphis hands because they are long and athletic and not overly skilled from a shooting standpoint.... thus, Mizzou's style allows Memphis to just let their athletes go to work and play around the rim and you don't really take advantage of their shooting woes. So you say "back off the pressure" and make this a half court game, and make Memphis shoot and share the ball in the halfcourt. The issue with this is you would be changing your strategy that has mostly worked all season. You also would allow the most dominant defense in college basketball get set, and stifle your offense.

Both strategies have holes in them, but I'd go with what got you here.... with maybe one change. Play your full court style but drop back almost exclusively into a zone. You still play your game, and you make Memphis shoot when the game slows into halfcourt sets. Either way it's pretty tough, and if Memphis shoots well from deep they will win this one going away.... I don't believe there is anyway around that.

Unfortunately, if Mizzou shoots well, it doesn't necessarily mean they will win...but probably guarantees that they give Memphis all they can handle.

Tyus Edney

Lazar Hayward

**** off. :grr:

I hope Don Henley pees in your soy latte. :grr:

ROFL

Stick a fork in Mizzou.

KU-MU would be the most amazing Final Four matchup ever.

Yep... We've got no chance.

I just hope we keep it within 30.

Don't be ridiculous, Missouri is never a team of destiny. They always find some way to screw it up. :)

If we have a lead with under 1:00 to go and lose, I'm jumping off the nearest bridge.

Seriously.

ROFL

I'm a closet MU fan. I spent 6 years in Independence and Blue Springs, plus, all of my cousins (female) graduated from MU.

As I've mentioned before, I met my wife in 1996. She needed to use my phone often while hanging out and once, she was on the phone with "Ty".

"Ty? Ty who?"

"Ty Edney. He wanted to know if I wanted tickets to the Sac game this week.".

Tyus ****ing Edney!!!??

!@#@!#@%@#@%#$^%$&^%^*^&%(*&

Into the duck pond?

Don't be dramatic. And you really shouldn't scare the birds.

LMAO

That's a great story.

I've enjoyed this season.

That said, we are in for a slaughter Thursday night.

Seems to me whenever someone says, team of destiny? Before a team actually becomes a team of destiny, they never become a team of destiny.

Seems to me like MU can never win six games in a row away from there home court!

This needs to happen.

David Padgett (Hearnes)

dude, WHO CARES about March Madness... this is a bullshit secondary sport man... ROFL

I'm not watching the games. Doesn't mean I don't want Missouri to do well.

And while I may hate basketball, I love beaker pain. This Sweet 16 stuff has driven some of you into an absolute frenzy. :)

Yeah, there's a lot of pain as the defending National Champs and yet another Sweet Sixteen. The fact that MU has its one hundred year flood is just a side-show.

I would love for MU to win, but I just dont see how they stay within 10 points of Memphis. Mizzous offense is just too inconsistent. It's like we have no offensive system at all, there are no plays being run. We cant play like that against an elite team like Memphis. Defensively, we might be able to match them, but unless our offense is able to put some points on the board and learn how to shoot, we cant win. But Im all about an upset baby!!

Good job, dumb****, you nearly formed a complete sentence! :clap:

This is seriously all the discussion for this article?

Where are all you guys.

I don't think any real destiny has happened yet. You guys did well in the regular season (awesome at home), you guys beat who you were supposed to beat in the Big 12 tournament while other teams (including mine) faltered. The only real destiny I can see is the 4 point lead thing. That was pretty tough to overcome. The rest of it, you guys were just playin ball.

If you guys lose, I'd be hatemailing this poser for jinxing you.
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Agreed. It is premature, stupid and bad karma.

Seriously? That kind of ball movement and assist-to-turnover ratio doesn't just happen. They run a high movement offense and rarely sit still.

With that said, I'm quite nervous about the Memphis game.

Hi, I'm the cart.

You may not recognize me, as I seem to have passed the horse.

Destined to make the SS? Absolutely. EE? fraid not.

Good article. I'm surprised Mizzou is in the top 35 in FG% (and that Memphis is so low). They'll have to really try hard to be patient in their halfcourt offense. Looking forward to watching it... glad it's not on until 9:40 here, right after hockey.

Assuming at least one of them loses, this place is going to get brutal this weekend, especially if Mizzou advances further than Kansas. :(

THE STARTING FIVE

Each week from now through the end of the season, PowerMizzou.com will honor the top Tiger basketball players in a feature called The Starting Five.

This week, honor the five Tigers who had the best weekend while Mizzou moved on to the Sweet 16.

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Yep. It's nice to dream, but I hate reading this crap.

