Best Beginner Electric Guitar?
 

My nephew's bday is this week and I have a quick question...

What is the best electric guitar for a kid to begin with?

Yamaha? Epiphone?

Suggestions?

We bought my son a Epiphone and it's been good enough for him. They're made by Gibson and very affordable.

fender squire strats aren't bad.

Metallica

you could always do a starter kit too ... lots of different brands around with a wide price range.

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I'd recommend an inexpensive Epiphone Les Paul

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...tar?sku=518334

Esteban........Gift of Guitar.

http://www.entertainment-arizona.com.../esteban_2.jpg

Epiphone, Squier, Rogue

Yamaha

http://i44.tinypic.com/nl536e.jpg

th^t one is pretty damned good.

If you're wanting to buy an amp as well, I'd recommend this Marshall to go along with the Epi Les Paul I linked:

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/p...ack?sku=501642

I had an Epiphone for my first guitar. A couple of my friends had Squire strats.

Either is a fine beginner guitar.

I don't know if he was joking or not but the Estiban guitars are good starter sets and my son still has his 4 years later, as he has advanced. Check HSN lots of nice packages.

I know nothing about guitars but there was a recent deal posted to slickdeals.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2011772

Seems like decent prices for that guitar
http://www.worldmusicsupply.com/sear...x?si=&sp=d10sr

Dammit, you beat me to it. I was gonna recommend this one:

http://blog.nola.com/checkitout/2009/01/gh.jpg

I'd go with the Epi. I have one, and I still play it, even though I have a Les Paul.

that one is pretty awesome. I jammed so hard on it i broke the whammy bar though and their warranties suck.

Interesting. I had a friend whose girlfriend bought him one, and it was a piece of junk. Numerous dead frets. I wonder if he just got unlucky, or rather if you got lucky.

I would recommend going with the electric. Kids are interested in that kind of stuff, and they will get bored with an acoustic very fast. Not to mention, acoustics are A LOT harder to play, and his young virgin fingers will be hurting for a week after playing that acoustic for a good 2 hrs or so.

I'd go electric and I'd probably go used. Used guitars are generally a lot cheaper (unless they are vintage). You can't go wrong with a Fender strat or telecaster...but you might want to touch base with what the kids are playing. Epiphones are plenty nice too.

My wife's cousin is about 14 and all he could talk about was a "guitar with 24 frets, blah blah blah." I had an old Ibanez RG550 that was once neon yellow that I had stripped all the paint off when I thought Nuno Betancourt was cool. I'm letting him borrow it for as long as he wants. I wouldn't be caught near a stage with it, but he seems cool with it.

I've had good luck with eBay, but your mileage may vary.

First guitar I ever owned was called The Terminator and it had a built in speaker. Picked it up at Toys R US for about $70 or $80 if memory serves. Had some fun with that thing.

As for the many suggestions of an Epiphone, I agree. Cheap version of a Les Paul. Decent guitar for a beginner.

You could also go with a Strat Squier.

In any case, just about anything that will play to get them started. I wouldn't spend too much dough as kids change their interests and you never know if it will be something he or she sticks with.

Nice, I had one as well. I had wanted a Jem, but couldn't afford it (in retrospect I can say thank god for that).

How old is your nephew?

Keep in mind an acoustic doesn't have the "annoying the parents" factor, as much.

do the parents a huge favor and get him an earphone output on the amp. Make sure the amp has one anyway, some don't.

All things considered, they are really nice playing guitars and put together well. Image-wise, it would never fit what I do now (alt-country and singer-songwriter stuff), but it was a really nice guitar. Super easy to play and you could really shred with that thin neck.

I was in a major Dave Navarro phase when I bought it - and he was playing Ibanez guitars back in the original Jane's days. For what I spent on it, I probably could have gotten a nice 70s Tele Deluxe that would be worth some coin now.

I know nothing about electric guitars, but when I bought my son a bass guitar this summer, I found a 3/4 bass guitar which of course is smaller in size and fit him better. Depending on the age, this might be a thought to consider.

