Cassel injured - who dunnit?
 

I'd say the replay clearly indicates Niswanger and McIntosh once again teamed up to suck. This time they suck badly enough to get Cassel injured.

First, the initial pressure is put on Cassel by #90. This is Waters' man. However, Waters can't get to him because Sackintosh/Niswanger get in his way.

Cassel is forced to run because of pressure from #90. After running around, #92 tackles Cassel's knee. Why is #92 running free?

He split a double team attempt by Niswanger and McIntosh.

They suck.

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its all larrys fault

sighs....

papermache

Man, the center/right side caved to pressure like a freshman on prom night.

The line is easily my biggest beef with Pioli thus far.

As the Cubs say...wait'll next year.

What I remember from the play was that all Waters saw was a vapor trail left by the dude that blew by him, forcing Cassel up and out into the sack.

I'm still utterly amazed that we have nothing on this offensive line besides Albert. Nothing. How can a team not have a single effective guard?

This is going to be a loooooooooooooooong season.....

****, I have the game recorded, but hadn't seen anything till now. what the ****

I think you are right...it's going to be a long season. However the bright side is that next year we can draft a couple of high pick offensive line guys. Pick up a decent guard or tackle to help the rooks out. Then the real rebuilding will be started!

I think Mike (Hairy) Cox deserves his share of the shame. He failed to stay engaged and just started watching the play after pulling off of #92.

Cox has been brutal this preseason he gets pushed around all the time.

This goes higher up to Scott Pioli having "dunnit".

The Chiefs were virtually idle this offseason in terms of upgrading the offensive line and WR talent around Cassel (unless you count adding inexpensive, washed up veterans such as Goff and Engram).

Waiting until the middle of the preseason to begin panic shopping by bringing in the likes of of Lelie and Toomer and trading for the Dolphins offensive linemen duo is further proof that behind the Iron Curtain of secrecy at One Arrowhead Drive... Pioli has come to the realization that he didn't do enough this offseason to upgrade the talent on offense.

it's a simple dl stunt and we look like idiots

i am a huge vikings fan so i love watching the chiefs implode and blow game after game over stupid shit. they spend money on wash ups like mcintosh and zach thomas. they needed to upgrade the oline and db and didnt even adress those problems and now they are seeing their o line fold like a lawn chair its fun to watch but its sad

And to think Jonathan Luigs was just sitting there in the 4th round BPA. Oh well. Im sure the Center position is going to be that deep next year again right? :(

It begins.

Or short as hell. Erased the game at half time, bitterly, dangerously, close to not giving a flying **** what goes on with these bozos anymore.

And Jamon Meredith in the 5th.

Luigs at center, kick Niswanger out to RG, and Meredith at RT and this line would not be near the disaster it is right now.

Here's what I want to know.

You have an older, decending RG in Goff.
Why, at the snap do the Chiefs have him runnning to the left side of the formation, where he doesn't do anything but stand there like an idiot blocking no one?

Mebane split that double team practically before Niswanger and McIntosh come out of their stances.

Cassel isn't hurt. Its a conspiracy by the evil Obama Administration to point out the need for Universal Health care.
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It didn't seem, in slow motion, to be an excessively illegal hit. Just one of those that happens.

I agree the OL still sucks. I do question the OL coach, why is it that with all that beef they can't get them to follow directions? If you disect the problem we either have all but one of our OL that suck or the OL coach sucks. At this level I'd be looking for an OL coach that can patch things together. Where's Art Shell when you need him?

It seems to be assignment problems with these guys. Last week, on a running play, LJ got stuff behind the line when there was a clear hole to run through. Hell, he may have scored. But a LB went right up the middle to tackle him in the backfield despite showing that he was blitzing right over the center's nose. The center decided it would be beter to double team the guard AWAY from the flow of the play even though Waters had him blocked fine and the LBwas right there. Just a chip would've done it, but it looked as if he didn't even see him.

I don't know the playbook, but my guess is because it's play action and they're trying to sell it as a run left. Seattle doesn't seem to bite at all, so we're left with more blockers than bodies to block. Note that Albert doesn't touch anyone on the play either, and ends up all the way down the line apparently in pursuit of 90.

I don't know that the injury was anyone in particular's fault.

Holy shit.*Did you see how they were all just looking around looking like morons while they were tackling Cassel?

This. This "patience" theme is wearing very thin.

At least it wasn't Haynesworth smothering him.That hit looked much better than the one Brady took.

It's the gochiefs "Stay down bitch" curse

Mike Cox, WTF are you doing?

Actually, the question was rhetorical, just to get a shot at Goff.

The actual point was the fact that McIntosh and Niswanger both were slow to come out of their stances and get after the block.

