Would You Trade Our 3rd Rnd Pick For Boldin?
 

Per Rotoworld:

Beat writer Kent Somers expects the Cardinals to be "earnest in their efforts to trade" Anquan Boldin this offseason.

Their best offer last year was reportedly a third-round pick and another player, and Somers suspects that offer might be enough to do the trick this time around. Boldin, 29, has been injury prone as he enters the final year of his contract. The Cardinals are 6-2 without him over the past two years, and they're confident in Steve Breaston and Early Doucet replacing his production. Jan. 22 - 10:34 am et

Since we have an upper third round pick, perhaps we don't need to send a player along with it?

Absolutely would.

In a heart beat. Done deal. Print Em!

I would the whole thing.

So you're saying there's a chance?

BOOM ... Denver trades Marshall to a team like the Ravens for a 1st and 3rd, then they send a 3rd to AZ for Boldin. Or, make it a later 3rd and a 5th... I don't care.

Love it.

I love Boldin but I'd lean against it. He's on the back side of his career (not saying at the end of it, mind you), he's been injury prone, and he doesn't have a long-term contract so he'll be looking for money. I'd rather see the Chiefs find a younger free agent or draft someone. If the Chiefs were ready to make their run and they were a couple of players away, I'd go for it, but not under the current circumstances.

Nice try, but I think we have already seen your WROTF. He has great chemistry with Kyle Orton, and averages around 50 yards/reception.

Derrick Johnson.

hellz yeah i'd trade a 3rd for him.... those 5 games he is healthy will be fun to watch!

After the draft, if we think we've filled enough holes, I'd consider trading a 2011 3rd for him.

not much more tred on those tires.... I'd be worried about his health... and he is not too far being on the wrong side of 30... A 4th?

Without question. How many 3rd round picks would end up being better than him?

You forgot to say "Amen" at the end.

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Did you get kicked off every Donco message board or something?

Seems the guy just wants paid to me. If we pay him he better produce something other than sideline sour grapes.

Haley knows him best, if Haley believes he will put forth the effort here... then I say Yes bring him in for a 3rd round pick.

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Yeah, that guys averaging 2 td's a game and over 50 ypc for them...
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This.

I think I'll defer to Haley on this one. He should know the guy about as well as anyone and if he brings him here I'll be happy or if he stays away I'll think he has a reason. Not blind faith in Haley, just saying he should know this situation and player better than anyone here in this one instance.

I'd say **** yes. I'd rather have a 29 year old Boldin that gives us a legitamet (sp) WR on the outside then another Alex Magee.

Charles
Boldin
Bowe
Maybe Chambers.

Now we are talking explosive at the skill position. Boldin would fill a huge need till Haley can draft and develop some decent WR's.

And who gives a shit how much he wants to get paid. Uncapped year coming up.

I agree, this team has done too much of that shit over the years. Keep the picks and develop their own wide receivers, they now have the coaching staff to pull it off.

actually the real question should be "Would you give a huge contract to a 29 year old receiver who has been injured the last 2 seasons?"

Nope, I sure wouldn't.

After Boldin and Haley had their feud on the sidelines, could that possibly have an effect on their relationship? Where it would have an impact on the interest level from the Chiefs forefront?

I wonder if Haley would want him? Thats the part that concerns me.

No not at this time, we have too many needs to spend on a player that wants to get paid and has a history of injuries, maybe this would make sense after the draft and free agency.

Yeah, or another Jamal Charles!!!!! Oh wait......

I would for a couple of reasons. 1. the guy is consistent, and 2. he produces

can't go wrong with that?

the injuries are a concern, yes, but the fact of the matter is, Boldin is a gamer. If we go by stats, and history, it shows that he is good to play for at least 3 quarters of a season. Not bad. Only once in his career has he played for half a season. Plus, WR is a position that guys can play well into their 30's anyway.

