Why you should be scared...
 

Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games.

Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster.

Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there.

Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games.

22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.

You must be uber pissed if you are checking the BB before your column is printed.

Your axe grinding gets old.

You have an agenda and are upset about lack of access. /lalalalalalalalalalalalalala--with fingers in my ears/

I'm sure every coach and GM hopes they'll be competitive. And I know every one of them won't say they don't.

:deevee:

No column tomorrow. Skipped the trip to cover KU-KState.

We already have Mecca and he works for free. Way to add value to the site.

You've obtusely alluded to sources who warned you about Pioli and co.

Why so secret to this point?

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you're fat ass hasn't written an article about the team anyway, just crap because Pioli pulled your playa card.

Because you don't just out people who work in the industry (media and football)... I didn't do the necessary homework on Pioli. I was irresponsible.

OK, whatever this means. Some of you guys are comical.

ROFL

I remember your article waaay back advising this fan base not to blindly hand the keys of the house over like we did with Carl, and to ask questions and be ever-vigilant.

Man, was I wrong and you RIGHT.

And unlike some of these ****s around here, I GET that being a beat reporter for this team must be like chewing tin foil when you get the same scripted, blase answers over and over again by a couple of jokers who want everyone to believe that they're holding a full-house close to the vest.

All I ask is be fair, but don't hold back on riding their asses if it's warranted.
Cheers!

Is this really Jason Whitlock? If it is I've always wanted to say one thing to you.

Grow up. For someone who is supposed to be a professional journalist you sure are petty and childish in your approach. Clearly, you have allowed your vindictive feelings to cloud your journalistic objectivity. Even when there may be a seed of truth in what you say it is overshadowed by your cartoonish drama queen behavior. Your personal agenda is blatantly obvious to all and it should be an embarrassment to both yourself and your employer.

I can't stand to read your tripe anymore. Please, just stop with all the self-serving soap opera bullshit and start acting like a real sports journalist.

We are past the frustration stage. Most of us has given up on anything productive coming out of the assembly of losers on the field.


The most unfortunate part is that almost every Chiefs fan could tell you what the major problems were with this team before the season. Nothing was done to address these issues which is what pisses most of us off. Millions under the cap, no real effort towards fixing the problems.



There isn't a single damn thing any of us can do about it.

He's not a beat reporter. He's a columnist.

OK, penchief. Thanks for the career advice. Got it. I'll do better.

Damn, do you swallow, too?

that.

I really wish there was a dick-sucking smiley. I would post it here.

Okay, he's a columnist. My bad.

I thought whitlock was Big Sexy?

it simply implies that 4/5 of your articles nowadays dont even include the dealings of the team anymore, just bitching about management not letting you as close to the team as in the past.

I dont blame them, you try to drive a wedge in between the players and the management/coaches too much. ala Waters.

Disregard the personnel attack, I thought it was some random poster and not really you.

LMAO

LOL

LMAO

Both accounts are his.

I really wish there was a Jim Jones, Kool-Aid drinking smiley. I would post it right here.

I don't know about Pioli but I'm ready for Haley to hit the highway...

That's right. I should've ignored the fact that KC's Pro Bowl offensive guard wanted to be traded after meeting with Haley and Pioli. That's no one's business. Hasn't affected Waters' play at all. It's a nonissue.

Pot meet Kettle. You are drinking Jason's. I'm not drinking anything. I also believe in giving a HC and GM more than an off season and a half a season to right a ****ing sunken ship.

Fatlock swings with a right, and PENCHIEF GOES DOWN!!!

I think its safe to say Pioli over estimated this group. There is a huge talent void.

At this point, I just want the cHunt family to sell the team.

It is real hard not to agree with you on your take.


Give him the rest of the year, then jettison the waste.



Again.

After watching last year, and still over-estimating this team, they should all be court-ordered double shots of antifreeze.

Yeah. I drink the kool-aid. Constantly.

You've read my posts here. C'mon, man.

if anything it hurt Waters a little, dont ya think? Made him look like a whiney little bitch, and he isn't. If he truly wanted to be traded, Im sure some trade partners were turned off a little by that type of attitude, that if he doesn't like things he wants out.

At this point, I want at least 90% of this team locked in an abandoned warehouse and set on fire. But, I could be just a little bitter and irritable right now.

Dave, you're good dude, and I respect your takes.

But you know damn good and well that no one was expecting them to "right the ship" this year.

However, some of us DID expect to see SOME improvement, and there has been NONE.

