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'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 02:56 PM
****Official Revisionist History Thread****
 
I can't wait to hear about how clutch Cassel is in the 4th quarter.
About how brilliant that underthrow to Chambers for the TD (and the two underthrows to Bowe were)
About how his QB rating from 5:00 in was perfect.

So, let's ignore the game and crown him king of the prevent

Brock 11-08-2009 02:58 PM
His deep ball is rather Thigpenesque.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 03:00 PM
Wow, the safety just saved an easy pick.

Bane 11-08-2009 03:00 PM
My push mower is more clutch then Cassel.

He is pretty consistent towards the end of the game when the other team pretty much knows the game is over and play their soft D.Kinda like when you put your 3rd stringer in when you're up by 30 points and they let him score a few so his vagina isnt so sore the next day.LMAO

BigChiefFan 11-08-2009 03:00 PM
He's showing some heart. Why bag on that?

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 03:05 PM
Time for the box score brigade to tell us about how well Cassel played.

chiefs1111 11-08-2009 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6244721)
Time for the box score brigade to tell us about how well Cassel played.
He is king of the garbage TD's

-King- 11-08-2009 03:09 PM
He needs to absorb some of Croyles injury charm so we can get Croyle in.

Hootie 11-08-2009 03:10 PM
great thread hamas (douche)

Reaper16 11-08-2009 03:12 PM
Same deal with Thigpen last year... there's generally some kind of statistical production but if you watch the game you will be thoroughly unimpressed.

chiefs1111 11-08-2009 03:13 PM
and did Chris Chambers not play until the 4th qt or what??? damn this team pisses me off.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6244782)
great thread hamas (douche)
It's the truth. Guy was complete ass all day, and people are going to fall over themselves to blow him because he threw a flutterball TD to Chambers and got bailed out multiple times on the final drive.

Titty Meat 11-08-2009 03:14 PM
Hamas, How does one be a good QB when you are constatnly getting hit and the play caller is Paul Hackett?

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6244807)
Hamas, How does one be a good QB when you are constatnly getting hit and the play caller is Paul Hackett?
Don't sense the rush when it's not there.

Don't target Lance Long 15 times.

Don't throw the ball inaccurately past 10 yards.

Just a few.

Reaper16 11-08-2009 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6244807)
Hamas, How does one be a good QB when you are constatnly getting hit and the play caller is Paul Hackett?
Cassel doesn't play for the Raiders.

chiefs1111 11-08-2009 03:17 PM
Cassel has yet to put together a complete half of good football. At least Tyler Thigpen,in all his suckage. could play good for the 1st half.

Titty Meat 11-08-2009 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6244818)
Don't sense the rush when it's not there.

Don't target Lance Long 15 times.

Don't throw the ball inaccurately past 10 yards.

Just a few.
So after getting hit all season he shouldn't assume there probably will be a pass rush? Really I think you guys are picking at hairs, Cassel is hardly the problem with this offense. I'd say not having an o-line or playmakers would make most Qb's look like shit.


Also can we discuss how the Chiefs should draft Eric Berry now? After watching the Jaguars beat the shit out of the Chiefs D-line?

LaChapelle 11-08-2009 03:18 PM
better than laying down

DeezNutz 11-08-2009 03:18 PM
When Haley allows him to throw the ball, Cassel is very effective.

Mecca 11-08-2009 03:19 PM
That is now 5 garbage time TD's for the year.

DeezNutz 11-08-2009 03:19 PM
0 INTs.

Last I checked, that's pretty good.

Mecca 11-08-2009 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6244838)
0 INTs.

Last I checked, that's pretty good.
I'm to this point now where I think he doesn't throw many INT's because he's either throwing to a guy right next to him or he misses so badly no one can get it.

The Bad Guy 11-08-2009 03:22 PM
I think at this point Cassel should just quit at the end of games.

Bane 11-08-2009 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6244850)
I'm to this point now where I think he doesn't throw many INT's because he's either throwing to a guy right next to him or he misses so badly no one can get it.
:LOL::thumb:

notorious 11-08-2009 03:23 PM
His Trade value is going through the roof!


The stats don't lie, he is a to 3 QB that is stuck on a bad team.


It will take a couple of 1st rounders to save him from this team.


If we can just find a GM that believes the bullshit I listed above, we might just be in business (never happen, though).

Marcellus 11-08-2009 03:27 PM
Cassel wasn't good enough most of the game.

The game plan was not good enough, especially after a bye week.

Mike Brown sucks. Speaking of revisionist history, not too many people were Brown bashers prior to the season. I dont think anybody would have predicted he would be this bad.

Hali had a strong should have been better game. JAckson had his best game of the season quietly.

Morgan did not impress in any way shape or form regardless of what Hamas thinks. I was hoping for something and he showed shit.

dirk digler 11-08-2009 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6244832)
When Haley allows him to throw the ball, Cassel is very effective.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not but I agree with this statement regardless.

