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MGRS13 01-07-2010 09:08 AM

Crennel is gonna cost Clark some cash...
 
At that end of our post announcing Charlie Weis' hire in Kansas City, we mentioned that the next logical step would be hiring Romeo Crennel.

That move may be on its way.

A few prominent NFL voices believe Crennel could indeed by joining Todd Haley's staff. ESPN's Adam Schefter writes, "It's likely to be a New England reunion: Now that Charlie Weis has agreed to work in Kansas City, Romeo Crennel will not be far behind."

Mark Maske of the Washington Post writes: "Romeo Crennel could be next as defensive coordinator [In Kansas City]."

The Chiefs will have competition for Crennel's services, though. Crennel's agent said this week his client would also be interested in the Giants job. Crennel is currently on vacation, and won't be back until Monday.

Michael Smith of ESPN threw out other possibilities on Twitter, like perhaps Buffalo or Miami.

The moral of the story: If the Chiefs want Crennel, they may have to fight for him.

MOhillbilly 01-07-2010 09:09 AM

hired guns dont come cheap.

Mr. Laz 01-07-2010 09:16 AM

meh ... Chiefs should look for other 3-4 defensive guys as options.

Crennel isn't the only fish in the sea ... he's not some uber coach.

Pushead2 01-07-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6418569)
meh ... Chiefs should look for other 3-4 defensive guys as options.

Crennel isn't the only fish in the sea ... he's not some uber coach.

But he's a proven DC. there is nobody better than him right now available. I say go for it....we've done worse right?

Dayze 01-07-2010 09:20 AM

big deal; cry me a river Clark. Your family hasn't won sh*t in 40 years.

you just got a massive stadium rennovation courtesty of the tax payers under the impression the Cheifs might consider leaving KC....and go where? No other city would put up with your cheap ass for 40 years.

open up th pocket book, and actually make an attempt to win a SB.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2010 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 6418539)
At that end of our post announcing Charlie Weis' hire in Kansas City, we mentioned that the next logical step would be hiring Romeo Crennel.

That move may be on its way.

A few prominent NFL voices believe Crennel could indeed by joining Todd Haley's staff. ESPN's Adam Schefter writes, "It's likely to be a New England reunion: Now that Charlie Weis has agreed to work in Kansas City, Romeo Crennel will not be far behind."

Mark Maske of the Washington Post writes: "Romeo Crennel could be next as defensive coordinator [In Kansas City]."

The Chiefs will have competition for Crennel's services, though. Crennel's agent said this week his client would also be interested in the Giants job. Crennel is currently on vacation, and won't be back until Monday.

Michael Smith of ESPN threw out other possibilities on Twitter, like perhaps Buffalo or Miami.

The moral of the story: If the Chiefs want Crennel, they may have to fight for him.

It's good to cite your articles...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nel-is-coming/

tomahawk kid 01-07-2010 09:20 AM

At the end of the day, I think Romeo is the D coordinator in KC.

If it comes down to a money issue, I forsee Clark ponying up what it takes to get pen to paper.

rockymtnchief 01-07-2010 09:24 AM

Quote:

Crennel is currently on vacation, and won't be back until Monday.

WTF??? He's been on vacation the last 11 months! Tell him to get his butt to the bargaining table!

tomahawk kid 01-07-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 6418596)
WTF??? He's been on vacation the last 11 months! Tell him to get his butt to the bargaining table!

He might be on vacation, but I doubt his agent is......

MOhillbilly 01-07-2010 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 6418585)
At the end of the day, I think Romeo is the D coordinator in KC.

If it comes down to a money issue, I forsee Clark ponying up what it takes to get pen to paper.

i hope so, imo definate step up.

BossChief 01-07-2010 09:28 AM

**** that roly poly muther****er with the ufo defense. I am hoping that Dallas lays another egg and that Wade gets the boot and flies all the way to KC to coordinate these kids. With Wade, Dorsey would excell and we would be much better from the word go.

Wade>Crennel

Phillips and Weis as OC and DC?

Give us a good draft and three starters from free agency (I know, they will be old) and we could be a much improved squad.

I love it that he is on vacation till after wild card weekend is over...maybe that is a sign that we have an eye on Wade Phillips and its not just my fantasy!

