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wutamess 02-15-2010 10:10 PM

OMG: 1000 posts here I come...
 
This is an excellent 47 minute long video. It's based off the older brown eyed blue eyed documentary done in the 60's.

Basically it goes to show people how we (black people) feel like we have to "play the game" to get by.

Of course YOU aren't the one's that enslaved us etc, and YOU may not be a racist but this is an excellent way to see how disadvantaged and how many obstacles we have when it comes to succeeding in life.

Here's the vid.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=G6E0188O

Please watch it with an open mind and maybe see that we kinda have a point to feel that way instead of trying to defend how you're treated as we are.

petegz28 02-15-2010 10:14 PM

you people????

/jk

milkman 02-15-2010 10:16 PM

47 minutes?

Are you ****ing crazy?

ChiTown 02-15-2010 10:18 PM

ROFL

Pass.

MoreLemonPledge 02-15-2010 10:20 PM

TL;DW

wutamess 02-15-2010 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6535334)
47 minutes?

Are you ****ing crazy?

It's a short 47 mins... I was hoping it was longer as its ends really quick.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6535304)
This is an excellent 47 minute long video. It's based off the older brown eyed blue eyed documentary done in the 60's.

Basically it goes to show you people how we (black people) feel like we have to "play the game" to get by.

Of course YOU aren't the one's that enslaved us etc, and YOU may not be a racist but this is an excellent way to see how disadvantaged we are when ti comes to succeeding in certain situations.

Here's the vid.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=G6E0188O

Please watch ti with an open mind that we kinda have a point to feel that way instead of trying to defend how you're treated as we are.

I'm gonna watch it Rog. I'll let you know what I think. You're a pretty even keeled guy that is willing to look at the situation from every side. You're perfect for this type of conversation.

Bugeater 02-15-2010 10:26 PM

If this thread reaches 1,000 posts, it's going to be because 995 of the posts are saying this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6535334)
47 minutes?

Are you ****ing crazy?


wutamess 02-15-2010 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6535377)
If this thread reaches 1,000 posts, it's going to be because 995 of the posts are saying this:

The few that will actually take the time and watch will love it and those few will make it 1000...
IT'S THAT GOOD!

Waaaaait foooooor it...

Phobia 02-15-2010 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 6535377)
If this thread reaches 1,000 posts, it's going to be because 995 of the posts are saying this:

Heh. Excellent take.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-15-2010 10:39 PM

No way this makes it to 1K without invoking White Man's Burden.

Ebolapox 02-15-2010 10:44 PM

yeah, I'll watch it eventually (if I don't get caught up by my short attention span)

wutamess 02-15-2010 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 6535423)
yeah, I'll watch it eventually (if I don't get caught up by my short attention span)

It's a really good watch... your attention is kept from start to finsih. I was going to have it playing in the background while I surf with other tabs but I couldn't do it. It's that good.

Rain Man 02-15-2010 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6535409)
No way this makes it to 1K without invoking White Man's Burden.


11 posts, to be exact.


I read an article about this, I bet. Is this the teacher somewhere in the south who divided up her students? Interesting stuff, and shows how dangerous children can be.

wutamess 02-15-2010 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6535447)
11 posts, to be exact.


I read an article about this, I bet. Is this the teacher somewhere in the south who divided up her students? Interesting stuff, and shows how dangerous children can be.

Yeah but it's done in a 2009 Britain setting with grown ups.

Rain Man 02-15-2010 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6535450)
Yeah but it's done in a 2009 Britain setting with grown ups.


Ah, okay.

If I can carve out an extra 49 minutes (bathroom break in the middle), I'll watch it.

Phobia 02-15-2010 11:10 PM

I'm not watching it. Those people want my credit card to watch stuff on their site. I value race relations but I'm not giving my credit card number out for one of those "we won't charge it as long as you cancel your trial membership" scams.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 11:15 PM

This is outstanding so far. I'm about 16 minutes in. It's really just getting started.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-15-2010 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 6535479)
I'm not watching it. Those people want my credit card to watch stuff on their site. I value race relations but I'm not giving my credit card number out for one of those "we won't charge it as long as you cancel your trial membership" scams.