Thought this pic was interesting. Looks like Carroll did deflect that final shot. And that's no foul, though he probably shouldn't have been that close.

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IMHO...this season is now an unqualified success. They can lose by 20 to Memphis and it simply doesn't matter. 30 wins, Sweet 16, when you were supposed to finish 7th in the Big 12. They've exceeded every expectation any sane person had. The most out-of-nowhere thing I've ever seen to a Missouri basketball season. Or at least up there with the 14-0 conference season. If you had told me before the season started that this is what would happen...I'd have asked for what you were smoking.

Nobody saw this coming. The rest of the season is icing on the cake.

Agreed.

And now they're free to just go play. Nobody expects them to beat Memphis. Time to let it all hang out.

I'm a Hawkeye fan now rooting for Mizzou. Just like I do everytime they play the Cornholers.

Anyone else tend to think about Snyder's teams, and how he had 5 great athletes on the floor...and on the offensive side they would run down the court and stand around passing back and forth to each other...without moving a step?

To say this team has no offensive system is wrong.



I agree with the fact that no matter what happens Thursday, this season is pure success. Far more than I could have hoped for.

Are you really as miserable as you portray yourself on here? Dumb****?? I can't believe some people on here who can't make statements without resorting to personally insulting people unprovoked.

Team of Destiny sounds a bit over the top to me. At least, whenever I think of reporting like that, I think jinx - Madden cover level of jinx.


I'm elated with the Tigers' success, but realistically speaking, it will be tough for them to get through this weekend. Memphis then if they win, there's a really good chance they'll be matched up against UCON. That's a tough stretch.

Yeah... I think every Tiger fan agrees. Every one I know, anyway.

Yup.

Not every mizzurah fan thinks like you. One whom I work with thinks they are going to play UNC for the title.


Of course this is the same guy who will try to make the argument that mizzurah's basketball history is equal to KU. :spock:

I've always wondered why you type mizzourah? Is that how you pronounce it, or is that meant condescendingly?

Honestly, it's just nice to be in a position to have the chance to try. And you certainly can't just rule 'em out.

I hope they do whatever it takes to keep Anderson. Guy's cool as a cucumber, and his team reflects that.

Stark contrast to the antics Marquette's coach pulled when the game was on the line.

I was shocked he shook anyone's hand. Dude was completely out of line, and I'm surprised he wasn't called for a technical.

Thats not how I pronounce it.

Tough spot for the officials. At that point in the game, if you call him for a T, you (as an official) are blamed for deciding the game. And they want no part of that.

If he'd behaved the same way with say... ten minutes left, I bet he'd have been T'd up.

Destiny?

What a load of crap. This team has had to scrap and claw for everything its earned this year. "Destiny" suggests a level of serendipity that simply hasn't been present for this year's squad.

I agree. This is his third year, up until now neither the MU BB program and Anderson's system could expect to attract the better players. What he's done this year will go along way in helping recruiting. I am anxious to see what the next 3 years brings to MU Basketball.

He ha to have people come between him and the ref.

When he was covering his mouth while yelling, my dad was like, "How much you wanna bet he's saying BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT?"

He wouldn't cover up for that. Ratchet up the level of profanities about 5 notches.

Gabe DeShillmond.....LOL...What a tool....

Having said that, Both KU and MU are one of a
handful of games getting national exposure.
Good for the recruitment and good for the B12 coffers....

Congrats to both teams and good luck this week....

Mizzou can lick my ass, but I'd rather see a big12 team win over POS Memphis even if it is Mizzou.

One thing I should point out, Conf USA is a joke so their stats are inflated by that. Their defense is good, no doubt about that, but it's not head a shoulders above everyone elses like the stats indicate.

I mis-read the thread title. I thought it said "Team of Dysentery".

More like Team of Desitan.
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The thing about beaker fans is for every decent guy like Guru or Reerun, there is a noxious asshole like you or hawkchief. You can check every KU game thread - I haven't trolled or said a word to anybody. Everything I have said, in Mizzou threads, was in response to shit somebody else started. The post your idiotic buddy felt compelled to snipe me over was a good natured reply to Ari's good natured smack. But, as is ALWAYS the case, it's impossible to do that around here some jerkoff like you trying to ruin it.

And by the way, how miserable was I when I sent a sympathy card and playground donation to a total stranger who has never once had a kind word to say to or about me?

:eek:

LMAO

Ya know, there was a time when I never thought I'd see that guy on anyone's list of "Decent Beakers". I tend to agree, though...

Hell, I even get along with Ari and KC_Connection now.

Same goes for MU, KSU, Neb fans...etc.....