I don't understand why Haley is not more aggressive in the first half and even in the 2nd half without the game on the line

The Bad Guy 11-08-2009 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6244884)
Morgan did not impress in any way shape or form regardless of what Hamas thinks. I was hoping for something and he showed shit.
He looked awful.

Eric Berry has to be target #1.

DeezNutz 11-08-2009 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6244895)
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not but I agree with this statement regardless.

I don't understand why Haley is not more aggressive in the first half and even in the 2nd half without the game on the line
Little bit of both.

I think Cassel sucks, but the neutered playbook does him absolutely no favors.

milkman 11-08-2009 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6244884)
Cassel wasn't good enough most of the game.

The game plan was not good enough, especially after a bye week.

Mike Brown sucks. Speaking of revisionist history, not too many people were Brown bashers prior to the season. I dont think anybody would have predicted he would be this bad.

Hali had a strong should have been better game. JAckson had his best game of the season quietly.

Morgan did not impress in any way shape or form regardless of what Hamas thinks. I was hoping for something and he showed shit.
You really don't know anything about football, do you?

Mecca 11-08-2009 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6244895)
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not but I agree with this statement regardless.

I don't understand why Haley is not more aggressive in the first half and even in the 2nd half without the game on the line
Because honestly if you let Cassel do that for an entire game he'll throw picks and like it or not part of this year is about protecting Cassel...his stats make him look better than he's played.

dirk digler 11-08-2009 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6244907)
Little bit of both.

I think Cassel sucks, but the neutered playbook does him absolutely no favors.
I am not on the Cassel sucks bandwagon yet but when the playbook gets opened up he is money most of the time.

When Haley was hired I was expecting the more aggressive approach like we have seen several times this season at the end of games. But Haley's play calling in the first half is Hermesque.

milkman 11-08-2009 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6244899)
He looked awful.

Eric Berry has to be target #1.
Morgan didn't get out of position in pass D often, didn't make any big mistakes, didn't take bad angles, and was damn good in run support.

He still needs to develop, but he played well, and teamed with Berry or Mays, we could have a tremndous safety tamdem moving into the future.

dirk digler 11-08-2009 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6244912)
Because honestly if you let Cassel do that for an entire game he'll throw picks and like it or not part of this year is about protecting Cassel...his stats make him look better than he's played.
Maybe but he doesn't throw INT's at the end of games. They just need to open it up more.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 03:38 PM
Only a dumbass would think that Morgan played poorly.

Dude did really ****ing well for his first start. Didn't get beat deep, kept everything in front of him, and missed *1* tackle, and that was after he wrapped up, but MJD got bulldozed in by his line.

Tribal Warfare 11-08-2009 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6244951)
Only a dumbass would think that Morgan played poorly.

Dude did really ****ing well for his first start. Didn't get beat deep, kept everything in front of him, and missed *1* tackle, and that was after he wrapped up, but MJD got bulldozed in by his line.

After how Mike Brown played I'm on the Berry/Mays sweepstakes bandwagon.

chiefs1111 11-08-2009 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6244951)
Only a dumbass would think that Morgan played poorly.

Dude did really ****ing well for his first start. Didn't get beat deep, kept everything in front of him, and missed *1* tackle, and that was after he wrapped up, but MJD got bulldozed in by his line.
For sure,Morgan played well today in his first start. Hopefully Haley will be smart enough too keep him in the starting lineup.

dirk digler 11-08-2009 03:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6244951)
Only a dumbass would think that Morgan played poorly.

Dude did really ****ing well for his first start. Didn't get beat deep, kept everything in front of him, and missed *1* tackle, and that was after he wrapped up, but MJD got bulldozed in by his line.
I don't think he played poorly but that first TD he either completely whiffed or went to the wrong hole from what I could tell but he was the run support on that play.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 6244966)
For sure,Morgan played well today in his first start. Hopefully Haley will be smart enough too keep him in the starting lineup.
He also filled numerous gaps in run support that helped other guys stop MJD. On one play in particular, they blitzed him and he got past the OL and forced the play to the outside, where DeMorrio whiffed but we got MJD down for almost no gain.

The Bad Guy 11-08-2009 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6244933)
Morgan didn't get out of position in pass D often, didn't make any big mistakes, didn't take bad angles, and was damn good in run support.

He still needs to develop, but he played well, and teamed with Berry or Mays, we could have a tremndous safety tamdem moving into the future.
I completely screwed up that post. I thought it said Brown.

Morgan did not do horribly. There's something to build on there.

chiefs1111 11-08-2009 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6244993)
He also filled numerous gaps in run support that helped other guys stop MJD. On one play in particular, they blitzed him and he got past the OL and forced the play to the outside, where DeMorrio whiffed but we got MJD down for almost no gain.
I really think Morgan can be a pretty good safety. He just needs the playing time. Iam sure he will make some mistakes as well but in the long run the Chiefs will be better with him in there.

Marcellus 11-08-2009 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6244908)
You really don't know anything about football, do you?
Dude, you are fighting a losing battle. There are about 3 people on this entire board who think Morgan had a decent game and that is only because that supports their agenda.