I didn't have to sign up for anything. The first time I clicked it they tried. But I closed it and tried again and it just started right up.

Bi_polar 02-15-2010 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6535409)
No way this makes it to 1K without invoking White Man's Burden.

and it ain't white-boy day.

wutamess 02-15-2010 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 6535479)
I'm not watching it. Those people want my credit card to watch stuff on their site. I value race relations but I'm not giving my credit card number out for one of those "we won't charge it as long as you cancel your trial membership" scams.

Phil's stealing his neighbors wireless connection and he has Antivirus 2009 (malware which tricks you into thinking you have a virus so you can purchase their product) on it which redirects all his links.

Bearcat 02-15-2010 11:55 PM

I've watched 5 minutes and all I can say is that I'm brown and I'm okay with this....

Mr. Flopnuts 02-16-2010 12:00 AM

That was great. I loved the angle that she took. I was more than a little surprised at just how things broke down between the "groups". People should definitely take the time to watch it.

wutamess 02-16-2010 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 6535590)
That was great. I loved the angle that she took. I was more than a little surprised at just how things broke down between the "groups". People should definitely take the time to watch it.

What pissed me off was the traitor. I wanted to see the results in their entirety as the experiment was intended.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-16-2010 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6535594)
What pissed me off was the traitor. I wanted to see the results in their entirety as the experiment was intended.

Yeah. It was interesting watching her rationalization to it as well. She was crying for ****'s sake. Why? 2 hours of someone's life, and it's that ****ing dramatic to you? Privileged ****s. Boo hoo.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-16-2010 12:07 AM

There was almost this attitude of "Why should we have to go through this for one second?"

HELLO?!?!?!?!?!? Try 400 ****ing years.

KC native 02-16-2010 12:08 AM

good video but i bet it barely musters 500. The video is too long for those with the attention span of a gnat.

wutamess 02-16-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 6535603)
good video but i bet it barely musters 500. The video is took long for those with the attention span of a gnat.

I got faith in 1000.
Once Mic gets on here and argues with everyone about social inequalities and then the burdened white men argue that they're in the same boat as us as they've personally never done anything to us (while still not getting IT) and they think affirmative Action is reversed racism yada yada yada this'll reach 1k post in no time.

Phobia 02-16-2010 12:25 AM

Affirmative Action isn't reverse racism - it's guilty white guy trying to force change upon white America. You can't FORCE anybody to change their minds any more than you can force them to stop smoking. They make the choice. They open their minds.

Tylerthigpen!1! 02-16-2010 12:47 AM

grrr. It's saying i have already watched 72 minutes of video. Guess that's what I get with community internet. Anybody want to give me a tldw?

stumppy 02-16-2010 12:58 AM

All I'm getting is the Megavideo site with a button that says 'Push to Play" it links to another site.



You haven't started your own internet porn site and are just trying to increase traffic are you mess ?

wutamess 02-16-2010 01:03 AM

push play once and it brings up a popup.
Close the popup and push play again it'll then load the vid for you.
Not my doing.

MikeMaslowski 02-16-2010 01:04 AM

Here, I can get you a thousand posts.

****Extremely NSFW*****

Video Link Removed upon request.


My wife would shank me.

wutamess 02-16-2010 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6535665)
Here, I can get you a thousand posts.

****Extremely NSFW*****

My wife would shank me.

Thanks for the assist But that vid really has no place here. Please remove it.

Phobia 02-16-2010 01:16 AM

It's a really well-meaning video, wutamess. I want to know what you people are going to do about it.

teedubya 02-16-2010 01:22 AM

...some of my best friends are black.

TrickyNicky 02-16-2010 01:57 AM

To be honest, I was expecting a kumbyeya ending or revelation. Still an interesting experiment in human nature.

You should also check out info on the Stanford prison experiment.

Abba-Dabba 02-16-2010 03:05 AM

I think her "experiment" is slightly outdated and rudimentary that fails to address the nuances of why people of all racial backgrounds are, or are not racist. To this woman you're either a racist, or a racist. There was no either-or proposition. There were no gray areas. And with the failures to address that I think her lesson is somewhat lacking.

Having said that, I completely agree with her unapologetic stance she takes on racism in society.

