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Sure-Oz 01-06-2010 05:17 PM

Weis agrees to become OC for KC
 
PER ESPNNEWS!


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4802526 (credit dtrain for the link)
Sources: Weis accepts job with Chiefs
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By Chris Mortensen
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Charlie Weis has agreed to become the offensive coordinator of the Kansas City Chiefs, according to team and league sources.

Weis could be named to the position within the next 24 to 48 hours, the sources said.

Weis will be reunited with head coach Todd Haley, with whom he shared an office when both were young assistants with the New York Jets. Weis also will be reunited with Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, who was the Patriots vice president of player personnel when Weis was the offensive coordinator for three Super Bowl championships before going to coach at Notre Dame.

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The Bears had also been in the mix to hire Weis as offensive coordinator but the Chiefs won out.

Haley ran the offense in his first year with the Chiefs after dismissing offensive coordinator Chan Gailey. Haley had expressed a desire to find a coordinator so he could better manage his head coaching responsibilities.

Weis was dismissed last fall with a 35-27 record in five seasons at Notre Dame.

"Charlie's a guy I have a great amount of respect for as a coach," Haley said Wednesday at his final news conference of the season. "He's a coach that system-wise, I would say we're as close as you can be. Charlie's a guy I consider a friend and I've talked to throughout the year, no different from some of the other guys I lean on for things and advice."

Haley has begun a staff evaluation and said he has already released offensive line coach Joe D'Allessandris and defensive line coach Tim Krumrie. Many fans also hope defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast will be replaced, possibly by former Cleveland coach Romeo Crennel.

Haley was noncommittal about Crennel and Pendergast.

"No conversations in that order to this point," he said.

The emergence of running back Jamaal Charles, voted the team's MVP, gives the offense something to build on next year.

"I really believe we were able to lay a foundation for the Kansas City Chiefs," Haley said. "We were able to set expectations for our players of what's expected of them both schematically and offseason, in season and practice -- the way we're going to do things as a team on a consistent basis. I believe that foundation was laid.

"It was a very difficult year, a year we were able to make progress, as evidenced by the way the season wound down."

The Chiefs are expected to be busy in the offseason trying to fill gaping needs, including defensive back, wide receiver, linebacker, defensive line and tight end.

They pick fifth in April's draft. The could have picked third, but instead ended Haley's rookie year on a rousing high by beating Denver 44-24 in the season finale.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN. The Associated Press contributed to this report.

SDChiefs 01-06-2010 05:18 PM

For whom?

DeezNutz 01-06-2010 05:18 PM

Overrated. /JD 3003030232/

:)

Halfcan 01-06-2010 05:18 PM

Gotta be better than Haleys playground ball-lol

Buck 01-06-2010 05:18 PM

The Patsification Continues...

siberian khatru 01-06-2010 05:18 PM

Can't wait to see this reposted 3-4 times during the night.

Sure-Oz 01-06-2010 05:19 PM

FOR THE CHIEFS SILLLAAYY

CaliforniaChief 01-06-2010 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDChiefs (Post 6415889)
For whom?

ROFL

Thig Lyfe 01-06-2010 05:20 PM

TO THE GRAVY BOAT!!!!!

ClevelandBronco 01-06-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 6415894)
Can't wait to see this reposted 3-4 times during the night.

You don't have to wait.

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2010 05:20 PM

Considering ESPN said Bruce Arians had been fired in Pittsburgh, and then had to go, "WHOOPS, SORRY!" I'll wait until it's official and a statement is released by the team.

LaChapelle 01-06-2010 05:21 PM

They had to get him signed
before the cranes were done at Arrowhead



-Too soon?

Smed1065 01-06-2010 05:21 PM

So Haley can learn......

BigRock 01-06-2010 05:21 PM

I can't imagine he'd be horribly wrong on KC coaching matters in back to back seasons, but it seems Chris Mortenson is the one saying this. Which means the ESPN News thing could add the word "might" at any point, just like it did with Shanahan last year.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-06-2010 05:21 PM

Listening to Weis speak on NFL network many times he's appear very intelligent. I can feel good about this. Anybody got his career achievement list handy ?

Archie Bunker 01-06-2010 05:22 PM

The best move of the Pioli era. Love the hire.
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warrior 01-06-2010 05:22 PM

:thumb:Good News----

keg in kc 01-06-2010 05:23 PM

In with the traditional "another ****ing Patriots stooge/should've hired somebody young and hungry/this ****ing sucks".

booger 01-06-2010 05:23 PM

The giants suprisingly fired Mike Waufle their DL coach. He'd be a good get.