The Bad Guy 01-07-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6418613)
**** that roly poly muther****er with the ufo defense. I am hoping that Dallas lays another egg and that Wade gets the boot and flies all the way to KC to coordinate these kids. With Wade, Dorsey would excell and we would be much better from the word go.

Wade>Crennel

Phillips and Weis as OC and DC?

Give us a good draft and three starters from free agency (I know, they will be old) and we could be a much improved squad.

Wade is not going to be leaving Dallas. I don't know why all of you are going nuts over him when he's not going to be available. Jones loves him, the players love him, he's got his team going in the right direction.

MOhillbilly 01-07-2010 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6418613)
**** that roly poly muther****er with the ufo defense. I am hoping that Dallas lays another egg and that Wade gets the boot and flies all the way to KC to coordinate these kids. With Wade, Dorsey would excell and we would be much better from the word go.

Wade>Crennel

Phillips and Weis as OC and DC?

Give us a good draft and three starters from free agency (I know, they will be old) and we could be a much improved squad.

I love it that he is on vacation till after wild card weekend is over...maybe that is a sign that we have an eye on Wade Phillips and its not just my fantasy!

shit in one hand, want in the other. see what one fills up fastest.

Mr. Laz 01-07-2010 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 6418598)
He might be on vacation, but I doubt his agent is......

i believe "on vacation" is probably just code for "no comment"


crennel doesn't want to be bothered by answering questions.

rockymtnchief 01-07-2010 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 6418598)
He might be on vacation, but I doubt his agent is......

No doubt his agent is, but it's still BS. Romeo knows this week is when head coaches get fired. I'm sure he's just holding out for a HC offer. Come Monday he better figure out what he wants to do.

SenselessChiefsFan 01-07-2010 09:37 AM

I would prefer a more attack style of DC anyways, honestly. But, I would be okay with his hiring.

BigRedChief 01-07-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6418630)
i believe "on vacation" is probably just code for "no comment"


crennel doesn't want to be bothered by answering questions.

Just like Haley hadn't talked to Crennel. BS. He's already been offered the job and they are just haggling over money.

sodcat 01-07-2010 09:38 AM

I am hoping that the Clark family, after seeing a half empty stadium and a blackout will pony up the necessary funds to hire Crennel to show they are at least interested in building a quality team.

Mr. Laz 01-07-2010 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 6418643)
No doubt his agent is, but it's still BS. Romeo knows this week is when head coaches get fired. I'm sure he's just holding out for a HC offer. Come Monday he better figure out what he wants to do.

He's gonna be waiting a long time ... crennel is not getting a HC offer anytime soon imo.

BigRedChief 01-07-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodcat (Post 6418651)
I am hoping that the Clark family, after seeing a half empty stadium and a blackout will pony up the necessary funds to hire Crennel to show they are at least interested in building a quality team.

Clark is not a cheapskate. He made Pioli the highest paid GM and guaranteed every penny of the contract. He also paid King Carl and Herm millions to move on a year early. He's obviously also agree to mor emillions for Weiss. He'll pony up the money for Crennel.

DeezNutz 01-07-2010 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6418661)
Clark is not a cheapskate. He made Pioli the highest paid GM and guaranteed every penny of the contract. He also paid King Carl and Herm millions to move on a year early. He's obviously also agree to mor emillions for Weiss. He'll pony up the money for Crennel.

Are you hearing that folks are confident that this gets done? More a matter of when, not if?

MMXcalibur 01-07-2010 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6418645)
I would prefer a more attack style of DC anyways, honestly. But, I would be okay with his hiring.

Bring back Gunther? :)

MMXcalibur 01-07-2010 09:47 AM

I talked to my mother last night and she said that St. Louis, Arizona, Seattle, San Francisco, Minnesota, Green Bay, Detroit, Chicago, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Atlanta, Carolina, Dallas, Philadelphia, N.Y Giants, Washington, Buffalo, Miami, N.Y Jets, New England, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Tennessee, Indianapolis, Houston, Jacksonville, Denver, San Diego and Oakland are possible destinations as well.

Hammock Parties 01-07-2010 09:48 AM

Clark is cheap, though. Surely he won't shell out for Crennel.

rockymtnchief 01-07-2010 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6418656)
He's gonna be waiting a long time ... crennel is not getting a HC offer anytime soon imo.

