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KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:08 PM

Draft Chat on draftcountdown.com
 
Begins soon. 6:30 CDT.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:11 PM

We should all go to it and ask dumb questions.

bdeg 04-15-2009 05:11 PM

I did that once, he ignored almost all of my questions and took really easy ones.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:12 PM

I'll give you a dollar if you ask him this...

"Why is it your mock does not jive with your player rankings but more jives with the crap Mayock spews, don't trust yourself?"

bdeg 04-15-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673347)
We should all go to it and ask dumb questions.

He picks what gets displayed, submit as many as you want but it only shows the one he's replying to.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:13 PM

To follow up what I said, he had Everette Brown in his top 10 forever..now all of the sudden he's 25th...

bdeg 04-15-2009 05:14 PM

That makes no sense, what has changed about him besides public opinion? He had a good pro day, I just don't get it. I'd still bet he goes top 10.

It was kinda funny though, when I registered on the forums there I made a long post in an Orakpo thread asking why he was thought of so highly of. No good answers, I copied the same question into the draft chat. 2 seconds later he posts it right along with seriously a whole paragraph basically conceding Orakpo was a 'one trick pony' but ignoring the bigger issue, saying he was athletic and explosive. I think it's kinda funny that he unquestionably(in my mind) prepared a response for that chat.

It was the only tough question I saw him take the whole night.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673358)
To follow up what I said, he had Everette Brown in his top 10 forever..now all of the sudden he's 25th...

ROFL I still dont understand why so many people dont like him. Brown should be a top 15 pick. Im willing to bet that a team that did their homework and scouted this guy properly will take a chance on him which is why I have Brown going to GB at #9

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5673368)
That makes no sense, what has changed about him besides public opinion? He had a good pro day, I just don't get it. I'd still bet he goes top 10.

Mike Mayock doesn't like him and has expressed that repeatedly...now all of the sudden he drops. Just like when he expressed his love for Curry he moved up...

These guys trust Mayock more than they trust themselves, it's lame.

milkman 04-15-2009 05:17 PM

So have you guys submitted questions for today?

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5673368)
That makes no sense, what has changed about him besides public opinion? He had a good pro day, I just don't get it. I'd still bet he goes top 10.

Scott wants Mayocks dick. Thats what happened.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5673375)
ROFL I still dont understand why so many people dont like him. Brown should be a top 15 pick. Im willing to bet that a team that did their homework and scouted this guy properly will take a chance on him which is why I have Brown going to GB at #9

That was where he had him...now he's 25th it's the Mayock affect Mayock doesn't like him now he falls in everyones mock.

I find it sad that these guys trust Mayock more than themselves talk about lacking confidence in yourself.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5673379)
Scott wants Mayocks dick. Thats what happened.

He wants his mock to be right so he's basically telling you, I trust Mayocks sources more than I just myself.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:21 PM

I think Mayock is pretty good at what he does. I mean, I put him far above Kiper. Kiper is probably the worst draft guy out there right now. But by no means should any other draft site move their board just because Mayock changes his decision on things.

milkman 04-15-2009 05:21 PM

I'm not seeing where this chat is.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5673396)
I'm not seeing where this chat is.

Go to the forum and click the link he posts in the topic for it's stickied at the top.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5673396)
I'm not seeing where this chat is.

It will say 4/15 draft chat underneath the pic of Sanchez. Go into that and it will begin shortly.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5673375)
ROFL I still dont understand why so many people dont like him. Brown should be a top 15 pick. Im willing to bet that a team that did their homework and scouted this guy properly will take a chance on him which is why I have Brown going to GB at #9

Here's a whole thread devoted to it..

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32505

Anyone who really thinks Maybin is this great rusher and Brown isn't is just asking to get a shitty player.

bdeg 04-15-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5673396)
I'm not seeing where this chat is.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/featur.../4-15-2009.php

milkman 04-15-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5673409)
It will say 4/15 draft chat underneath the pic of Sanchez. Go into that and it will begin shortly.

Thanks.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:27 PM

I also dare someone to ask him why in scouting reports that basically all black players are considered great athletes but are lazy with questionable work habits, while white players are hard workers with great motors but aren't very athletic.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:32 PM

Just sent a couple questions. One regarding Everette Brown sliding so far down.

aturnis 04-15-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673353)
I'll give you a dollar if you ask him this...

"Why is it your mock does not jive with your player rankings but more jives with the crap Mayock spews, don't trust yourself?"

What does a Mock have to do with his own rankings? Shouldn't a mock be based off of team needs and thinking?

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5673459)
What does a Mock have to do with his own rankings? Shouldn't a mock be based off of team needs and thinking?

When you move a guy from 9 to 25 that's fishy...

