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Quesadilla Joe 03-25-2010 02:20 PM

Report: Raiders in hottest pursuit of McNabb
 
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For more than two months, the Eagles played it coy regarding the possibility of trading quarterback Donovan McNabb, hoping for an offer they couldn't refuse.

And then when the offer never came, they needed a Plan B.

Plan B has unfolded far more haphazardly, with coach Andy Reid publicly acknowledging that offers have been made for McNabb and then smoldering rumors of a trade to the Rams becoming a report from Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer that the trade could happened by the end of the week, if not by the end of the day.

(The Rams strongly denied the report, and McLane has since backed off dramatically. But the damage may already have been done. We're hearing that McLane had been hoping to become the new Eagles beat writer for the Inquirer, replacing Bob Brookover, who now covers the Phillies. We're also hearing that the swing and the miss on the McNabb-to-Rams story may have kept that from happening.)

So if the Rams aren't doing a deal, which team will? Jason La Canfora of NFL.com reports that the Raiders are "in heaviest pursuit." Other possibilities are the Bills and Cardinals. (However, one media source with whom we spoke is convinced that Buffalo owner Ralph Wilson would never pay McNabb an eight-figure salary.)

Even though McNabb reportedly prefers Arizona to Buffalo or Oakland, the Raiders have shown that they're not afraid to trade for a reluctant player with only one year left on his contract. They did it last year with defensive end Richard Seymour, who now carries the exclusive level of the franchise tag.

So stay tuned. As explained in the latest edition of PFT Daily, we now think it's just a matter of time before the Eagles move McNabb.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...uit-of-mcnabb/

The Franchise 03-25-2010 02:21 PM

The Raiders with an actual QB....would be interesting.

kepp 03-25-2010 02:22 PM

I don't know about that. What's his 40 time?

DaWolf 03-25-2010 02:36 PM

I fully expect this to happen. Zona isn't going to pay him with the salaries they are giving Leinart and Anderson. Oakland is probably going to give them the best offer...

Bane 03-25-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6632444)

That would put the Donks in very bad shape in the AFCW,so you guys better hope not.Besides you didn't copy and paste that off of twatter so its fukkn bullshit gossip!!!!

Titty Meat 03-25-2010 02:41 PM

McNabb wouldn't be a very good QB with that line.

DMAC 03-25-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6632452)
I don't know about that. What's his 40 time?

ROFL

DaneMcCloud 03-25-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6632450)
The Raiders with an actual QB....would be interesting.

And scary.

Their receivers have a ton of talent and potential. McFadden needs a breakout season and their defense has talent.

With a guy like McNabb running the show, I could see that team winning 10 games in 2010.

Maybe more.

DMAC 03-25-2010 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6632520)
McNabb wouldn't be a very good QB with that line.

He would do just fine.

And the Faid could win the division.

ToxSocks 03-25-2010 02:45 PM

Hrmmm.......McNabb on the Raiders is a bit scary. All the raiders really need is a QB to make them competitive. If this happens, the AFCW is going to be very unpredictable next season.

ToxSocks 03-25-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6632525)
And scary.

Their receivers have a ton of talent and potential. McFadden needs a breakout season and their defense has talent.

With a guy like McNabb running the show, I could see that team winning 10 games in 2010.

Maybe more.

This.

The Franchise 03-25-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6632525)
And scary.

Their receivers have a ton of talent and potential. McFadden needs a breakout season and their defense has talent.

With a guy like McNabb running the show, I could see that team winning 10 games in 2010.

Maybe more.

Yeah....Heyward-Bey would be interesting with McNabb throwing him the ball.

DaneMcCloud 03-25-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6632542)
Yeah....Heyward-Bey would be interesting with McNabb throwing him the ball.

Schillens and Murphy would be downright scary

ToxSocks 03-25-2010 02:50 PM

Maybe McNabb can show JaFatass what a big black QB is suppose to look like.

The Franchise 03-25-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6632547)
Schillens and Murphy would be downright scary

Don't forget Zach Miller.

DaneMcCloud 03-25-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6632554)
Don't forget Zach Miller.