DeezNutz 01-06-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6415915)
In with the traditional "another ****ing Patriots stooge/should've hired somebody young and hungry/this ****ing sucks".

I'm betting that Weis is still hungry.

Red Beans 01-06-2010 05:25 PM

He's fat. We'll be good as long as he doesn't accidentally eat Haley.

keg in kc 01-06-2010 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6415924)
I'm betting that Weis is still hungry.

You make a good point.

Mr. Laz 01-06-2010 05:25 PM

weis suck ass!!!!


or not :p

Marcellus 01-06-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6415915)
In with the traditional "another ****ing Patriots stooge/should've hired somebody young and hunger/this ****ing sucks".

You are so right. I don't want the guy that helped develop Brady from a 6th round pick to all world QB in 2 years.

Some young hungry no name would have been much better. Maybe we could get Todd Haley as our OC ....oh wait......

Reaper16 01-06-2010 05:26 PM

Updated mock draft, 01/06/10:

1.) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
2a.) Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
2b.) Scott Walker, chef du cuisine, Culinary Institute of America

LaChapelle 01-06-2010 05:26 PM

Is he a booth or sideline guy
for swearing's sake

CaliforniaChief 01-06-2010 05:27 PM

I do think that Weis' hiring speaks well of Haley's comfort with himself. If he had insecurities, bringing a guy with name recognition like Weis would be a serious threat. But I'm glad Haley has the sense to bring in an OC who can say "Hey Todd, I'm glad that Castille to Castle pass worked in Madden '10, and Castille to Castle sounds good, but it's a really bad idea."

siberian khatru 01-06-2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6415932)
Updated mock draft, 01/06/10:

1.) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
2a.) Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
2b.) Scott Walker, chef du cuisine, Culinary Institute of America

LMAO

Mecca 01-06-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6415932)
Updated mock draft, 01/06/10:

1.) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
2a.) Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
2b.) Scott Walker, chef du cuisine, Culinary Institute of America

It's really to bad this isn't a year or 2 from now Kyle Rudolph and Michael Floyd, I'd take them.

Mr. Laz 01-06-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6415932)
Updated mock draft, 01/06/10:

1.) Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
2a.) Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
2b.) Scott Walker, chef du cuisine, Culinary Institute of America

can you hear Coogs masturbation furiously at his keyboard?

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6415915)
In with the traditional "another ****ing Patriots stooge/should've hired somebody young and hungry/this ****ing sucks".

FTR, if in fact this happens, and it all but seems like a formality at this point, I think Weis is a good get. This time around, I think they actually got the best guy for the job.

Crennel, OTOH?

Not so much.

DeezNutz 01-06-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6415937)
I do think that Weis' hiring speaks well of Haley's comfort with himself. If he had insecurities, bringing a guy with name recognition like Weis would be a serious threat. But I'm glad Haley has the sense to bring in an OC who can say "Hey Todd, I'm glad that Castille to Castle pass worked in Madden '10, and Castille to Castle sounds good, but it's a really bad idea."

The more cynical view would be to say that Haley, despite what he says publicly, had no choice and that Pioli made this decision, after seeing Haley shit himself every Sunday.

But, whatever.

As of today, the Chiefs are better.

siberian khatru 01-06-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6415937)
I do think that Weis' hiring speaks well of Haley's comfort with himself. If he had insecurities, bringing a guy with name recognition like Weis would be a serious threat. But I'm glad Haley has the sense to bring in an OC who can say "Hey Todd, I'm glad that Castille to Castle pass worked in Madden '10, and Castille to Castle sounds good, but it's a really bad idea."

Or it means Pioli put a gun to Haley's head and said "Charlie's coming here, it's the Patriot Way. Capice?" And that will fuel months of rumors that the coach and GM haven't spoken to each other since January. :D

Mr. Laz 01-06-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 6415936)
Is he a booth or sideline guy
for swearing's sake

booth i believe

i wonder if he is doing QB's too?

Direckshun 01-06-2010 05:29 PM

This makes our 5th overall pick veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery interesting, assuming Clausen somehow falls past the Redskins.

Mecca 01-06-2010 05:29 PM

This team better find a DC because if we're stuck with Pendergast all of this means nothing.

CaliforniaChief 01-06-2010 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6415950)
This team better find a DC because if we're stuck with Pendergast all of this means nothing.

Word.

Bill Lundberg 01-06-2010 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6415901)
Considering ESPN said Bruce Arians had been fired in Pittsburgh, and then had to go, "WHOOPS, SORRY!" I'll wait until it's official and a statement is released by the team.

this

Direckshun 01-06-2010 05:30 PM

I think the Rams might go with Suh instead of Clausen, but it's very unlikely the Redskins pass on QB, and with Locker going back to school, I don't think there's any way Clausen falls to us.

