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booger 09-04-2009 05:03 PM

Trying to trade Pollard? from NFP
 
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...h-Pollard.html

Biggs: Chiefs exploring trade options with Pollard

Move would create opening for Mike Brown in lineup

Brad Biggs

September 04, 2009, 06:55 PM EST

The Kansas City Chiefs are exploring options to trade strong safety Bernard Pollard, a move that would create an opening for veteran Mike Brown to move into the starting lineup, sources said.

The 24-year-old Pollard, a fourth-year pro from Purdue, has made 31 starts the last two seasons. He had 98 tackles and one interception last season. But Brown was signed in late June to push both Pollard and free safety Jarrad Page.

“The defensive backfield as a whole, I think, there’s excellent competition,’’ Haley said late last month when asked if Brown had pushed Pollard for the job. “I don’t think there’s anybody who feels real comfortable. Mike’s one of the reasons for that but I think that’s the way it is across the board there. Those guys know there is somebody right behind them that could be playing just as well as them. That’s how you get your team good.”

Brown spent the last nine seasons with the Chicago Bears but has been injury plagued since 2004. He held it together to start 15 games last season, but had to leave three games early down the stretch with a recurring calf muscle pull and finally missed the finale. He is an instinctive player and made 101 tackles last season, the third-highest total in his career.

booger 09-04-2009 05:04 PM

earlier in the week, Lombardi said rumor was DET and CLE looking for a S.

Obviously DET is out now but maybe the browns.

booger 09-04-2009 05:05 PM

for eric Steinbach to play RT?

-King- 09-04-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger (Post 6034770)
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...h-Pollard.html

Biggs: Chiefs exploring trade options with Pollard

Move would create opening for Mike Brown in lineup

Brad Biggs

September 04, 2009, 06:55 PM EST

The Kansas City Chiefs are exploring options to trade strong safety Bernard Pollard, a move that would create an opening for veteran Mike Brown to move into the starting lineup, sources said.

The 24-year-old Pollard, a fourth-year pro from Purdue, has made 31 starts the last two seasons. He had 98 tackles and one interception last season. But Brown was signed in late June to push both Pollard and free safety Jarrad Page.

“The defensive backfield as a whole, I think, there’s excellent competition,’’ Haley said late last month when asked if Brown had pushed Pollard for the job. “I don’t think there’s anybody who feels real comfortable. Mike’s one of the reasons for that but I think that’s the way it is across the board there. Those guys know there is somebody right behind them that could be playing just as well as them. That’s how you get your team good.”

Brown spent the last nine seasons with the Chicago Bears but has been injury plagued since 2004. He held it together to start 15 games last season, but had to leave three games early down the stretch with a recurring calf muscle pull and finally missed the finale. He is an instinctive player and made 101 tackles last season, the third-highest total in his career.

101 tackles?

kstater 09-04-2009 05:06 PM

I'm sure the Chiefs brass are exploring options to trade every player not named Cassel Albert, or T. Jackson. Whether there's any interest is another story.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2009 05:08 PM

**** that!

I like Pollard.

This would not be smart!

DaneMcCloud 09-04-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6034781)
101 tackles?

NFL.com says 98

DaneMcCloud 09-04-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 6034784)
**** that!

I like Pollard.

This would not be smart!

Pollard sucks ass

KCUnited 09-04-2009 05:09 PM

Strong Safety seems like a loose definition.

Kyle DeLexus 09-04-2009 05:10 PM

Wonder if this is true does that mean it's a good indication we would be going after Mays or Berry in the draft? If so I'm all for it.

OnTheWarpath15 09-04-2009 05:10 PM

Aaron Francisco was just cut in Arizona.

He'd be an upgrade, IMO.

DaneMcCloud 09-04-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 6034791)
Wonder if this is true does that mean it's a good indication we would be going after Mays or Berry in the draft? If so I'm all for it.

Dude, it's way too early for that type of speculation

Mecca 09-04-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 6034784)
**** that!

I like Pollard.

This would not be smart!

This just lets us know how much he sucks.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:12 PM

Holla at your boy

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6034787)
Pollard sucks ass

I'll bet you wouldn,t tell him that !

DBOSHO 09-04-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 6034791)
Wonder if this is true does that mean it's a good indication we would be going after Mays or Berry in the draft? If so I'm all for it.

Going after a safety with the first rd pick when our oline is garbage and noone behind bowe would be dumb

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6034802)
This just lets us know how much he sucks.

If he sucked so god damn bad he wouldn't be trade bait.

He'd be cut, dumbass!

Mecca 09-04-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6034809)
Going after a safety with the first rd pick when our oline is garbage and noone behind bowe would be dumb

Whoa Whoa Whoa....you do not scoff at a safety if he's the best prospect.

