Guys The Donkeys Can Prove They Will Win The Superbowl Next Year!
 

Matt Cassel 6-4, just sayin',

TO THE 'SHIP!

Jesus.

That board made this one look like it's comprised of a bunch of Mensa members, or the ones in Mensa who can discus football...no, make that non-football related internets stuff with some regularity.

F'ing tards.

And add "Super" as a prefix to the f'ing tards comment as there are more than one who actually look to be supporting McPuberty, who, from all accounts, is rapidly destroying a franchise who was on the cusp of truly competing at the highest levels. F that "focus on the defense" stuff now.

Train wreck.

Don't hold back... Tell us how you really feel.

Denver wasn't going anywhere with a turnover machine at QB and a defense that can't stop the run or the pass. Denver is going to be much better then we were last year.

McDaniels has 100% confidence in his system. Actually if you listen to this podcast he says "the quarterback in our system is never going to have to go out there and win the game by himself. Never has to, never will"

He also said he wanted that turnover machine to be your quarterback.

Only a Donkey fan can come up with something like that

See homer list. LOL OK giv
e U a chance, after this year show me the winner.

So you fixed the Defense and didn't downgrade the offense?????

Contradiction in terms. Denver will still not be able to stop either the run or the pass. Most likely they will do it worse than they did last year. No...not most likely...they will be worse, period.

And they most certainly upgraded their turnover machine potential at QB.

I'm sure McDiaper has confidence in his system. Much in the same way that the people in the 14th century were absolutely positive that the world was flat and that if you sailed past the area of the ubiquitous maps and geographical surveys of that time that said "There be dragons here" you'd fall off into the nether regions of Queen Joanna of Naples.

And just what is "his" system? Being that he really doesn't have a system, other than the shit Bill let him partially see from what his periphrial vision could pick up as he ran to and fro fetching coffee and M&M's for the senior members of the staff.

And, furthermore, I'm sure that McBlankie is hoping upon all hope that his quarterback doesn't have to win games for the Doncos. If he is relying upon Orton to pull it out, it is going to be a long, slow, cold day in Hell

Q: What rhymes with "Fudge Packer"?

A: "Orton_Backer81"

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

that hurt my brain to read. that guy is a bigger homer than any that we have here on that planet.

Kyle rated 2nd most outta shape athlete behind John Daly!

http://callingallsportsblog.com/top-...hape-athletes/

2. Kyle Orton – Chicago Bears Quarterback

Kyle ‘The Bottle’ Orton as he is so affectionately called is another backup QB. What’s up with these guys? I wish I could throw because backup QB seems to be a job where you can eat junk food, drink booze, and bang hot football groupies… not too bad. Orton is a loose cannon; luckily for him he doesn’t play too much so there’s plenty of time for him to get his drink on. Also, there’s no way Lovie Smith considers him the answer at the QB position. And that Chuck Norris-esque neck beard he is rocking is just plain terrible. So horrible in fact that there’s a whole website dedicated to him getting rid of it. Check out Shave Kyle Orton’s Neckbeard (at http://www.shavekyleorton.blogspot.com/).

PS – There are plenty of pics out there showing Orton with his shirt off, and believe me, he is as out of shape as Snack. We just went with a drunkie one caue they’re funnier, but make no mistake, he’s a fattie.

I don't know if the defense is fixed yet... I haven't seen them play. The safeties we had last year were the worst in the NFL, and we brought in Brian Dawkins, Renaldo Hill, and drafted 2 safeties in the 2nd and 4th round.

If Brandon Marshall comes back the offense should be better than it was last year. Orton actually had a higher QB Rating and TD/Int ratio than Jay Cutler had before he got injured in week 8.

Brian Dawkins = Slower, Older Darren Sharper
Renaldo Hill = Captain Knee Injury
2 Rookie Safeties = 0 Impact 1st year

Still waiting for how you upgraded, looks as if you just got slower?

Please don't doctor facts like you have done with Cutler vs Orton. You don't even believe that Orton is better, no matter how many times you post it here.