TrickyNicky 02-16-2010 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saggysack (Post 6535712)
I think her "experiment" is slightly outdated and rudimentary that fails to address the nuances of why people of all racial backgrounds are, or are not racist. To this woman you're either a racist, or a racist. There was no either-or proposition. There were no gray areas. And with the failures to address that I think her lesson is somewhat lacking.

Having said that, I completely agree with her unapologetic stance she takes on racism in society.

I see what you're getting at. You're a racist.

Over-Head 02-16-2010 03:10 AM

Thread lost it's burst at 39 posts :shake:

Abba-Dabba 02-16-2010 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrickyNicky (Post 6535714)
I see what you're getting at. You're a racist.

But I didn't have a choice. I didn't ask to be born white.

stumppy 02-16-2010 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saggysack (Post 6535719)
But I didn't have a choice. I didn't ask to be born white.


Same ole same ole with you people. These excuses are getting pretty tired.

tyton75 02-16-2010 06:30 AM

Roger, you crack me up you racist MF'er :)

phisherman 02-16-2010 06:35 AM

geez roger...

RJ 02-16-2010 07:32 AM

I don't have an extra hour to watch the video, but I thought I'd contribute to Roger's goal of 1K posts. It's the least I can do, which is my usual contribution.

Kerberos 02-16-2010 08:00 AM

Just got done watching it.

That was pretty informative.

Lady has a strong statement for everyone out there that thinks they know how anyone on a different side of the fence feels.

Kerberos 02-16-2010 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saggysack (Post 6535719)
But I didn't have a choice. I didn't ask to be born white.

Affirmative Action made the choice for you no matter whether you were qualified to be white or not.

Duck Dog 02-16-2010 08:05 AM

Quote:

Of course YOU aren't the one's that enslaved us etc
You were enslaved?

wild1 02-16-2010 08:26 AM

I'm going to have to charge you the normal hourly rate if you want 47 minutes of my time.

InChiefsHeaven 02-16-2010 09:28 AM

I watched this in Psychology class in 10th grade...in 1986. I believe it was on Oprah, as I recall. 20+ years later, it's still an interesting experiment.

I used to be quite the long hair back in the late 80's and early 90's. Went into a convenient store up in North Omaha, which is the "black" area of town. Talk about getting the stare down and the cold shoulder. All I wanted was a pack of smokes, and the dude behind the counter would barely acknowledge my existence.

A few years ago, I went to take my son in to get a haircut. There was a new place that opened called the Scraggly Head. Me being the stupid white guy that I am, I guess it's a reference to a black person's haircut or something. In any case, I walk in there and there is the barber cutting one kid's hair while the rest of the guys (about 4 or 5) are just sitting around bs-ing. I sat down and waited. After noticing that the dude was not really even cutting this kids hair (he was pretty much shaved head and he was cutting some lines on the side) I realized that this dude had no intention of serving us. Finally I got up and said I couldn't wait any longer. He apologized for being so "busy".

Just a glimpse into what it must be like for black people in certain situations.

Duck Dog 02-16-2010 09:44 AM

Yeah, one time my buddy and I were driving in downtown KCMO, bar hoping because we were underage and could get into any city bar. Anyway, I got pulled over by a KCMO cop in my Trans Am. He told us to get our Johnson County ass's back to OP.

Sometimes you find yourself in places or circumstances in which you just don't belong.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saggysack (Post 6535712)
I think her "experiment" is slightly outdated and rudimentary that fails to address the nuances of why people of all racial backgrounds are, or are not racist. To this woman you're either a racist, or a racist. There was no either-or proposition. There were no gray areas. And with the failures to address that I think her lesson is somewhat lacking.

Having said that, I completely agree with her unapologetic stance she takes on racism in society.

I think you're still missing the point. She gave you a first hand look at how we have to go through our ENTIRE LIFE with a disadvantage from birth because of our skin color. It doesn't matter if YOU personally are a racist...

The society we live in is racist to an extent which makes it harder for minorities to thrive. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but the way the system is already in place it's a breeding ground for failure for minorities.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 6535720)
Same ole same ole with you people. These excuses are getting pretty tired.

Did you even watch the video... if you can't understand what we go through after watching that video you're just as clueless as the teacher that tried to compare her white husband to the black father that wouldn't pick his daughter up in the all white school because it'd be used against her.

