BCS Here we come!!!!Go Frogs!
 

I was going to try and wait until the game was over but we're up 51-10 with 9:00 left in the 4th quarter.

BCS here we come! Now I just need Nebraska to beat Texas and Alabama to beat Florida.

Rah Rah TCU!

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I really hope you guys make it to the NC. I'm sick of the same handful of teams playing every year.

Me too but We're going to need some help to get there.

Officially now 12-0. 2009 Mountain West Champions!

Agree. Boise St. had a nice showing when they crashed the BCS a few years ago.

Let's go Huskers!!!!

It'll be Texas and Florida in the NC - I hope I am wrong though!

I'm cheering for you guys now that KU's bowl dreams are officially crushed.

Congrats TCU and I agree Go Huskers :)

Utah did as well, I am really hoping TCU dominates.

my favorite mascot.

Fabulous. A reason to root against TCU.

Any team that wraps up their season by waxing a 1-10 team deserves a shot at the NC.

Any team that wins 12 consecutive games of Division I-A college football deserves a shot at the NC.

Seriously?

Mountain West ConferenceROFL

Not trying to be a hater. Congrats to the fans and alum of TCU.

Bama and Oklahoma
 

Alabama and Oklahoma sure weren't laughing when they lost to Utah and BYU respectively.

Seriously.

It's not the fault of schools like TCU, Utah, Boise St, etc. that BCS schools are too scared to schedule them.

Alabama hasn't lost this year. And Oklahoma has lost 5 times. We're not talking about the past. We're talking about 2009. Oklahoma sucks.

Mountain West is, sadly, pretty bad. TCU makes a great argument for a playoff.

That's not good enough for a free ride to the NC game IMO.

That doesn't address the fact that the Mountain West is an inferior football conference. Look at the teams TCU beat this year. Let TCU or Boise State play an entire season as a member of the SEC, Big 10, Big 12 and let's see how they do. Let them have to recruit in those conferences and see how they do.
One-hit wonders such as those you cite above are merely exceptions to the rule and are aided in part by not having to suffer the atrition of injury that is the cost of playing an entire big conference schedule.

What still out of jokes?

TCU beat more top 25 opponents than Texas did this year.

Mountain West is NOT an inferior football conference. Anyone who denies that Utah, TCU, and BYU are all good football schools is an idiot. Now is every team in Mountain West a great football school? No, but no conference can say every team is an great football school. The Big 12 and SEC both have their shitty teams.

2009 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE

9-12-09 at Virginia WON 30-14

9-19-09 TEXAS STATE WON 56-21

9-26-09 at Clemson WON 14-10

10-3-09 SMU WON 39-14

10-10-09 at Air Force WON 20-17

10-17-09 COLORADO STATE WON 44-6

10-24-09 at Brigham Young WON 38-7

10-31-09 UNLV WON 41-0

11-7-09 at San Diego State WON 55-12

11-14-09 UTAH WON 55-28

11-21-09 at Wyoming WON 45-10

11-28-09 NEW MEXICO

It isn't enough.

However, schools form big time conferences should have points taken away in the BCS if they refuse to schedule the schools mentioned.

To be fair, the only true one hit wonder was Hawaii a couple years ago. Utah has won a couple BCS games and Boise won theirs. Boise beat Oregon, who could end up being the Pac 10 champ this week. I think Boise and TCU especially would probably contend for the conference title in several major conferences. It'd be tougher and they wouldn't run the table but I wouldn't be surprised to see them in contention for BCS bids.

I just don't think teams they're up against for BCS at-large berths... like Oklahoma State, Penn State, and Georgia Tech are THAT much better. Actually I'm not sure they're better at all.

Why don't you put the ranking of those opponents when we played them up there?

I don't think we should get a free ride to the NC either. If Texas and Florida are both unbeaten then they should be in the championship however if TCU is one of two unbeatens then TCU should be in the NC.

Hence the Nebraska and Alabama comment.

Before I say anything, keep in mind I root for no college football team and only watch the games so I have something on during my Saturdays. The only thing I "root" for is the BCS bullshit to be flushed down the goddamn drain. I root for chaos, plain and simple. What pisses me off the most about this whole National Championship bullshit is that Florida had four.....count 'em.....FOUR legitimate "away games" in a 12 game schedule:

Sep 5: CHARLESTON SOUTHERN W 62-3
Sep 12: TROY W 56-6
Sep 19: TENNESSEE W 23-13
Sep 26: at Kentucky W 41-7
Oct 10: at LSU W 13-3
Oct 17: ARKANSAS W 23-20
Oct 24: at Mississippi State W 29-19
Oct 31: at Georgia (in Jacksonville, FL) W 41-17
Nov 7: VANDERBILT W 27-3
Nov 14: at South Carolina W 24-14
Nov 21: FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL W 62-3
Nov 28: FLORIDA STATE W 37-10

Add in the ****ing garbage they're playing against. Troy? Florida International? Charleston Southern? **** that and **** college football as a whole. Somebody tell me how my thinking is wrong (and be nice about it.)