I agree, but what's going on in his brain? It's like Claythans mom finding him a damn good job and he says he'll be out of the basement in a few days to think about it. :D

Now is the time that jobs are opening. Romeo should be available to teams and his agent. He's vacationed enough.

BigRedChief 01-07-2010 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6418667)
Are you hearing that folks are confident that this gets done? More a matter of when, not if?

yes, its a matter of when not if. But some team comes in and offers him a hc position or offers to make him the highest paid DC evah(both unlikely) the deal could fall through.

Mr. Laz 01-07-2010 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 6418697)
Romeo should be available to teams and his agent. He's vacationed enough.

i'm sure he is available to teams, he just not available to the media.

DeezNutz 01-07-2010 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6418702)
yes, its a matter of when not if. But some team comes in and offers him a hc position or offers to make him the highest paid DC evah(both unlikely) the deal could fall through.

Nice job, dude. Thanks.

rockymtnchief 01-07-2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6418708)
i'm sure he is available to teams, he just not available to the media.

Point taken.

tomahawk kid 01-07-2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6418702)
yes, its a matter of when not if. But some team comes in and offers him a hc position or offers to make him the highest paid DC evah(both unlikely) the deal could fall through.

Thanks BRC.

BigRedChief 01-07-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6418709)
Nice job, dude. Thanks.

Also Crennel still wants to be a HC(reportly) so he gets some handshalke deal with another team that says your the HC in waiting, he'll turn down KC. But I was told that Weiss and Crennel have been assured that they will be top candidates for any future HC position in KC.

The deal is never done until the deal is done. But, its looking pretty good.

MMXcalibur 01-07-2010 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6418740)
Also Crennel still wants to be a HC(reportly) so he gets some handshalke deal with another team that says your the HC in waiting, he'll turn down KC. But I was told that Weiss and Crennel have been assured that they will be top candidates for any future HC position in KC.

The deal is never done until the deal is done. But, its looking pretty good.


I'm fine with Crennel as defensive coordinator.....but possible future head coach in waiting? STFU

HemiEd 01-07-2010 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6418646)
Just like Haley hadn't talked to Crennel. BS. He's already been offered the job and they are just haggling over money.

I hope you are right as usual.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 6418826)
I'm fine with Crennel as defensive coordinator.....but possible future head coach in waiting? STFU

I thought the same thing....but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

One offseason at a time.

BigRedChief 01-07-2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 6418826)
I'm fine with Crennel as defensive coordinator.....but possible future head coach in waiting? STFU

Head coach in waiting for the Chiefs? Thats not something I've heard.

Rausch 01-07-2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 6418826)
I'm fine with Crennel as defensive coordinator.....but possible future head coach in waiting? STFU

"I'm sorry, that was just pillow talk baby..."

http://media.avclub.com/images/artic...pscale_q85.jpg

The Franchise 01-07-2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 6418826)
I'm fine with Crennel as defensive coordinator.....but possible future head coach in waiting? STFU

He meant that another team might offer him that.....not us.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-07-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB (Post 6418826)
I'm fine with Crennel as defensive coordinator.....but possible future head coach in waiting? STFU

HEY! That is absolutely NO way to talk to the President of the Academy.

BigRedChief 01-07-2010 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6418851)
HEY! That is absolutely NO way to talk to the President of the Academy.

Thanks for catching that. Now I know why you are the Security Czar of the Academy. ;)

redngold85 01-07-2010 11:02 AM

imagine if both Weis in Crennel end up in KC...it would be the biggest FUPA-fest of all time
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sodcat 01-07-2010 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6418661)
Clark is not a cheapskate. He made Pioli the highest paid GM and guaranteed every penny of the contract. He also paid King Carl and Herm millions to move on a year early. He's obviously also agree to mor emillions for Weiss. He'll pony up the money for Crennel.

Hope you are right BRC!

KCDC 01-07-2010 11:09 AM

It takes a while to negotiate the details. I'm sure that both Weiss and Crennel are interested in getting back together. It is understandable that they want assurance that either can leave to be a HC, a college HC, and an understanding that they will be at the head of the line should there be a HC vacancy in KC.

I don't see another team offering more at the moment, so I'm thinking it looks good.

ElGringo 01-07-2010 11:12 AM

Reading the info from BRC in this thread has raised my anticipation that this might happen. I have no idea who he knows, but he is usually right in these matters, thanks for the info.

