Pollard
 

His stats today: 12 tackles and two interceptions

Our coaches suck ROFL When players leave the Chiefs they seem to play better for some reason

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It hurt me to admit I was wrong about the awesomeness of Bernard Pollard. I think it hurts more now that I know I wasn't wrong after all.............

Oh hey, this is new information that still doesn't change the fact that he couldn't tackle as a Chief.

**** sigh***** What can you say?

Water is wet.

Our coaches suck and have sucked for a long time. The first moves of the offseason better be new coaches. :cuss:

P.S - I don't blame Haley. I blame Gunther and Herm.

Pollard > the whole Chiefs secondary

He's no Mike Brown
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We've already had this thread. Don't get carried away. He had a good game, but he wasn't Polamalu out there. Peyton Manning had 40 passes in the first half. The Texans defense couldn't get the Colts off the field. But the Texans offense finally woke up in the 2nd half and started to control the clock. Otherwise Manning literally would've had 70-80 passes and nearly 500 yards. Pollard's INT at the end of the first half was a huge play for them though.

It helps when you have better talent around you.

The Texans defense isn't exactly "good" They have some players but nothing special in that secondary...

The Colts were funny though they caught Houston in base defense and went to no huddle and basically kept peppering passes to Clark with a LB trying to cover him.

Its too bad Pollard isnt still here...

We would be 1-7....instead of 1-7.

i think it has potential to be good. They got some talent on D. Im a big fan of Mario Williams, Okoye. I like Dunta robinson, and Demeco Ryans and Brian Cushing are good football players. They have a lot more then the Chiefs thats for sure.

Mort just said Pollard was the reason for the resurgence in the Texans secondary.

I don't know, I think Brown saved a TD in that win Pollard surely would have wiffed on.

Wasn't there someone on here that really didn't like Cushing?

He's been really really good so far.

Its sad that Chiefs fans are now reduced to praising an expansion team that has basicially done nothing in 8 years of existence.....

Show ya just how far this franchise has fallen.....

If Pollard weren't there, they would have lost the game today.

Wait a second...

Wasn't. If Pollard wasn't there.

:p

Mother Fck Haley. Not just on the pollard deal but on the ideal of the right 53 with no talent. Dumbass. Mother fcker can't recognize the right 53, no playing football MFer.

This is what I expected was the problem. LJ better be next:

kb_kcstar: For the record, Bernard Pollard was a bad, bad influence in the locker room. Not the Chiefs' kind of guy. Much better player than Brown tho.

November 8th, 2009 @ 8:22 pm

nah, they'd be at least 2-6. they would have won the cowboys game.

I'm fairly sure half the people on the board could have had his second interception today. That was a brutal pass.

It's been done:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=217264

This was a stupid decision from the word go.

I love all the "bad influence" stuff, like these guys are 5 years old and don't have minds of their own.

Bad influence = not taking shit from the coaching staff.

Yeah, I'd much rather have Mike Vrabel and his 'leadership' in my locker room.

Screw talent, I want old, slow Yes men on my team.

Evidently that's the Patriot way.

If they really think this is how you build a team with today's players they aren't going to last very long.

Pollard basically said he felt like they disrespected him and didn't treat him like a man and he's called a bad influence?

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Too bad he did not care as much of playing hard and smart here.. LJ has that problem also..

God i wish we had a player like Cushing........ :sulk:

****... all three of those highly touted USC linebackers have been good this year I would take any one of them at this point

yep pretty much... I love the way cush plays. he plays with the passion and leadership that Vrabel was supposed to bring...

I heard the biggest knock on Cushing was that he is injury prone, nobody ever questioned his talent.

Brown leads the Chiefs in tackles, you know.

I heard some people around hear say that's why Pollard was awesome last year.

I'm not surprised.

As much jawing and celebrating as he did over routine plays, he probably has an ego the size of Mount Rushmore.

Mike Brown isn't good but I'm tired of people defending Pollard. His performance warranted a cut. And this should be the final nail in the coffin. The last thing the Kansas City Chiefs need is a jackass who misses tackles.

