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angelo 06-29-2009 10:00 AM

P.O.S. Brother in Law
 
If he could have formulated a sentence. My brother in law should have written a book on how to screw up your children.

He was a dead beat, If he could hold a job long enough to earn a paycheck he would blow it on booze and drugs. His money was his and My sister was left to take care of the two kids on her meager salary. If she ever mentioned divorce he would go nuts and say he was going to kill himself.

My sister finally left him 3 years ago. He still managed to get visitation with the kids.

Invariably my sister would have to go get the kids because he would get drunk and start yelling at the kids.

Same thing happen last week except for a twist. The Mxther Fxcker tells my niece (who idolizes him as this tragic figure) and my nephew (who does everything to get some form of approval) That they are dead to him.

Once again he threatens to kill himself and starts waving a gun around.
Luckily his family steps in and takes the kids home. Then they go back to help the rest of the family deal with him.

He had thought the gun was unloaded and put it to his head.
What he did not realize was that in his drunken stupor he grabbed the wrong gun.

There was no click, just a small explosion and now there are two kids blaming themselves for this stupid asses death.

I am so pissed

Thanks for letting me rant

Ang

petegz28 06-29-2009 10:04 AM

They will come to realize that it was not their fault but sadly it will take a long time or a lot of counseling. It is a sad situation for them, either way.

blaise 06-29-2009 10:04 AM

At least he didn't shoot anyone else.

Jenson71 06-29-2009 10:04 AM

Wow. That is messed up. I hope the kids come to some perspective on all that. Maybe counseling or something.

ToxSocks 06-29-2009 10:05 AM

Sounds like he wasn't worth the wasted bullet. Hope this doesn't hurt the kids too much...

Buehler445 06-29-2009 10:06 AM

Jesus Christ. That is horrible.

Hopefully the kids can move on from this.

My condolences to the kids.
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Buck 06-29-2009 10:07 AM

Sorry to hear that. The kids didn't witness it did they?

KcFanInGA 06-29-2009 10:07 AM

Wow. Just wow. Definately get the kids to a therapist, they will hate it, later they will be glad for it. My wife saw a therapist at an early age, and didn't think it helped at the time. Looking back, she thinks it maybe kept her sane. I am so sorry to hear this, will pray for you and your family, although my prayers may be pretty far down on the list so to speak.

angelo 06-29-2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71 (Post 5870257)
Wow. That is messed up. I hope the kids come to some perspective on all that. Maybe counseling or something.

We got them into to counseling the next day.

Ang

Skip Towne 06-29-2009 10:07 AM

Sad story. Sorry to hear it.

cdcox 06-29-2009 10:10 AM

Just terrible for the kids. Sorry that your family has to deal with this.

seclark 06-29-2009 10:14 AM

tragic.
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FAX 06-29-2009 10:16 AM

Jesus. Unbelievable. What a tool.

The children will be okay, though. Humans have an incredible ability to adapt and adjust to even the most outrageous events. Give them lots of love and time and they'll be fine.

FAX

Gonzo 06-29-2009 10:19 AM

Thining of the herd on this one. Hope the kids are ok.
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phisherman 06-29-2009 10:20 AM

some people just love the drama. i don't get it. it's a shame the kids have to deal with something like that.

DaFace 06-29-2009 10:21 AM

:eek: That's horrible. So sorry to hear about that.

Boyceofsummer 06-29-2009 10:25 AM

I hate when people give.....................
 
guns, drugs & alcohol a bad name. Not to mention the the world is against me attitude.

Mile High Mania 06-29-2009 10:28 AM

Incredibly tragic and I can't imagine what these two children are dealing with... I hope the family considers counseling now, for the kids.

Frazod 06-29-2009 10:28 AM

As bad as the situation is, the silver lining is he won't be around to **** things up any further. Good riddance.

Mile High Mania 06-29-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5870334)
As bad as the situation is, the silver lining is he won't be around to **** things up any further. Good riddance.

While this is true... his last action is about as bad as he could do for these kids.

morphius 06-29-2009 10:31 AM

I have a bother-in-law that is almost a big as tool as this guy, without the threatening to kill himself piece. Of course he has a felony charge, so he can't own a gun at least. Its almost one of those things that this might end up being the best thing for the kids in the long run.

Frazod 06-29-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 5870339)
While this is true... his last action is about as bad as he could do for these kids.

I understand that, but God only knows what else he might have done had he lived.

Mr. Flopnuts 06-29-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5870345)
I understand that, but God only knows what else he might have done had he lived.

I'm not happy the kids have to deal with it, but the world is probably a better place than it was.

angelo 06-29-2009 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5870334)
As bad as the situation is, the silver lining is he won't be around to **** things up any further. Good riddance.

I have thought the same thing my self.
At least he can do no more damage.

The only thing that upsets me is that my niece and nephew have to deal with the pain.

Ang

sparkky 06-29-2009 10:44 AM

sorry to hear the sad story.
wishing the best for the family and kids.

Frazod 06-29-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by angelo (Post 5870365)
I have thought the same thing my self.
At least he can do no more damage.

The only thing that upsets me is that my niece and nephew have to deal with the pain.

Ang

Well, all you can do is be there for them as much as you can. Good luck to all of you.

kepp 06-29-2009 11:15 AM

Wow...just horrible. The kids didn't SEE it happen, did they?

tooge 06-29-2009 11:18 AM

how old are the kids?

Mr. Flopnuts 06-29-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelo (Post 5870365)
I have thought the same thing my self.
At least he can do no more damage.

The only thing that upsets me is that my niece and nephew have to deal with the pain.

Ang

Be strong Ang. They're going to need everyone that will be there for them.

