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The Bad Guy 01-20-2010 04:40 PM

Pain in right shin when exercising
 
I've been getting back into the exercise routine lately. I've been running on the treadmill and lifting 3-4 times per week. However, when I'm on the treadmill, regardless of if I'm running or walking, after about 5 minutes my right shin feels like it's going to explode.
It's really preventing me from doing the 2.5 miles I want every time.

I stretch myself out pretty well before running.

Does anyone have any tips to eliminate this pain?

OnTheWarpath15 01-20-2010 04:41 PM

Shin splint-like pain, or worse?

kepp 01-20-2010 04:42 PM

Better get yer cholesterol checked.

The Bad Guy 01-20-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6464184)
Shin splint-like pain, or worse?

It's not in the bone, but more towards the right side in the muscle.

I've never had shin splints so I'm not sure what that feels like.

Simply Red 01-20-2010 04:46 PM

http://i50.tinypic.com/25i25vk.jpg

bevischief 01-20-2010 04:46 PM

Cancer.

OnTheWarpath15 01-20-2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6464191)
It's not in the bone, but more towards the right side in the muscle.

I've never had shin splints so I'm not sure what that feels like.

Sounds like shin splints to me.

Hootie 01-20-2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 6464202)
Cancer.

Jesus dude?

Brock 01-20-2010 04:49 PM

Cramp, stretch your shins several times per day, drink more water.

MOhillbilly 01-20-2010 04:50 PM

walk on the balls of your feet. heavy on the toe raises 3 sets of 100. The gastrocnemius is one of the hardest muscles to develop.

DBOSHO 01-20-2010 04:51 PM

My left elbow has been giving me fits. I think i have weak joints or something.

Mr. Laz 01-20-2010 04:52 PM

What are shin splints?

Shin splints are injuries to the front of the outer leg. While the exact injury is not known, shin splints seem to result from inflammation from injury to the tendon (posterior peroneal tendon) and adjacent tissues in the front of the outer leg.
Shin splints represent one member of a group of injuries called "overuse injuries." Shin splints occur most commonly in runners or aggressive walkers.

What are the symptoms of shin splints?

Shin splints cause pain in the front of the outer leg below the knee. The pain of shin splints is characteristically located on the outer edge of the mid region of the leg next to the shin bone (tibia). An area of discomfort measuring 4-6 inches (10-15 cm) in length is frequently present. Pain is often noted at the early portion of the workout, then lessens only to reappear near the end of the training session. Shin splint discomfort is often described as dull at first. However, with continuing trauma, the pain can become so extreme as to cause the athlete to stop workouts altogether.

What causes shin splints?

A primary culprit causing shin splints is a sudden increase in distance or intensity of a workout schedule. This increase in muscle work can be associated with inflammation of the lower leg muscles, those muscles used in lifting the foot (the motion during which the foot pivots toward the tibia). Such a situation can be aggravated by a tendency to pronate the foot (roll it excessively inward onto the arch).
Similarly, a tight Achilles tendon or weak ankle muscles are also often implicated in the development of shin splints.

How is the are shin splints diagnosed?

The diagnosis of shin splints is usually made during examination. It depends upon a careful review of the patient's history and a focused physical exam (an exam focused on the shins and legs where local tenderness is noted).
Specialized (and costly) tests (for example, bone scans) are generally only necessary if the diagnosis is unclear. Radiology tests, such as x-rays, bone scan or MRI scan, in this setting can be helpful to detect stress fracture of the tibia bone.

OnTheWarpath15 01-20-2010 04:52 PM

Do you notice any odd wear patterns on your shoes?

I had a similar problem, which was diagnosed as shin splints due to the way my foot landed. Supination, pronation or something like that.