But Brown whiffed on a TD pass instead. Even Pollard wouldn't have looked as out of place as Brown did.

Cuz we now have an older slower version that is less talented? Mike Brown is also horrible no way around that. I may be wrong but it sounds like you are defending mike brown.

I'm not.

I'm defending Pioli for cutting that piece of crap Pollard when it was completely warranted.

Now that he has his shit squared away, good for him. If only he had done it in Kansas City.

He's no great loss. We'll draft a safety this year and start Morgan and no one will ever give a shit about Bustard Poo-llard again hopefully.

These players don't get their wake up call until they get cut.

face it. we drafted poorly.

Patriot way is so ****ing gay. It only works if you have Brady and Bill.

Guys like Cush and Rey are just outstanding players...Rey dropping into the 2nd was a pure gift for the Bengals.

I said it before and I'll say it again, if Brian Cushing played here, this fan base would love him.

well he sucked for us, coaching? I'm not 100% on that, maybe he now realizes that this is his LAST chance to make it in this league

They'd also love suhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yep cuz when we had him we rocked!!

I keep reading this kind of reaction. At what point will the fan base realize that if all of these players have these problems here but don't seem to have the same issues elsewhere that the problem is not with the player. Maybe it is the entire atmosphere of the team.

And no, I don't think Haley's style will change this for the better.

They won't, because it's impossible for most of them to believe, if even for a second, that Pioli/Haley are capable of making mistakes.

Seems like Mike Brown and Mike Goff are real stiffs. Do they get a bigger pension if they get to play one more year? Maybe Pioli has a bleeding heart for has-beens.

I think the Chiefs would be as well off if they put a red tricycle on the field as the 11th player instead of Mike Brown or Mike Goff.

Fact of the matter is that a good coach gets the most out of his players. There is no disputing that. Plain and simple fact.

That Bernard Pollard did not play to his potential in KC is a reflection on the coaching staff, organization and player. Anyone can say "he didn't play that well here". The fact is that Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Champ Bailey, Troy Polamalu, Ray Lewis and _____ (insert Pro Bowler here) wouldn't play as well
here.

The inability of the staff to judge a defensive players ability has become extremely obvious. I do believe that Haley can be a good coach/teacher on offense and hope that some day it translates to head coach. If he doesn't watch it, he's going to alienate so many potential free agents and existing Chiefs players with talent (limited as they might be) that we won't get or keep anyone.

He can't be a dick to everyone all the time and expect to sign talented players. They do have egos and they don't want to look like an idiot walking back to the sidelines while their coach is screaming at them. They all watch Sportscenter, have seen those highlights and none of them want to be on a team that is poorly coached, has a bunch of washed up players and a losing record with no signs of coming out of the cellar.

Pendergast's former players in Zona are saying how much more comfortable they are with the new scheme over last years. In 2008 Arizona's defense was ranked 28th in points and in 2009 they are 11th in points. I don't believe they had any notable free agents and the only clear change has been some coaching staff.

Pendergast needs to be shit-canned at the end of the season.

Anyone else notice in yesterday’s broadcast, they showed some highlight sequence to compliment the stat of (something to the effect of) the Chiefs giving up 60+ yd plays in the last 4 or 5 games…..

And during the video footage, Mike Brown is seen in each one missing a tackle.


Lovely.

Mike Brown is beyond God awful, no doubt about that but let's quit acting like we cut some friggin Pro Bowler in favor him.

Pollard was absolute garbage when he was here...he's had one great game and now suddenly we made a huge mistake by cutting him? Uh no.

Some players just fit better in other schemes or with different coaches, period. The fact the guy was a douche didn't help either.

Again I want no part of Mike Brown but I don't want Bernard ****ing Pollard either.
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Can't remember what game I was watching, but during the halftime report or gamebreak, when they showed the Chiefs/Jags highlights, one of the announcers pointed out that on two BIG plays, the "common denominator was Mike Brown on the coverage".

that is reason right there to question this administration's ability to evaluate talent.......Mike Brown over Pollard?:shake:

Just so I’m clear, I’m in no way insinuating that we ‘should’ve ‘ kept Pollard. He was garbage as well.

