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Hammock Parties 07-23-2009 05:04 PM

Charles wants to take Larry's job
 
Despite what you may think, I approve of this. It is only GOOD for the team. Hopefully Larry doesn't throw a hissy fit.

PS - Shitty article, my god.

http://www.panews.com/sports/local_s...l?start:int=15

This should work to Jamaal's benefit, as he has better hands and speed than the likes of Larry Johnson.

Jamaal explained that Haley has given the impression that he knows what the second-year player is capable of. Charles said that Haley knows he can beat out Johnson for the starting position.

So with that news, and his experiences from his rookie year, Jamaal went to work over the offseason. He's put on six pounds over the summer with a strict meal plan and workout routine.

He said he lifts weights, eats, sleeps, runs (in that order) and then starts over. He does this three times a day. Before this regimen starts, he has breakfast. He also regularly gets in a late snack that includes an ocassional bowl of ice cream.

"I'm eating full meals," Jamaal explained. "That's a big difference from what I've done in the past. "I'm mostly eating pasta and fish — nothing fried and nothing with a lot of fat. And I'm eating lots of rice — a lot of rice.

"They want me at 208 (pounds). So I've been busting my butt. They want 208, I'm going to give them 208. I don't want to be any bigger, though. I'm at 207 right now and I'm going to get to 208 and stay there."

Jamaal said the biggest lesson he learned from his first year was the work that he needs to put in.

"I just thought I was working hard before the season started last year. But really, I was just happy to be there," he said. "I didn't work enough. I didn't want that to happen again so I've been busting my tail."

About dueling for the starting spot with LJ, Charles said it is game on.

"I like Larry," Jamaal said. "We are friends in the locker room. And I'm going to be a good teammate, but I plan to take it from him. I think my coaches realize they need me. They are going to have to give me that chance. I have fresher legs and our offense plays to my advantage. I think they are going to use me a lot like Marshall Faulk."

Also this summer, along with spending time with family, Jamaal has joined up with former teammates such as James Johnson in 7-on-7 games against current Memorial players.

He said it is important to him to return home and be apart of Memorial's program because no one really did that for him.

Aside from new head coach Kenny Harrison, he said.

Jamaal added that Harrison already has the Titans heading in the right direction. He explained that Port Arthur fans need to relax, be patient and eventually the right group of kids will come along. He said it takes a good group with the right talent to really get a program going.

Charles will return to Kansas City this week. Camp starts on July 31.

The Franchise 07-23-2009 05:06 PM

He'll be better in our offense anyways.

I mean...he can block can't he?

Hammock Parties 07-23-2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 5920617)
He'll be better in our offense anyways.

I mean...he can block can't he?

Remember when he got Brodie destroyed?

The Franchise 07-23-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5920618)
Remember when he got Brodie destroyed?

Yeah that's true. I mean it should be pretty easy for a rookie RB to block two people.....right?

FAX 07-23-2009 05:13 PM

I like this. A lot.

FAX

OnTheWarpath15 07-23-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 5920620)
Yeah that's true. I mean it should be pretty easy for a rookie RB to block two people.....right?

LMAO

wild1 07-23-2009 05:15 PM

What job, picking up 2 yards on 3rd and 3?

Hammock Parties 07-23-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

What job, picking up 2 yards on 3rd and 3?
And here...we...go...

http://i28.tinypic.com/2e0k0gw.png

pr_capone 07-23-2009 05:23 PM

I seriously want to see Charles succeed in supplanting LJ as the starter.

If he does, I will need to go out and purchase a new jersey.

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-23-2009 05:34 PM

Great attitude and work ethic. It's all good!

Rasputin 07-23-2009 05:36 PM

Charles in charge

Valiant 07-23-2009 05:40 PM

This is not good for you if true Gochiefs.. Well at least for your bet it is not..

LaChapelle 07-23-2009 05:41 PM

Is it time for LJ to put his depends on?

KCChiefsMan 07-23-2009 05:43 PM

nothing wrong with a guy that has a spark up his butt. I want to see him take it from Larry, what Todd Haley needs to do is bench LJ week 1, tell him that JC outplayed him and then that will piss Larry off and maybe he will actually go out there and play hard?? I dunno, but that would be a nice 1 - 2 combo if they both play hard and well.