This is a good suggestion in my opinion, Mr. AustinChief. Inexpensive, but sounds good enough to foster an interest in playing. Cool looking, too, and that's critically important for a young guy who's just getting started and would prefer that the girls in his class beg him for sex.

FAX

very true. Good Advice. At 17 i wasted $$ on an axe and amp, etc. Never practiced enough or got lessons and i lost interest and sold them. Ten yrs later i bought an accoustic and i have a bigger interest but still just messing around, nothing serious. If i have the time though i can easily waste away a night trying to learn different songs off of youtube instructional vids.

Yes, yes, yes!!! You must get earphones to go with it!!

depends on how much he likes the parents. :)

Very true, and if he doesn't like them I'd recommend a Marshall stack.

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might need to recommend a good drywall contractor too!

Squier Strat. It's what I learned on. Cheap, but effective.

Do your nephew a favor, as much as he probably won't like it, get him an acoustic. Get him a cheap electric and cheap amp if you must to keep him happy but I would strongly encourage that if lessons are going to be involved that he take them on an acoustic. Trust me. It will pay off for him and he will recognize that quickly as well. Make him take the lessons and practice on his acoustic. When he grabs the electric he will shred a lot easier.

Terrible advice.

Most likely, he won't play due to pain to his fingers and wrists, not to mention the fact that unless he's into campfire songs, it's not too much fun to learn an AC/DC song (let alone Van Halen or Stone Sour tune) on an uncomfortable acoustic guitar.

If he wants to learn how to play, get him a nice playing electric with low action to make it as easy as possible to learn and stay interested.

This. I tried learning on an acoustic and it just hurt. Your fingers aren't strong enough and your callouses aren't built up enough to really do anything, let alone barre chords.

Break in and learn finger placement and such on an electric, then switch to the acoustic. Otherwise he'll probably just give up because it's too hard.

Bullshit. First off I said get him an electric to go with the acoustic if that's what the kid wants.

Secondly anyone who has ever played a guitar will tell you that learning on an acoustic makes playing an electric a lot easier. Training your fingers on an acoustic is one of THE BEST things any guitarist can do. Learning your chords and scales on an acoustic will make playing AC\DC and Van Halen a ton easier on an electric.

The problem is most kids won't switch to an acoustic. We can fundamentally disagree here if need be. I think the best thing anyone can do when wanting to learn the guitar is to learn their chords and scales on an acoustic. Exactly for the reason that it does make you stretch more and work harder for chords. Thus when you grab the axe suddenly that 3-5-7 stretch is being done with your index, middle and ring finger instead of index, middel\ring and pinkie. Suddenly those power chords are being barred with two fingers instead of 3.

Plus I would add you learn a lot better picking technique on an acoustic. It's easy to cheat on electric. Especially with the distortion cranked up.

LMAO

This is ****ing laughable.

When you're talking about a child who wants to play guitar, LET HIM PLAY THE ****ING GUITAR.

Don't stick him with some cheap ass acoustic with high action and say "You'll thank me for this some day".

LMAO

You truly are one of the dumbest humans to ever post on the 'Planet.

LMAO

Really? Are you telling us that by turning up the gain on your amp, thus inducing a large amount of harmonic distortion, you'll fool the listener into believing that you're a good player, when in actuality, you're not?

LMAO

Please, keep 'em coming!

LMAO

I learned on an electric and had only bought an acoustic a good 12 years after I started playing. So I see what a lot of you guys are saying. But yeah. if you want the little bastard to actually play and keep an interest.

Buy an electric, a small little marshall combo and a subscription to Guitar World.

Little Timmy wants to rock and rock now. I understand how physically it could benefit him in playing on an acoustic. But let's think of the social issues you could bring up for the kid if he gets an acoustic. Say he uses an acoustic and he ends up being that douche bag at parties who learned enough 3 chord songs to serenade girls at a party. While yes...that will get you laid but the only thing he'll need his acoustic finger strength is for when he starts finger banging little miss Mary rotten crotch.