Simply pointing out Brown’s sucki-itude as well.


Carry on.

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I agree, Todd Haley can't get his own head out of his ass long enough, to see that whenever he puts D.J. on the field all he does is makes plays. The man can't coach. any successful company you find will most likely have a manager who is a good mentor, motivator, and galvanizing force for success. So far these guys have mishandled to many talented players. Most companies who don't value the right employees don't do well with their customers or products, this is the case with the Chiefs now.

"I'll take bullshit for 500 Alex".

Butt feeling a tad hurt today?

maybe it's the other way around, maybe he wasnt respected and treated "like a kid" because he was a bad influence.

Anyone who thought Pollard didn't have talent was wrong. Period. Pollard has strengths and weaknesses like any player. It doesn't take much for people to get pissed at Pollard for missing a few tackles but nobody remembers the ones he made. This situation is pretty typical of talent evaluation on this board.

Did the Chiefs do the right thing to cut him? I don't know. I gather it was for behind the scenes things and I have no way of knowing and neither do any (most?) of you.

No. Pollard was a bad player here. It wasn't just Chiefs fans. Football Outsiders recognized him as the defender with the LOWEST stop rate of ANY Chiefs starter last year.

Translation: HE SUCKED ASS. HE MISSED A LOT OF TACKLES. Not just A FEW. A SHIT TON. More than ANYONE ELSE.

He "questioned" that all-knowing "53" disciple Clancy Petereater and paid the price for his insolence.

Insolence to Clancy.

Pender****.

Yay.

When the Texans start losing
his mouth will start cruising

Pollard is awesome and LJ is unemployed; kiss my ass.

To the bitter end, you dipshit. :rolleyes:

**** off.

Victory: TAVINGTON! LMAO

Can't wait for the LJ got 85 yards today, **** you Pioli/Haley thread.

Would you knock it off?

Larry Johnson will be signed before the week is up.

At least he wasn't cut in August.

Christ...you're stupid.

you know its coming...guess who will be leading that charge...

My greatest wish is for LJ to meet Bernard Pollard on the field of play this season.

THEN it will be on.

the guy was never supposed to be a cover two guy. ever. now that he isnt, he is excelling. period. end of story. remember before the season when he talked to no end about playing much better in a better fit for him, what he did at Purdue?

THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING FOR THE TEXANS AND IS EXCELLING AT IT.

Pollard was playing out of position like almost every other defender last year.

I've already discussed this topic with you. I'm not going to do it again.

hey, hold on, I was a LJ supporter till the final straw too. I would like to see that though. Sumptin gotta give!

it didn't fit your agenda then and still doesn't. I wouldn't either.

If you wouldnt keep bringing up the same lame arguments, I wouldn't keep knocking them out of the park.

**** you.

you have some serious issues with people disagreeing with you, dont you?

I would think you would have thicker skin with how much shit everyone gives you. Guess I somehow get under your skin more than others for some reason. Ill leave you alone you seem a little emotional.

peace brotha! GO CHIEFS!

You're the asshole saying you're knocking my arguments out of the park, that I have an agenda.

Go **** yourself.

Pollard missed tackles because he SUCKED, not because of the scheme. Only a reerun would think otherwise.

Why? he never said anything here until he was asked about it. He just answered. Anyone here would do the same.

if I ****ed myself, would I be gay?

If you didnt have an agenda, you would acknowledge that he is doing much better in a more fitting scheme surrounded by good talent. Therefore you do. Right or wrong and without bias please.

Just for shits and giggles...how is Pollard doing on these same stats from football outsiders this year in a more fitting scheme? I honestly dont know, so this might actually blow up in my face but I have a feeling it wont.

I have said to you time and time again that he wasnt a good fit for the cover two because it asked him to do things that were against his skill set consistently, that doesnt mean he sucks. If Randy Moss is told to play linebacker, that doesnt mean he sucks as a player, it means his coach sucked at utilizing his available talent. right or wrong? I understand it is a exaggeration but tht is to try to make a point...I hope it was made.