I don't think I like this rumor

Titty Meat 03-25-2010 02:54 PM

I doubt he goes to Oakland.

OnTheWarpath15 03-25-2010 03:00 PM

I'd be curious to find out what the supposed compensation would be.

Even Crazy ****ing Al wouldn't give up the 8th overall pick, and they don't have a R1 next year because of the Seymour trade.

The Franchise 03-25-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6632575)
I'd be curious to find out what the supposed compensation would be.

Even Crazy ****ing Al wouldn't give up the 8th overall pick, and they don't have a R1 next year because of the Seymour trade.

I would assume it's something like their 2nd and 5th.

Gonzo 03-25-2010 03:07 PM

Even though they're division rivals, I'm surprised the redskins haven't made an offer. Who's their qb now, anyway? Is it still Campbell?
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Hog's Gone Fishin 03-25-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6632560)
I doubt he goes to Oakland.

I have read several times that McNabb will not sign a long term contract with the Raiders.

-King- 03-25-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 6632599)
Even though they're division rivals, I'm surprised the redskins haven't made an offer. Who's their qb now, anyway? Is it still Campbell?
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Why would they? Campbell is very good and if Shanahan doesn't really like him, he can get Clausen in the draft. Campbell doesn't deserve most of the grief and shit he gets. Last year he had the most dysfunctional coaching staff in the NFL, an O-line that was almost never the same week to week, sub par WRs, broken down RBs, and he still put up decent numbers. I'd sure as hell take him over Cassel and most other qbs in the league.

That's also why I think the Redskins won't go for Clausen in the draft. Too many other needs, and QB is not a problem for them.

SDChiefs 03-25-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6632549)
Maybe JaFatass can show McNabb how to get a huge contract all the while sitting on your ass eating potato chips all day and milk Al Davis for four years.

FYP

KCChiefsMan 03-25-2010 03:21 PM

eh

I would be pissed if McNabb got traded to oakland. I hate to say it, but mcnabb could take the faiders to the postseason

OnTheWarpath15 03-25-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 6632653)
eh

I would be pissed if McNabb got traded to oakland. I hate to say it, but mcnabb could take the faiders to the postseason

Hell, had Bruce Gradkowski started the entire season, they could have had a shot.

Splat420 03-25-2010 03:26 PM

The Eagles fans have been trying to run D-Mac out of town since the day they drafted him.

-King- 03-25-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6632662)
Hell, had Bruce Gradkowski started the entire season, they could have had a shot.

If they had drafted Crabtree instead of DHB and started Bruce, their offense would have been pretty good.

Crab, Chaz, Murphy at WR. Bush, McFadden, Fargas at RB. Bruce at QB. Not too bad.

Bane 03-25-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6632662)
Hell, had Bruce Gradkowski started the entire season, they could have had a shot.

Agreed.

Touchdown Bowe 03-25-2010 03:55 PM

Oakland already shipped a 3rd to Cleveland for Wimbley..So if they do aquire McNabb for their 1st or 2nd, they wont have much of a draft class

SDChiefs 03-25-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Touchdown Bowe (Post 6632776)
Oakland already shipped a 3rd to Cleveland for Wimbley..So if they do aquire McNabb for their 1st or 2nd, they wont have much of a draft class

Have you seen their draft classes? Even if they have 13 picks they won't have much of a draft class thanks to good ol' Al.

DaWolf 03-25-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Touchdown Bowe (Post 6632776)
Oakland already shipped a 3rd to Cleveland for Wimbley..So if they do aquire McNabb for their 1st or 2nd, they wont have much of a draft class

That's the price of getting a QB who will play well for the most part but choke at some point.

I'd actually be careful about McNabb, he's had to battle injuries since 2005 IIRC...

Gonzo 03-25-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6632621)
Why would they?


Hello? It's Snyder... Duh?

And Campbell looks quite average to me.
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chiefs1111 03-25-2010 05:00 PM

First rumbles of McNabb-to-Raiders trade terms emerge

Posted by Mike Florio on March 25, 2010 6:37 PM ET
Every once in a while, we develop a tipster who builds a track record of providing tips that end up being true.

