What is Chiefsplanet's take on marijuana?
 

This is purely out of curiosity. I'm just wandering what the majority here think about marijuana.

Do you think it's good or bad for adults to smoke it?

Do you think it's harmful in our society?

Do you think it should be illegal?

If you think it should be kept illegal, what are your reasons for that?

What reasons do you think it is currently illegal for?


poll coming

Do you think it's good or bad for adults to smoke it? No

Do you think it's harmful in our society? Less harmful than alcohol..and that's legal

Do you think it should be illegal? Absolutely not

With that said, I don't understand why people like it so much. I'd rather drink anyday.

Overrated.

I think it can be good and bad for adults to smoke it.

I do not think it's harmful to our society under any circumstances.

It should positively be legal, regulated, and taxed.

It is illegal because we are a bunch of hypocrites.

i would rather smoke than drink
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to each his own :shrug:

legalize it and tax it

You and me both brah.

Even if you argue that the drug itself isn't bad (which I disagree with), and I concede the possibility that it has some medicinal value for some issues (though I'm not sure of that), the bigger use of it is as a self-medication for people who are vulnerable and struggling with life to begin with.

I also don't think alcohol should be legal, by the way. Mind-altering substances are negative in the whole.

right now it's a dam export business making the bad guys rich

best way to win the war on drugs is to take the money away.

I'm totally cool with anyone who is for making all mind altering substances illegal. At least you're consistent. I'm assuming you're for making caffeine illegal as well.

you smoke it and you are like...really? This is illegal? I can hear bass lines clearer and I get dizzy if I stand up and get productive, but I don't feel like beating ass if I don't get laid.

Is caffeine mind altering?

i think it should be cheaper, better, and more accessible. there should be age restrictions. they should tax it.
the gateway drug rap is a bad one IMO. if you make it legal then the drug dealers have less of an opportunity to get to the youth. THATS what progresses the use of harder drugs IMO. the dealer says you like that? try this.
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Just came in from the shed.
You tell me how I voted LMAO

Never ever tried it. If I woke up tomorrow and it was legal, I'd probably get around to trying it eventually.

Absolutely, give someone 2 red bulls who has never had caffeine before and see if they act differently. People just don't see the effects because it permeates our society so completely. When I cut out caffeine, I went through some pretty rough withdrawal.

headed there myself. i work hard and abstain ANYTIME IM NEAR THE SHOP OR WOULD HAVE TO GO THERE ANYTIME SOON. BUT it helps to unwind at the end of the day.
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Great song !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwHzs-kmsE

It's the only reason I believe there is a God.

LMAOLMAOLMAO

Sure. You go from all blah to all yeah!

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its not judgement altering.

Don't know. I see your point but...it still feels like "one of these things is not like the other"

I too believe it should be leagalized and tax the living shit out of it.


Get the cost to below the current national average in street value and it should help states and government create some needed revenue.

Technically, anything we put in our body affects our brains. But I don't think caffeine affects our minds, if that makes any sense.

Slightly off topic, but I wonder if we could make everything legal and tax it at the cost to society. Victims would get reimbursed and the government would take a little off the top to cover costs.

Murder? - Go ahead, and you just have to pay the cost of that person's lifetime earnings and value to their family. Government gets another 5 percent or so. And maybe there'd be some savings by not having prisons. Vagrants would be free!

Speeding? Go ahead, and you just have to pay the expected value of accidents to yourself and others, and I guess the cost of stress to other drivers. Since it's so common, non-speeders would get a tax break each year, and speeders would pay extra.

Want to do cocaine? Just pay the expected cost of associated crime, loss of productivity, and rehab. Cocaine users would pay money, their families would get some pain and suffering money, and of course Uncle Sam would get some.


Stealing wouldn't really work.

I was totally being a smart ass. The caffeine comment was a smart ass comment from the start. I would never advocate that regardless of the rest because as Zach said, one of these things is not like the other.