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:34 PM

We're famous!

[Comment From kcrockaholic4life]
Hey Scott, Why has Everette Brown moved so far down your mock when he was put so high not long ago?

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:34 PM

Oh shit he's actually going to address the Brown question.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:35 PM

ROFL he totally ignored my second part of the question and put what he wanted on it.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:35 PM

Now *I'm* famous!

[Comment From Andrew from Springfield]
Anything to the rumor that Julius Peppers can be traded to the Chiefs along with the Panthers' 2nd rounder and 5th rounder for the Chiefs' #3 overall?

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:36 PM

If he really believes that answer he gave I feel for teams..

There is no way that Orakpo, Maybin and Ayers are better than Brown especially Ayers and Maybin, Maybin is a long term project and Ayers is basically Tamba Hali.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:36 PM

Scott Wright: I hadn't heard that one but it seems like a high price to pay for Peppers. The rumor mill is swirling though and there is a lot of chatter that he will indeed be dealt.

Well there you have it?

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:37 PM

The Ayers and Maybin shit is pure creation of Mayock especially Ayers calling him the best D player in the draft and all that non sense.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:37 PM

I'd ask him a dickhole question but he won't take it I know...

DaneMcCloud 04-15-2009 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673358)
To follow up what I said, he had Everette Brown in his top 10 forever..now all of the sudden he's 25th...

I talked to a friend today that's an FSU booster. He said that Brown can have good games and then disappear. He feels he's a HUGE boom or bust guy and there's no way he'd take him in the top ten. He's far from Terrell Suggs.

I talked to another friend that's a D-1 coordinator that recruited and coached against Curry. He feels he's a solid player but there's no way in hell that he'd take him at #3. He thought that was completely foolish.

He said that if Stafford was gone and the Chiefs didn't like Sanchez, he'd take Monroe in a heartbeat.

That wouldn't be my ideal scenario but then again, I'm not a coach.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:38 PM

Chiefs fans totally raiding this Q&A so far...

[Comment From kcrockaholic4life]
Hey Scott why do you think the Chiefs will pass on Aaron Curry and select Eugene Monroe?

milkman 04-15-2009 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673495)
I'd ask him a dickhole question but he won't take it I know...

Well, hell, try it anyway.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:39 PM

Here's what someone should ask him..

Why is it a good idea for the Chiefs to take Monroe at 3? They already have their LT and if you do that all you do is set yourself up for Albert to ask for LT money and leave after his contract is up, it's a long term failure.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:40 PM

There I sent that last thing I posted.

milkman 04-15-2009 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673505)
Here's what someone should ask him..

Why is it a good idea for the Chiefs to take Monroe at 3? They already have their LT and if you do that all you do is set yourself up for Albert to ask for LT money and leave after his contract is up, it's a long term failure.

You should have added that it essentially uses the #3 overall to addres a need at RT or Guard, and how is that good value?

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:41 PM

Lets see if he skips that since with his last answer he seemed to ignore that Albert played LT well.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:41 PM

Chiefs fans just killing this Q&A...

[Comment From Bored of Education]
Do you feel that since the Chiefs acquired Cassel that they should protect their investment and that is why you have them picking Monroe and giving an OT that kind of money is much more 'worth it'?? What would you say the % that KC trades down? I feel its about 74.25%

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:42 PM

Hes going to hate Chiefs fans when this is done.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:42 PM

lmao

[Comment From Mitch King]
I may have a hard time finding a true position in the NFL. What position do you think will fit me the best?

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:42 PM

LOL he's not going to take my questions I don't think.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:43 PM

Someone quick make your name Aaron Maybin and say "scott I lost my steroids where are they?"

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:44 PM

I asked 2 questions about how taking Monroe is bad value with the pick of Albert last year...so far he's taken neither one.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:45 PM

Score another for the Planet.

6:44 [Comment From Andrew from Springfield]
What are the odds the Chiefs go QB with their #3 overall?

6:44 Scott Wright: 0%

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:45 PM

He doesn't like me much I asked like 8 questions and got nothing.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673535)
Someone quick make your name Aaron Maybin and say "scott I lost my steroids where are they?"

did it.

milkman 04-15-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673541)
I asked 2 questions about how taking Monroe is bad value with the pick of Albert last year...so far he's taken neither one.

Did you have submit your e-mail address in order to participate?

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5673555)
Did you have submit your e-mail address in order to participate?

No just type in a user name and then type in your question and hit submit.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5673555)
Did you have submit your e-mail address in order to participate?

Nope. Just put in a name.

milkman 04-15-2009 05:47 PM

Well, I asked two questions and got nuthin'.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5673563)
Well, I asked two questions and got nuthin'.