And one of our latest tipsters who has been accurate with past tips (for the most part) has now given us a tip regarding the trade terms that possibly would send Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb to the Raiders.

Per the tip -- uncorroborated but nevertheless intriguing -- McNabb and cornerback Asante Samuel would go to Oakland, and cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha would go to Philadelphia.

We don't know whether an offer of this nature has been made. We suspect that the Eagles would, at a minimum, want to replace Samuel with Sheldon Brown.

Anyway, stay tuned. This is all uncorroborated, but we know that our friends in Philly are desperate for information, and that our friends in Oakland are desperate for hope.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-terms-emerge/

DaWolf 03-25-2010 05:01 PM

Rumor is now McNabb and Samuel for Asomunga. Which would be a steal for the Raiders, so I can't believe that's accurate.

warpaint* 03-25-2010 05:02 PM

Dear Jesus,

Please Baby Jesus do not send me to Oakland.

Your friend,

Donovan.

DaneMcCloud 03-25-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6632981)
Rumor is now McNabb and Samuel for Asomunga. Which would be a steal for the Raiders, so I can't believe that's accurate.

Steal? Really?

The Eagles get 28 year old Nnamdi Asomugha, possibly the best cornerback in the league, for an aging QB that's no longer welcome in Philly with one year left on his contract plus Assante Samuel?

I think the Eagles win this one.

chiefs1111 03-25-2010 05:05 PM

Jason La Confora also just said on NFL Network the other team with the most interest is the Bills

The Franchise 03-25-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6632987)
Steal? Really?

The Eagles get 28 year old Nnamdi Asomugha, possibly the best cornerback in the league, for an aging QB that's no longer welcome in Philly with one year left on his contract plus Assante Samuel?

I think the Eagles win this one.

If I'm the Eagles.....I'll take a 4th or 5th round pick as well.

DaneMcCloud 03-25-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6632993)
If I'm the Eagles.....I'll take a 4th or 5th round pick as well.

Yeah, definitely

The Franchise 03-25-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6632996)
Yeah, definitely

Honestly....I don't know if they'd go for it....but I'd give up McNabb, Sheldon Brown and a 5th round pick for Nnamdi Asomugha.

RNR 03-25-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6632987)
Steal? Really?

The Eagles get 28 year old Nnamdi Asomugha, possibly the best cornerback in the league, for an aging QB that's no longer welcome in Philly with one year left on his contract plus Assante Samuel?

I think the Eagles win this one.

I disagree Asomugha set his contract up so he can bail with Oakland getting nothing when his contract is up. They need to move him for somthing while they can IMO~

DeezNutz 03-25-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6632981)
Rumor is now McNabb and Samuel for Asomunga. Which would be a steal for the Raiders, so I can't believe that's accurate.

This is the rare example of a trade that would be pretty good for both teams.

Ultimately, Philly wins this deal, but Oakland gets a 2-3 window to put together a couple of legit runs.

pkane 03-25-2010 08:22 PM

I expect McNabb will be an Eagle this year.

DaneMcCloud 03-25-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6633365)
I disagree Asomugha set his contract up so he can bail with Oakland getting nothing when his contract is up. They need to move him for somthing while they can IMO~

Well, it's a win-win for Asomugha and a lose-lose for Oakland.

Asomugha wants out of Oakland. Whether it's this year via trade or next year via free agency, he's gone.

McNabb has one year left on his contract and isn't likely to return to Philly after 2010. He'll hold the Raiders hostage or walk.

So either way, the Raiders are looking at two players holding them hostage. McNabb needs a job and is 34 years old. Asomugha is 28 years old and would be closer to his home in the South. He'd also be closer to a major media market (New York) and as sharp as he is, he's likely to move to broadcasting after he retires.

The bottom line is that the Raiders could make the trade and still only have McNabb for a year AND lose maybe the best cornerback in the game.

Fritz88 03-25-2010 08:34 PM

no ****er on this board realizes the potential of J Russell. **** you all.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-25-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6632987)
Steal? Really?