Not one player brought in via FA or the waiver wire has been a significant upgrade over the player they replaced, and in some cases, they are significantly WORSE than the player they replaced.

When you're talking about 30+ players, that's alomst impossible to pull off, especially considering we're dealing with the Executive of the Decade here.

Christ, 2 of our 3 most promising young players are regressing.

No one was asking for a 1-year miracle. But this team is actually worse than the 2008 team.

Not possible. Herm and CP are gone, and they were the source of all woe.

True enough, but I'm not going take being blasted for agreeing with JWhit when he's right by you or anyone else.

Assuming his take about The Great Haoli thinking they could go .500 with this roster is accurate, there is absolutely NOTHING to argue against his take.
Nothing.
Period.

I know you don't care but it is amazing to me that you even have a job considering your self-absorbed obsession with "Egoli." Most of the stuff you've advanced in regards to Pioli and Haley has only shown how far you're willing to reach when it comes to supporting the narrative you've tried to create.

You come off looking silly and amateurish. And as a chief fan I wish you would just knock it off. There are enough legitimate football criticisms to write about instead of the manufactured issues and petty personal attacks that you continue to focus on. Is it really your job to undermine Pioli and Haley at all costs?

My guess is, he doesn't give a **** what you think penchief. Knowing JW, he gives a shit where his next rack of bibs is coming from, but your suggestions, not so much. Hey, but that's just a guess, Ace. :thumb:

Yeah, I know. That's why I prefaced my post the way I did. However, it seems more appropriate to tell it right to the horses mouth rather than just bitch about it on the obligatory Whitlock threads.

I'll expound on this once I have a chance to get to the computer, but what GM or head coach is going to come out and publicly state they expect one or 2 wins. That doesn't inspire anyone- from the players on the roster or the fans, whose butts fill the seats. Coming out and stating that only builds in an excuse for less than mediocrity.... hardly anyway to start a new regime.
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Hey, whatever helps you sleep at night, knock youself out.

I don't recall reading a quote anywhere stating the Chiefs would/capable/could win 8 games.
Link?

If so, then, this "regime" cannot spot talent. Maybe be with Thiggy and that stupid a** offense and some momentum, 4 or 5 possibly against this years schedule.

I would submit that Mr. Hunt should have gone to an established head coach.

Hey, I got to tell him what I thought of his childish bullshit. What's wrong with that?

It's a truck load of gold pen, a truck load of gold.

No one likes to say it but Todd Haley is a worse coach than Herm, the guy is possibly the worst gameday coach I have ever seen.

"Egoli" stuff: not funny.

"TrINT" Green: funny(oh..wait).

Explain. I don't see anything wrong with taking the opportunity to tell someone directly to their face what I think. Seems like the only way to do it. Who cares if he doesn't give a rat's ass. I wasn't giving him career advice. I was just telling him what one chief fan thinks of his assinine schtick.

I don't think Haley/Pioli are completely devoid of any critiscism. I thought they'd win 4-5. Giving Cassel that contract when they didnt have to and then not doing much to upgrade the line to protect that investment. Head-scratchers, to be sure. If Perderast, Krumrie isn't replaced, that will be another notch against them.

Jason I am glad you are posting here but IIRC Pioli never predicted any wins or even said they would be competitive this year when he was asked. Maybe he told you that in private if so say that.

Todd Haley has taken the Chiefs best offensive player and cut his production in half so someone like Lance Long can get double digit targets, what in the **** is that?

When JWhit says he likes/liked Herm as a Coach, I sincerely hope he wasn't referring to the field general/game day aspect because Herm WAS god-awful.

Their moves spoke that they thought they would be this years Dolphins.

I can't disagree with you. We all celebrated when Carl and company left, and Pioli was hired. Since that time it seems we've had 1 head scratching moment after another.

Haley's hiring was a head scratcher. Hiring a bunch of fired defensive coordinators to come coach the defense was a head scratcher. Trading for Matt Cassell essentially leaving us no value with our 3rd pick in this year's draft was a head scratcher. Forcing a 3-4 scheme on a team built for a 4-3 was a head scratcher, particularly considering how many teams were converting to the 3-4. Not addressing our offensive line in a draft that seemingly had plenty of talent to choose from was a head scratcher. Haley makes a ton of head scratching decisions during games. There's plenty more but for the sake of time I'll move on.

