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Rain Man 12-23-2009 12:28 AM

Life with a bad football team.
 
Don't get me wrong. I'd very much like to have the Chiefs get to that ... game ... the one in January. The big one. I don't remember what's it called any more.

But I've noticed something recently. When the Chiefs lose, I don't get upset about it. I shrug and move on to whatever's next on my list. When they win, I'm happy about it, but it's a muted happiness and then I move on to whatever's next on my list.

I remember back in the days when we were good and every game was high drama. I was scared that we'd lose to the weak teams, and I had a three-hour adrenaline rush when we played the strong teams. Every play elicited grimaces or hoots. I was standing at the finish, bouncing from foot to foot and speaking loudly to the TV.

The wins were great, but the losses were brutal. Back in the mid-90s, it would take me a full 24 hours to get over a tough loss.

And why? Why was my life affected by the actions of a group of 25 year-olds playing a game 400 miles away? It's really kind of silly.

Maybe Haley and Pioli were put on this earth not to win a ... whatever that big game in January is ... but to teach us all a lesson. To help us engage in our own lives instead of attaching our self-esteem to a football team. To help us not care so much about a game. I for one may actually be happier with a bad team than with a good team, because my Sunday afternoons and evenings are pleasant, even if 90 percent of the mornings stink.

What say you? Is your entire life better when you can disengage from the Chiefs 2 minutes after the gun sounds? Or do you still curse our lack of a run defense just as much as when it mattered?

CHENZ A! 12-23-2009 12:37 AM

It hurts worse when you actually think we have a chance, but it still hurts.

Psyko Tek 12-23-2009 12:52 AM

almost numb now dv started to kill me and herm finished it'had hope this year but by now
nada

kcfanXIII 12-23-2009 12:53 AM

its more like one of those hurts you know is gonna be around for some time. just as easy to get used to it and adapt, then to mope about it.

RippedmyFlesh 12-23-2009 01:01 AM

I agree with OP the loses hurt more when we were good. Now its kind of expected.

cdcox 12-23-2009 01:02 AM

The losses don't hurt much at all right now. But the wins don't thrill as much either. I still spend most of the day on Sunday watching the late
games and posting on the planet. I'd gladly suffer a few more gut punches in order to taste a bit more glory. I think we all crave a little irrational exuberance in our lives and that is one of the great draws of sports. I t is a safe way of getting that life and death adrenaline rush we used to get by bringing down a wooly mamoth. We crave the excitement if having a team that matters. At least I do.

JOhn 12-23-2009 01:05 AM

Unfortunatly I've been through this before... you know the pre-Marty era...:doh!:

Chief77 12-23-2009 01:06 AM

I feel the same as Rainman. I started watching the Chiefs in the early 90s and man were the first ten years so fun. Wins were so much fun and enjoyable and losses really hurt. Now its not life or death to miss a play or two. Where did it all change? Dunno but man i miss those days. At least i wish we were competitive again and man its sucks to see how Arrowhead isnt the place it can and should be anymore. Please give us something Pioli and Clark.

58kcfan89 12-23-2009 01:09 AM

I would say it improves my Sundays/life slightly, but it also damages it slightly... Let me explain:

On Sundays, I get frustrated (as opposed to totally pissed off like I used to) during the losses and am pretty pumped when they win, but get over it fairly quickly and just accept the fact that my team sucks while getting on with my Sundays (while hoping the team gets better in my lifetime).

The "damaging" part comes on Mondays when everyone else is talking about the games & how their teams did. I try to avoid all Chiefs talk, but when it inevitably comes up, it's almost depressing to talk about, knowing how much time I used to spend on this team (not to mention how much I want to spend on this team) and how badly I still want them to do well...

I guess you could say it's a little from column A, a little from column B. I desperately want them to do well, but the reality has hit that me getting completely pissed off or going crazy doesn't effect their performance at all.

I'm a Chiefs fan for life, but it's hard to be so emotionally invested in a team that's so bad. When they start winning again, I'll probably go back to the way I was before all this crap & start going nuts every Sunday, but until then, I'm just gunna sit back & "enjoy" the rebuild.

Thig Lyfe 12-23-2009 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6372259)
Don't get me wrong. I'd very much like to have the Chiefs get to that ... game ... the one in January.