The Eagles get 28 year old Nnamdi Asomugha, possibly the best cornerback in the league, for an aging QB that's no longer welcome in Philly with one year left on his contract plus Assante Samuel?

I think the Eagles win this one.

Yep. And the Chiefs lose.

pkane 03-25-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 6633560)
no ****er on this board realizes the potential of J Russell. **** you all.

ROFL

RNR 03-25-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6633529)
Well, it's a win-win for Asomugha and a lose-lose for Oakland.

Asomugha wants out of Oakland. Whether it's this year via trade or next year via free agency, he's gone.

McNabb has one year left on his contract and isn't likely to return to Philly after 2010. He'll hold the Raiders hostage or walk.

So either way, the Raiders are looking at two players holding them hostage. McNabb needs a job and is 34 years old. Asomugha is 28 years old and would be closer to his home in the South. He'd also be closer to a major media market (New York) and as sharp as he is, he's likely to move to broadcasting after he retires.

The bottom line is that the Raiders could make the trade and still only have McNabb for a year AND lose maybe the best cornerback in the game.

With the situation as it is it looks like a win for Oakland IMO McNabb has plenty of ball left in him as in 4 to 5 years and with the sack of shit Russell redefining the term bust Davis will blow McNabb to keep him. Not a bad deal considering the train wreck the Raiders have become~

DeezNutz 03-25-2010 08:49 PM

Asking for 4-5 more (high-quality) years from McNabb is dreaming, IMO.

2-3. Feel fortunate if it's the latter. The dude is going to be 34, for crying out loud.

DaneMcCloud 03-25-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6633608)
With the situation as it is it looks like a win for Oakland IMO McNabb has plenty of ball left in him as in 4 to 5 years and with the sack of shit Russell redefining the term bust Davis will blow McNabb to keep him. Not a bad deal considering the train wreck the Raiders have become~

I think you would be lucky to get two solid years out of McNabb. He's 34 and had some serious injuries in the past few years.

Asomugha OTOH, is only 28 years old and should be a solid CB for a least two more years (if not more), then you move him to safety.

It's a bad deal for the Raiders.

TheGuardian 03-25-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6633613)
Asking for 4-5 more (high-quality) years from McNabb is dreaming, IMO.

2-3. Feel fortunate if it's the latter. The dude is going to be 34, for crying out loud.

Right. The Raiders MIGHT get 2 years out of him. It's not like they are Minnesota and have a lot of good pieces in place and just need a QB. Man that franchise is a mess of shit.

RNR 03-25-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6633625)
I think you would be lucky to get two solid years out of McNabb. He's 34 and had some serious injuries in the past few years.

Asomugha OTOH, is only 28 years old and should be a solid CB for a least two more years (if not more), then you move him to safety.

It's a bad deal for the Raiders.

You are missing my point. They are going to lose him anyway. For a team to make all the mistakes the Raiders have made to get in this situation this is as good of outcome as they could hope for~

DaneMcCloud 03-25-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6633652)
You are missing my point. They are going to lose him anyway. For a team to make all the mistakes the Raiders have made to get in this situation this is as good of outcome as they could hope for~

Well if that's the point, I most certainly missed it!

:D

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-25-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6633652)
You are missing my point. They are going to lose him anyway. For a team to make all the mistakes the Raiders have made to get in this situation this is as good of outcome as they could hope for~

If you lose him, what exactly do you HAVE on that team? :D

Quesadilla Joe 03-25-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6633613)
Asking for 4-5 more (high-quality) years from McNabb is dreaming, IMO.

2-3. Feel fortunate if it's the latter. The dude is going to be 34, for crying out loud.

And he was a scrambler early in his career and has a long injury history for a QB.

Quesadilla Joe 03-25-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUCANTKILLROR (Post 6633684)
If you lose him, what exactly do you HAVE on that team? :D

They still have that kicker they drafted in the first round :)

LaChapelle 03-25-2010 10:11 PM

Report: Eagles want a top 42 pick for McNabb

Posted by Mike Florio on March 25, 2010 8:37 PM ET

As further proof that a trade of Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb has become inevitable, the Associated Press reports that the team will consider only an offer than includes a pick among the top 42 in the 2010 draft.

