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luv 03-10-2010 08:13 PM

A friend texted me with a rumor he'd heard on the radio this morning
 
He said that they were talking about possibly trading Cassel to the Browns for Quinn. Any truth in that, or do you think he heard it out of context (like he missed the first part of a conversation of "not likely's")? If it were true, what would you think of such a trade? Or has this been talked about already, and I'm posting something that's been talked into the ground?

LetsSignRussell 03-10-2010 08:14 PM

drugs are bad

|Zach| 03-10-2010 08:14 PM

Yea. No way.

Saulbadguy 03-10-2010 08:15 PM

Was it San Francisco Sports radio with Mark Gubicza?

DaneMcCloud 03-10-2010 08:15 PM

Yes, I've heard that rumor.

:D

luv 03-10-2010 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 6594286)
Was it San Francisco Sports radio with Mark Gubicza?

No clue. He listens to sports radio in the morning, but I don't know which one. I hadn't seen anything about it here, so I figured it was either a joke or not true.

notorious 03-10-2010 08:19 PM

What about Quinn to swap 1st's?



No way we would do it, but it might be in the realm of possiblity.

Bane 03-10-2010 08:20 PM

We'd never get that lucky.Not that I'm a Quinn fan but I'd give Cassel to just about any team and pay half of his salary to purge his SUCk from KC.It would be worth it to start a rebuild job the way you're supposed to.

jjchieffan 03-10-2010 08:21 PM

I heard it was Croyle that Cleveland was interested in.

Mecca 03-10-2010 08:22 PM

Any option not named Matt Cassel is ok with me at this point.

Hammock Parties 03-10-2010 08:22 PM

If they trade for Quinn they better draft a quarterback.

Bane 03-10-2010 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 6594311)
I heard it was Croyle that Cleveland was interested in.

Then they're smarter than Pisoli.:cuss:

Mecca 03-10-2010 08:26 PM

I think the odds of the Chiefs drafting a QB are slim and none.

DaneMcCloud 03-10-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 6594311)
I heard it was Croyle that Cleveland was interested in.

That doesn't make much sense.

Croyle to Buffalo makes MUCH more sense.

salame 03-10-2010 08:31 PM

I really liked Quinn and it makes me sad to watch him suck

TheGuardian 03-10-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6594329)
I think the odds of the Chiefs drafting a QB are slim and none.

something we agree on. Some people here just don't f'n get it.

Toad 03-10-2010 08:45 PM

I hope we don't have interest in trading one very average QB for another.

The Browns may cut Quin lose anyway. If Wies wants him, we can prolly get him w/o giving anything up.

If we are going to throw crazy trades out there, why not trade our #5 for thier #7 and Shaun Rogers?

DaneMcCloud 03-10-2010 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad (Post 6594372)
I hope we don't have interest in trading one very average QB for another.

The Browns may cut Quin lose anyway. If Wies wants him, we can prolly get him w/o giving anything up.

If we are going to throw crazy trades out there, why not trade our #5 for thier #7 and Shaun Rogers?

There is absolutely NO chance that Mike Holmgren released Quinn outright.

He'll be traded.

ClevelandBronco 03-10-2010 08:50 PM

You could try explaining a trade like this to me all day long and I still wouldn't understand.

Titty Meat 03-10-2010 08:51 PM

Looks like this trading isn't going to happen. ****.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-10-2010 09:07 PM

This would be a stupid decision by our management and I don't have any confidence in Cassel.

Deberg_1990 03-10-2010 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 6594339)
I really liked Quinn and it makes me sad to watch him suck

Charlie Weis?? Is that you??

Red Dawg 03-10-2010 09:27 PM

Rediculous. No way that happens. Scott just traded for him and paid the guy to be the man.

Toad 03-10-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6594384)
There is absolutely NO chance that Mike Holmgren released Quinn outright.

He'll be traded.

Okay, perhaps I overstated. My point is that Quinn's value is simply not good at this point. I wouldn't want to give more than a 6th or 7th for him.

ChiefsCountry 03-10-2010 09:36 PM

We can only hope.

salame 03-10-2010 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6594416)
Charlie Weis?? Is that you??

http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/i...liechalupa.jpg

busted

Nero's Neptune 03-10-2010 09:51 PM

Brodie Croyle is fool's gold. He's got a rocket for an arm and makes every throw in the book.... in practice. That, and he's a great guy to have around. Teammates love him, and terrific backup that supports the starter. Nothing not to like...but he just can't stay healthy if he has to play.