The AFC Championship game?

cdcox 12-23-2009 01:11 AM

I'll go so far as to say I'm basically waiting around for them to get better. If the experience of the last few years were as good as it gets it would be time to find another activity or at least another team. I could find something more
productive to do on Sundays until they fit better, but I derive a lower state of pleasure in the badge of loyalty.

Lumpy 12-23-2009 01:31 AM

I'm just getting sick of the phrase, "there's always next season", playing like a broken record in my head. When I started watching the Chiefs religiously in '94, it was an exciting experience. Now, I can't stand to sit through an entire game. Does it affect my life? Not really. I can get more crap done around the house on Sundays.

sportsman1 12-23-2009 01:43 AM

Apathy set in quite a while back for me my friends. I used to let the success of the team totally effect my attitude in life from July-February. Now.. meh.

Psyko Tek 12-23-2009 01:57 AM

this week I had a monday mornig arguement that we sucked the worst

and won
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kcxiv 12-23-2009 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 6372311)
almost numb now dv started to kill me and herm finished it'had hope this year but by now
nada

at least DV gave us something postive even if it was just offense. WE got ****ing nothing now.

Hammock Parties 12-23-2009 02:01 AM

As a masochist, I'm in heaven. Pure bliss.

Christofire 12-23-2009 02:01 AM

Losses still suck for me. When you expect to lose, the suckiness factor drops by a few degrees every year (aka "The Royals Syndrome.") It's when you hope and expect to win that the losses really hurt.

As for wins: The Redskins win was a "Whew, we're not going-0-16" feeling. The Raiders win was a "We still suck, but beating the Raiders makes things seem right with the world once again" feeling. The Steelers win was nearly orgasmic.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-23-2009 02:34 AM

Rain stated 100,000 fans exact emotions. I actually find myself hoping the Chiefs play good but lose so we get a better draft slot. That's pathetic!

2bikemike 12-23-2009 04:04 AM

Way back in the 80's when we sucked it didn't bother me so much. It was just expected I guess. Then came the 90's and we got good. Those playoff losses damn near killed me. My family just left me alone I was a miserable SOB. Now we're back to the suck! It irritates me that were not improving but I have to believe it's only a matter of time. Every team goes through it and its just our turn in the barrel.

Hopefully before my time on earth is up we will have our magical year.

Otter 12-23-2009 04:11 AM

I chose option 1. I've been wanting the Chiefs to bring in new talent for so long and have bitched about and they're finally doing just that.

What can you say at this point?

Haley's a new coach, Pioli's a new GM, Clark is running the show for the first time...I've been there in my little world and I'm happy I don't have the scrutiny they have.

If there was a message board setup for me to criticize every move I made and every decision I've made I probably would have stopped reading it after week three or gone crazy.

The Chiefs are what they are and when it comes down to brass tax it's a bunch of millionaires getting paid to work out and play a game. I don't take it to seriously anymore but it's fun as hell to watch.

All I can say is 'give 'em hell' and hope for the best. I'd probably rather be fly fishing on a Sunday anyway but I'll still be watching.

runnercyclist 12-23-2009 04:35 AM

I'd prefer they win. But Germ and King carl have me accepting and expecting losses. It will be some time until I look forward to a win on Sundays I fear.

Quesadilla Joe 12-23-2009 05:23 AM

I really can't answer this question :)

MahiMike 12-23-2009 06:16 AM

I've given up the highs and lows and accepted the Chiefs as what they are - entertainment. 1995 was the last time I punched a hole in the wall. Never again.

InChiefsHeaven 12-23-2009 07:32 AM

When Castille fumbled on his first carry in the Cleveland game, something strange happened. I didn't flinch. Didn't get mad, didn't laugh. I just sat there expressionless. I mean, it was weird. I reacted like I was watching the news, or a commercial. No hat throwing, no "Oh, COME ON!!" no scaring the shit out of my dog...nothing.

I have become...comfortably numb...

patteeu 12-23-2009 07:39 AM

I've started torturing small animals out of frustration. In answer to the thread question, I guess it hasn't made much difference.

patteeu 12-23-2009 07:45 AM

To be honest, I agree that it's easier to just move on after a game now that winning and losing don't matter so much. I used to think about the upcoming game all week and the results would stick with me for hours after the win or loss. I liked it better that way even though every season ends on a downer if you don't win it all.