I don't know how the defense will do, but I do know that Mike Nolan is a MUCH better DC than Bob Slowick was. Last years Denver Broncos and Detroit Lions defenses were the two worst defenses in NFL History going back to 1994 according to football outsiders. Denver created the fewest turnovers in NFL history since the NFL went to a 16 game regular season.

Injuries had a lot to do with how bad our defense was last year. Heck for a 4 or 5 game stretch we were playing without our ENTIRE starting LB core, our 2 starting safeties, and Champ Bailey.


Josh McDaniels' father is longtime friends with Urban Meyer, Josh and Belichick both went down to Florida before McDaniels became OC, and talked with Urban Meyer about his offense and brought it back to New England.
If Josh knows one thing, its QB's. He chose Orton over Jason Campbell, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Luke McKown(sp?), Kellen Clemmens, and Alex Smith.

This is the system that Orton should have been playing his entire life. He will play very well in it this year.

Dude we had Marquand Manuel and Marlon McCree as our starting safeties last year. Kyle Lowry and Vernon Fox had to start a couple of games when they were injured... Yes the safety position is improved. Anybody is better than the guys we had last year, especially a safety who made the Pro Bowl last year.

TY for a laugh.

Again next year saying we rebuilt..LOL

They all make the PB!

Homer Simpson.

Urban is in his early 40's. If his dad is a longtime Urban buddy, than does that put Josh in his mid-teens? And the fact that a guy like meathead Kyle Wittingham ends up being a better spread monkey coach than Urban at the same college (Utah) is a testament to the fact that it ain't all about Urban...

I think it remains to be seen that he knows one thing. How the hell, as an OC for one single year, does he really know anything? Especially an OC under Bill, who we all know calls all the shots anyway. It's like the guy who was the operations manager under Marge Schott or Shanahan. Nice title, but they weren't allowed to open a can of beans without approval.

What? I mean, seriously, WTF? I stand by my initial analysis that this is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. Ever. And I read a Mack Bolan novel once. And this stuff you are typing makes that look like it was penned by John Updike in comparison.

I'll take Campbell over Orton any day. Campbell has gone through coaching staffs like toilet paper. If Dan "Steinbrenner" Snyder would surround that team with stability Campbell would excel.

Don't get me wrong Dawkins was a excellent safety in Jim Johnson's pressure first defense. However, with Noland......lol. Excluding his days with one of the best defensive personal groups in the last decade (Ravens) he has come up wanting.

"Let's take a further look at Nolan's past...

New York Giants - 1993-1996 - 5th, 11th, 17th, 14th.

Washington Redskins - 1997-1999 - 16th, 24th, 30th.

In 1993, Nolan took over much of the personnel from Bill Parcells. Let's look at the dropoff after Nolan's first year with the Giants. His defenses never cracked the top 10. When Nolan was in Washington, his defenses got progressively worse.

In 3 years with the 49ers, Nolans defensive rankings are as follows...

2005 - 32nd, 2006 - 26th, 2007 - 25th.

In it's 4th year, Nolan's defense should've made significant improvement. He's had say in the majority of the personnel decisions. He's been able to bring in the free agents he wants (Nate Clements, Justin Smith). Nolan has infuence in the draft (Patrick Willis). This defense should be in the top 15! Instead, it is in the bottom half of the league. At the rate of current improvement, we'll crack top 15 in 2011. Here are the roster "improvements" on defense over the last 3 years.

1st rounders

2008, pick 29 - DT, Kentwan Balmer

2007, pick 11 - ILB, Patrick Willis

2006, pick 22 - OLB, Manny Lawson

Free agents...

Nate Clements, CB - 2001 - 1st round (21st pick) by the Buffalo Bills

Walt Harris, CB - 1996 - 1st round (13th pick) by the Chicago Bears

Justin Smith, DE - 2001 - 1st round (4th pick) by the Cincinnati Bengals

Takeo Spikes, LB - 1998 - 1st round (13th pick) by the Cincinnati Bengals" - CBSsportsline.com

Mike Noland's past shows he loves big names. Too bad his grasp of a total defensive scheme/play-calling leaves much to be desired.

I would of loved to see Nolan in KC. I'm a little bitter that Denver got him. :shake:

What?!