If someone like Buffalo really wants him and is willing to give up a high pick, I say do it.

I don't see it ever happening though. Haley LOVES him some Brodie.

milkman 03-10-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6594313)
Any option not named Matt Cassel is ok with me at this point.

Jake Delhomme is available.

doomy3 03-10-2010 10:10 PM

Quinn has been more inaccurate than Matt Cassel. The obsession with anyone who has been a first round pick at QB is staggering. I would take a chance on Quinn for a late pick or something, but he in no way is an upgrade over Cassel at this point.

DaneMcCloud 03-10-2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6594516)
Quinn has been more inaccurate than Matt Cassel. The obsession with anyone who has been a first round pick at QB is staggering. I would take a chance on Quinn for a late pick or something, but he in no way is an upgrade over Cassel at this point.

Disagree.

He was a starter at Notre Dame and put up good numbers under Weis. He's always in tip top shape and has a much stronger arm that Cassel. He's also younger.

Quinn has been ****ed since the day Cleveland drafted him. He's the classic example of a good QB picked by a bad organization.

He may never be a HOFer but he'll be a much better QB in this league than Matt Cassel's ever dreamed of being, especially if he's reunited with Weis.

Titty Meat 03-10-2010 10:18 PM

Doomy talking out of his ass once again.

DaneMcCloud 03-10-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6594522)
Doomy talking out of his ass once again.

I wasn't aware he even had a mouth

doomy3 03-10-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6594522)
Doomy talking out of his ass once again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6594523)
I wasn't aware he even had a mouth

Yeah, that was necessary, ****tards.

Titty Meat 03-10-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6594523)
I wasn't aware he even had a mouth

How else would he make a living?

doomy3 03-10-2010 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6594521)
Disagree.

He was a starter at Notre Dame and put up good numbers under Weis. He's always in tip top shape and has a much stronger arm that Cassel. He's also younger.

Quinn has been ****ed since the day Cleveland drafted him. He's the classic example of a good QB picked by a bad organization.

He may never be a HOFer but he'll be a much better QB in this league than Matt Cassel's ever dreamed of being, especially if he's reunited with Weis.

I'm not sure if you are just disagreeing with me to disagree with me, or what.

Quinn has been more inaccurate than Cassel thus far. Perhaps it is because he's in a bad situation. I suppose we could make excuses for Cassel as well.

You are right that Quinn is in great shape, but I'm not sure what that has to do with being a successful QB either. Perhaps he does have a stronger arm than Cassel. Since he doesn't do anything but check down though, who knows?

milkman 03-10-2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6594522)
Doomy talking out of his ass once again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6594523)
I wasn't aware he even had a mouth

You may not agree with doomy on this, but to paint him as some dumbass that constantly posts stupid shit is inaccurate.

Titty Meat 03-10-2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6594531)
You may not agree with doomy on this, but to paint him as some dumbass that constantly posts stupid shit is inaccurate.

Go to bed.

milkman 03-10-2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6594534)
Go to bed.

Stay away from my window.

Titty Meat 03-10-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6594537)
Stay away from my window.

I'll remember to take a picture next time.

milkman 03-10-2010 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 6594538)
I'll remember to take a picture next time.

As they say, it lasts longer.

DaneMcCloud 03-10-2010 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6594524)
Yeah, that was necessary, ****tards.

LMAO

You take your shots, I take mine.

:D

DaneMcCloud 03-10-2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6594529)
I'm not sure if you are just disagreeing with me to disagree with me, or what.

Quinn has been more inaccurate than Cassel thus far. Perhaps it is because he's in a bad situation. I suppose we could make excuses for Cassel as well.

You are right that Quinn is in great shape, but I'm not sure what that has to do with being a successful QB either. Perhaps he does have a stronger arm than Cassel. Since he doesn't do anything but check down though, who knows?

If Weis convinced Pioli to trade for Quinn, I'd back that move for at least two seasons.

The bottom line for me is that I trust Weis until proven otherwise when it comes to QB's.

BossChief 03-10-2010 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6594579)
If Weis convinced Pioli to trade for Quinn, I'd back that move for at least two seasons.

The bottom line for me is that I trust Weis until proven otherwise when it comes to QB's.

this

and I dont like Quinn at all.

Ozarks-Chiefs-Fan 03-10-2010 10:52 PM

Yea a buddy of mine called me this morning and asked if i was listening to sports talk (the jock in Springfield, MO. He told me they were talking to the guy from warpaint and he said the rumor was Weiss and Cassel didn't get along and that this trade was a possibility.