A slip-in orthotic did the trick for me.

sedated 01-20-2010 04:53 PM

sounds like shin splints.

get better shoes. other than that, I think you just have to work your way through them, but I could be wrong.

pkane 01-20-2010 04:53 PM

Make sure your insoles(sp?) are still good. Sometimes an insole with an arch helps too.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-20-2010 04:55 PM

Those are shin splints. When I weighed a lot more than I do now and first started exercising I got them bad. My legs would swell up, it was terrible. My doctor's advice was "Man up. They'll go away." And they did.

MOhillbilly 01-20-2010 04:55 PM

new balance 857s

Brock 01-20-2010 04:58 PM

Take a hot bath and wrap a hot towel around your head.

Hootie 01-20-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 6464235)
new balance 857s

I bought a pair of 749s I found on Amazon for $29.99 free shipping to work out in and they are better running shoes than any Nikes I've ever owned.

DeezNutz 01-20-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6464241)
Take a hot bath and wrap a hot towel around your head.

I love you, pal.

Deberg_1990 01-20-2010 05:06 PM

Sounds like HIV

rageeumr 01-20-2010 05:07 PM

I get shin splints if I play too much basketball. The shoes just aren't as supportive as my running shoes.

A simple compression sleeve always eliminates the pain, however.

http://www.amazon.com/McDavid-Calf-S...4028763&sr=8-2

The Bad Guy 01-20-2010 05:13 PM

I'm definitely going to get the sleeve then.

Thanks guys. I've had these shoes for 5 years but haven't really worn them too much. They are NB 992's.

Goldmember 01-20-2010 05:18 PM

You probably have shin splints but could be compartment syndrome

https://health.google.com/health/ref...tment+syndrome

A sports medicine doctor diagnosed me as having this but I'm not sure that's what it was. He said the only remedy was to have surgery and cut the fascia and I decided it wasn't worth it. I would get pain in my leg after running about three miles and it would go numb.

Bwana 01-20-2010 05:20 PM

Get better shoes and it will be like night and day. I work out 6-7 days a week and good shoes are huge! I have two really good pair that I switch around every other day:

1. New Balance 1906

And

2. Asics Gel Kenetic 2

Both spank the wallet at the till, but you get what you pay for.

Simply Red 01-20-2010 05:28 PM

Brooks (though not marketed, w/ the bigboys) are PHENOMENAL shoes.


http://i45.tinypic.com/243g22b.jpg

Trust me, I know this stuff.

Simply Red 01-20-2010 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6464285)
I'm definitely going to get the sleeve then.

Thanks guys. I've had these shoes for 5 years but haven't really worn them too much. They are NB 992's.


I hate to say it, but in regards to running shoes, Asics, Brooks and Mizuno tower well above anything NB has ever made.

Simply Red 01-20-2010 05:32 PM

also, BadGuy, if you want my opinion on the best aesthetic shoe, you let me know.

Bwana 01-20-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 6464328)
I hate to say it, but in regards to running shoes, Asics, Brooks and Mizuno tower well above anything NB has ever made.

I would agree with the exception of a couple of the NB models, one of which is the 1906. That shoe is hand down the best shoe for working out and running I have ever owned, as well it should be for $200 a pair. You can pick them off of Ebay once in a while for around half that though, which is how I got my last pair.

http://www.runningshoeslondon.co.uk/...lance_1906.jpg

Silock 01-20-2010 05:36 PM

Okay, first things first:

Where did you get your shoes? Did you just go to Footlocker and buy something off the shelf? If so, you're doing yourself a MAJOR disservice. The first thing you need to do is go to a reputable running store. I don't know where you're from, but Metro Walk and Run here in KC does free video stride analysis by trained professionals for FREE. I cannot stress enough that simply buying a high quality shoe is not enough if it doesn't properly fit your running stride. If you need motion control shoes, it doesn't matter if you buy $1 million shoes, if they aren't motion control, they're not going to do you a bit of good.

Secondly, do you stretch? If not, I'd suggest 30 seconds per day, warm or cold. Just do it.