Dave Lane 02-16-2010 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 6535619)
Affirmative Action isn't reverse racism - it's guilty white guy trying to force change upon white America. You can't FORCE anybody to change their minds any more than you can force them to stop smoking. They make the choice. They open their minds.

No its giving a person that is disadvantaged a chance to escape those circumstances.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Dog (Post 6535772)
You were enslaved?

If you're not going to watch the video and be ignorant about it then why make stupid comments? In a sense, if we're still prejudged, held back and still have to fight to be equal I guess we're still enslaved to a different extent.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 6535677)
It's a really well-meaning video, wutamess. I want to know what you people are going to do about it.

Are you really serious? The teacher asked the same thing and it was decided that that was her defense mechanism to try to pin the problem on us when we haven't created the problem.

phisherman 02-16-2010 10:15 AM

you confuse me roger. on one hand, you talk about how well things have gone for you in general, and then you turn into the angry brother.

pick a stereotype and stick with it! :) you know you're my buddy either way. and a heck of a disc golfer!

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerberos (Post 6535771)
Affirmative Action made the choice for you no matter whether you were qualified to be white or not.

As I've said before, it's the fairest way to give minorities a fighting chance in an already tilted society ran by white people of power. Not a racist statement... it is what it is.

stumppy 02-16-2010 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6535983)
Did you even watch the video... if you can't understand what we go through after watching that video you're just as clueless as the teacher that tried to compare her white husband to the black father that wouldn't pick his daughter up in the all white school because it'd be used against her.

Chill out man, I was joking around.


Now tell me more about this daughter and what she likes used on...uh, against her.

Dave Lane 02-16-2010 10:19 AM

Its pretty easy to pick out the racists in this thread. Roger you just trying to flush 'em out?

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 6536008)
you confuse me roger. on one hand, you talk about how well things have gone for you in general, and then you turn into the angry brother.

pick a stereotype and stick with it! :) you know you're my buddy either way. and a heck of a disc golfer!

Dude... Things go well for me and countless other minorities... I'm not angry black man. We've had this discussion numerous times on here.

The video is mainly for the people in general that doesn't get a sense of what we actually go through on a daily basis and then try to marginalize our struggles to be considered and treated as equals.

I'm always surrounded by whites and I'm usually the token black guy as there's not many of us in IT period. I have no problem with white people but it doesn't mean that I'm not aware of what I have or other minorities have to do to excel.

It's like this... whites don't have to do near as much as minorities do to get by. We have to jump higher... score better... be light skinned... talk white... etc. It's a game all minorities play.

Not racist... just telling it like it is.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 6536023)
Its pretty easy to pick out the racists in this thread. Roger you just trying to flush 'em out?

Trust me... vailpass and co will be in here shortly. Nothing surprises me anymore in here.

MikeMaslowski 02-16-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536009)
As I've said before, it's the fairest way to give minorities a fighting chance in an already tilted society ran by white people of power. Not a racist statement... it is what it is.

No, AA is outdated and silly. Get a job on your merits and qualifications, it is what it is.

Donger 02-16-2010 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536027)
It's like this... whites don't have to do near as much as minorities do to get by. We have to jump higher... score better... be light skinned... talk white... etc. It's a game all minorities play.

Not racist... just telling it like it is.

Could you provide some real-life examples?

Quesadilla Joe 02-16-2010 10:24 AM

The USA has a black president.

MikeMaslowski 02-16-2010 10:24 AM

Wutamess, it appears that you are just slinging shit to make your goal. I really attempted to take a humorous look at this but you are lost.

blaise 02-16-2010 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536027)
Dude... Things go well for me and countless other minorities... I'm not angry black man. We've had this discussion numerous times on here.

The video is mainly for the people in general that doesn't get a sense of what we actually go through on a daily basis and then try to marginalize our struggles to be considered and treated as equals.

I'm always surrounded by whites and I'm usually the token black guy as there's not many of us in IT period. I have no problem with white people but it doesn't mean that I'm not aware of what I have or other minorities have to do to excel.

It's like this... whites don't have to do near as much as minorities do to get by. We have to jump higher... score better... be light skinned... talk white... etc. It's a game all minorities play.