CoMoChief 06-29-2009 11:20 AM

Its a damn good thing he didn't pull that trigger and kill those kids.

Now its just important to let the kids know that he had major problems and that the killing wasn't his fault.

kepp 06-29-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5870452)
Its a damn good thing he didn't pull that trigger and kill those kids.

No kidding. This could have been much worse.

wild1 06-29-2009 12:17 PM

it's too bad they had to see it.

(yes, just that they had to see it)

Braincase 06-29-2009 12:32 PM

That's terrible. Prayers to the kids and surviving members of the family.

InChiefsHeaven 06-29-2009 12:36 PM

Not to be a dick, but how do we know that he didn't mean to grab that gun? It's not like you could ask him if he screwed up and grabbed the wrong one...

...just sayin'. There's a good chance that he DID mean to off himself...

DJ's left nut 06-29-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 5870663)
Not to be a dick, but how do we know that he didn't mean to grab that gun? It's not like you could ask him if he screwed up and grabbed the wrong one...

...just sayin'. There's a good chance that he DID mean to off himself...

Kinda my thought. There's really no way of telling.

Guy is (was) a dickhead that would've done far more damage long-term than this had he not offed himself. Take steps to mitigate the damage, count your blessings and move on.

This is likely a good thing for all remaining parties.

wutamess 06-29-2009 01:09 PM

Only bad part to this story was the kids... Sucks for them.

Mr. Flopnuts 06-29-2009 01:12 PM

Tape this to the casket at his funeral.

http://www.theboxset.com/images/revi...ombstone03.jpg

wutamess 06-29-2009 01:13 PM

Wait... did he do it in front of them or waited until the kids left. Did he do it when the family returned or what?

WHEN did he do it?

wutamess 06-29-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5870736)
Tape this to the casket at his funeral.

http://www.theboxset.com/images/revi...ombstone03.jpg

ROFL

BigMeatballDave 06-29-2009 01:16 PM

Wow. He was a piece of work. I feel so sorry for the kids. I hope they can get therapy. Financially, he is worth more dead than alive. Your sister should get SSI for them.

Pioli Zombie 06-29-2009 02:04 PM

Those poor kids. I feel for them.

This connects to Big Richards thread. There is and was NOTHING the family could have done. It was HIS disease. Someone will need to pound this into the kids heads over and over, and your sister too.
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Adept Havelock 06-29-2009 02:17 PM

Damn shame for the kids. :shake:

TinyEvel 06-29-2009 02:22 PM

IF ANY OF YOU KNOW SOMEONE IN THIS SIMILAR SITUATION, FIND THE STRENGTH TO GET THEM HELP.

(This has nothing spoken about you, Angelo. I see news stories like this all the time, it rips me up, and I wonder "Why are they showing this?" the only reason I can find some good result is to figure people might see a pending situation of their own or someone they know. My friend's dad died, and it made me spend more time with my dad.

Frazod 06-29-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 5870740)
Wait... did he do it in front of them or waited until the kids left. Did he do it when the family returned or what?

WHEN did he do it?

If I read it right, it sounds like the children weren't there at the time, that someone took them elsewhere right before it happened.

I certainly hope that is the case.

angelo 06-29-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 5870439)
Wow...just horrible. The kids didn't SEE it happen, did they?

The had already been taken out of the home.

They are on the cusp of being teenagers.

I am trying to be there for them, but I have always been the disciplinarian. Their father and I obviously did not get along and they knew it. I have spent time with both every day since sometimes just sitting in silence.

I want to thank everyone for their kindness.

Ang

teedubya 06-29-2009 04:10 PM

This sucks... what a douche.

KCChiefsMan 06-29-2009 04:10 PM

damn that sucks, hopefully the kids will realize that the world is better off.

Simply Red 06-29-2009 04:11 PM

damn.

Phobia 06-29-2009 04:24 PM

My sister's FIL did the same thing last year. Tore the family up for a while but they're better for it now.

Iowanian 06-29-2009 04:28 PM

Darwin wins, These poor kids lose.


Hopefully, they'll accept that he was an asshole with some serious problems and it was in no way their fault, and at some point, a more stable father figure will enter their lives and treat them the way a kid should be treated.

Dave Lane 06-29-2009 08:21 PM

At least he's dead sad as that maybe. The kids will heal and it will be better for them in the long run.

RJ 06-29-2009 09:33 PM

Wow. So horrible for those children. What a pussy to take your own life when you have kids to care for.

FAX 06-29-2009 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelo (Post 5871133)
The had already been taken out of the home.

They are on the cusp of being teenagers.

I am trying to be there for them, but I have always been the disciplinarian. Their father and I obviously did not get along and they knew it. I have spent time with both every day since sometimes just sitting in silence.

I want to thank everyone for their kindness.

Ang

Huge and mega prop things to you, Mr. angelo. This is absolutely the very best thing you can do for those kids - right now and for the foreseeable future. If nothing else, just listen. Even if they act out, throw fits, or discuss their feelings quietly and maturely - just listen. It's the very best thing.

When my father died (I was 13), a local attorney called my house to speak with me. He was a friend of the family and offered to meet with me. Just go fishing or have a coke or whatever - you know. My response wasn't good. I shut him down and shut him out. Angrily and rudely. I was pissed off and that was the only way I knew how to express it. It was also a way for me to test people to see if they really cared or they were just going through the motions (although I didn't realize that's what I was doing at the time). Sincerity is important to kids and they can spot a fake from a mile away. Anyhow, the attorney friend could have said, "Oh well, call me if you need something." and hung up. Instead, he hung in there. Eventually, he became an iconic and lifelong mentor to me. Listening is the key - no matter what you're listening to.

FAX


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