It's unclear why or how 42 became the cutoff point, especially since the 42nd selection, held by the Buccaneers, falls 10 picks into round two.

Under the official draft order, the Bills own the 41st pick, the Raiders have the 39th selection, the Browns hold the 38th pick, and the Redskins possess the 37th pick. (We'd be shocked if the Eagles would be willing to trade McNabb within the division, and there's no indication that the Redskins would want him. But, you know, Jason Campbell and Rex Grossman.)

It previously was believed that the Eagles wanted at least a first-round pick, possibly more. But with no one offering a first-round pick three weeks into the 2010 league year, the Eagles have had to relax their expectations.

Now that the cat is fully out of the bag, the Eagles might have to relax their expectations even further.

Chiefshrink 03-25-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6632525)
And scary.

Their receivers have a ton of talent and potential. McFadden needs a breakout season and their defense has talent.

With a guy like McNabb running the show, I could see that team winning 10 games in 2010.

Maybe more.

Everything you say here is true except 1 major problem Al Davis-need I say more? Al has not kept up with the game and it shows. The only time Al let go of the reins was when Gruden was coach and the Raiders were successful but Al's ego couldn't handle it so he f's his whole team by trading Gruden to Tampa which was an indirect firing. As long as Al still lives in the past trying to force a square peg in a round hole i.e.not keeping up with NFL game he will continue "f"ing up an NFL wet dream".

McNabb will put a huge damper on the end of a pretty good career if he goes to the Raiders IMO.

doomy3 03-25-2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6632987)
Steal? Really?

The Eagles get 28 year old Nnamdi Asomugha, possibly the best cornerback in the league, for an aging QB that's no longer welcome in Philly with one year left on his contract plus Assante Samuel?

I think the Eagles win this one.

By a land slide. I think McNabb makes the Eagles better this year than Kolb, but getting Nnamdi for McNabb would be pretty awesome for the Eagles, since they have Kolb waiting in the wings.

Dylan 03-26-2010 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6632981)
Rumor is now McNabb and Samuel for Asomunga. Which would be a steal for the Raiders, so I can't believe that's accurate.

I agree, except the Eagles don't make foolish trades. I can see the Eagles trading McNabb for Aso -- But I don't believe for a minute, the Eagles would throw Asante Samuel into the mix. Why? Asante is as good as Aso -- In fact, I think Asante is better. They both were drafted the same year -- Asante prefers playing zone and Aso seems to play man-to-man.

Actually, I would rather have a DB like Asante that averages 7-9 INT a year -- than have a DB, that supposedly QB's avoid throwing near.

When the Giants played Oakland in 2009, they used eight different WRs, and two RBs to beat Oakland 44-7. Honestly, Aso was a non-factor -- Eli did not avoid his side. In fact, Bradshaw and a couple of receivers blew right past him --

Aso could have had an off day. But, if you are the highest paid DB in the NFL, with an annual salary of $16 - $17 million -- you are expected to stop a receiver from catching or advancing the ball. Asante would have had at least one game changing INT ... in my opinion, Aso did not show any signs of being a shut-down corner -- However, I could be totally off base. Anyway, Andy Reid knows that Asante Samuel lately has our number. Why would Reid trade Asante and replace him with a DB the Giants ran all over? Reid is not crazy -- stupid at times? Yes, -- But he's not crazy... (lol j/k)

I don’t know, so I will ask: When was the last time Mike Florio came out with a good scoop?

Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
A. Bradshaw 11 110 2 24
B. Jacobs 21 67 0 12
D. Carr 4 27 1 12
G. Johnson 5 16 0 11

Receiving REC YDS TD LG
S. Smith 3 70 0 43
A. Bradshaw 1 55 0 55
H. Nicks 4 49 1 17
M. Manningham 2 36 1 30
D. Johnson 3 26 0 13
T. Beckum 2 12 0 11
B. Jacobs 1 8 0 8
D. Hagan 1 7 0 7



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February 19, 2009
The Oakland Raiders reached agreement with cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha on a $45.3 million, three-year contract that makes him the highest-paid defensive back in NFL history.