If he gets an electric...he may rock. And no girls pay any attention to him.

Plus there are way too many guitar players.


So buy him a drum set instead.

One day I'll be as dumb as you.

Well you have to admit that whole gain dimed and mids scouped phase of young guitar playing is kind of horrible.

But it doesn't cover up the fact that many of those people can't play

Yeah ... although it's true that a lot of guitarists work out riffs on the acoustic (the general rule of thumb is that, if you can knock it out on the acoustic, you can definitely play it on the electric), if it were me, I'd rather my first axe be an electric. If I'm starting out, I'd rather sound like Van Halen than Van Morrison. Besides, electric guitars look cooler.

FAX

Of course, but you can't deny you get away with sloppy playing w/ a lot more gain.

I'm finding this out now that I've gone from a heavy sounding band to a surf band. Going from High gain Mesa/Marshall set ups to a Fender clean w/ just a hint of overdrive has made me clean up the playing considerably.

Well no doubt it looks cooler and sounds cooler. But if someone is to ask me for advice I would have to say the best way to learn is on an acoustic. That's not to say to not buy them an electric as they start to learn.

Not from my standpoint. If someone's a sloppy player, it doesn't matter if they're playing through a Framus Cobra or a '65 Fender Twin.

Sloppy is sloppy.

Well, that's cool! Whatever makes you better player...

And probably 9.5 times out of 10, that kid is going to quit because it's too difficult and doesn't sound like the music they're learning and wanting to emulate.

Unless they're learning campfire songs.

And for the record, it makes absolutely no difference if a player decides to pick up the acoustic guitar later. They're two completely different instruments and it's ridiculous to imply they're the same.

It's to the point now it's insane. Don't get me wrong, Zak Wylde is a decent player, but a friend of mine sent me a youtube link of him live and I swear there was so many layers of tone and gain that really it just turned me off of the whole thing. I am all for cranking the gain to 10 and shredding but it seems that these days these guitarists are depending on gear for their sound and not their fingers. If you plugged Zak Wylde into a standard Marshall stack he would probably sound like shit cause he doesn't have the tons upon tons of distortion to get the sound for him. Just my opinion.

Excuse me? They are both guitars with the same amount of strings and the notes are the same. Yea, you can do a lot more stunt work on an electric. But you get the best fundamentals from playing an acoustic. You'll have better stretcing ability, better ability for chords and your picking will be more solid.

And all I said, Dane, was to take lessons and learn the chords and scales and practice the chords and scales on an acoustic. Then if you want, pick up the electric and apply what you learned and practiced on the acoustic. View it as using a donut on your baseball bat before you get in the batter's box.

You're opinion is of course, incorrect.

I'm not the biggest Zakk fan in the world (for reasons I'm not going to detail in this forum) but having been in the same room with him on a number of occasions, he's not sloppy, whatsoever.

He's boring, redundant and hasn't come up with a cool lick in 22 years, but he can most certainly play.

And he can even play his Epiphone acoustic in which his tech scalloped the fingerboard.

LMAO

He'd sound like Zakk Wylde no matter what you plugged him into. What I don't get is why so many people like his tone. But then again I don't like boosting and I hate stereo chorus sounds....Also I get it, you like pinch harmonics. Cool, that's enough!

Talented guy though.

I don't care what you and Zak did in a room together that turned you off of him. I said he was a decent player.

Urine idiot.

Go ahead an play "Stranger Things Have Happened" by the Foo Fighters on your Strat or Les Paul and tell me it's the same instrument.

While they share six strings and possibly the same tuning (unless you've opted for an open or Nashville tuning on either), they're as different as the bass guitar and stand up bass.

But I'm sure that you recommend that anyone wanting to learn bass guitar start with as stand up as well.

LMAO

I started off with an acoustic guitar when I was a kid and then I went to an electric guitar in my teens. The electric drove my parents and the entire family crazy because I did nothing but crank the speakers up in my room.

I learned better with the acoustic because there were no distractions, and as a kid, I focused better on the acoustic.