Pot smokers have a weird sense of humor. :D

Well it is classified as a psychoactive drug, so I would think it's safe to say that current academia disagrees with you.

Ah this is so tired.

The only ones concerned with legalizing marijuana are the potheads in the first place. They keep banging that drum and they keep wasting their time.

Drugs are bad....mmmkay?

:LOL:

Um....no. I could care less if I ever smoke marijuana again, but I will always be a vocal proponent for legalization. Aside from the libertarian principles involved, the economic windfall, at least in the short run, would be a boon.

Considering it's been decriminalized to some extent in 13 states in the past 15 years, I don't think that you can say they are "wasting their time", regardless of how you feel about the issue.

I am not so vocal about my thoughts on legalizing pot, while I would like to see it be legalized I don't feel its worth the effort to do any thing about it.

That said, I would ultimately like to see the states to be able to decide and the Fed's Butt the **** out, not only with Drug laws but other laws as well, More power to the states I say

legalizing isnt an option, it sounds good but the reality is it makes the states too much money in arrests and probations, also you think if it were legal it would get any cheaper? hell no if it were taxed i'd expect the price to at least double. you think ppl would quit, hell no they wont, look at cigarettes they tax the shit out of those things but ppl still smoke a pack a day, leave the system alone, dont wage a war on it, just accept it for what it is, an illegal plant

You don't really have a clue what you're talking about.

oh plz tell me, mr bugeater. tell me how it is, i so desprately need approval from you

:p

Well one thing is for certain, it will most definitely not get more expensive.

The real problem is that people focus too much entirely on the legalization of marijuana when they should be focusing on the legalization of hemp instead. Once the feds figure out how to legalize and tax hemp, then marijuana will soon follow.

Hemp is the most remarkable natural plant in the world. It can be made into clothing, food, apparel, paper, toiletries, and scores of other things we take for granted. Hemp also matures in 4 months. This means a farmer gets 3 yields per year. This in turn means a farmer will make, at the very least, 3 times as much money over the typical annual yield such as wheat, corn, or soy.

There are over 100 different varieties of hemp of which only a mere few have a THC level to get a person high. Legalize all the non-toxic hemp and the toxic hemp will then follow suit.

Stop trying to make marijuana legal. It's like saying I have the right to drive drunk. Focus on what is good about the plant first, and then the rest will follow.

I believe that the roots of marijuana's status as a controlled substance is based in the history of hemp (Hearst Publishing) and the pharmaceutical industries desire to keep us buying their stuff instead.

People who have never tried it shouldn't have an opinion on it IMO... It's also my opinion that certain idiots who use it shouldn't have an opinion on it either because they give it a bad name for those who use it in a positive way: to work, create, and explore their spirituality without incident. Alcohol is a much more dangerous and destructive substance.

This makes some sense to me, if the plant had another reason to be legal other than just getting someone high, then congress might feel more obligated to act on it

http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.c...ur_opinion.jpg IMO

You've never had an opinion on something you haven't tried?

Riiiiight...

The dude abides. haha Mind if I do a J?

I'm just saying when it comes to weed, people take a pretty harsh stance like it's the devil or something when they have no frame of reference.

Agreed.

They're mostly too drunk to think clearly.

Ehhhh, disagree. Without mind-altering substances we wouldn't have all this great music to listen to. :D

So: anyone who hasn't tried it OR anyone who *has* tried it but didn't have a similar experience to yours -- pretty much out of luck on having an opinion on it, eh?...

haha not to mention unwritten influences on science and technology.

horrible, horrible drug that controls your mind and makes you do terrivble perverse things that could send you to jail for humiliating young women

Or great TV shows.

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Jeebus, for the love of God then, please stop smoking it and get some help.

:D

listen cosmic, ive seen fine upstanding gentle men take a puff or two and then proceed to make a mockery of the entire justice system. never smoke hashish in a bar full of rednecks and perverts thats all im gonna say

LMAOLMAOLMAO

ding! this is precisely it.