Here we are at 1-7 in the opening year of this regime and it's apparent these guys are going to do it their way regardless of what was available to them when they first came on board. It's flat out going to take some time and you know as well as anyone that the Hunt family is loyal to a fault at times. There are plenty of reasons for concern even though we're just getting started.

I hope you start writing about some of the reasons for concern, and your opinions on solutions rather than repeating the alarm over and over. We all know that Pioli and Haley are ego maniacs and have locked down Arrowhead to all of you guys. Let's talk about what they're doing wrong, why it's wrong, and what the solutions are.

It's not going to change their philosophy but at least we'll have something interesting to talk about instead of just inserting the fatlock smiley and talking about your hurt butt after every article.

I think the brass and the head coach are all in over their heads at this point. Cassel is obviously a disappointed so far and Pioli didn't do anything in the draft to really help us this season. He better not whiff in this next draft. Haley needs a competent OC and Pendergast needs to see the door.

Ohh, and Jason, I like your work unlike some of the vitrol others toss your way that's totally off topic with whatever opinions you offer, but I will say that the Pioli subject, and especially the weak nickname "Egoli", is rather trite and seems overly played out. At the very least the nickname needs to be dropped because even if you are making a valid point, using such a childish, and not really even funny or clever nickname debases your point and makes the reader think you've resorted to childish namecalling... which then makes it seem your opinion is simply more of a rash emotional attack then an articulate logical point... just my opinion...
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I don't think so at all. They just needed some veterans to complement all the young players. They were all stop gap type moves.

I think another serious problem is NE bailed themselves out a few times with FA and frankly Clark Hunt is not going to spend like Bob Kraft.

Excellent work. You got Rep!

A columist can ride management. Whitlock rode CP for years with success. Pioli was not a bad chance to take by Hunt. He's made mistakes, but he'll get better. Haley is more the problem. His offensive play-calling (except for the last 5 minutes of the Jags game) would get any OC fired. It reminded me of Solari -- always looking for a 4 yard gain, and never challenging downfield. Maybe Haley will learn that games can be won with throws downfield to Bowe and Chamber, or even Bradley, rather than 3 yard passes to Long or Ryan, or the ever-predictible draw up the middle on third down.

JWhit, cut the current team management slack when they do something right, and then the criticism will seem fairer. They've not been doing alot right lately, but picking up Wade and Chamber off waivers were good moves. Cutting Pollard was not. Putting in place a team-first mindset was good. Moving to a 3-4 defense when the team had so many other needs was a bad call (costing us several players waived and important draft picks used to just start trying to put a 3-4 together in 2 years). Bringing in an offensive minded HC was a good thing. Firing Chan Gailey was not. Gailey turned Thigpen from chickensh*t to chicken salad last year by changing scheme. Haley, so far, has stuck stubbornly to the chickensh*t predictable approach of Solari, with occasional 4th down conversions and on-side kick attempts (but not enough to energize things).

Just my opinion anyway. Regardless of the crap you get here Jason, I'm glad you are here and reading our stuff. I'd rather have you engaged with the fans than isolating yourself -- like you accuse management of doing.

The only high priced FA I remember the Pats signing was Adalius Thomas the rest were cheap veterans.

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I absolutely agree. I need to know, however, whether it is Cassel or Haley targeting Long. Still, putting Long on the field every play, instead of Wade or Bradley, is unbelievable. Not throwing to Bowe is a crime. He makes great catches. Only the easy ones are dropped. ;)

That Moss guy has a huge contract...

And in fairness here we don't have Bill Belichick to turn trash guys into good players.

Chuckle... Scared of what? That this franchise, that hasn't won a playoff game in 16 years, hasn't sniffed a playoff game in 6, is going to get worse?

I got news for ya, there ain't a ****ing thing anybody here can do about it.

What did you expect? A playoff victory? Seriously, WTF? /CP/

He was trade though and so was Welker

I am still holding out hope for Haley. He has struggled this year but it is his first year so I am going to cut him some slack. I can tell he has calmed down alot and is not yelling nearing as much.

Bring on Weis and Crennel!

****. That.

LOL I'm hoping something, anything in that post was quotable. Then he can come back and tell us all the story of the day he tried to slip "Mr. Flopnuts" past the editors at the Star.

The main point is the Chiefs don't have the type of cash to spend the east coast teams do...

The Chiefs don't compete for premier FA's.

I dont think Haley's hire was a head scratcher. As far as assistants go, since Haley was such a late hire, they were limited in their options. I still think they wanted Crennel as DC but he wasnt ready to come back. Remember how long it took for them to decide who was DC?