Nolan is a douche. Greg Robinson is Defense Jesus compared to him. Nolan wrecked SF so bad that they actually thought that Mike "Pants Optional" Singletary was worthy of a contract extension.

This is sarcasm. I hope.

You might want to tell NFL teams to stop trying to contact Urban Meyer then...

Florida coach Urban Meyer says that multiple NFL teams will be using elements of the spread offense in 2009.

"Right now, we've been contacted by a minimum of three NFL teams who want to implement a spread element," Meyer said recently, according to Chris Harry of the Orlando Sentinel. "They're going to do it."



He has been the offensive coordinator in New England since 2005, and the best years of Tom Brady's career came after Josh McDaniels was named the QB coach in 2004.

He wasn't a good HC but are you saying his success as a DC in Baltimore and Washington was a fluke?
Robinson has flamed out where ever he's been.

1992 NYG Before Nolan- 26th in PA
1993 NYG W/ Nolan - 1st 12.8
1994 8th 19.1
1995 16th 21.2
1996 10th 18.6

1996 WSH Before Nolan- 13th
1997 WSH W/ Nolan - 8th 18.1
1998 28th 26.3
1999 24th 23.6

1999 NYJ Before Nolan -9th
2000 NYJ W/ Nolan- 13th 20.1

2000 BAL Before Nolan- 1st
2001 BAL W/ Nolan- 4th 16.6
2002 19th 22.1
2003 6th 17.6
2004 6th 16.8

So Nolan's defense gave up an average of 19.4 Points per game for his entire career as a defensive coordinator. That is very damn good... Giving up 19 points per game is good enough to be a top ten defense 8 out of the last 10 years.

Wouldn't say I'd want him as a HC.
Not exactly thrilled with the Pendergast choice.

Both had better defenses before he arrived. Next.

It's very rare for a team to go to, and win, a SB with a QB that doesn't, at some point in a season, and playoff put his team on his shoulders and carry them.

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are the only two that come to mind, and they played on teams with historically great defenses.

I don't see that in Denver.

Well okay then.

Just remember, your wonder boy coach who only knows one thing, QB, wanted Matt Cassel.

He also wanted to keep Cutler after he lost out on Cassel, and only "wanted" Orton after he failed to appease Cutler and get him on board.

So, what you mean to say is he settled for Orton.

Deciding what super models to have a three way with at half time has got to be eating those peeps up.

He did want Cassel because he knows and fits into his system. Cutler didn't. But it's not like he was going to trade Cutler straight up for Cassel. He was going to get Cassel and AT LEAST one first round pick.

Cutler could have still stayed here. Heck when Cutler had a meeting with McDaniels, Cutler got pissed because McDaniels wouldn't tell him that he was off the trading block. Cutler wasn't wanted in Denver from the day McDaniels got the job.

The value he would have gotten in a trade is merely speculation.

He wanted Cassel, was outmanuevered by Pioli, couldn't appease Cutler, and wound up settling for Orton.

It's that simple.

He didn't handpick Orton the way you are trying to paint it.

McDaniels was just late to the negotiations. New England probably could have gotten more from a Denver trade. There were reports that New England would have gotten Tampa's first and second round picks, Denver would have gotten New England's first round pick, another pick, and Matt Cassel, and Tampa would have gotten Cutler.

After Cassel, Orton was the guy he wanted. He could have waited until draft day if he wasn't happy with the Orton deal. More than 10 teams wanted to get Jay Cutler, but he chose Chicago's deal because of Orton.

And you think that Belichick is going to move forward with the Cassel to Chiefs trade if those rumors had any legs?

You honestly believe that he was in such a hurry to get the deal done that he couldn't hold off for a few hours to get more than he got in the deal.

You believe in the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus too?

He was outmanuevered, plain and simple.

And he chose Orton over guys like Cambpell, Sanchez and Stafford only because the price to get those guys would have been too high.

He settled for Orton.

Pathetic, but good for a laugh.

New England had to dump that salary as quick as possible so they could hit free agency. Pioli and Belichick already had a verbal deal and Vrabel was already in KC 3 or 4 days before the trade was announced. Denver was late to the party, and I am glad we were. We got a heck of a lot more out of Chicago than we would have in the 3 team trade.