Not racist... just telling it like it is.

Pardon the pun, but that's a pretty black and white way of looking at things. I'm sure there's plenty of black people who grow up with advantages other white people don't.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 6536041)
Could you provide some real-life examples?

I can't order some fuggin chicken at company dinners :cuss:. I don't eat red meat and pork but I don't want to feed into the stereotypes of all we eat is chicken, greens and other soul foods.

I have to tip more to change the perception of black people don't tip.

Like the guy in the video, I have to try my best to bring out whiteness in my voice when talking to be taken seriously.

Like the video subtle differences but they're there.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6536048)
Wutamess, it appears that you are just slinging shit to make your goal. I really attempted to take a humorous look at this but you are lost.

Dude... I don't really care about to 1k posts. I'm telling what we go through. You can either paint us as the victim as the video did or you can try to understand... it's really that simple.

Donger 02-16-2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536058)
I can't order some fuggin chicken at company dinners :cuss:. I don't eat red meat and pork but I don't want to feed into the stereotypes of all we eat is chicken, greens and other soul foods.

I have to tip more to change the perception of black people don't tip.

Like the guy in the video, I have to try my best to bring out whiteness in my voice when talking to be taken seriously.

Like the video subtle differences but they're there.

That's it? Really?

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I won't play basketball or attempt to dance in public.

MikeMaslowski 02-16-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536058)
I can't order some fuggin chicken at company dinners :cuss:. I don't eat red meat and pork but I don't want to feed into the stereotypes of all we eat is chicken, greens and other soul foods.

I have to tip more to change the perception of black people don't tip.

Like the guy in the video, I have to try my best to bring out whiteness in my voice when talking to be taken seriously.

Like the video subtle differences but they're there.


Sounds like you are insecure and blaming it on white people.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 6536056)
Pardon the pun, but that's a pretty black and white way of looking at things. I'm sure there's plenty of black people who grow up with advantages other white people don't.

True as there's exceptions to rules. I wonder what the ratio is?
You're picking the exception not the rule. Great way to look at it. NOT!

Donger 02-16-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536064)
True as there's exceptions to rules. I wonder what the ratio is?
You're picking the exception not the rule. Great way to look at it. NOT!

What would you like us white people to do? Stop breeding so you black people can catch up or something?

Why not look at the exceptions and emulate their success, instead of looking at the norm and complaining about it?

blaise 02-16-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536064)
True as there's exceptions to rules. I wonder what the ratio is?
You're picking the exception not the rule. Great way to look at it. NOT!

"NOT!" Really? Now you're creating the stereotype that you're lame.
You don't seem like you came in here looking for any discussion at all. It seems like you just want people to validate your feelings and if they don't you're getting upset.
Great way to look at it! NOT!

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 6536061)
That's it? Really?

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I won't play basketball or attempt to dance in public.

Did you watch the vid Donger? You of all people wont understand. We've been down this road before.

Donger 02-16-2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536074)
Did you watch the vid Donger? You of all people wont understand. We've been down this road before.

No.

stumppy 02-16-2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536058)
I can't order some fuggin chicken at company dinners :cuss:. I don't eat red meat and pork but I don't want to feed into the stereotypes of all we eat is chicken, greens and other soul foods.

I have to tip more to change the perception of black people don't tip.

Like the guy in the video, I have to try my best to bring out whiteness in my voice when talking to be taken seriously.

Like the video subtle differences but they're there.


Going with my second thought here but I'd much rather associate with someone, be it work or personal related that wasn't trying to be/act like something they are not.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6536063)
Sounds like you are insecure and blaming it on white people.

Sounds like you're being defensive and painting it as our problem.
WATCH THE VIDEO.

Phobia 02-16-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 6536000)
Are you really serious? The teacher asked the same thing and it was decided that that was her defense mechanism to try to pin the problem on us when we haven't created the problem.

Of course not. They went through that exercise on the video.

wutamess 02-16-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 6536077)
Going with my second thought here but I'd much rather associate with someone, be it work or personal related that wasn't trying to be/act like something they are not.

Hmmm... so now you're saying I should tell my coworkers I love hip hop and the culture. Not worrying about guilty by association?

You'll never understand.


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