I was hoping he would play well, I was not rooting against him.

Before you question my football knowledge you need to check where your personal agenda and opinions are affecting your stances on things.

KCUnited 11-08-2009 03:52 PM
Every qb, running back, and wr should have an asteriks put by their totats because they played the Chiefs D.

OnTheWarpath15 11-08-2009 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6245010)
Dude, you are fighting a losing battle. There are about 3 people on this entire board who think Morgan had a decent game and that is only because that supports their agenda.

I was hoping he would play well, I was not rooting against him.

Before you question my football knowledge you need to check where your personal agenda and opinions are affecting your stances on things.
I'd love to see you breakdown of all Morgan's ****-up's today.

For the one obvious mistake in run support on the Jennings TD (which was highlighted by Brown's incompetence) he had many other solid plays in run support, and was rarely if ever out of position in the passing game.

We'll wait.

EyePod 11-08-2009 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6244598)
I can't wait to hear about how clutch Cassel is in the 4th quarter.
About how brilliant that underthrow to Chambers for the TD (and the two underthrows to Bowe were)
About how his QB rating from 5:00 in was perfect.

So, let's ignore the game and crown him king of the prevent
Look, I agree wholeheartedly that Cassel isn't the answer. He looked serviceable in those last drives. That's not what I want in my starting QB though. I don't want serviceable. He did move us down the field, so he made me eat my hat there. But he still looks like he's holding our WR's back with his inaccuracies. If he could throw the ball better we would have more YAC instead of our receivers diving for the ball to make it in the first place. And we still lost.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6245010)
Dude, you are fighting a losing battle. There are about 3 people on this entire board who think Morgan had a decent game and that is only because that supports their agenda.

I was hoping he would play well, I was not rooting against him.

Before you question my football knowledge you need to check where your personal agenda and opinions are affecting your stances on things.
There are more than that in this thread, you ****ing dipshit.

Titty Meat 11-08-2009 03:55 PM
Morgan hasn't played much and he did a great job today watch Haley not start him anymore this year.

EyePod 11-08-2009 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6245021)
I'd love to see you breakdown of all Morgan's ****-up's today.

For the one obvious mistake in run support on the Jennings TD (which was highlighted by Brown's incompetence) he had many other solid plays in run support, and was rarely if ever out of position in the passing game.

We'll wait.
He's better than Brown, that's for sure. Morgan didn't give up 3 touchdowns today like Mikey. Remember when he was good and his negatives included being injured? I do. He wasn't a Chief. Now I wish he was injured so he wouldn't be adding his negative qualities to the Chiefs.

Old Mike Brown Negatives: Injured all the time
New Mike Brown Negatives: Slow, bad at coverage, bad tackling angles, poor tackling in general, is on the field too much

Titty Meat 11-08-2009 03:59 PM
I'll say this about Mike Brown, watching him his whole career he used to be a physical safety which is why he was always injured. This year it looks like he plays way off and doesn't go for the big hit so he doesn't get hurt. At this point its fair to say he's just playing for a paycheck. Morgan played solid and should replace him but cut the safeties some slack it certainly doesn't help this D-line got no push.

milkman 11-08-2009 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6245024)
There are more than that in this thread, you ****ing dipshit.
I really enjoy how it's some agnda we are trying to support that leads us to believe that he played pretty well.

It's pretyy simple.

I want the best, most talented players out there, and Morgan outplayed any safety that has been trotted out there this year, has far more talent, and is only beginning to grasp the game.

So, yeah, I guess rooting for the best player in a given position is an agenda, then I have an agenda.

OnTheWarpath15 11-08-2009 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6245044)
I really enjoy how it's some agnda we are trying to support that leads us to believe that he played pretty well.

It's pretyy simple.

I want the best, most talented players out there, and Morgan outplayed any safety that has been trotted out there this year, has far more talent, and is only beginning to grasp the game.

So, yeah, I guess rooting for the best player in a given position is an agenda, then I have an agenda.
:clap:

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6245048)
:clap:
Why do you hate the Chiefs?

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-08-2009 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6245060)
Why do you hate the Chiefs?
****in' fair weather fan.

Pioli Zombie 11-08-2009 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6245044)
I really enjoy how it's some agnda we are trying to support that leads us to believe that he played pretty well.

It's pretyy simple.

I want the best, most talented players out there, and Morgan outplayed any safety that has been trotted out there this year, has far more talent, and is only beginning to grasp the game.

So, yeah, I guess rooting for the best player in a given position is an agenda, then I have an agenda.
Ok, Dairy Queen.
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 11-08-2009 05:10 PM
Isn't this the same as Sanchez baiting? I doubt many who watched the game are going to praise Cassel, yet you still cream yourself at the opportunity to criticize him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 11-08-2009 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 6245326)
Isn't this the same as Sanchez baiting? I doubt many who watched the game are going to praise Cassel, yet you still cream yourself at the opportunity to criticize him.
The QB for the Jets was not playing for the Chiefs today.


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