Donk fans ROFL

Yes, the Pats had to dump salary, and wanted to get it done as quickly as possible, but Belichick isn't going to rush that deal if he really believed that he could get a far better offer in just a few short hours.

Again, if those rumors had any legs, Belichick would have given it 3 or 4 hours to get it done.

Even if true, the fact remains that Pioli outmanuevered McDumbass, and got the deal done, and McDumbass had to settle.

And Vrabel was already in KC 3 or 4 days before the deal?.

First I've heard of that.

are there any guys here who are 6'4"?

Denver officially has the biggest homer fans in the league.
Any fan who can lose a top 5 qb who is just hitting his prime, and replace him with a neckbearded game manger and then try to convince other people that it's an upgrade, wins the crown.

Unfuqinbeleefable

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Yeah, but he was ONLY 6'3"

God you are pathetic. If Cutler was still a donk, you would be making his case for best QB in the league. You're damn user name was Cutler.
Now he sucks? You're a joke.

Oh that's right........
I apologize.

Dungver will win a few home games .........................

Yep you guys got Vrabel before you got Cassel.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ghlight=Vrabel
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ghlight=Vrabel

I picked my username before we lost a 3 game division lead with 3 games to go.

I'm not going to read through either of these threads t find out if there is proof that Vrabel was in KC three or four days before the trade was done.

Show me somewhere, specific where there is proof that Vrabel was in KC in the days before the deal was done.

I misread an article at Rotworld. They posted the Matt Cassel trade on March 1st and posted the Vrabel trade on February 28th.

You guys got Vrabel the 27th and Cassel on the 28th.

And didn't change it until after he was traded.

I'm tired of denvers and vandys wins and losses all being blamed on cutler.
Vandy played in the fuqin SEC, and Cutler still put up awesome numbers with shit talent around him, and Denvers D is utter shit.

Orrin is going to look like a fuqing joke trying to bring his team back from 2 Tds like Cutler was always trying to do.
Orrin was playing with a damn good Defense, and was playing game manager that's why his td int ratio was so good. Cause he wasn't asked to do shit.
I cannot wait for this season to start.

So, what you are suggesting here, let me know if I get it wrong, is that we traded a second round pick for Varbel, and that Belichick, just out of the kindness of his heart, threw Cassel into the deal the next day.

The fact that vrabel was traded was announced a few days before the full details of the trade were announced, which included Cassel, and the 2nd, and 5th rnd picks. The first details were just that vrabel had been traded, they didn't even say what he had been traded for.

It was reported that you got Vrabel before you got Cassel is all I'm saying.

Then why didn't you say it that way?

any donkey fan saying Orton is upgrade over Cutler, is the biggest homer fan i have ever seen

Peyton Manning didn't have a defense his first 4 or 5 years in the league, and he still led them to the playoffs every year. Cutler has had plenty of weapons in Denver, and didn't lead us anywhere. He is too reckless. Yeah, he can make some amazing plays, but he also makes some VERY DUMB throws that no QB in the league would throw.

Orton is a safety first QB. All of his scouting reports say that. Orton did have a good defense, but he had jack squat on offense. He showed that he can be a very good QB in this league before his ankle injury.

Because I got mixed up with Rotoworlds posts. But Belichick already did have a deal in place before McDaniels got involved for Cassel.

If Denver doesn't win the Super Bowl this year. It's ONLY because they ran out of games. Bump the season to 24-28 games and Denver holds the trophy every sports writer knows they deserve.

Since Dungy took over, the Colts lowest ranking in points allowed has been 23rd.

The Donks in the last two years, with Cutler have ranked 28th and 30th respectively.

See the difference?

Oh, and Manning and the Colts missed the playoffs twice in his first four seasons, and the Colts D finished 29th and 31st in points allowed in those two seasons.

The other two seasons in which they made the playoffs, the D ranked 17th and 15th in points allowed.

Hmmm... The two worst years the Colts defenses had were the two years that Peyton Manning had 28 and 23 Int's. I guess QB's throwing INT's in their own territory really does skew the stats eh.