DeezNutz 01-06-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6415950)
This team better find a DC because if we're stuck with Pendergast all of this means nothing.

We don't need to go that far.

If this team has an '09 repeat in the draft and FA, all of this means nothing.

58kcfan89 01-06-2010 05:31 PM

I'm excited about this. Now bring in Romeo and the offseason's off to a great start.

Titty Meat 01-06-2010 05:32 PM

It's not official until Nick Athan says it.

OnTheWarpath15 01-06-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6415959)
I think the Rams might go with Suh instead of Clausen, but it's very unlikely the Redskins pass on QB, and with Locker going back to school, I don't think there's any way Clausen falls to us.

I'd actually be shocked if the Rams don't take Suh.

Titty Meat 01-06-2010 05:32 PM

Kcchiefs.com has confirmed it? According to Soren Petro.

Mecca 01-06-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6415961)
We don't need to go that far.

If this team has an '09 repeat in the draft and FA, all of this means nothing.

That too, so Scott Pioli better do more than eat spaghetti this offseason.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-06-2010 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6415964)
I'd actually be shocked if the Rams don't take Suh.

Haven't they[Suh/Rams] been already talking numbers?

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-06-2010 05:33 PM

Not my first choice, but far from my last.

I remember him on the sidelines in NE, which could make for some awesome fireworks with Haley.

The only thing that concerns me is the very high % that Haley gets shitcanned after next year and we give our Rooney interview to Crennel and the job to Weis.

FWIW, they mentioned this on The Doug Gottlieb Show, and the words were as follows:

"You get the feeling that Scott Pioli is treating this like The Blues Brothers. Lets get the band back together."

Titty Meat 01-06-2010 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6415966)
That too, so Scott Pioli better do more than eat spaghetti this offseason.

How bout Chicken Spadini?

Sure-Oz 01-06-2010 05:33 PM

Apparently Haley was the one pushing to get Weiss, that is a surprise that he would be the one and not Pioli imo.

warrior 01-06-2010 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 6415955)
this

Its all over ESPN------:rolleyes:

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-06-2010 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6415959)
I think the Rams might go with Suh instead of Clausen, but it's very unlikely the Redskins pass on QB, and with Locker going back to school, I don't think there's any way Clausen falls to us.

There is a less than 5% chance that Pioli admits he ****ed up with Cassel this quickly.

ChiefsCountry 01-06-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6415959)
I think the Rams might go with Suh instead of Clausen, but it's very unlikely the Redskins pass on QB, and with Locker going back to school, I don't think there's any way Clausen falls to us.

Redskins will go after Vick. He fits Shanny's offense perfect.

DeezNutz 01-06-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6415970)
"You get the feeling that Scott Pioli is treating this like The Blues Brothers. Lets get the band back together."

There's no question that this is the case.

So, fine: no excuses.

Mecca 01-06-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6415970)
Not my first choice, but far from my last.

I remember him on the sidelines in NE, which could make for some awesome fireworks with Haley.

The only thing that concerns me is the very high % that Haley gets shitcanned after next year and we give our Rooney interview to Crennel and the job to Weis.

FWIW, they mentioned this on The Doug Gottlieb Show, and the words were as follows:

"You get the feeling that Scott Pioli is treating this like The Blues Brothers. Lets get the band back together."

It's the 52nd incarnation of the NWO.

CaliforniaChief 01-06-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6415970)
Not my first choice, but far from my last.

I remember him on the sidelines in NE, which could make for some awesome fireworks with Haley.

The only thing that concerns me is the very high % that Haley gets shitcanned after next year and we give our Rooney interview to Crennel and the job to Weis.

FWIW, they mentioned this on The Doug Gottlieb Show, and the words were as follows:

"You get the feeling that Scott Pioli is treating this like The Blues Brothers. Lets get the band back together."

Last year one of the hot coaching names was Todd Bowles from Miami. Do you think he would be a good DC for us? I mean, he does fit the Pioli Rule requirement of Miami, NE, Arizona, or Dallas.

keg in kc 01-06-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6415945)
FTR, if in fact this happens, and it all but seems like a formality at this point, I think Weis is a good get. This time around, I think they actually got the best guy for the job.

Crennel, OTOH?

Not so much.

Whether Crennel is the best guy or not is debatable, but I think it's safe to say he'd be a much, much more qualified hire than Pendergast. I mean, shit, we've had a 4-3 coordinator running the 3-4 all year.

Although in the end, I think these coaching hires are primarily window dressing, and the real improvement, if there's going to be any, will come from personnel moves. I have always thought - and will always think - that talent wins games in the end. Regardless of who the coaches are. Guys can sometimes be coached up (or down), but I've always believed that at the end of the day, great players make great coaches.