Baby Lee 12-23-2009 08:16 AM

I watch the Chiefs like I ended up watching Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. Remember when that came out? Sorkin's BACK baby!! The West Wing meets MASH!! Wackiness and Poignancy with stirring messages!! Then it turned out to be a hot mess of unintentional comedy. And you were moved to watch in fascination, not at the apex of television, but at the carnage of a juicy car crash. You couldn't wait to hop on the intertubes afterwards to snark at the overwrought false drama and the flat comedy. Recall as your heart soared in schadenfreude at the 'standing in a field in AFGHANISTAN!!!' moment.

The expectations weren't there for the 2009 Chiefs, but the laughs are surely delivered.

Mile High Mania 12-23-2009 08:17 AM

I know this is a KC thing, so I didn't vote... but, I wanted to add my $.02 and it's hard to say this since Denver finally won 2 rings in the 90s. But, I'm thinking that even if they had not... this would still be true for me.

When I was young and single, sports (college and pro) consumed a lot of my life... I was very "live by and die by" the production of my teams, especially Denver. But, once I got married and we started having kids... things began to become more clear, my priorities were fixed. The wins are still great, I don't like the losses... but, take the Oakland game. Ten years ago, I'd still be fuming mad... but, 10 minutes afterwards, I just said "enh, tough for them".

So, I think for many that as time moves on... and things in your life chance, you live and die by your favorite team as much. It's not true for all, but for some.

notorious 12-23-2009 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6372601)

So, I think for many that as time moves on... and things in your life chance, you live and die by your favorite team as much. It's not true for all, but for some.

That's called being mature.

I get upset, then figure out that I can't do anything about it. That takes the edge off.

When opposing team fans talk smack, I respond with a simple,"Ya, my team might suck, but at least I'm not a loser asshole who has to have his team win to feel good about life."

They usually STFU on the spot.......

Bane 12-23-2009 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6372601)
I know this is a KC thing, so I didn't vote... but, I wanted to add my $.02 and it's hard to say this since Denver finally won 2 rings in the 90s. But, I'm thinking that even if they had not... this would still be true for me.

When I was young and single, sports (college and pro) consumed a lot of my life... I was very "live by and die by" the production of my teams, especially Denver. But, once I got married and we started having kids... things began to become more clear, my priorities were fixed. The wins are still great, I don't like the losses... but, take the Oakland game. Ten years ago, I'd still be fuming mad... but, 10 minutes afterwards, I just said "enh, tough for them".

So, I think for many that as time moves on... and things in your life chance, you live and die by your favorite team as much. It's not true for all, but for some.

I know it doesn't bug me near as much now as it did back in the day when I was single and no kids and way less responsibility.I'd scream and shout,jump up and down and the whole bit.Here anymore I rarely even raise my voice or get up unless I need something from the kitchen.Whatever I guess,maybe sometime soon they'll give us something to hoop and holler about.:shake:

Bane 12-23-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6372604)
That's called being mature.

I get upset, then figure out that I can't do anything about it. That takes the edge off.

When opposing team fans talk smack, I respond with a simple,"Ya, my team might suck, but at least I'm not a loser asshole who has to have his team win to feel good about life."

They usually STFU on the spot.......

Thats usually my argument with my buddies.I don't need KC to win a SB to be a fan. I started watching a KC/Seattle game in 83 ( it was my first football game I was 9) cause there was nothing else on.I remember actually wanting the Seahawks to win as the game started,but as the game went on I started wanting the Chiefs to win.If I remember right Seattle won 51-48 in overtime but I left that game a Chiefs fan.So as much as I'd love to have the SB wins like the Broncos,Steelers,and such,I'll cheer for the Chiefs as always and just hope for the best.

Huffman83 12-23-2009 08:39 AM

I can say that I was in a better mood after the Steelers game. And looking forward to that next weeks game.

InChiefsHeaven 12-23-2009 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 6372601)
I know this is a KC thing, so I didn't vote... but, I wanted to add my $.02 and it's hard to say this since Denver finally won 2 rings in the 90s. But, I'm thinking that even if they had not... this would still be true for me.

Dick. Just had to say it didn't you?:D

Bane 12-23-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 6372636)
Dick. Just had to say it didn't you?:D

Thats ok,we all know they wouldn't have won 2 if Marty would have taken Grbac out and put Gannon in:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:
ROFLROFL

Dark Horse 12-23-2009 10:14 AM

I don't record the games anymore, used to record even the preseason.
To me they're kind of like that really hot chick you dated in high school who let her self go really bad lately and put on a bunch of weight. The thought of what she's become really makes you sick but for some reason you just can't divorce her.