Sources said Asomugha is guaranteed $28.5 million in a complicated deal that features a provision in which the entire contract can be guaranteed if the Raiders decide to keep the 27-year-old for the third season.
Source: ESPN.com

Dylan 03-26-2010 01:19 AM

Anyway, I hope it's true -- In that case, the Giants get the better deal -- Aso.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-26-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6634019)
They still have that kicker they drafted in the first round :)

True enough! :D

KcKing 03-26-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 6634597)
February 19, 2009
The Oakland Raiders reached agreement with cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha on a $45.3 million, three-year contract that makes him the highest-paid defensive back in NFL history.

Sources said Asomugha is guaranteed $28.5 million in a complicated deal that features a provision in which the entire contract can be guaranteed if the Raiders decide to keep the 27-year-old for the third season.
Source: ESPN.com

I may just not have understood what ESPN was trying to say, but aren't all 45.3 million, 3 year contracts fully guaranteed if the team keeps said player for all 3 years? Or is part of the 45.3 million number bonuses that are not payed if he doesn't reach plateaus, but are then paid at the end of the 3rd year even if he didn't reach said plateaus??

Hell, I just confused myself again.

Over-Head 03-26-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6632450)
The Raiders with an actual QB....would be interesting.

Dangerous would be more like it, especially IF our WR's ever learn to catch ;)

Over-Head 03-26-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 6633365)
I disagree Asomugha set his contract up so he can bail with Oakland getting nothing when his contract is up. They need to move him for somthing while they can IMO~

Unfortunatly, THIS
If we lose Namdi, we may as well just sart blitzing every down, cuz we sure as **** ain't gonna have much in the backfield to stop anyone

kcxiv 03-26-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 6634597)
Except the Eagles don't make foolish trades. I can see the Eagles trading McNabb for Aso -- But I don't believe for a minute, the Eagles would throw Asante Samuel into the mix. Why? Asante is as good as Aso -- In fact, I think Asante is better. They both were drafted the same year -- Asante prefers playing zone and Aso seems to play man-to-man.

Actually, I would rather have a DB like Asante that averages 7-9 INT a year -- than have a DB, that supposedly QB's avoid throwing near.

When the Giants played Oakland in 2009, they used eight different WRs, and two RBs to beat Oakland 44-7. Honestly, Aso was a non-factor -- Eli did not avoid his side. In fact, Bradshaw and a couple of receivers blew right past him --

It could have been an off day for Aso. But, if you are the highest paid DB in the NFL, with an annual salary of $16 - $17 million -- you are expected to stop a receiver from catching or advancing the ball. Asante would have had at the very least one game changing INT ... In my opinion, Aso is not a shut-down corner. Also, check out his career INT stats -- None in the past couple of seasons.

I dont know, so I will ask: When was the last time Mike Florio came out with a good scoop?

Rushing ATT YDS TD LG
A. Bradshaw 11 110 2 24
B. Jacobs 21 67 0 12
D. Carr 4 27 1 12
G. Johnson 5 16 0 11

Receiving REC YDS TD LG
S. Smith 3 70 0 43
A. Bradshaw 1 55 0 55
H. Nicks 4 49 1 17
M. Manningham 2 36 1 30
D. Johnson 3 26 0 13
T. Beckum 2 12 0 11
B. Jacobs 1 8 0 8
D. Hagan 1 7 0 7

I rather have a QB that doesnt get thrown his way at all. It eliminates their best player it makes it a ****ton easier to gameplan for. Give me a shutdown corner like that every single day over someone who will get 7-9 int's. I am going to guess by avoiding Aso, you are going to get the turn overs, but just by other people.

SAUTO 03-26-2010 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 6634603)
Anyway, I hope it's true -- In that case, the Giants get the better deal -- Aso.

i guess i didnt follow, when/how did the giants get involved?
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TheGuardian 03-26-2010 06:23 PM

The Raiders with McNabb are still a dog shit double digit loss team. That defense sucks and so does their WR's and backs.