Third, does it only happen on the treadmill? Try the elliptical and see what happens. I used to have this problem. Thought it was shin splints, but shin splints go away over time; they don't get worse. I had compartment syndrome. To this day, I still can't run on the sidewalk or a treadmill. It's the constant pounding that aggravates it. So, I just stick to the elliptical and cycling. If I run, I do it on grass, which works just fine, thankfully, so I can continue playing soccer.

Simply Red 01-20-2010 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6464346)
Okay, first things first:

Where did you get your shoes? Did you just go to Footlocker and buy something off the shelf? If so, you're doing yourself a MAJOR disservice. The first thing you need to do is go to a reputable running store. I don't know where you're from, but Metro Walk and Run here in KC does free video stride analysis by trained professionals for FREE. I cannot stress enough that simply buying a high quality shoe is not enough if it doesn't properly fit your running stride. If you need motion control shoes, it doesn't matter if you buy $1 million shoes, if they aren't motion control, they're not going to do you a bit of good.

Secondly, do you stretch? If not, I'd suggest 30 seconds per day, warm or cold. Just do it.

Third, does it only happen on the treadmill? Try the elliptical and see what happens. I used to have this problem. Thought it was shin splints, but shin splints go away over time; they don't get worse. I had compartment syndrome. To this day, I still can't run on the sidewalk or a treadmill. It's the constant pounding that aggravates it. So, I just stick to the elliptical and cycling. If I run, I do it on grass, which works just fine, thankfully, so I can continue playing soccer.

th^t first paragraph is what i was going to suggest, just didn't know if you had a facility like that in KC, as we have Peachtree Running Company, here in Atlanta. But yeah, chances are; you're either over or under pronating. Serious running (& 2.5 miles per day, is serious) require the RIGHT shoes.

RedThat 01-20-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6464181)
I've been getting back into the exercise routine lately. I've been running on the treadmill and lifting 3-4 times per week. However, when I'm on the treadmill, regardless of if I'm running or walking, after about 5 minutes my right shin feels like it's going to explode.
It's really preventing me from doing the 2.5 miles I want every time.

I stretch myself out pretty well before running.

Does anyone have any tips to eliminate this pain?

You could have shin splints. It sounds like it.

But if I were you, Id go see a physiotherapist and describe to him what exactly is going on in your lower leg. I think thats the right approach and your best bet. You want to find out what exactly you've been diagnosed with first, before you can proceed with any treatment.

If I were you, I would stop what Im doing, and get this thing treated first. I don't think it's a good idea for you to workout right now, don't put yourself at risk of making this injury progress worse than it actually is. Better to take time off, and heal yourself so that in the future you can come back to the gym healthy.

*Anybody could tell you this, even physiotherapists, the best remedy for injuries that are biomechanically related is rest. Rest, rest, and rest and keep icing your leg 3-4 times daily for about 15-20 minutes. I bet you'll notice a difference in a week or 2.

Simply Red 01-20-2010 06:01 PM

one last thing, here is the process our local outfit uses: http://tinyurl.com/yeq24fx
trust me it's not fluff, it'll help you get in a shoe which is virtually customized for you and your feet, shins & back will all approve..

Bwana 01-20-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 6464423)
one last thing, here is the process our local outfit uses: http://tinyurl.com/yeq24fx
trust me it's not fluff, it'll help your feet, shins & back.

That looks like one hell of a set up and a great idea.

KCHawg 01-20-2010 06:36 PM

Sounds like the dreaded "Swine HIV", the only known cure is anti-freeze.....

Saulbadguy 01-20-2010 06:53 PM

Exact same thing happens to me, but on the left leg.

Redrum_69 01-20-2010 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6464181)
I've been getting back into the exercise routine lately. I've been running on the treadmill and lifting 3-4 times per week. However, when I'm on the treadmill, regardless of if I'm running or walking, after about 5 minutes my right shin feels like it's going to explode.
It's really preventing me from doing the 2.5 miles I want every time.

