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Tribal Warfare 06-27-2009 09:23 PM

Teicher: Chiefs running back Savage is getting help from someone who’s been there
 
Chiefs running back Savage is getting help from someone who’s been there
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Perhaps because he was once one himself, Priest Holmes has an affinity for undersized, undrafted Chiefs running backs who previously played for a Big 12 school.

That could explain why Holmes, who retired from the Chiefs and professional football two years ago, will mentor Dantrell Savage before the Chiefs head off for training camp late next month.

“That would be one of the best things for me between now and training camp,” said Savage, a 5-foot-8, 182-pound running back who joined the Chiefs last year from Oklahoma State. “We have a lot of the same features, our size and height and also being a free agent (out of college) trying to make it. Basically, I can’t lose. He’s basically going to show me the ropes, just fill my head with information about how to make it in the NFL and also how to make it once football is gone.

“He knows how hard it is for a free-agent running back to make it in the NFL. It’s also hard on me because I’m small and a lot of times small guys in the league don’t last long. Small guys have to work harder and show you want the job.”

Though his playing days are over, Holmes can still be reclusive when it comes to doing interviews. He didn’t return messages for this story.

He showed none of the same reluctance when Dwayne Williams, who lives in Kansas City and helps Holmes and Savage schedule promotional appearances, asked him to help Savage.

“I’ve not known anybody who understands the game on the field and breaks down film as well as Priest,” Williams said. “If there’s anybody who can give Dantrell an understanding of what it’s going to take to be successful in the NFL, it’s Priest.”

Savage and Holmes have talked several times over the phone but haven’t yet met in person. That meeting will happen soon after Savage heads to San Antonio to assist Holmes with his football camp.

The two will also work out together. Holmes’ conditioning sessions are legendary for their length and intensity.

“I’m definitely ready for that,” Savage said. “Our coaches at Oklahoma State would kill us with the workouts, so I’ll be ready for that. I went on the Internet to look up the workouts he does. Those are definitely hard workouts, but I’ll be ready.”

Like Savage, Holmes was an afterthought entering the NFL. At 5-9 and 210 pounds coming out of Texas, Holmes wasn’t drafted in 1997 and signed with Baltimore.

He played mainly on special teams as a rookie but rushed for more than 1,000 yards in his second season. Still, only the Chiefs were interested when he became a free agent in 2001 — and even they believed at the time of his signing he was too small to be a featured back.

Holmes proved that to be wrong his first year in Kansas City, leading the league in rushing. He had an even better season in 2002, and set an NFL record for touchdowns with 27 in 2003.

Few are predicting that kind of future for Savage, so perhaps his sessions with Holmes are coming at an opportune time. The Chiefs have a new coaching staff, and Savage will get a look during training camp.

But he lost an ally when former head coach Herm Edwards was fired. Savage is no better than third in line at running back behind Larry Johnson and Jamaal Charles. Kolby Smith is trying to return from last year’s season-ending knee surgery, and Jackie Battle and seventh-round draft pick Javarris Williams are also in the competition.

Savage is among those trying to win the job returning punts and kickoffs. But he will need to show he can help at running back if he’s going to have a career that resembles the one Holmes put together.

“Practice went real good,” Savage said. “We’re doing a lot of different things, a lot of new things. Running backs are catching the ball more out of the backfield. We’re lining up as a receiver, a slot receiver, and we’re going in motion. Last year, we didn’t do that much at all, so I think I have the skills to help out.”

Hammock Parties 06-27-2009 09:24 PM

I compared Savage to Priest once. Their running styles are not completely unalike.

Man we're deep at RB!

Skip Towne 06-27-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5868062)
I compared Savage to Priest once. Their running styles are not completely unalike.

Man we're deep at RB!

"not completely unalike"?

Hammock Parties 06-27-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5868066)
"not completely unalike"?

I wouldn't call them 100% similar. But there is a certain echo of Priest in Savage.

orange 06-27-2009 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5868066)
"not completely unalike"?

They both put one foot in front of the other.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2114/...363db8da62.jpg

RealSNR 06-27-2009 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5868071)
I wouldn't call them 100% similar. But there is a certain echo of Priest in Savage.

Does Savage like nachos?

Bam. First in with the nacho joke in the Priest Holmes thread. What do I win?

orange 06-27-2009 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5868074)
Does Savage like nachos?

Bam. First in with the nacho joke in the Priest Holmes thread. What do I win?

http://theweekendgrillers.com/custom-1/CowboyNachos.jpg

Deberg_1990 06-27-2009 10:03 PM

Savage sounds like the next Jessie Haynes!

Hammock Parties 06-27-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 5868087)
Savage sounds like the next Jessie Haynes!

Savage has already played in an NFL game. Did Haynes?

BossChief 06-27-2009 10:14 PM

He reminds me a little of Dante Hall when he wore #20 and played rb for us.

maybe be should switch to wr and focus on spcial teams to have a shot.

but what do I know?

ChiefJustice 06-27-2009 10:17 PM

http://www.callawayunitedway.com/Wrestling/Wrestl14.jpg

Damn......I was hoping for something completely different.