CaliforniaChief 12-23-2009 10:23 AM

It still hurts.

I'm not in Chiefs territory anymore, and surrounded by people who don't really have a team but like to criticize everyone else.

I came in to work on Monday and an anonymous note saying "Chiefs suck" was on my desk. No shit? Thanks, genius Southern California I have no team fan. Piss off.

See? It still bothers me. And all I do is hold on to the slight hope of the vision I have when the Chiefs do reach glory and how I will stand all alone on top of the hill and mock every Chargers, Raiders, no-fan, non-sports fan that I know.

I love this team so much.

Frazod 12-23-2009 10:31 AM

I went with slightly. Although I care a little bit less about these clowns every day. Sometimes I wonder how much is left.

sportsman1 12-23-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Horse (Post 6372837)
I don't record the games anymore, used to record even the preseason.
To me they're kind of like that really hot chick you dated in high school who let her self go really bad lately and put on a bunch of weight. The thought of what she's become really makes you sick but for some reason you just can't divorce her.

ROFL this. That is the Kansas City Chiefs!

RJ 12-23-2009 02:41 PM

I'd say the real answer for me is "other". The life the Chiefs have dramatically improved is my wife's. She doesn't have to live with my mood on Sundays and Mondays being determined by a football team, doesn't have to listen to me cuss the TV, pound my fist, stomp my feet, nor does she have to live with a crazy man in her living room who is either speaking in tongues or has a horrible case of Tourettes. She probably thinks I've mellowed over the years. Little does she realize that my Chiefs are just too bad for me to care.

tooge 12-23-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Horse (Post 6372837)
I don't record the games anymore, used to record even the preseason.
To me they're kind of like that really hot chick you dated in high school who let her self go really bad lately and put on a bunch of weight. The thought of what she's become really makes you sick but for some reason you just can't divorce her.

Yeah, this. She got fat so you dont care that you aren';t with her anymore. I used to get so bummed after a loss and couldn't sleep after a win. I had tix last week and didn't even go, I watched the games on tv and hung with the family and had a great time. We have all become conditioned to accept losing. Sad but true.

ClevelandBronco 12-23-2009 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6372259)
...When the Chiefs lose, I don't get upset about it. I shrug and move on to whatever's next on my list. When they win, I'm happy about it, but it's a muted happiness and then I move on to whatever's next on my list...

I think I know what you mean. I used to live and die with the (old) Browns' performances on Sunday.

Maybe I'm losing out on something by not being emotionally involved with the team I follow most closely, but losses these days are kind of like seeing a bad movie that I hoped would be better. I note that I saw it, file it away, and move on.

I'll still watch the actor or director or whatever in his next attempt, and I'll hope it's good, but what happens on the screen or on the field doesn't really have anything to do with me.

KurtCobain 12-23-2009 04:17 PM

Every morning I wake up and beat my head into the oven. I iron my hands flat and smear peanutbutter on my dick so my dog bites it. I beg for death but it never comes. With every Chiefs' loss, I pop another screw loose in the noggin, and kill one of my nieghbor's cats, just to watch something die. I don't know what to do, if the Chiefs' keep losing, I'm going to lose it.

Pablo 12-23-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtCobain (Post 6374245)
Every morning I wake up and beat my head into the oven. I iron my hands flat and smear peanutbutter on my dick so my dog bites it. I beg for death but it never comes. With every Chiefs' loss, I pop another screw loose in the noggin, and kill one of my nieghbor's cats, just to watch something die. I don't know what to do, if the Chiefs' keep losing, I'm going to lose it.

I just drink a jug of 409 every Sunday evening and hope mother nature will take it's course.

But it hasn't killed me yet, and I think I'm just addicted to 409.

Reerun_KC 12-23-2009 04:20 PM

Actually I am going against the "in crowd or cool thing" and say I have enjoyed the Chiefs season this year...

Its been crazy to say the least.. Kind of like a big box of chocolates........

Pablo 12-23-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 6374253)
Actually I am going against the "in crowd or cool thing" and say I have enjoyed the Chiefs season this year...

Its been crazy to say the least.. Kind of like a big box of chocolates........

Yeah, like a box of chocolates stuffed with diseased blood and rancid diarrhea.