I stretch myself out pretty well before running.

Does anyone have any tips to eliminate this pain?


Since you came out of your mom, you prolly have AIDS. Best cure is a shotgun...

DaKCMan AP 01-20-2010 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 6464320)
Brooks (though not marketed, w/ the bigboys) are PHENOMENAL shoes.


http://i45.tinypic.com/243g22b.jpg

Trust me, I know this stuff.

+1

Trust me, I'm Awesome.

rageeumr 01-20-2010 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6464586)
+1

Trust me, I'm Awesome.

I've had 5 pairs of Adrenaline GTSs and loved them all. Stayed pretty darn injury free as well. I kept reading good things about Asics GT series, so I bought a pair and had a stress fracture in my foot within the first 50 miles. Could have been a coincidence, but I'm going to stick with Brooks from now on.

I'll echo the point about getting properly fitted. I bought mine at Garry Gribbles. They don't have some crazy fitting process, they just watch you walk and jog and look at your pronation. Doesn't sound very scientific but it worked wonders for me!

Dartgod 01-20-2010 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6464181)
Does anyone have any tips to eliminate this pain?

Stop exercising.

B_Ambuehl 01-20-2010 08:50 PM

1. Get some orthotics- Custom made from a chiropractor are better but the cheap ones from wal-mart will work better than nothing.

2. Strengthen the tibialis anterior- This is the muscle on the front of your shin. You strengthen it by doing reverse calf raises. Stand on a ledge or stair and let your toes hang off the edge then raise the front of your foot towards your knee. Do a couple of sets per day as many reps as you can.

3. Stretch the calves, hip flexors, and hamstrings at least twice per day for 20-30 seconds.

4. Until the issue has died down a bit try to limit the impact stresses by cutting down on jogging and switching to incline walking, elliptical, cycling, stairclimber etc.

Easy 6 01-20-2010 08:51 PM

I know exactly what you're talking about BG, it doesnt sound like splints to me, splints feel like 1000's tiny needles. This sounds like a painful pressure, i've gotten the same thing many times doing any kind of long distance running, never seen a doc for it, but my self diagnosis was either cramping of that thin weak muscle up front or somehow blood was building up too much.

The longer you're steadily at it, it shouldnt bother you as much.

The Bad Guy 01-20-2010 09:03 PM

Thanks guys for the great advice. Lots of good info on here.

I ordered a calf compression brace that I'll wear to see how it is. I'm also going to try to get inserts for my shoes.

el borracho 01-20-2010 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6464241)
Take a hot bath and wrap a hot towel around your head.

Rub some patchouli oil on it and listen to some Kenny G., lol.

chiefzilla1501 01-20-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 6464423)
one last thing, here is the process our local outfit uses: http://tinyurl.com/yeq24fx
trust me it's not fluff, it'll help your feet, shins & back.

I'm sure you know what you're talking about, but just a quick question.... Isn't the right shoe often in the eye of the beholder?

I remember buying a pair of Adidas running shoes on my own and I kept having all kinds of problems in my shin. Turns out that because I'm a heel-striker, I needed a shoe that had a strong bridge in the middle to sort of balance the shock sent every time my foot hit the ground.

Also, I know this has been mentioned before, but it's been my experience that a lot of runners who get shin splints are those who run on their heels. I'm one of the exceptions, I think. Runners who run on their toes tend to not get shin splints because they're not putting so much force into each stride. Am I right on that?

I feel like the best advice is go to a legit running store and have them analyze your shoe. They'll find a really good shoe for you based on your running style and I've rarely heard a case of a runner getting a really bad recommendation.

Simply Red 01-20-2010 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6465041)
I'm sure you know what you're talking about, but just a quick question.... Isn't the right shoe often in the eye of the beholder?