*I'd be for the move, but I also think the Chiefs should re-sign Chambers. Having a WR corps of Bowe, Boldin, and Chambers is really stout.

*Even if Boldin got hurt, we couldn't take away what he would bring in productivity. I still think Chambers could fill in as a starter for those 4 games, and having him to go alongside with Bowe and Charles, I could live with that.

You just agreed with your own post.
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Yeah, so the "injury prone" Anquan Boldin has had over 1,000 receiving yards in four of his last five seasons. He had over 800 in his down year. That type of production is totally not worth a 3rd round draft pick.

It is pretty obvious that the Chiefs can just pull any WR off the street and get good production. You Boldin detractors are geniouses.

That really doesn't make much sense. If we're ever going to get back to winning, we need to find winning players. We all know that a franchise can turn around within one season if you add the right players. Boldin could be one of those players. By adding Bolden, you could say that we've fixed our WR issues that have been plaguing this team for the last decade AT LEAST. If a Pro-Bowl WR that is NOT on the downside of his career isn't worth a 3rd rnd pick, then we are being too damn picky.

I'd rather have a proven Pro-Bowl WR that we KNOW will have a substantial impact on the offense rather then trying to draft a Rookie WR in the 3rd round of a weak Wr class. And if the presence of Boldin equates to maybe 7 more points per game, then how many more games would we win?

Good football teams fill there roster with good football players whenever the opportunity arises.

How good do we look at the skill positions if we had:

Charles
Boldin
Bowe
Chambers (maybe) On Offense

And

Flowers
Carr
Berry
Page
Johnson
Spikes
Dorsey

On D.

That's impact right there. Especially with a Weiss and Crennel coaching.

I only did that because I posted that response in the REPOST thread. So I quoted it and posted it over here.

**** that
Bigfoot is free

Good point.

Thanks but I'm going to have to quote Nancy Reagan and, "Just Say, No!"

It's funny how much of a difference 1 season makes. Now all of a sudden he's old, injury prone and not worth the money. Gimme a break.

Dont think teams are going to offer a #1 for Marshall. Unlikely. I see a 2nd and maybe a 4th, but not a 1st.

I wouldn't be surprised. There is always a team dumb enough. Always. Didn't the lions get a 1st for Williams?

lmao

Hmmm... why would you think that happened?

Enh, I dunno about that...

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what's so funny?

I'd like him on the team, and we will likely screw up our 3rd rounder anyway, so do it

Yeah what are the chances that our 3rd turns out to contribute 1/2 as much as Boldin would over the next 2-3 years.

I'd be for that for a 3rd if it was possible.

He'd add a lot.

In the drop of a dime.

The fact that he listed Alex Magee as a WR option, since the current options we have at that position blow ass and can't catch.

No freakin' way. I'd rather have Doucet, by a mile.

Boldin is unreliable at this stage in his career. By the time the Chiefs are ready to compete, he'll be 30 or 31 and I'd rather have a 24 year old receiver on the team at that time than a guy in his 30's.

With the fifth pick in the third round of the 2010 draft, the Chiefs have the opportunity to select a player that will be with the team for a decade.

Not two years.

Im just going to throw this out there for shits and giggles. Everyone knows hes not currently happy with the organization and the lack of a long term contract. He feels wronged by the Cards for giving Fitz it, and not him. In his mind I believe, however wrong it might be, that he thinks he is the same calibur player as Fitz.

Whos to say that once he gets his contract and feels appreciated that he wont play through some of those injuries that held him out the past couple of years. Maybe he just used them as an excuse to not play for a team he wants out of. Not saying thats a good or bad thing, just that if we give him the contract he desires he may have a 'healthy' season again. Just throwing it out there.

Flame away.

I think he's actually in his prime right now. 29 isn't that old for the type of receiver that Boldin is. I wouldn't give up more than a 3rd, but I'd give up our 3rd for him. He's been hurt and I was actually talking about that in another thread. But the guy is worth a 3rd. Let him heal up from that hamstring injury, and I expect him to have a good year.