DrRyan 09-04-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6034809)
Going after a safety with the first rd pick when our oline is garbage and noone behind bowe would be dumb

How many times does it need to be said that you can put together a very good O line without spending first round picks at every position? WR maybe, but drafting an O linemen in the first next season(especially where the Chiefs are likely to be drafting) is nuts.

veist 09-04-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6034787)
Pollard sucks ass

I mean its not like he goes out and gets debacled on _every_ play just way too many.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034794)
Aaron Francisco was just cut in Arizona.

He'd be an upgrade, IMO.

The dude who lost Arizona the super bowl? No thanks.

DBOSHO 09-04-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6034812)
Whoa Whoa Whoa....you do not scoff at a safety if he's the best prospect.

unless he can Block and play wide reciever at the same time i just dont think it would be a good idea. we will most likely be picking in the top 3 again. has anyone ever picked a safety that high?

OnTheWarpath15 09-04-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034817)
The dude who lost Arizona the super bowl? No thanks.

Wow, you're a bigger ****ing reerun than I thought.

Yeah, the guy that was beat by an almost indefensible pass.

**** him, he should be working as a fry cook somewhere after that.

Mecca 09-04-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 6034818)
unless he can Block and play wide reciever at the same time i just dont think it would be a good idea. we will most likely be picking in the top 3 again. has anyone ever picked a safety that high?

Sean Taylor went I believe 5th...

You don't scoff at a super high level prospect just because. I don't like next years WR prospects atleast not in the top 10 and there is no ****ing way they should be taking an OT that high.

DrRyan 09-04-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034817)
The dude who lost Arizona the super bowl? No thanks.

I don't know how you can really say the Super Bowl was lost. That was just a phenomenal catch by Holmes. Holmes WON the Super Bowl with that catch. DRC was just as much if not more to blame too.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 6034814)
How many times does it need to be said that you can put together a very good O line without spending first round picks at every position? WR maybe, but drafting an O linemen in the first next season(especially where the Chiefs are likely to be drafting) is nuts.


Yeah!

It'd be stupid to have a Jake Long or a Eugene Monroe on your line.

Mecca 09-04-2009 05:19 PM

I have never seen a fan base overrate OL like this one does, you'd think you need 5 first round HOF level lineman to stand a chance.

DeezNutz 09-04-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 6034805)
I'll bet you wouldn,t tell him that !

Why not?

Pollard would whiff anyway.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034822)
Wow, you're a bigger ****ing reerun than I thought.

Yeah, the guy that was beat by an almost indefensible pass.

**** him, he should be working as a fry cook somewhere after that.

No moron, I'm talking about when Holmes caught a 10 yard pass and went 60 yards cuz of Fransicos dumbassery.

veist 09-04-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6034838)
Why not?

Pollard would whiff anyway.

Or just fall down, I mean even if he hits you he'll have taken a bad angle and barely get one hand on you.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2009 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6034835)
I have never seen a fan base overrate OL like this one does, you'd think you need 5 first round HOF level lineman to stand a chance.

Tha's ridiculous, four would do!

Kyle DeLexus 09-04-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6034798)
Dude, it's way too early for that type of speculation

That was poorly worded. I'm not saying the Chiefs would be doing this move to get one of those two but was thinking it WOULD increase our chances since we would be going from a 24 year old starter to a 31 year old starter with a history of injury...it would become a position that would need upgrading after the season IMO.

DBOSHO 09-04-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6034823)
Sean Taylor went I believe 5th...

You don't scoff at a super high level prospect just because. I don't like next years WR prospects atleast not in the top 10 and there is no ****ing way they should be taking an OT that high.

im not scoffing at him im sure he could be of great help to us i just think there are bigger needs.

ol
wr
nt
ss

in that order

pollard routinely looks like an idiot though

DrRyan 09-04-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 6034829)
Yeah!

It'd be stupid to have a Jake Long or a Eugene Monroe on your line.

You just don't get it do you? You do not spend a first round pick on a guy to play RT! :banghead: Especially when you have two second round picks.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2009 05:23 PM

If Haley's trying to trade Pollard ,it's just because he's spending too much time on the planet listening to you guys.

First everyone demand McIntosh be cut ,

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zFhsE8EEvM

6:08

Tiger's Fan 09-04-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034822)
Wow, you're a bigger ****ing reerun than I thought.

Yeah, the guy that was beat by an almost indefensible pass.

**** him, he should be working as a fry cook somewhere after that.

I'm pretty sure billay was a player. Concussions yanno.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 6034848)
You just don't get it do you? You do not spend a first round pick on a guy to play RT! :banghead: Especially when you have two second round picks.