I remember buying a pair of Adidas running shoes on my own and I kept having all kinds of problems in my shin. Turns out that because I'm a heel-striker, I needed a shoe that had a strong bridge in the middle to sort of balance the shock sent every time my foot hit the ground.

Also, I know this has been mentioned before, but it's been my experience that a lot of runners who get shin splints are those who run on their heels. I'm one of the exceptions, I think. Runners who run on their toes tend to not get shin splints because they're not putting so much force into each stride. Am I right on that?

I feel like the best advice is go to a legit running store and have them analyze your shoe. They'll find a really good shoe for you based on your running style and I've rarely heard a case of a runner getting a really bad recommendation.


All I can say is, yes yes and yes. HOWEVER, that IS how they determine the right shoe for you, and in all fairness, i forgot the 'shoe' part in my last post. Does that make any sense? *going back to edit*

Simply Red 01-20-2010 10:04 PM

post 33 edited, I'd meant to do that earlier. lol... carry on.

DJ_is_the_realdeal 01-20-2010 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6464181)
I've been getting back into the exercise routine lately. I've been running on the treadmill and lifting 3-4 times per week. However, when I'm on the treadmill, regardless of if I'm running or walking, after about 5 minutes my right shin feels like it's going to explode.
It's really preventing me from doing the 2.5 miles I want every time.

I stretch myself out pretty well before running.

Does anyone have any tips to eliminate this pain?

Bad guy thanks for starting this thread. I have been training for a 5k in Chicago, it's to raise money for cancer. I'm on week 4 of the beginner 5k training workout and the last 5 minutes of running my chins have been on fire. Its been unbearable. But now I have hope that with the chin sleeve, it will ease the pain. Thanks

Redrum_69 01-20-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ_is_the_realdeal (Post 6465180)
But now I have hope that with the chin sleeve, it will ease the pain. Thanks


I make your mom wear a chin sleeve when she noms noms noms me

Buehler445 01-20-2010 11:28 PM

My guess is shin splints. I had the same shit you are talking about in High School. It then developed in the other leg in college. Still have them, but have them under control a little better. They hampered me pretty heavily for 3 years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 6464268)
I get shin splints if I play too much basketball. The shoes just aren't as supportive as my running shoes.

A simple compression sleeve always eliminates the pain, however.

http://www.amazon.com/McDavid-Calf-S...4028763&sr=8-2

That does help. Really make sure they're tight as shit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6464285)
I'm definitely going to get the sleeve then.

Thanks guys. I've had these shoes for 5 years but haven't really worn them too much. They are NB 992's.


That's too long. The tread may not be worn, but I bet the support is.

Another suggestion I have is to ice the shit out of your shin(s). When I was in college I'd wrap an ace bandage around my shin (outside in, so it pushes the muscle towards the bone, not pulls it away) and then use a wide ace bandage around an icepack on my shin, and went to bed. If you have time, I wouldn't sleep with it, but I was typically constrained for time.

Stretch your calves before, during, and after. Stretch again before you go to bed and right when you get up. When mine were at the worst, I'd stretch them every ten minutes. Stretching your leg is important, but really hammer on your calves.

Shin splints really ****ed me up bad. I tried to fight through them and they just got worse. I had to stay away from running and basketball for a prolonged period of time. I still haven't recovered the strength in my calves. My advice is due everything you can to keep them from getting worse.

The Bad Guy 02-04-2010 06:19 PM

I'm struggling to exercises that stretch the hell out of it. I'm fine running for about 8 minutes and then the mother ****er flares up and is throbbing in pain. I do hamstring and hip stretches, but nothing I've done has stretched it out.

I went and bought the compression sleeve and got new shoes. That still didn't help today - it actually felt worse.

Buehler, what stretches did you use?

Silock 02-04-2010 09:31 PM

Do some heel stretches. Toes on a riser, heel on the ground, and step into it. Also, do some reverse toe-curls to strengthen the anterior tibialis.


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