Buehler445 06-27-2009 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5868062)
I compared Savage to Priest once. Their running styles are not completely unalike.

Man we're deep at RB!

Double negative much?

JuicesFlowing 06-27-2009 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5868138)
Double negatvie much?

We don't use grammar rules here on Chiefs Planet!

JuicesFlowing 06-27-2009 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5868138)
Double negatvie much?

PS: You spelled "negative" incorrectly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stevieray 06-27-2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing (Post 5868147)
We don't use grammar rules here on Chiefs Planet!

...its called ChiefsPlanet

:D

RealSNR 06-27-2009 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 5868162)
...its called ChiefsPlanet

:D

moran...

ShortRoundChief 06-28-2009 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 5868097)
He reminds me a little of Dante Hall when he wore #20 and played rb for us.

maybe be should switch to wr and focus on spcial teams to have a shot.

but what do I know?


I got to say this and I know I'm gonna get flamed for it, but here it goes.


Dante Hall was a flash in the pan. He benefitted from a new offensive minded coach who saw something in the return skills. He benefitted from that coach knowing how to light a fire under his ass and get him in the program. A stop or maybe more he's not done much. My point is I don't think anybody's gonna build us a flash in the pan mini-superstar. vermeil just got lucky.

milkman 06-28-2009 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5868261)
I got to say this and I know I'm gonna get flamed for it, but here it goes.


Dante Hall was a flash in the pan. He benefitted from a new offensive minded coach who saw something in the return skills. He benefitted from that coach knowing how to light a fire under his ass and get him in the program. A stop or maybe more he's not done much. My point is I don't think anybody's gonna build us a flash in the pan mini-superstar. vermeil just got lucky.

Flamed?

Why?

Sounds about right to me.

KCUnited 06-28-2009 08:31 AM

I had a dream that this midget child was running through a field and getting flat backed by corn stalks that were blowing in the wind and thats when I knew I needed to mentor Dantrell /Priest.

Mr. Krab 06-28-2009 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5868261)
I got to say this and I know I'm gonna get flamed for it, but here it goes.


Dante Hall was a flash in the pan. He benefitted from a new offensive minded coach who saw something in the return skills. He benefitted from that coach knowing how to light a fire under his ass and get him in the program. A stop or maybe more he's not done much. My point is I don't think anybody's gonna build us a flash in the pan mini-superstar. vermeil just got lucky.

Dante Hall lost his balls when he got hit hard by Green Bay and Baltimore. He was never the same.

Crush 06-28-2009 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefJustice (Post 5868102)
http://www.callawayunitedway.com/Wrestling/Wrestl14.jpg

Damn......I was hoping for something completely different.


OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM!!!!!!!!

RippedmyFlesh 06-28-2009 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5868071)
I wouldn't call them 100% similar. But there is a certain echo of Priest in Savage.

I think you are right,
Priest seemed to run in a style that would make you think he was bigger than he actually was. Not a speed burner but just a tough SOB to bring down.
Savage runs like that too.

Buehler445 06-28-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing (Post 5868153)
PS: You spelled "negative" incorrectly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn dude. Someone took their fail pill today.

FAX 06-28-2009 01:56 PM

Being a return man in the NFL is like being the guy who field tests bullet proof vests for the Army.

When Dante was in his peak, we had a fabulous ST squad across the board including Derrick Blaylock who was excellent in his role. Coincidence? I think not.

FAX

FAX 06-28-2009 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5868679)
I think you are right,
Priest seemed to run in a style that would make you think he was bigger than he actually was. Not a speed burner but just a tough SOB to bring down.
Savage runs like that too.

The thing about Priest that impressed me was his patience. He was a very patient runner. Plus, he followed his blocks as well as anybody. Priest and T-Rich made one heck of a backfield.

FAX

Skip Towne 06-28-2009 02:14 PM

As Lenny once noted "Priest is just stronger than the guys trying to tackle him".

RippedmyFlesh 06-28-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5868996)
The thing about Priest that impressed me was his patience. He was a very patient runner. Plus, he followed his blocks as well as anybody. Priest and T-Rich made one heck of a backfield.

FAX

Very intelligent player. He would also seem to slip out in the flat at just the right time.
He had such a good feel for the game.He played bigger than 5'9 213.Thats the same size I was in high school. When I would see him pick up a LB 3/4 of a foot taller and 50 lbs heavier that's when I knew he was my fav KC RB of all time.

OnTheWarpath15 06-28-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 5868261)
I got to say this and I know I'm gonna get flamed for it, but here it goes.


Dante Hall was a flash in the pan. He benefitted from a new offensive minded coach who saw something in the return skills. He benefitted from that coach knowing how to light a fire under his ass and get him in the program. A stop or maybe more he's not done much. My point is I don't think anybody's gonna build us a flash in the pan mini-superstar. vermeil just got lucky.

Anyone who flames you for that is a ****tard.

You hit the nail squarely on the head.

stevieray 06-28-2009 09:14 PM

I guess I'm a ***tard.

What's the average NFL career? hmmm...

When Dante was on the field he had to be accounted for...

I think the years of waiting are turning people into bitter cynics. understandable.


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