SAUTO 03-26-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6636267)
The Raiders with McNabb are still a dog shit double digit loss team. That defense sucks and so does their WR's and backs.

i disagree here, they just need a qb to be a competitive team.
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Mecca 03-26-2010 06:28 PM

They'd probably be a 7-9 win team with McNabb so they'd go from being shitty to being mediocre.

The problem is I seriously doubt Philly wants that Asomugha contract.

ToxSocks 03-26-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6636277)
They'd probably be a 7-9 win team with McNabb so they'd go from being shitty to being mediocre.

The problem is I seriously doubt Philly wants that Asomugha contract.

Ima have to disagree. I'd say they're a 10 win team and possible Wild card birth with McNabb. They're decent at the skill positions.

Mecca 03-26-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6636281)
Ima have to disagree. I'd say they're a 10 win team and possible Wild card birth with McNabb. They're decent at the skill positions.

They're ok, they have speed, Murphy has some talent, Zach Miller is good...their line is pretty bland and if they'd get Michael Bush the ball and use McFadden properly they could do something there..

But their defense still has holes, more than anything they need an end and a CB, have fun trying to fill that.

TheGuardian 03-26-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6636273)
i disagree here, they just need a qb to be a competitive team.
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Not really. That defensive front is unreal bad against the run. And have been for quote some time. And outside of Aso, their secondary is atrocious.

Their backs and WR's are nothing either. McBusten hasn't done anything, has no balance or vision, and is just a colossal bust.

Simply inserting a decent QB on a bad team will make them a little better, but that team has drafted so poorly their talent pool is even more shallow than the Chiefs.

RNR 03-26-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6636369)
Not really. That defensive front is unreal bad against the run. And have been for quote some time. And outside of Aso, their secondary is atrocious.

Their backs and WR's are nothing either. McBusten hasn't done anything, has no balance or vision, and is just a colossal bust.

Simply inserting a decent QB on a bad team will make them a little better, but that team has drafted so poorly their talent pool is even more shallow than the Chiefs.

Nobody is more critical of Oakland than I but you take is uninformed. The secondary part is laughable~

TheGuardian 03-26-2010 07:45 PM

Because Huff grabbed a bunch of picks early in the season? Hardly. The Raiders front 7 is beyond atrocious and has been for years and years now. There really isn't much denying that as the Raiders have ranked near last in rush defense in some form or fashion for a long time now. Kirk Morrison is garbage, as is Thomas Howard against the run. Tommy Kelly? Dog shit. Seymour had a GREAT impact............in the first game of the season against the Chargers.

Adding McNabb might make the Raiders more competitive but they would still be a double digit loss team.

RNR 03-26-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6636435)
Because Huff grabbed a bunch of picks early in the season? Hardly. The Raiders front 7 is beyond atrocious and has been for years and years now. There really isn't much denying that as the Raiders have ranked near last in rush defense in some form or fashion for a long time now. Kirk Morrison is garbage, as is Thomas Howard against the run. Tommy Kelly? Dog shit. Seymour had a GREAT impact............in the first game of the season against the Chargers.

Adding McNabb might make the Raiders more competitive but they would still be a double digit loss team.

I disagree but whatever the difference between 6-10 and 8-8 matters little to me~

Quesadilla Joe 04-03-2010 05:03 PM

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Glazer: Redskins among teams to inquire about McNabb

We've heard vague assertions lately that there were a few mystery teams to show interest in Donovan McNabb that haven't been disclosed publicly.

According to Fox's Jay Glazer, the Redskins have inquired about McNabb.

Since we can already hear the denials and explanations coming, let's make it clear Glazer doesn't say what level of interest. He also discloses the news in a tweet, not a report.

The likelihood of the Eagles sending McNabb to a division rival seems very low unless Washington gave up a truly massive deal. And the Redskins figure to see if they can finagle Sam Bradford first.

Glazer also says Andy Reid cares about finding the right home for McNabb:

"[The] team is trying to trade him someplace he'll be happy," Glazer writes. "Have offers but Andy is trying to do him right."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-about-mcnabb/

I hope Shanahan gets him. McNabb is the perfect fit for his offense.


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