Ebolapox 07-23-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 5920688)
nothing wrong with a guy that has a spark up his butt....

NTTAWWT.

FAX 07-23-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 5920688)
nothing wrong with a guy that has a spark up his butt. I want to see him take it from Larry, what Todd Haley needs to do is bench LJ week 1, tell him that JC outplayed him and then that will piss Larry off and maybe he will actually go out there and play hard?? I dunno, but that would be a nice 1 - 2 combo if they both play hard and well.

Good plan, Mr. KCChiefsMan. Very good plan. Then, maybe they can arrange for the entire Chiefs staff and team to gather around in a great big circle before the games and chant, "Larry's a big baaabbeee!" over and over. Then, they could put a little cap on his head, give him a bottle, and wheel him out on the field in a stroller.

That oughta do it.

FAX

pr_capone 07-23-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5920697)
Good plan, Mr. KCChiefsMan. Very good plan. Then, maybe they can arrange for the entire Chiefs staff and team to gather around in a great big circle before the games and chant, "Larry's a big baaabbeee!" over and over. Then, they could put a little cap on his head, give him a bottle, and wheel him out on the field in a stroller.

That oughta do it.

FAX

I would pay money to see that. :)

teedubya 07-23-2009 07:26 PM

I like this guys attitude! love it.

Reerun_KC 07-23-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5920984)
I like this guys attitude! love it.

Much better than crybaby diapers LJ....

FAX 07-23-2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5920984)
I like this guys attitude! love it.

No kidding. A guy who actually wants to start for the Chiefs? Hoodathunkit?

I'm so used to hearing from players like Gonzo and Waters and LJ, this is as refreshing as a cold, fresh, autumnal breeze after an hour in the sauna with 4 young, nubile, blond girls trying to peek up your towel.

FAX

sodcat 07-23-2009 08:34 PM

Just hold on to the ball!

DaWolf 07-23-2009 08:52 PM

Good to hear. However, it's best for the team if LJ shows up and does what he is capable of, IE run over defenses, and Charles plays the role of Darren Sproles. I'd much rather have a solid 1-2 combo than Charles beating out LJ thus making LJ useless...

Hammock Parties 07-23-2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 5921182)
Good to hear. However, it's best for the team if LJ shows up and does what he is capable of, IE run over defenses, and Charles plays the role of Darren Sproles. I'd much rather have a solid 1-2 combo than Charles beating out LJ thus making LJ useless...

This.

Haley's not dumb, anyway. Regardless of who starts I bet they both touch the ball at least 200 times.

RustShack 07-23-2009 09:04 PM

Or maybe Haley told him that to make LJ work harder.

milkman 07-23-2009 09:08 PM

The sooner that LJ is history in KC, the better,

dirk digler 07-23-2009 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 5920984)
I like this guys attitude! love it.

Me too. No more coddling these guys.

rambleonthruthefog 07-24-2009 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodcat (Post 5921129)
Just hold on to the ball!

i've got my worrys

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-24-2009 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5921065)
No kidding. A guy who actually wants to start for the Chiefs? Hoodathunkit?


FAX

Excellent point, Mr. Nemesis. The development of both the team and franchise mentality is immensely important.
An appreciation of the long-standing rivalries, the desire to defeat your rival at all costs, and realizing that this isn't just a job to put money in your bank account.

Mr. Johnson was once asked if he had been hipped to the Chiefs/Raiders rivalry, the contention between our Benevolent Founder and Mr. Poopy Depends, and he brushed it off as being irrelevant and not worth his precious time.

Unacceptable.

Hammock Parties 07-24-2009 12:13 AM

You're thinking of Herm.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-24-2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 5921509)
You're thinking of Herm.

Him too.

Actually, I'm trying to NOT think of Herm. Ever.


You are not helping.:p

Micjones 07-24-2009 12:44 AM

The emphasis on the work leading up to the season is going to payoff big time.
I'm surprised Herman Edwards couldn't see how much that contributed to the failings of his team last season.

Good to hear that Charles is motivated.
This can only raise the level of competition and subsequently the productivity of Chiefs backs on the field.

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2009 12:58 AM

Except that Charles couldn't stay on the field due to constant "hamstring" injuries.

The guy had 67 carries last year and missed a shit-ton of critical downs.

Money talks and Bullshit walks...