CoMoChief 01-07-2010 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redngold85 (Post 6418902)
imagine if both Weis in Crennel end up in KC...it would be the biggest FUPA-fest of all time
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Jesus no kidding. XXXL-sized sweats galore

FUPA's and Mooseknuckles for everyone!!!!

BossChief 01-07-2010 11:16 AM

BRC has pulled out to a early lead for CP-MVP-2010!!!

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redngold85 (Post 6418902)
imagine if both Weis in Crennel end up in KC...it would be the biggest FUPA-fest of all time
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LaChapelle 01-07-2010 11:31 AM

Sounds like both coordinators will be making more $$s than the head coach
odd

BigRedChief 01-07-2010 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodcat (Post 6418912)
Hope you are right BRC!

Not me, I just happen to have worked in the past with a person who is usually right.;)

Which BTW, they have an account on here and lurk sometiimes.

RustShack 01-07-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 6418995)
Sounds like both coordinators will be making more $$s than the head coach
odd

Where has anyone heard anything about what Weis and Crennel would make here? Theres no factually evidence that these other teams are driving up the asking price at all.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-07-2010 11:37 AM

Wake me when Crennel coordinates a decent defense without a babysitter.

The dude is as much of a defensive genius as Mangini.

RustShack 01-07-2010 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6419026)
Wake me when Crennel coordinates a decent defense without a babysitter.

The dude is as much of a defensive genius as Mangini.

Cowher probably sucks at defense without Marty too. How do you know Billichick is a good DC? Maybe Parcells was just holding his hand?

LaChapelle 01-07-2010 11:40 AM

Sounds like

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-07-2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6419032)
Cowher probably sucks at defense without Marty too. How do you know Billichick is a good DC? Maybe Parcells was just holding his hand?

What the **** are you talking about? Marty didn't run one particular system. He gave his D-Coordinators a shit ton of leeway, hence running a 3-4 with Cowher and switching to a 4-3 with Dave Adolph and Gunther.

I know Belichick is a good D-Coordinator b/c Parcells' D's w/o Belichick have never been that good, and Belichick has had great defenses when in control of them away from Parcells. We'll also ignore the fact that it is well established that Belichick has a heavy hand in prepping the D's even as HC.

What a dumb ****ing post.

Go sit in the corner, dumbass.

RustShack 01-07-2010 11:47 AM

Seems like to me Billichick's defense hasn't been as good since Crennel left.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-07-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6419075)
Seems like to me Billichick's defense hasn't been as good since Crennel left.

None of that has to do with the aging and loss of Seymour, Vrabel, Bruschi, Harrison, Law, and Samuel, though.

HotRoute 01-07-2010 11:51 AM

Either way Pendergast is not the DC next season

RustShack 01-07-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6419082)
None of that has to do with the aging and loss of Seymour, Vrabel, Bruschi, Harrison, Law, and Samuel, though.

Just like I'm sure the reason Parcells hasn't had as great of a defense is he hasn't had a bunch of greats like he had before either.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-07-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6419095)
Just like I'm sure the reason Parcells hasn't had as great of a defense is he hasn't had a bunch of greats like he had before either.

He had a shitload of talent in Dallas and did nothing with it.

He had less talent in New England and did more with it while BB was his DC.

RustShack 01-07-2010 11:59 AM

Well hopefully Crennel learned a thing or two from Parcells and Billichick.

PhillyChiefFan 01-07-2010 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 6418582)
big deal; cry me a river Clark. Your family hasn't won sh*t in 40 years.

you just got a massive stadium rennovation courtesty of the tax payers under the impression the Cheifs might consider leaving KC....and go where? No other city would put up with your cheap ass for 40 years.

open up th pocket book, and actually make an attempt to win a SB.

Excellent 3,000th post sir.

dallaschiefsfan 01-07-2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6418622)
Wade is not going to be leaving Dallas. I don't know why all of you are going nuts over him when he's not going to be available. Jones loves him, the players love him, he's got his team going in the right direction.

You are probably right about Wade staying. But "going in the right direction"? If you mean, headed home after a loss this weekend (or next weekend at best), then I agree. Wade is Marty. He gets teams to the playoffs, but can't win. It's his curse. He's a playoff loser. It doesn't help him that Tony Romo is Danny White. He'll find a way to not win if possible. I'm surprised you can't see this having watched Marty all those years.