And... Rain Man is now the most UNCOOL member on CP, btw. LMAO

Mmmmm...Hashish!

Haven't had that in a long time.

First part, Yes. lol, Second part... I can only judge MY experiences. Maybe I just know too many awesome, intelligent, and creative people who partake in it and I'm jaded? Everyone can and will have an opinion on it, it's just my opinion that not everyone should. ;)

Should be legal and people should be responsible for how they handle it. It's really not my thing, but I don't care much if others do it. Although, as a sort of contradiction on my part, I have a lot less respect for people who are dependent on that sort of thing. (Keep in mind, I actually think less of people who are addicted to caffeine, too.)

You mean people that smoke pot are the ones that want it legalized?!?!

Tell me that ain't so!!!!!

You shun people because of their addiction to caffeine? WTF?

You do realize that addiction is not a choice. It might be someone's choice to have a cup of coffee in the morning, but they did not choose to end up drinking four cups of coffee every morning a few years later.

How could you possibly shun someone with addiction to caffeine. I mean they aren't the ones going home with ugly women after spending a few hours at the cafe'

Really always hated weed myself. No fun. Bad drug to me. It should be legal IMO, but is at least to some degree a gateway drug like even alcohol CAN be. The one really annoying thing is that there is so much denial involved from people who smoke from the time they get up right back up to bedtime. It does also cause families problems and such like any other mind altering substance. Until alcohol is not legal, there is no way you shouldn't be able to buy pot. I don't think alcohol should be illegal at all just to be clear.

Yeah, they did.

Ignorance must be bliss.

Shun? Where did I say "shun?" I said I think less of them- which I do. Addiction implies weakness, an inability to control oneself. I think less of all addicts.

one thing to keep in mind is that marijuana has been around for 1,000's of years. But it has only been around in the USA for about 100 years.

:spock:

I think you should be a little more forgiving of those who endure addictions.

Addiction is a chronic, but treatable, brain disorder. People who are addicted cannot control their need for alcohol or other drugs, even in the face of negative health, social or legal consequences. This lack of control is the result of alcohol- or drug-induced changes in the brain. Those changes, in turn, cause behavior changes.

I'm sure there are many non-smokers in the crime/violence-infested towns on both sides of the Mexico/US border who might be relieved if people were allowed to grow their own plants here and somewhat hedge the demand for it. :shrug:

Not true. We waste vast amounts of resources on eradication, incarceration, and post-incarceration monitoring (probation/parole) that could best be used to round up violent criminals and thieves.

one of the better points.

and on that note...I'm out for the night.

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I've pretty much always been the uncoolest member on CP, to be honest. It's just harder to tell if you can't see me.

It has been around since God created it :D

Another point to make is do we want our tax dollars spent enforcing, regulating and criminalizing a drug that is pretty much harmless?

Well, it is the first fabric known to man. Hemp has been used around the world for thousands of years. Sometime around 7000 - 8000 BCE, the first fabric is believed to have been woven from dried hemp weed.

Around 6000 BCE hemp seeds were used as food in China. By 2727 BCE, the Chinese documented the use of cannabis as a medication to treat a variety of health problems. They later grew the plant on a large scale for food and fiber.

In 1492, Christopher Columbus brought Cannibis Sativa to America.

At Mount Vernon, George Washington grew hemp as his primary crop in 1797. Thomas Jefferson grew hemp as a secondary crop at Monticello.

How does having pot illegal make the states money? Doesn't It costs the states money to arrests someone and put them in prison?

I"m in. Make MJ legal and tax it. And as far as taste will I prefer ingestion as opposed to smoking.

The more people you put in prisons, the more prisons that need to be built = $$$

Prisons also provide jobs = $$$

Prisoners are telemarketers, manufacturers, etc. = $$$

Sure, it costs the states gobs of money to go after criminals, but prisons are also machines of $$$