Hammock Parties 07-24-2009 01:00 AM

He also dropped more passes and fumbled more balls than Larry Johnson.

So yeah, we'll see. :D

Tribal Warfare 07-24-2009 01:15 AM

That's cool players like that need that type of attitude.

JuicesFlowing 07-24-2009 01:34 AM

Better hands than LJ? I seem to recall Charles wearing gloves made of Blue Bonnet last season.

Rausch 07-24-2009 01:51 AM

I'd also like to take LJ's job...

the Talking Can 07-24-2009 07:32 AM

as long as he doesn't take Jay-Z, LJ doesn't care....

OnTheWarpath15 07-24-2009 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5921668)
as long as he doesn't take Jay-Z, LJ doesn't care....


LMAO

Red Dawg 07-24-2009 07:40 AM

Jammal Charles is more than just a tough guy name.

Baby Lee 07-24-2009 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5921065)
No kidding. A guy who actually wants to start for the Chiefs? Hoodathunkit?

I'm so used to hearing from players like Gonzo and Waters and LJ, this is as refreshing as a cold, fresh, autumnal breeze after an hour in the sauna with 4 young, nubile, blond girls trying to peek up your towel.

FAX

Waitagatdummedminnit!! You're in a sauna with 4 young nubile blondes trying to peek up your towel, . . . and you're looking forward to blowie from Autumnwind?

InChiefsHeaven 07-24-2009 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5921682)
Waitagatdummedminnit!! You're in a sauna with 4 young nubile blondes trying to peek up your towel, . . . and you're looking forward to blowie from Autumnwind?

Excellent point, Mr. Baby Lee. I'm now looking at Mr. Fax differently...

Beerthirty 07-24-2009 06:59 PM

I have a wierd feeling that Jamal Charles, Javarris Williams, and another will be the running backs and Larry will be cut. It might be so they dont have to pay him and Haley can prove that he is a coach that wants to put his stamp on the team. It will be interesting.

LaChapelle 07-24-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing (Post 5921542)
Better hands than LJ? I seem to recall Charles wearing gloves made of Blue Bonnet last season.

Were they thrown at his feet like 60+% of passes thrown LJ's way? It was just beyond sad.

JuicesFlowing 07-24-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 5923299)
Were they thrown at his feet like 60+% of passes thrown LJ's way? It was just beyond sad.

I don't know, but Charles couldn't catch a punt to save his life last year.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-24-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing (Post 5923313)
I don't know, but Charles couldn't catch a punt to save his life last year.

I always figured Charles to be a "I can't believe it's not Butter"-guy, and LJ to be more of a "Mazola"-man myself.;)

milkman 07-25-2009 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas Fury (Post 5921661)
True. It is also stupid IMO to beat Charles up this year for a team that is not going anywhere. No reason to run him into the wall on first and second down type plays. Get him touches, but don't overdo it. He will still have something left in the tank when the team gets better. Johnson....not so much. It is kind of like all the dumb ass Cowboy fans that think Felix Jones should start. Why? They have two guys that are more suited to getting tough yards. You can't look at the stats for these speedy guys and expect them to keep it up in a feature back role. They would break all the records if they could keep that up. No, they would just get hurt and be worthless.

RBs are a dime a dozen, and Charles is a better fit to run out the spread, which we'll probably see the Chiefs run about 60% f snaps.

When the Chiefs are ready to be competitive, it won't be all that difficult for them to find another RB if Charles is out of gas.

And with RBs being a dime a dozen, I wouldn't give a nickel for two dozen LJs.

EyePod 07-25-2009 10:40 AM

What a bunch of crap. There's no way that Jamaal could be an every down back. He will be amazing as a screen RB or as a dump outlet for a 2 RB lineup. Sorry bud, but that's it.

milkman 07-25-2009 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5924396)
What a bunch of crap. There's no way that Jamaal could be an every down back. He will be amazing as a screen RB or as a dump outlet for a 2 RB lineup. Sorry bud, but that's it.

Why not?

WhitiE 07-25-2009 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerthirty (Post 5923276)
I have a wierd feeling that Jamal Charles, Javarris Williams, and another will be the running backs and Larry will be cut. It might be so they dont have to pay him and Haley can prove that he is a coach that wants to put his stamp on the team. It will be interesting.

i think thats goin to happen next season. i think their going to try and get lj as many yards as they can and then try and trade him and if they cant their goin to cut him.