Wade Phillips will NEVER take the Cowboys (or any team) to a Super Bowl.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-07-2010 12:46 PM

Neg rep me for citing your post? Haha...stay classy! :clap:

Crush 01-07-2010 01:24 PM

Flamewars are just not the same on a mobile device.
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FAX 01-07-2010 01:31 PM

After perusing several threads, it appears that some of the Haters are dead set against the hiring of Crennel. If any Haters are out there, I'd like to know the rationale behind that view.

Last year, people were very excited about Crennel and disappointed we didn't bring him in. Is it because he worked for the Patriots? Or is there another reason?

FAX

The Bad Guy 01-07-2010 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6419522)
After perusing several threads, it appears that some of the Haters are dead set against the hiring of Crennel. If any Haters are out there, I'd like to know the rationale behind that view.

Last year, people were very excited about Crennel and disappointed we didn't bring him in. Is it because he worked for the Patriots? Or is there another reason?

FAX

If I can speak for them, what I've read is that Belichick was the defensive genius and Crennel basically was a puppet.

It seems that's the battle cry for everything.

Bill did all the work. Everyone else just did what he told them.

The Bad Guy 01-07-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan (Post 6419327)
You are probably right about Wade staying. But "going in the right direction"? If you mean, headed home after a loss this weekend (or next weekend at best), then I agree. Wade is Marty. He gets teams to the playoffs, but can't win. It's his curse. He's a playoff loser. It doesn't help him that Tony Romo is Danny White. He'll find a way to not win if possible. I'm surprised you can't see this having watched Marty all those years.

Wade Phillips will NEVER take the Cowboys (or any team) to a Super Bowl.

The Cowboys defense is light years ahead of where it's been the past few years. The offense, with the emergence of Miles Austin, is one of the best in the league.

How is that not headed in the right direction?

FAX 01-07-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6419541)
If I can speak for them, what I've read is that Belichick was the defensive genius and Crennel basically was a puppet.

It seems that's the battle cry for everything.

Bill did all the work. Everyone else just did what he told them.

So ... the argument is that Crennel has no skills? No knowledge? No ability? Didn't learn anything about running a defense while acquiring those ring things?

FAX

DeezNutz 01-07-2010 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6419563)
So ... the argument is that Crennel has no skills? No knowledge? No ability? Didn't learn anything about running a defense while acquiring those ring things?

FAX

One of the arguments is that his defenses were piss poor in Cleveland.

Halfcan 01-07-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 6418582)
big deal; cry me a river Clark. Your family hasn't won sh*t in 40 years.

you just got a massive stadium rennovation courtesty of the tax payers under the impression the Cheifs might consider leaving KC....and go where? No other city would put up with your cheap ass for 40 years.

open up th pocket book, and actually make an attempt to win a SB.

:clap: spot on!!

StcChief 01-07-2010 01:51 PM

Crennell. an upgrade over Pendergast, but do we have talent?

BigRedChief 01-07-2010 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6419563)
So ... the argument is that Crennel has no skills? No knowledge? No ability? Didn't learn anything about running a defense while acquiring those ring things?

FAX

Correct. Same with Pioli, Weiss and Crennell. Its all been Bellicheck and the rest of the NE crew were just along for the ride and learned nothing while there.

StcChief 01-07-2010 01:54 PM

proof will be in pudding in 2 years. Crennell, Weis,any DC, Pioli

DaneMcCloud 01-07-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushead2 (Post 6418572)
But he's a proven DC. there is nobody better than him right now available. I say go for it....we've done worse right?

I'd take Perry Fewell over Crennel but I think he lands with the New York Giants.

Crennel isn't a bad hire but he hasn't exactly distinguished himself working without Belichick.

Weis on the other hand, has.

Basileus777 01-07-2010 02:02 PM

All things being equal, I'd rather have a DC that wouldn't be running the traditional 2 gap 3-4. But with Pioli at the helm, that doesn't seem to be an option. Thus Crennel is probably one of the better options.

Micjones 01-07-2010 02:03 PM

I don't give a shit... PAY THAT MAN!

Titty Meat 01-07-2010 02:30 PM

PIOLI!


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