If you are going to argue that those are quality football opponents then there is nothing more to be said.
It is pretty clear that your experience in a football stadium could best be described as "vendor".

So, BYU and Utah are nobodies? I think it's clear who's been selling cotton candy and who pays attention to football.

Yep. The fact that we have to talk about "handing" the NC to any team is ridiculous. A team that wins 12 games deserves a shot to earn the title.

I'd rather they just do an 8 or 16 team playoff. But I could live with that.

I do wish you luck. It would be an amazing year for TCU if they went to the National Championship.

ROFL On that note of comedy gold, good night all.

Eat a dick. All you've done is come into this thread with no proof of how these schools are inferior and went with the pro-BCS crowd talking points.

I want to see Texas/Florida, but part of me wants to see a team outside of the big 6 make it to the NC game.... if everyone wins their final game, outside of the SEC Championship of course, there will be 5 undefeated teams and another BCS fail. :shake:

That's about the only way that Cincy, TCU or Boise get in. And the Huskers are too beat up on the OLine and not experienced enough at WR or QB. The only way they beat Texas is to play lights out on D again with multiple turnovers going their way. It will probably be a close game like Oklahoma in any case. The Huskers don't have an identity on offense at the moment. :shake:

They're a running team and Lee has played better.

Suh could knock McCoy out, that would be the other way Nebraska could win.

Nebraska isnt going to win but it'd be nice if it was a good game.

Lee is just keeping the seat warm for Green next year. And the power I set with play action is all they have at the moment. But even then the Oline is all beat to hell. It's a testament to the trainers ability to patch them up every week that 2 or 3 haven't missed the last few games. I'd love to see them run more option but Lee just sucks at it.
Hopefully when Osborne breaks down game film tomorrow on Texas as he does for shits and giggles every Sunday morning he leaves some film and suggestions for Watson to peruse. :)

I think it'll be a lot closer than people think. I just have doubts about Nebraska's offense. The Blackshirts will keep them in the game.

You think Green will be the starter next year? I hope so hes one of my favorite players besides Suh & Burkhead. Give Lee credit though he's played better the past few games. Yea I hope the blackshirts play like they did vs OU then maybe Nebraska has a chance to win.

I think it'll be a closer game than everybody expects. The D will keep it close and hopefully the offense has something ready

Defining TCU by bagging on their conference is pretty lame. They are a very good team.

I've no doubt that Green will win the job this spring. He's big, he's strong, he's fast and with a cannon arm. Right now he's just not ready. I think there's a little friction going on as to what type of offense to run. I think the WC spread that Watson envisions is going to lose out. I think the spread offense in general is starting to wane as defenses are starting to dismantle it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Watson leave for a HC gig if offered one this offseason. He's 51 and he wants to be one bad. If that were to happen I wouldn't be shocked to see TO make a call to Gill about the possibility of returning to run the offense as OC and Asst HC. Pelini would have to sign off on it but he's worked with Gill before. I don't know what Gill is making at the moment but Watson gets 450 - 500 grand with team goal incentives like Pelini. Which btw Pelini's wife just got a nice chunk of change to spend at Christmas and more to come if they beat Texas and go to a BCS bowl. But I think Osborne would bump that pay if Gill were to return.

OU has only lost two home games since Stoops has been there. TCU was one of them.

I was hoping for a bama loss today, then bama beats FL. Texas loses in the Big 12 championship. then the NCAA national championship game would've been TCU vs Cincy.

I don't think you're going to see McCoy running like you did the other night. Nebraska always plays Texas tough. Not having beat them in awhile really sticks in their craw.

That would certainly hasten the demise of the BCS though I suspect the polls, especially the Coaches Poll, would try to prevent that from happening.

I really want for a school from a less powerful conference win a national championship, which is why it'd be nice to see TCU go into the national title game and win.

But more than anything, I want the system to be derailed so that these ****ers can no longer hide behind the argument that the BCS system is by any way, shape, or form fair. And unfortunately, I don't think that will happen unless you have 3-4 teams with a very strong case for the #2 seed. How do you explain to Boise State, Cincinnati and TCU players, coaches, and fans that their teams weren't perfect enough.

It's the one reason I hate college football. How the hell can you pick a national champion based on a popularity contest? This isn't a beauty pageant.

Zilla... Until there is a playoff there isnt a National Champion... There might be a BCS Champion, but this system does not warrant the title of National Champion...

I wanted to see what would have happened had Alabama lost to Auburn, and then gone on to beat Florida... they would have dropped below the other undefeated teams, but I wonder if they would have jumped over everyone, in the polls and/or the computer rankings, had they beat Florida convincingly. It would have been a great scenario for a system that's built around maximizing revenue for the big 6, and it could have made for some good conspiracy talk.