JuicesFlowing 07-25-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5923356)
I always figured Charles to be a "I can't believe it's not Butter"-guy, and LJ to be more of a "Mazola"-man myself.;)

Either way, LJ can afford the best on the market.

RustShack 07-25-2009 11:19 AM

Charles gained weight, I'm assuming LJ lost some with the majority of the team... lets see what happens. You would think Charles would if the system better, but you have to wonder why they drafted Williams("poor mans LJ") if LJ doesn't fit the system.

JuicesFlowing 07-25-2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5924445)
Charles gained weight, I'm assuming LJ lost some with the majority of the team... lets see what happens. You would think Charles would if the system better, but you have to wonder why they drafted Williams("poor mans LJ") if LJ doesn't fit the system.

The Patriots continue to draft QBs with Brady, it's just part of the process. I think Charles has a part, I just don't see him as a workhorse, every down back.

RustShack 07-25-2009 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicesFlowing (Post 5924452)
The Patriots continue to draft QBs with Brady, it's just part of the process. I think Charles has a part, I just don't see him as a workhorse, every down back.

The Patriots draft the same types of QB's though. People think LJ doesn't fit the system, yet the draft a RB like LJ. That is completely different from the Patriots QB situation.

Mr. Krab 07-25-2009 11:41 AM

It's funny how i see all this love for Charles being optimistic about taking a starters job but when Thigpen did virtually the same thing awhile back people were crapping their diapers about it.

JuicesFlowing 07-25-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5924471)
It's funny how i see all this love for Charles being optimistic about taking a starters job but when Thigpen did virtually the same thing awhile back people were crapping their diapers about it.

I'm not optimistic about Charles at all. If he produces, I'll change my mind. Thigpen moved the ball (thanks to Gailey's adaptive play-calling) and it helped the offense at the time. I'm in the "whatever works" frame of mind, but I think LJ has something in the tank. The shittiest o-line in football and Mike Solari as OC will ruin any running back.

bdeg 07-25-2009 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5924471)
It's funny how i see all this love for Charles being optimistic about taking a starters job but when Thigpen did virtually the same thing awhile back people were crapping their diapers about it.

world of difference between 'I've already earned the starting position,' and 'I'm going to work my ass off to try to become the starter'

Coach 07-25-2009 12:25 PM

Sure, if he can somehow find a way to detach that dildo out of his ass, so he can stop getting injured alot.

Dr. Johnny Fever 07-25-2009 12:34 PM

Go Jamaal. We need more of that attitude.

Mr_Tomahawk 07-25-2009 12:46 PM

hmmmm...

I feel like this article goes hand in hand with this older one...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11916896

Kansas City Chiefs

Overrated: RB Larry Johnson. He isn't close to being what he was a few years back. Elite? Not anymore.

Underrated: WR Dwayne Bowe. He is a big, fluid receiver who would be a marquee name anywhere else. He makes it look easy when he runs.

Beerthirty 07-25-2009 02:52 PM

I think they will cut Larry this year if Javarris, Jamal, and Kolby show any kind of promise. When they went to court and they said they didnt have to pay him if he got cut, it marked the end. If he plays one year they will have to pay him.

Skip Towne 07-25-2009 03:06 PM

I hope he DOES throw a hissy fit. He's more effective when angry.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-25-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5924396)
What a bunch of crap. There's no way that Jamaal could be an every down back. He will be amazing as a screen RB or as a dump outlet for a 2 RB lineup. Sorry bud, but that's it.

:spock: You ever hear of a guy named Brian Westbrook??? People said the same thing about him before he broke out and he is listed as weighing 205. Yes, he won't be a "workhorse" but he can play a role like Westbrook in the future.

Just Passin' By 07-25-2009 03:54 PM

So, Mr. Charles is the first backup who has ever publicly stated that he wants to beat out the starter, then?

Tribal Warfare 07-25-2009 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 5924797)
:spock: You ever hear of a guy named Brian Westbrook??? People said the same thing about him before he broke out and he is listed as weighing 205. Yes, he won't be a "workhorse" but he can play a role like Westbrook in the future.