Sadly, I lost interest in playing all together because I did not come from a musical family and this is one of the most important things for a kid wanting to learn a musical instrument- having a family with strong musical ties, someone to practice with, someone to jam with, learning songs, playing songs together, etc. It's very challenging when you go it alone.

What? NO you did not (and FTR, it wasn't one incident).

That's as big an insult as you could possibly hurl upon someone that you've never seen or heard play outside of a record.

Well, I love pinch harmonics. Though I am more partial to their use as applied by Lynch and Satriani. And he had a good sound with his 1st round with Ozzy. His sound in this clip from BLC was just so overly prorcessed sounding it was not very appealing to me.

Dane, go back and read a little slower. I most certainly said Zak Wylde was a decent player.

You hurl insults at people you don't know all the time. So what's the dif?

I don't care for his "tone" because it's so processed.

I can't get into too much detail here (I prefer my identity stay private), Zakk used TWO Boss DS-1's in front of his JCM800 - one for rhythm and one for lead, along with TWO Dunlop Rotovibe's.

Jimmy Dunlap and I freakin' drank our asses off in Vegas one night and the punchline was always "Two ROTOVIBES!".

My wife didn't think it was so funny.

You said he was decent, then said he probably sucked when not plugged into a Marshall.

Yeah, that's quite an endorsement.

I liked the Metaltronix amps he used on No Rest for the Wicked. He had a good thick tone that didn't sound so processed on that album.

I hear his tone and just hear that high end haze no matter what era. But then again...tone isn't everything, but it helps.

I don't however imagine him being able to ping his way through a set with a twin and a strat.

I said he probably wouldn't sound as good if he WAS plugged into a standard Marshall stack. I could be wrong. It's just my experience that when someone uses such a processed sound like he does there is a reason.

Then again I had a guitar teacher friend of mine swear Zak was better than Satriani. I will disagree with that but to each their own, I guess.

Well in this clip I saw he was even using active pickups. I cringe at those. Hate em'! Now, I like hot pickups, I have a Duncan Invader in my Ibanez, which used to be anyway the hottest pickup you could use without going active. Just something about plugging batteries into a guitar that rubs me the wrong way.

It's weird...If you told me someones rig was a JCM 800 w/ 6550 power tubes, boosted w/ an OD with a wah, rotovibe and chorus pedal. I wouldn't think it would sound processed.

Then tell me I had to use EMG's in a Les Paul...then I might understand.

No, Zakk is nowhere near the player of Satriani. Not even close.

He's a redundant, pentatonic player with a history of constantly repeating himself.

He's not even close technically (or creatively) to Randy Rhodes or Jake (who was a ****ing monster player), let alone a genius like Satch.

That guy was either pulling your leg or a ****ing idiot.

I hate Lee Jackson more than you can imagine

I'd be very surprised if Zak Wylde wasn't running some heavy compression in his chain somewhere.

TWO DS-1's (not OD-1's) and TWO Rotovibes.

That's a lot of shit.

And I am no fan of EMG's.

Nope, just the distortion pedals

Yea but that was a good thick sound. Although he did dub his rythms 4 times over on that album too.

Are they cranked all the way up? Along with heads being cranked to 10 as well?

Let us get one thing straight. Randy Rhodes is GOD! George Lynch and Joe Satriani are his Angels.

And the guy who told me that is a twanger anyway with his tele's. He had a woody for Zak cause he could do chicken pickin'.

Oh I got what you were saying. I might understand that if they were set up at different parts of the stage and or had different settings.

But the two rotovibes...wouldn't you just need one since they're stereo?

Zakk sometimes has them set the same and sometimes differently.

As I said earlier, Jim(my) Dunlop and I got a good laugh over it.

As for the DS-1's (the orange ones), he'd have one always on as his rhythm sound, then kick in the second for his leads.

What no Ampeg Vl-1001 love?

Didn't Jackson mod a lot of those amps of guys mentioned previously (Wylde, Lee, Lynch.)?