SDChiefs 01-06-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6415924)
I'm betting that Weis is still hungry.

The only reason he is coming is for the KC BBQ.

carlos3652 01-06-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6415901)
Considering ESPN said Bruce Arians had been fired in Pittsburgh, and then had to go, "WHOOPS, SORRY!" I'll wait until it's official and a statement is released by the team.

but you trust Athan?

booger 01-06-2010 05:35 PM

Al Groh could be in play as well, havn't heard much of him and where he's going to end up. I think the Phins have one of their LB coaches leaving so they could very well get him instead.

Titty Meat 01-06-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6415976)
There is a less than 5% chance that Pioli admits he ****ed up with Cassel this quickly.

Hopefully Cassel cheats on his wife and she bashes out the windows in his Suv. That'll get him shit canned.

Mr. Laz 01-06-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6415884)
PER ESPNNEWS!

Weis accepts job with Chiefs

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Direckshun 01-06-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6415976)
There is a less than 5% chance that Pioli admits he ****ed up with Cassel this quickly.

I would think Weis gives him an out, wouldn't you.

Dayze 01-06-2010 05:36 PM

to the ship!

hope it's a big ship

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-06-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6415978)

So, fine: no excuses.

Just wait...

Mecca 01-06-2010 05:37 PM

So will Haley make him go to fat camp too?

aturnis 01-06-2010 05:37 PM

YAY!

keg in kc 01-06-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6415993)
I would think Weis gives him an out, wouldn't you.

You don't get an out for a player you brought in yourself. If this was a Leinart situation it would be different, but Cassel's his hand-picked guy.

-King- 01-06-2010 05:37 PM

He'll also be our starting center. Great news. 2 needs filled with one hire.
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bevischief 01-06-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6415950)
This team better find a DC because if we're stuck with Pendergast all of this means nothing.


THIS

DeezNutz 01-06-2010 05:38 PM

Earlier today, someone posted that the "right 53" now means pants size.

Pretty good...

ChiefsCountry 01-06-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6415993)
I would think Weis gives him an out, wouldn't you.

Nope. Cassel will be the last man standing other than Pioli. He dug his own grave with Cassel.

HolmeZz 01-06-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6415942)
It's really to bad this isn't a year or 2 from now Kyle Rudolph and Michael Floyd, I'd take them.

Heh, with the exception of running back, Weis is probably downgrading from an offensive skill position standpoint. Clausen, Tate, Floyd, and Rudolph would probably all be upgrades for this offense.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-06-2010 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6415993)
I would think Weis gives him an out, wouldn't you.

It's possible, but very, very low.

Let's not forget that this is the same team that had Cassel give a PC where he bashed all of the fans for getting on him, and who graded him w/o a single mistake in a game where he threw 4 interceptions.

Besides, with fat Charlie's "decided schematic advantage" we could run Cassel out there and win 12 games a year.

I still think it's gonna be Terrance Cody. Too many connections, too myopic of a draft record.

-King- 01-06-2010 05:39 PM

If weis eats cassel, can we get out of paying him 63 million?
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Titty Meat 01-06-2010 05:39 PM

There will be alot of animosity between Whitlock & Weis over the last donut.

keg in kc 01-06-2010 05:40 PM

Cody would be even worse than Okung. I don't think either happens.

Mecca 01-06-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz (Post 6416015)
Heh, with the exception of running back, Weis is probably downgrading from an offensive skill position standpoint. Clausen, Tate, Floyd, and Rudolph would probably all be upgrades for this offense.

I don't disagree, I do think Rudolph and Floyd will be outstanding NFL players though.

The Franchise 01-06-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz (Post 6416015)
Heh, with the exception of running back, Weis is probably downgrading from an offensive skill position standpoint. Clausen, Tate, Floyd, and Rudolph would probably all be upgrades for this offense.

I'd take all four of them. Like you said....they're all instant upgrades.

Direckshun 01-06-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6416016)
It's possible, but very, very low.

Let's not forget that this is the same team that had Cassel give a PC where he bashed all of the fans for getting on him, and who graded him w/o a single mistake in a game where he threw 4 interceptions.

Besides, with fat Charlie's "decided schematic advantage" we could run Cassel out there and win 12 games a year.

I still think it's gonna be Terrance Cody. Too many connections, too myopic of a draft record.

Cynicism, Thy Name is Hamas.

The Franchise 01-06-2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6416025)
I don't disagree, I do think Rudolph and Floyd will be outstanding NFL players though.

Hopefully we can grab Floyd next year.


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