Priest Holmes

Tribal Warfare 07-25-2009 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5924471)
It's funny how i see all this love for Charles being optimistic about taking a starters job but when Thigpen did virtually the same thing awhile back people were crapping their diapers about it.

I knew this would come up, two different positions and yes it's a double standard. QB's should have a demeaner of a HC, don't talk shit in the media if you do it it better be behind closed doors because the leader of the offense was to be calm and control instead of a loud mouth who has inflated sense of self worth

Coach 07-25-2009 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5924407)
Why not?

He gets injured too much.

HemiEd 07-25-2009 10:09 PM

Charles will have to overachieve to take Ljs job, that would be great for the Chiefs.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-25-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5925357)
I knew this would come up, two different positions and yes it's a double standard. QB's should have a demeaner of a HC, don't talk shit in the media if you do it it better be behind closed doors because the leader of the offense was to be calm and control instead of a loud mouth who has inflated sense of self worth

This. And lest some forget:

ONE ****ING WIN. ONE!

Next!

Rasputin 07-25-2009 10:53 PM

I think LJ is going to have an awesome year this year and that Charles is going to be a great compliment to the run and pass game. Attitude is everything with LJ he has got to come out strong and hungry. LJ knows he has to perform or he is done.

It's good that Charles is out to get his job that will push LJ that much more and he needs the motivation. I just think that LJ is going to have one of his better years as a Chief this year and he will make some big plays and he will make life hell for the defense that has to stop him.

milkman 07-26-2009 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 5925369)
He gets injured too much.

I think TW said it best.

Priest Holmes.

InChiefsHeaven 07-26-2009 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5925350)
Priest Holmes

Eg-fuggin-zactly...Though I don't put Charles in that category yet...

KCrockaholic 07-26-2009 10:03 AM

Sounds great :) I would love to see Jamaal become our starting HB by years end.

-King- 07-26-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5925416)
This. And lest some forget:

ONE ****ING WIN. ONE!

Next!

Charles had 1 win last year too..... just sayin..

-King- 07-26-2009 10:31 AM

Charles will be the Chris Johnson of this offense, and LJ will be the Lendale White. I have no problem with it. This way, LJ will still get a good amount of carries and he will get a lot of TDs because he'll be in in all the goal line sets.

KcFanInGA 07-26-2009 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 5920650)
I seriously want to see Charles succeed in supplanting LJ as the starter.

If he does, I will need to go out and purchase a new jersey.

I second this emotion.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-26-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5925615)
I think TW said it best.

Priest Holmes.

Holmes was built and performed like the quintessential RB; I fail to see how this ties-in to an under-built, under-achieving Jamal Charles.

:shrug:

milkman 07-26-2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5926292)
Holmes was built and performed like the quintessential RB; I fail to see how this ties-in to an under-built, under-achieving Jamal Charles.

:shrug:

Seriously?

Charles is ripped, much the same as Priest, and is faster.

No one knew how good Priest was until he came to KC, and when he was signed, most were pissed that we didn't sign Charlie Garner.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-26-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5926404)
Seriously?

Charles is ripped, much the same as Priest, and is faster.

No one knew how good Priest was until he came to KC, and when he was signed, most were pissed that we didn't sign Charlie Garner.

God this is gay, but Holmes had running back hips and legs that you could use as an illustration for perfection if you were writing the definitive book on the position.

Charles is fast and dangerous in space, but until he can break through a line and safeties with any kind of regularity, I'm not ready to annoint him just yet.

Believe it or not, there are two more directions on a football field besides east and west.:p

milkman 07-26-2009 03:07 PM

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2008/0102...harles_300.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5926427)
God this is gay, but Holmes had running back hips and legs that you could use as an illustration for perfection if you were writing the definitive book on the position.

Charles is fast and dangerous in space, but until he can break through a line and safeties with any kind of regularity, I'm not ready to annoint him just yet.

Believe it or not, there are two more directions on a football field besides east and west.:p

I'm sorry, I'm just looked at a pic of Holmes when he was at Texas, and his build is eerily similar to Charles. Tell me which is Charles and which is Priest?

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007...harles_195.jpg

milkman 07-26-2009 03:10 PM

That aside, the thing that made Priest what he was was his vision and patience, qualities that I saw from Charles when he was at Texas.

I'm not saying that Charles can play at a level close to Holmes, I am saying however, he has the tools to do that.


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