Then don't bitch when our third string QB ends up being the only QB left that was't carried off on a stretcher during the first quarter against Baltimore!

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6034852)
I'm pretty sure billay was a player. Concussions yanno.

I'm pretty sure you were dropped on your head as a child.

OnTheWarpath15 09-04-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034840)
No moron, I'm talking about when Holmes caught a 10 yard pass and went 60 yards cuz of Fransicos dumbassery.

Speaking of dumbassery, that's quite a play, considering Holmes' longest reception for the game was 40 yards.

Tiger's Fan 09-04-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034857)
I'm pretty sure you were dropped on your head as a child.

I was, but I'm a BAMF so it didn't even hurt!

-King- 09-04-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6034786)
NFL.com says 98

They're talking about Mike Brown there. And he had 73.

DrRyan 09-04-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034851)

I get it, he slipped on that play, now he is worthless. Excellent breakdown billay!

The Franchise 09-04-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034851)

Dude made one bad play on the big stage and all of a sudden he's ****ing horrible. Your and idiot.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 6034863)
I get it, he slipped on that play, now he is worthless. Excellent breakdown billay!

Your right he just slipped thats all! He's so good the Cardinals cut him. Hows that for logic?

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034859)
Speaking of dumbassery, that's quite a play, considering Holmes' longest reception for the game was 40 yards.

You always come on here all angry.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6034870)
Dude made one bad play on the big stage and all of a sudden he's ****ing horrible. Your and idiot.

So he only made 1 bad play and Arizona whos a super bowl contender released him? Can you say teflon idiot.

The Franchise 09-04-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034881)
So he only made 1 bad play and Arizona whos a super bowl contender released him? Can you say teflon idiot.

Yep....everyone who's ever released from a team sucks and can never become good again. It's a fact. Thanks for setting me straight billay.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6034883)
Yep....everyone who's ever released from a team sucks and can never become good again. It's a fact. Thanks for setting me straight billay.

You're a ****ing moron.

DrRyan 09-04-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034871)
Your right he just slipped thats all! He's so good the Cardinals cut him. Hows that for logic?

You have heard of Adrian Wilson correct? Antrel Rolle beat him out for other safety spot, it happens. You are aware that many players being cut from other teams are better than the dregs we have in KC currently correct?

OnTheWarpath15 09-04-2009 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034876)
You always come on here all angry.

Real classy talking about someone's wife.

Welcome to ignore, cockbag.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 6034892)
You have heard of Adrian Wilson correct? Antrel Rolle beat him out for other safety spot, it happens. You are aware that many players being cut from other teams are better than the dregs we have in KC currently correct?

Last time I checked you theres more then 2 players per position on a depth chart. And saying theres talent from other teams thats better than the Chiefs isn't saying much.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034894)
Real classy talking about someone's wife.

Welcome to ignore, cockbag.

Yes the ignore button. The mating call for butthurt.

OnTheWarpath15 09-04-2009 05:37 PM

Detroit's out of the equation, if there ever was one.

They just traded for Ko Simpson of Buffalo.

Mecca's boy.

DaneMcCloud 09-04-2009 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034901)
Detroit's out of the equation, if there ever was one.

They just traded for Ko Simpson of Buffalo.

Mecca's boy.

"Do you know who I am? I'm worth millions!"

LMAO

Tiger's Fan 09-04-2009 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034901)
Detroit's out of the equation, if there ever was one.

They just traded for Ko Simpson of Buffalo.

Mecca's boy.

I just saw that.

Didn't know about Jay Alford though. Did that happen last night?

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:39 PM

Did the Chiefs trade Thigpen yet?

OnTheWarpath15 09-04-2009 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034900)
Yes the ignore button. The mating call for butthurt.

Says the guy who turned off his rep.

Later, ****stick.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034912)
Says the guy who turned off his rep.

Later, ****stick.

Yea yea you can dish out out but you can't take it. Be a dick to me I'll be a dick to you. I turned off the rep to piss you off. Mission Accomplished.

booger 09-04-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034901)
Detroit's out of the equation, if there ever was one.

They just traded for Ko Simpson of Buffalo.

Mecca's boy.

i mention Steinbach because Mangini Likes Rex Hadnot at LG better but he has been injured. Plus Steinbach is being paid like a starting T not G. Maybe C Hank Fraley and a late rd pick cause he is 32.

Otherwise maybe Carolina since Herm and Fox are former SDSU teamates and the former colts DC is now in CAR.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6034912)
Says the guy who turned off his rep.

Later, ****stick.