Getting out of their stances slow, for both of them, has been a consistent problem and a primary reason they are getting their asses whipped on a regular basis.

Maybe the OL needs to start taking steroids so they can develop a little of that roid rage needed to be a bad ass OL!

If Cassel comes back for the opening game of the season I hope they have shored up the blocking scheme and stuff to keep him from getting put down and out of the league.

despite the ****ed up O line performance, Mike Cox is the epic suck on that play...his last attempt to finish the block is nothing short of pitiful. He's not even looking at the guy. That is ****ing horrible...

Bottom line is, it was epic fail by Niswanger, McIntosh and Cox.

The fact is, on the O-Line, you know the snap count, hell the center snaps the ball, there's no ****ing way a DT should be by you while you're still scratching your ass in your stance.

If Niswanger and McIntosh do their ****ing job, Cox is a non factor.

Ironically, they wanted to showcase Thigpen into getting a #3 so they could package for OL'men next year.

SERIOUSLY ****ING CUT MCINTOSH NOW!!! WE'LL JUST LEAVE THE ****IN RT SPOT OPEN BECAUSE THATS WHAT THE **** IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME.

It was a run fake where Goff was pulling the left. Seattle called a stunt that brought a lineman through the hole that Goff left. McIntosh, Niswanger and Cox all failed to block the other DT. It was a good defensive playcall.

Again, there is absolutely no ****ing way that the DT should be through the hole before McIntosh and Niswanger have even gotten out of their stances.

It was a good defensive play call, but if those two aren't so slow out of their stance, then MeBane isn't by them before they even get a chance to touch him.

You've got to be able to move at the snap.

As a Viqueen fan you know a thing or two about spending money on washed up veterans... $25 million for 75 year old Brett Favre anyone?

The willingness of some here to make excuses for their favorites has never been more evident.

Albert was a total sack of horseshit on this play. He took himself out better than any defender ever could.

Looked to me like he was carrying out his assignment and couldn't find anyone to block.

I heard Adrian Peterson fumbled a handoff when he tripped over Farve's wheelchair footrest.

Good work GoChiefs. I tried to rep you for it but it won't take. It works for other posters though.

ROFL

The sad thing is that after watching this a few times you can tell that it's a well-designed play. Cassell does a good job of selling the fake handoff, you can see the linebackers are frozen for a second or two. If the protection was there that type of play can be an easy six points.

was this a 3rd down?

Here's some more awful, embarrassing shit. No one even touches #94. Instead they look around aimlessly like a bunch of dumbos.

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Good God. Is Muir ****ing senile?

This is an interesting point. Did Bill Muir sign off on these scabs? Somehow I doubt it. I think he was told to work with what he had.

The starting OL has been absolutely atrocious since the first preseason game. There are a lot of plays where the OL is just standing around and don't appear to have a clue what their assignment is.

If Bowe can be put in the doghouse for not giving 100%, how can the entire OL not be kept on the field longer and asked to run additional drills until they get it?

Who really expected for KC to do anything but suck hard this year?

Kind of like the Vikings attempt at being a championship contending team without a legit QB? Might want to rethink the old washup comment with ole gray beard behind center.

Before the first preseason game and before knowing just how bad the OL was, I thought there would be a chance to sweep the Raiders and maybe the Broncos with all of their problems.

It's been my gripe since signing Cassel. Why spend all that cash on a qb (with moderate mobility), and have an OL that sucks that bad? I thought for sure we would draft an OL with the first rd pick and get another in FA/Trade. McIntosh, Goff, Niswanger, and even Waters have been abysmal.

Jesus Christ, that guy was the DT, WTF did they think he was going to do!

At least Charles put in the effort to blow up his guy in the background.

Goff must have thought the DT was going to drop back into zone coverage because he completely leaves him and moves behind McIntosh.

Charles is the one bright spot from that abortion of a game

By the way, it's not just pass protection. I saw some awful shit on run blocking last night in reviewing the game. Awful, awful shit. Half the time these guys can't even neutralize a linebacker.

* hangs head, sobs uncontrollably *

Eh, at least Charles did some work.

Maybe the lineman types among us can educate me a little here, but WTF was Macintosh doing? The DT stopped altogether which would've killed his drive and Macintosh had some forward momentum; wouldn't his have been a good place to step forward and blast that !@#$er? He could've pancaked the hell out of him.

Are lineman supposed to retreat to a spot in pass-pro and that's why he didn't just step forward and flatten his man?

I believe that is a DT, so Goff should have been responsible for blocking him, though we've seen the Chiefs put a TE on the DE and have Goff and McIntosh double the DT.

Niswanger reacts to a LB who appears might have a seam, but waters did a nice job of sealing it before he got into the hole.

The blame on that play almost ceratinly has to go to Goff.