KurtCobain 12-23-2009 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6374250)
But it hasn't killed me yet, and I think I'm just addicted to 409.

Addiction is a summabitch.

-King- 12-23-2009 04:25 PM

I still care, but not as much as when we were competitive.

I move on really easily from loses. Im on to the next thing with no thought. Back then, if the chiefs had an early game and lost, I would watch a late game and pay absolutely no attention to it because my mind was on how the chiefs lost.


But no, I really dont give a shit. Im happier if they win of course, but if they lose, eh. Only loss that was kind of hard this year was the Dallas loss.

PastorMikH 12-23-2009 04:46 PM

It probably affects my life positively. Instead of reading up on the latest news and re-watching the games at least twice in a week, I plan on losing, so theirs no point in looking for a lot to read about them. And with them playing so bad, the local affiliates don't show them so I don't have a recording to watch multiple times thriough the week like I used to. It's kinda nice having a little extra time to enjoy life.


I read something the other day about a player I didn't know getting cut. I go to thinking, I bet I can't name all of the starters right now, much less the entire roster and even some notable training camp cuts like I used to be able to do.

BengalMAN85 12-23-2009 05:51 PM

HAHAHAHAH must suck to have a crappy football team. I remember those days (last year).....but get ready for a beating like none other sunday

Rain Man 12-23-2009 05:56 PM

Wow. Whenever someone makes a post about living with a bad team, a Bengals fan shows up. It's like rubbing a genie's bottle or something.

RJ 12-23-2009 05:59 PM

What's really funny is an opposing fan popping up to tell us we have a bad team in a thread where we're discussing the fact that we have a bad team.

Dang, he really got us there. That one hurt.

BengalMAN85 12-23-2009 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6374513)
Wow. Whenever someone makes a post about living with a bad team, a Bengals fan shows up. It's like rubbing a genie's bottle or something.

GOOOOOOOOOOD ONE!

mlyonsd 12-23-2009 05:59 PM

I voted no difference. I've been a fan since before their only SB win and have been through all of the bad years.

I think because I've been through the tough times I realized it was just a game that I had no control over so why sweat it.

That doesn't mean I didn't get excited and disappointed through the good years when I actually thought they had a chance. But by an hour after the game was over I was over with it too.

If the Chiefs losing affects your life you need to find a new hobby. In that case I'd suggest a wood chipper. You can have lots of fun and relieve much stress with a wood chipper.

mlyonsd 12-23-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BengalMAN85 (Post 6374508)
HAHAHAHAH must suck to have a crappy football team. I remember those days (last year).....but get ready for a beating like none other sunday

Fine. I bet you think beating up a blind 10 year old girl is a hoot too.

BengalMAN85 12-23-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6374526)
Fine. I bet you think beating up a blind 10 year old girl is a hoot too.

It actually would be really funny. It would be even funnier if she was reeruned with Priest Holmes jersey on. ROFL

Rain Man 12-23-2009 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BengalMAN85 (Post 6374548)
It actually would be really funny. It would be even funnier if she was reeruned with Priest Holmes jersey on. ROFL


What if we pushed her out the back of a pickup?

mlyonsd 12-23-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6374559)
What if we pushed her out the back of a pickup?

Thanks, I spit my drink onto the floor and my wife is glaring at me.

InChiefsHeaven 12-24-2009 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6374559)
What if we pushed her out the back of a pickup?

Oh SNAP!

-King- 12-24-2009 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6374559)
What if we pushed her out the back of a pickup?

Well played Mr. Rain Man. Well played. http://www.colectiva.tv/wordpress/wp...89efm_clap.gif

notorious 12-24-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6374559)
What if we pushed her out the back of a pickup?

Jesus, we usually play with the trolls a little bit before we take out the 12 gauge and finish em' off.


Here comes Rain Man with a Nuke..........

Rain Man 12-24-2009 10:01 AM

(Dusting off hands.) So did I set a new record for troll killing? Three posts.

chiefsfan1963 12-24-2009 11:59 AM

Chiefs have to win 7-9 games next year for me to give a thumbs up for the Pioli-Haley team. They get a one season pass. Off-season moves and the draft will determine for me management ability to turn this ship around. I was not impressed with any moves last season. We need pass protection desparately. Given how last offseason started we still have so many holes that having a 7-9 win season is unlikely. Bummer for fans.
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