No.

Jerry Jones had a hard on for Williams since his UT days. He wanted him and was willing to give up whatever to get him. The 1st, 3rd and 5th that he gave up for him was insane though. However, that doesn't mean that just because Jerry Jones loved a guy that every team in the league will do the same.

Conversely, nobody, and I mean nobody, has a hard on for a guy who is one infraction away from a massive suspension because he likes to beat up women and, perhaps more importantly, is also an immature team cancer that thinks he's better than the team itself.

Mile High is high as he continues to think that any team in the league will give up a first rounder for Marshall.

Not a chance --that 3rd rd pick in this draft is like a mid 2nd in most other years.
Spend the money on wilfolk

he wasn't listing Alex Magee as a wide receiver, he used Magee's name because he was our 3rd round pick last year.

"would you trade a 3rd round pick for Boldin?"


he was saying that WR Boldin > DE Magee type player in the 3rd round.

Whoops didn't see this thread. Yes i'd trade a 3rd for Boldin, re-sign Chambers and dump Bowe for a 2nd.

Keep dreaming that a team is giving a #1 for Marshall.

Make some sense please for the love of god.

It's a 3rd round pick. It's not a 2nd "in other other years".

Jesus.

And money isn't an issue at all. We have alloted the lowest amount of dollars to players in the entire NFL.

well, that's more games than the average chiefs draft pick plays in anyway, so why not?

How do we know that he will turn around his act if he comes here to get paid?

Keep in mind if you trade for Boldin you'll also have to pay him a new contract.

but but thats not the CP way, we should trade for him, let him play out this year and if he plays well with no injuries we should franchise him and try to work out a long term deal then. RIGHT?

Dude, hes proven. Cassel was not. Whole different scenario.

This

ROFL, proven to be an injury waiting to happen.

yes i would

I'm not trading for Boldin. He's broken down.

This won't happen anyway, he'll get traded to a contender. I hope we re-sign chambers though

I would have traded a third last year, I'll trade a fourth this year.

Or the donkeys...

Absolutely. Other than Charles, we haven't had a lot of luck in the draft lately, and especially in the middle rounds. He's a proven commodity, if only for a couple more seasons. Give Cassel some help and sign him.

Just like we should defer to Pioli about Cassel? After all, our GM knows him best, so if he wants to pull the trigger, we know the dude is legit.

Um, yeah, **** that.

Until they prove otherwise, all our head guys have demonstrated is that they're dumb as ****.

Yes, because when he decided AZ was screwing him, he started missing games due to injury. Hmmm, conincedence?

Huh?

If you perform proper due-diligence, luck isn't a factor.

Pissing away draft choices for broken down players with limited playing time is how this team became so talent depleted in the first place.

Yes. This is exactly how we should acquire skill players. Still sticking to my, "draft big uglies" and get skill players thru FA.

Free agency doesn't exist this year.

And btw, that's a horrible plan.

I agree. Since the best skill players are generally available through FA. That's where you're going to get the most talent with the most upside.

It's MUCH harder to fill positions like guard and center through FA, so that's why we have to use the draft.

That exact situation is what happened the last time we won a playoff game (Marcus Allen/Montana.)

How is Boldin broken down? He played 15 games this year and would be the best WR on this team. Trade for him and dump Bowe. The Chiefs would have 3 2nd round picks.

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No.

Dude, if he can be replaced by Early Doucet, a second rounder from a few years back, the Chiefs can most certainly find a similar receiver with either 2a or 2b in the upcoming draft.

I'd rather have a guy that's 21 to 23 years old as opposed to a 29 year-old that's had injury issues.

And while he may have started 15 games this past season, he didn't finish 15 games AND he sat out of the playoffs.

He'll be 30 in October and won't have Kurt Warner throwing passes to him in Kansas City.