And calling them a "one-hit wonder" just shows that people haven't been paying attention the past few years.

They had one hit? When was that?

Go Frog's! Always reppin' my hometown team. Got to go to the Utah game... friggin electric! TCU defense can slaughter anyone. Very balanced team. Tons of pros as usual too.

They need to split the Mountain West into two divisions, and have a championship game. Do like the SEC does, where you play everyone in your division and then a couple (3) teams against the other division.

TCU only has two non-Mountain West teams on their schedule, which makes it to hard to fight your way into contention I think. I don't think it is that noone will play them... I think they don't have enough open dates on their schedule.

Texas Tech just backed out of playing us in 2010 or 2011. It's tough for us to get non-conference games against big schools because they don't want to risk a non-conference loss.

i think TCU and BOISE STATE should rematch in a BCS bowl. Boise State is better than they were last year it could be a very good game

All teams schedule some garbage games. Alabama also played Florida International in addition to North Texas and Chattanooga. TCU scheduled Texas State and already has garbage teams within their conference. Texas had Louisiana-Monroe, Wyoming (which is a garbage team already in TCU's conference), UTEP and UCF.

RIFF RAM BAH ZOO, lickety lickety zoo zoo, who wah, wah who, GIVE EM HELL TCU!!!!!!!!

Florida's SoS is #20, which is the 3rd highest in the top 10, and it'll go up after they play Alabama.... and I believe they've been in the top 5 in the last year or two, too. They've scheduled Miami in the past and they play FSU every year, so along with the SEC schedule, they other slots will always be cupcakes.

Even if there was a playoff format, teams in conferences like the SEC and Big 12 (South, anyway) wouldn't schedule tough non-conference opponents, due to the potential number of ranked opponents in conference.

As much as I'd love to see teams like TCU and BSU find ranked schools that will play them, I can't think of a good reason it would happen if there was a playoff format, much less the current format.

A few cocktails at lunch?


;)

Umm, they have the same amount of non-conference opponents as Florida and any of the other BCS schools sans the PAC-10. :rolleyes:

Bullshit. Alabama or Florida with 1 loss deserves it more than TCU. TCU has destroyed its opponents so IMO they deserve an at-large bid in a BCS game, but until they play a tougher schedule...no way.

They do schedule them. It's just years out and by then....they aren't very good anymore.

BCS Conference fans always have this bullshit excuse that the non-BCS schools don't play a tougher schedule. Then how the **** can they do that, if a)nobody will play them and b)its not exactly their own fault they aren't in a "power" conference.

It just pisses me off, I hear it come basketball time as well which affects my school more than football.

This is the thing....they may play in a weaker conference, but it's not like they are winning their games by a point or a field goal....they're slaughtering their opponents. They're undefeated and if you've ever watched them play, you don't need to watch them against Texas to know that they're pretty damn good.

If it makes you feel better, my school has Boise scheduled for next year at Fedex field.....a somewhat neutral field. These schools get scheduled

It's not so much who they've beat and by how much, but it's about what Fla and Alabama have accomplished in the SEC. Give TCU a full SEC schedule and see what happens. I doubt they fair as well. Samething with Cincinatti. Here's a team worse than TCU, but they get in the big conference and they will probbaly play in thier second orange bowl against Clemson or Gerogia Tech.

:rolleyes: Because Mississipi St, South Carolina, Arkansas, Tennessee, Georgia, Kentucky, Auburn and Vanderbilt are all football powerhouses

Playoffs would be nice. They could still utilize the bowl games and probably make even more money. The current system sucks.

Strength of Schedule:

Alabama -- 14 (and going up after this weekend)
Florida -- 20 (and going up after this weekend)
Texas -- 41
Cincinnati -- 58 (and going up after this weekend)
TCU -- 68
BSU -- 80


Garcia Bronco's comments about scheduling makes me wonder when Utah/Michigan last year was originally scheduled, because the opposite took place... Utah wanted a decent OOC opponent, but Michigan sucked.

I wasn't trying to make the argument that TCU had a stronger schedule but to act like the SEC is full of mythic football powerhouses is nonsense.

[QUOTE=KC native;6306111]I wasn't trying to make the argument that TCU had a stronger schedule but to act like the SEC is full of mythic football powerhouses is nonsense.[/QUOTE]

ROFL

When compared to Colorado State, New Mexico, San Diego State, UNLV, Wyoming and Air Force.... yes.

According to Boise State, that tried to schedule tougher non-conference games and had ZERO TAKERS.

TCU has a problem getting good games too. The top tier schools don't want to risk a loss to a tough ooc opponent so they won't schedule the games. Texas Tech (while not an elite school) just recently backed out of a future game with TCU.