Is that what that little blue square means ?

booger 09-04-2009 05:45 PM

if pollard is traded i don't think brown should be handed the job. Maybe this could really open Morgan's eyes that if he continues to get better he could get snaps on d and maybe even be the #1 SS at the end of the year.

Or they could move Page down to SS and start McGraw which is less likely.

DrRyan 09-04-2009 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034897)
Last time I checked you theres more then 2 players per position on a depth chart. And saying theres talent from other teams thats better than the Chiefs isn't saying much.

Reading is not your strongest suit is it billay? The point I was trying to make(that obviously did not register with your vast intellect) was that Francisco is likely better than what the Chiefs currently have on the roster at the safety position, your injury prone boy Mike Brown included.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 6034932)
Reading not your strongest suit is it billay? The point I was trying to make(that obviously did not register with your vast intellect) was that Francisco is likely better than what the Chiefs currently have on the roster at the safety position, your injury prone boy Mike Brown included.

I disagree. Fransico wasn't even better than Matt Ware.

Mecca 09-04-2009 05:47 PM

LOL I did like Ko Simpson he's never really played to the level he showed in college, then he said something reeruned.

What happened with Alford? He had a knee injury a couple weeks ago...

booger 09-04-2009 05:47 PM

Pollards missed tackles from the seattle game are a flat out embarrassment. Look on the goatse thread and the gifs as proof. Plus the film they had on him from last year and i think the gave him a clean slate and he blew it.

If they can't trade him i wouldn't mind keeping him as a backup for his special team skills and get back to his punt blocking form he had as a rook.

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:48 PM

Wow the Bears released Marcus Freeman.

KCrockaholic 09-04-2009 05:49 PM

The only thing I would not like about this is that Pollard is young. Hes the same age as some rookies in the league today. When your still that young, you still have plenty of room to grow and get better. Pollard may be very average now. But you never know what a player can turn into when they still have potential. Think, about it... Can you name me a SS in the league today that is the same age or younger than Pollard and has already proven to be better? I dont think so, for his age he still has a lot of room left to improve. I dont think this would be a good move to trade him, if anything put him at 2nd string.

Mecca 09-04-2009 05:49 PM

Releasing a draft pick and Freeman was a good pick for that round....

booger 09-04-2009 05:50 PM

on a side note the cards cut TE leonard Pope who could be our second or third te.

Cottam plays like a scarred puppy dog.

Tiger's Fan 09-04-2009 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6034936)
LOL I did like Ko Simpson he's never really played to the level he showed in college, then he said something reeruned.

What happened with Alford? He had a knee injury a couple weeks ago...

Out for the season. Knee ligiments

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6034945)
Releasing a draft pick and Freeman was a good pick for that round....

Yea and Freeman was a good player in college not sure if he's a 3-4 player but worth a look. They also released Dominic Rioala. Once upon a time he was a good center and might be better then what the Chiefs have. Sign em'

Mecca 09-04-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 6034944)
The only thing I would not like about this is that Pollard is young. Hes the same age as some rookies in the league today. When your still that young, you still have plenty of room to grow and get better. Pollard may be very average now. But you never know what a player can turn into when they still have potential. Think, about it... Can you name me a SS in the league today that is the same age or younger than Pollard and has already proven to be better? I dont think so, for his age he still has a lot of room left to improve. I dont think this would be a good move to trade him, if anything put him at 2nd string.

LaRon Landry. I think Donte Whitner is the same age also.

Mecca 09-04-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 6034947)
Out for the season. Knee ligiments

Ah, I knew he tore something but it was like an MCL and something else not an ACL...I think they IR'd him just to save a roster spot and not lose him their DL depth is stupid good.

KCrockaholic 09-04-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6034943)
Wow the Bears released Marcus Freeman.

The rook from Ohio State? Hmm, he did have pass rush ability in college. I guess hes just too short to play OLB in the NFL.

booger 09-04-2009 05:54 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/397007

G Billy Yates from the pats. only 11 starts in 5 years in NE but they must like him as a backup or something to keep being brought back.

KCrockaholic 09-04-2009 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6034954)
LaRon Landry. I think Donte Whitner is the same age also.

I dont really know if you can say Whitner is better than Pollard yet. Maybe the same.

Landry is a Free Saftey dude.

booger 09-04-2009 05:55 PM

I'd dump Beisel for Freeman

Titty Meat 09-04-2009 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger (Post 6034968)
I'd dump Beisel for Freeman


I'd dump Thomas for Freeman

Mecca 09-04-2009 05:56 PM

Here we go.

Landry is 24
Michael Griffin is 24
Reggie Nelson is 25
Brandon Merriweather is 25
Donte Whitner is 24
Kenny Phillips is 22


So I think that kind of shoots down the Pollard age thing seeing how good numerous of those guys are.


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