He has to approve of the questions. He wont take all, like Mecca's im sure he wont accept.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:49 PM

I don't think he wants to address how giving the Chiefs Monroe is bad value with Albert...it makes him look like he doesn't know what he's talking about when he brings up value.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:50 PM

If Percy Harvin really goes in the 2nd round some team is going to get awesome value.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673574)
If Percy Harvin really goes in the 2nd round some team is going to get awesome value.

Just asked what the chances are that Harvin goes to Indy.

milkman 04-15-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 5673566)
He has to approve of the questions. He wont take all, like Mecca's im sure he wont accept.

In other words, he's pussy.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:52 PM

[Comment From Mecca]
Also of the Chiefs take Monroe 3rd they are essentially using that pick on a guard or RT. Let's realize Branden Albert is on this team.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:52 PM

Holy balls he took a question from me.

milkman 04-15-2009 05:53 PM

Ah look, mecca made it in.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:53 PM

ROFL

Scott Wright: If the Chiefs select Eugene Monroe he will be the left tackle and Branden Albert will either move to right tackle or kick inside to guard like he did in college.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:54 PM

Scott Wright doesn't understand the question or value...nice job Scott.

KCrockaholic 04-15-2009 05:54 PM

ROFL great insight Scott.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:54 PM

One of you guys follow that up I date he's going to take another Albert question from me.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:55 PM

Milkman gets a question in.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673591)
One of you guys follow that up I date he's going to take another Albert question from me.

Done.

milkman 04-15-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5673582)
Holy balls he took a question from me.

You didn't really make it a question about value.

He refuses to addresss that issue.

I asked an easy question just ot see if I could get in.

Mecca 04-15-2009 05:58 PM

I asked a question about Brandon Pettigrew...

Direckshun 04-15-2009 05:59 PM

Anybody else amused at the fact that Daniel's backup is considered more than Daniel himself?

milkman 04-15-2009 05:59 PM

My first question, that he didn't take was about Cuury and why everyone thinks he can be a pass rusher.

Mecca 04-15-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5673610)
My first question, that he didn't take was about Cuury and why everyone thinks he can be a pass rusher.

NO ONE that likes him wants to address that.

milkman 04-15-2009 06:00 PM

I've also attempted to ask the value question, and I asked him if he refuses to answer tough questions what the point of this exercise was.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 06:02 PM

For you, Mecca:

[Comment From Andrew from Springfield]
Brandon Albert has played very well as a rookie LT for a dismal Chiefs team last year. Drafting Monroe would essentially move Albert over, and would be the equivolent of spending the #3 overall on a non-LT OL position. Do you honestly think Pioli would use such a huge pick on such a nominal improvement?

Direckshun 04-15-2009 06:02 PM

Scott Wright: I don't see it that way. You would be paying #3 overall money to a left tackle (Monroe) and then Albert would be a right tackle or Pro Bowl caliber guard and based on the money he got as a mid-first round pick last year that would be a great value.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 06:03 PM

YOU CAN'T KEEP THE PLANET DOWN, BABY.

[Comment From Mecca]
Why do teams appear to be enamored with Brandon Pettigrew? He doesn't appear to have the speed to stretch the seem or be a real threat in the receiving game. Yes he can block but is Daniel Graham version 2 really worth a 1st round pick?

Mecca 04-15-2009 06:03 PM

He thinks moving Albert is fine apparently..

And my question is up now.

Direckshun 04-15-2009 06:05 PM

Scott Wright: Brandon Pettigrew doesn't fit the mold of what we think of as a first round tight end these days but just because he isn't a Kellen Winslow or Vernon Davis doesn't mean he's not a very good player. He's just different and in many teams eyes that's a good thing. Pettigrew makes up for what he lacks in speed by being a phenomenal blocker and I can't overstate how impressed with him I was at the Senior Bowl. Brandon has a lot of fans in the scouting community and he wouldn't be as much of a reach in the Top 15 as most think.

We are killing this bitch.

7:04 [Comment From kcrockaholic4life]
Will Pat White be a QB or WR in the league?

milkman 04-15-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5673620)
For you, Mecca:

[Comment From Andrew from Springfield]
Brandon Albert has played very well as a rookie LT for a dismal Chiefs team last year. Drafting Monroe would essentially move Albert over, and would be the equivolent of spending the #3 overall on a non-LT OL position. Do you honestly think Pioli would use such a huge pick on such a nominal improvement?

He basically sidestepped the question with his answer.

bdeg 04-15-2009 06:05 PM

I missed the beginning what did he say about Brown

Mecca 04-15-2009 06:05 PM

Eh his answer is ok but I don't personally think Pettigrew will ever be anymore than Daniel Graham version 2....a TE that isn't a threat in the receiving game isn't that valuable.


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