One could make that argument.

However, in both those seasons, the Colts finished 29th overall defensively, while finishing 15th and 21st overall in the two playoff seasons.

So no, that doesn't skew the stats.

You just blew your own case. Manning threw the ints trying to do too much knowing he had to make up for a terrible defense and was frequently coming from behind.

I can't wait for this season. Cutler is going to tear it up. He's that good. Necbeard is going to blow balls trying to keep up with the other teams scoring at will.

Thats right bud!

Give him a skim uppercut, then a right non fat...follow it up with a couple 2% jabs and go for the throat with the whole milk uppercut!

The guy says he chose his old username before they lost their three game division lead with three games to go...like that didnt happen in his rookie year too. Is he a 15 year old that didnt watch football then?

Thats the whole reason we made the playoffs in 06.

He was in a similar situation in 07, no?
The Broncos had a worse defense, personel wise, than the 03 Chiefs and this guy thinks all they have to do is change coordinators and all is well???

gimme a break!

he's just a huge homer dude.

He's gonna be crying like a bitch this season, and I would not doubt if we don't hear the last of him before the season is over.
The fact is, his team was a few pieces away from being able to compete, and now they've lost the biggest piece of a SB puzzle. A franchise QB. They are going to give Ortin at least 2 yrs before they pull the plug, and Marshall will be gone by then, and they still have to find a QB.

Mcdaniels fuqed up and deep sown inside they all know it.

You Do Not trade a franchise QB in his prime fir anything. Well maybe a guy you know really well and think can be a franchise QB.....whoopsie

Since you love to speculate...

McD screwed BB and Pioli imho.

I think he was supposed to go as a four way deal with Pioli, Vrabel and Cassel so BBs long time friend could have his "nest egg" so he could have a good chance at success on his own.

Mcd screwed the pooch!

He let the drunk in Denver talk him into signing up. Since that, BB and Pioli have been pissing in his cheerios!

Who do you think "leaked" the info about him trying to aquire MC? Mcd sure didnt, he is as tight lipped as Pioli about his current teams dealings, no?

Letting Cassel eventually go for so low was surely a buddy deal and another kick in the balls of Mcd.

Can you clearly state your position on Marshall, so we can all laugh when he is traded and you flip flop again.

Did you see him on total access? He basicaly said he will be traded and they were working on it.

Start slamming him now, so you dont look so foolish in the future.

Champ was on a radio show after they cut his brother Boss and stated he had all but lost half the lockerroom already.

who can blame them? I wouldnt trust a guy that doesnt have enough respect for his pro bowl qb not to lie right to his face...if you can do so to a qb, you could also do so to me.

The future few years will surely be interesting as Denvers front office will be competing with Pioli and ours for 3-4 personel.

Can we put a sticky on all anti-Denver threads? I think it would make CP a better place.:LOL:

Meh. Orton isn't better than Cutler. That's not the point. The point is that Orton is better than nothing. And Cutler wasn't going to play for us anymore. The Denver FO did a decent job of getting something in return for a guy who wasn't going to be there anymore anyway. So suck ass, haters.

No one is arguing that Orton is worse than nothing.

We are debating with Homo 2724 that Orton is not better than Cutler.

Oh, OK. I just woke up. Excuse my low reading comprehension. Pass the crack pipe this-a-way.

I have said quite a few times the past few weeks that I know Cutler is better than Orton. That doesn't mean that Orton sucks, or that Orton won't play well this year.

The only thing I knock Cutler for is that he makes bad decisions, Orton doesn't.

ROFL

You Chief fans are dreaming of the day when Denver is in all out rebuild mold like you guys have been. It's not going to happen. McDaniels has not lost the locker room. Half the team from last year is gone.LMAO

I don't know what you said the last few weeks, but this is what you've said today.

And this.

Where in that post did I say Orton > Cutler?

Trading Cutler got us a good cover corner, and a good DE/OLB, and a safety first QB.

It should. We have a better group of WR's, a more experienced offensive line, a MUCH better backfield... I don't see how Denver's offense shouldn't be better than it was last year. We only scored 23 points per game.