I agree with Dane I think Quinn has way more potential than Cassel.

Titty Meat 03-10-2010 10:56 PM

Clayton is stealing info from here for his shitty website?

milkman 03-10-2010 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarks-Chiefs-Fan (Post 6594612)
Yea a buddy of mine called me this morning and asked if i was listening to sports talk (the jock in Springfield, MO. He told me they were talking to the guy from warpaint and he said the rumor was Weiss and Cassel didn't get along and that this trade was a possibility.

I agree with Dane I think Quinn has way more potential than Cassel.

So now we know it's absolute bull.

Ozarks-Chiefs-Fan 03-10-2010 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6594619)
So now we know it's absolute bull.

That's what I thought when he told me that.

Bowser 03-10-2010 11:46 PM

A thought -

If re-uniting Quinn with Weis is a good idea due to the success those two had working with each other, wouldn't it be logical to assume that Cassel could actually improve under Weis' tutelage?

Bwana 03-10-2010 11:50 PM

I think NOT.

RustShack 03-10-2010 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 6594691)
A thought -

If re-uniting Quinn with Weis is a good idea due to the success those two had working with each other, wouldn't it be logical to assume that Cassel could actually improve under Weis' tutelage?

He probably could improve, even though he regressed as the team got better last year. But besides that point, Quinn is young, more talented, and has more upside... he also already have better pocket awareness and mechanics... and his ball is more catchable. Quinn can just offer us more for a longer period of time..

Gonzo 03-11-2010 12:06 AM

Trading a turd sammich for a giant douche?

No thanks.
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KcMizzou 03-11-2010 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 6594691)
A thought -

If re-uniting Quinn with Weis is a good idea due to the success those two had working with each other, wouldn't it be logical to assume that Cassel could actually improve under Weis' tutelage?

Pffft... What are you thinking?

michaelj_58 03-11-2010 03:27 PM

so would they trade quinn for croyle?

JD10367 03-11-2010 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6594521)
He may never be a HOFer but he'll be a much better QB in this league than Matt Cassel's ever dreamed of being, especially if he's reunited with Weis.

In 2008 on a solid team Cassel threw for almost 3700 yards and 21 TDs.

In 2009 on a not-so-solid team Cassel still almost threw for 3000 yards and 16 TDs.

In 2009 on a not-so-solid team Quinn, in 10 games, threw for 1339 yards and 8 TDs. Even if you extrapolate those stats to a full years, it's a whopping 2142 yards and 13 TDs.

Quinn sucks.

Demonpenz 03-11-2010 03:57 PM

who was quinns main target? Mike Furey (of the nile?) it's not like the browns had weapons to get open

T-post Tom 03-11-2010 04:15 PM

Seems a little farfetched to me. Weis is the wild card in this one. What's he think of Quinn and how much influence is he going to have with Pioli/Haley?

The Franchise 03-11-2010 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6596400)
In 2008 on a solid team Cassel threw for almost 3700 yards and 21 TDs.

In 2009 on a not-so-solid team Cassel still almost threw for 3000 yards and 16 TDs.

In 2009 on a not-so-solid team Quinn, in 10 games, threw for 1339 yards and 8 TDs. Even if you extrapolate those stats to a full years, it's a whopping 2142 yards and 13 TDs.

Quinn sucks.

:spock:

Frosty 03-11-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 6596465)
Seems a little farfetched to me. Weis is the wild card in this one. What's he think of Quinn and how much influence is he going to have with Pioli/Haley?

I wonder what Crennel would think about getting Quinn, since failing to develop Quinn helped lead to Crennel getting canned. :doh!:


(yes - I know Crennel is the DC, but he should have a little insight into Quinn as a pro)

Stinger 03-11-2010 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarks-Chiefs-Fan (Post 6594612)
Yea a buddy of mine called me this morning and asked if i was listening to sports talk (the jock in Springfield, MO. He told me they were talking to the guy from warpaint and he said the rumor was Weiss and Cassel didn't get along and that this trade was a possibility.

I agree with Dane I think Quinn has way more potential than Cassel.

Well given that it was on the Sports Reporters on the Jock and being referenced by Warpaint there is no way it happens. If it was Art Hains show I would take with a lot more credibility, but not Ned and Scott.

bevischief 03-11-2010 07:47 PM

We are doomed...


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