It's pretty much the truth. Every single thread on any MU topic immediately gets a bunch of beaker trolls acting like assholes just to get attention. But there are two KU threads on the first page and there isn't one single post from an MU fan on them.

Yes.

Perfect example of this: the thread entitled "All Signs Point to Lance Landing at Kansas." The thread starter posted an article about some kid being on the verge of committing to KU. And since there is no mention of Missouri in the article, naturally good ol' Skippy fires off a shot about Missouri in the the second reply. After that, over the next TWO DAYS, the entire thread is a discussion among KU and KSU fans about recruiting. Finally, in Post 98, a Missouri fan posts - something that is neither sniping or rude. There is a second post by another MU fan a couple of minutes later - again, neither sniping or rude.

Of course, we all know how a thread about a potential MU recruit would have turned out, don't we?

:shake:

You mean like Jarrid Famous?

:)

Things are looking up with this kid. (Who is a 6-11 center with good mobility and agility for his size. Lyons-esque, but with less of a jumper and a more tough-minded game).

Baby steps, frazod... baby steps :)

Dad pointed out something yesterday on the phone. He noticed Missouri wasn't wearing teams down in the Tourney like they did in regular season. Said he thought all the extended TV timeouts were giving the other teams more time to rest.

First off; I absolutely and totally appreciate any donation you sent in memory of my son and the playground being constructed in his honor. Thank You.



In my opinion; and I could be wrong here, but I did not see anything out of line or "sniping" as you called it. Merely a mention of being defending national champions and another sweet sixteen. Which you replied to by personally insulting the poster? To me what the poster stated in his total post was good natured smack in reference to MU's 100 year flood. I just don't get that. Just as I don't get calling me a noxious asshole.

That has been an issue for years; I think thats why in the past you have seen alot of upsets in the tourney. The better teams are alot of times better because of depth and it shows through a long season. You get in a tournament setting where depth does not matter as much and more stops in play it negates that advantage. Roy Williams always seemed to have that problem, (that and it seems he can't get it done with his own players). It is proving itself out this year through the first two rounds with MU. Carroll and Lyons are both playing several more minutes a game then before. I think there are something like 3 extra stops in play per game during the tournament.

I went back and checked all the posts you made so far this year - you don't post all that often, so it wasn't that difficult.

EVERY SINGLE POST you have made concerning Missouri for the past three months has been derogatory. Either a swipe at the team, or its fans, or at the least one of your endless misspellings (Mizery, Muzzorah, etc.), usually unsolicited. Nothing positive, no words of congratulations, not even a single neutral, non-biased comment. NEVER. You're either bashing or saying nothing at all. Do you really think people don't notice that? So please, spare me with the "gee what did I do?" bullshit. Nobody's buying it.

You know, I just wish with all my heart and soul that MU fans could start an MU thread, and that then a half dozen or more beakers would show up to said thread, and act like flaming bags of dog shit. That would be gr-

Oh.

Do I take swipes at mizzurah and their fans; absolutely, thats the fun of having a rival. No different than the endless "gay u", "beakers", and the like from MU fans.

My point is that you immedietely went to attacking someone personally when there was something said you regarded as sniping. I don't get that; I make broad generalizations about MU fans all the time. But find me one occasion where I have ever personally attacked any MU fan simply for being an MU fan or not agreeing with me. Not that I am by any means the model for fan behavior because God knows that I am not. I just don't understand the need to attack someone by hurling personal insults. :shrug:

You're just a big ****ing crybaby. That's really what it all boils down to.

The Tigers are having a great year. I enjoy seeing other Big 12 schools perform well in the spotlight. Of course, if and when they play KU....then I'm less supportive. Heh.

Seriously though, good luck Mizzou. :toast:

Unless, of course...we meet in the Final Four. :)

There's nothing fun about how you conduct yourself in this regard. No light-hearted banter, nothing positive, and you damn sure always seem to be somewhere else after Kansas loses.

What you call personal attacks I call reaping what you've sown. It really doesn't take much effort to say a couple of things here and there that could easily change the way others perceive you. If you don't want to get called for acting like an ass, don't act like one.

Will somebody locally-adjacent to this asshole please beat him with a lead pipe?

Thank you.

Hey, I think Maclin needs another beer. Chop chop!

ROFL

Nah. HoMo is the great unifier. If there's one thing even the most entrenched MU and KU fans can agree on, it's that he's the laughingstalk of the BB.

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ku fans: "We are very simple people. With very small penis. We cannot achieve much with so small penis."

Still crying I see.....

Great calls on games this year. You are teh sportz geneius!!!111

I see the barmaid can't quit me.

Hey, while you're up, I could use a scotch. And not that cheap blended shit, either.

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