Who is going to win Carwin or Lesnar
 

What say you?

I'm rooting for Carwin. Lesnar's a freak, but I don't know that he's been hit by a guy with that kind of power just yet.

Of course, if Lesnar gets him (or anybody else) on his back, It's probably over.

I'll take Carwin, I guess. The whole world knows exactly what Lesnar is going to do. If Carwin can avoid a takedown or two, and deliver a couple of those bombs, it'll be an entirely different fight.

Carwin is going to win.

Lesnar hasn't fought since UFC 100, which was July 11, 2009. UFC 116 takes place on July 3, 2010.

A year without fighting won't help Lesnar.

Kind of surprised he does not want a tune up fight~

Is this for the WWF title or something?

Since they never said what kind of illness nearly did Lesnar in, I'm going to say Carwin.

I'd like to see Carwin beat Lesnar by decapitation.

I am picking Lesnar but the long layoff concerns me~

:grr:

ROFL

hope Lesnar wins only so it sets up a bigger fight between him and Fedor.

Heads up, WEC 49 is on Versus right now.

I'd bet a LOT of money that fedor/lesner never happens.

Some badass diverticulitis was causing shit to seep into his stomach. On top of that he had mono.
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the ONLY reason i want lesnar to win i s to keep the hope alive that fedor will get to be the one....
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FYP

not me he has had what 5 total career fights maybe? lol

i actually deleted that part of my post in the fathers day spirit
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sadly, I'll agree with that. but it's all the more reason to hope Lesnar wins - if he does, a fight with Fedor would make so much money it'd be silly for either party to not make it happen. It'd be the UFC's version of Ali - Frazier and Leonard - Hagler rolled into one.

Just an opinion,but I'd say Fedor would absolutely DESTROY Lesnar.

Carwin wins by smashing his fists into Lesnars face. His clinch and dirty boxing will be key, although he won't be able to bully him like he did Mir.

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I'm going with Lesnar

For what it's worth Carwin is a Bronco fan he is from Greeley, CO.

Lesnar's the better athlete so I'm going with him. It's a toss up, though. I might have to work the night of this fight. I hope not.

The World Wildlife Fund has titles?

Lesnar.

Bigger, stronger, faster is usually hard to counter.

Lesnar.

Ground n pound....Lesnar wins.

Fedor's a pussy.

He's proven that by not wanting to fight in the UFC.

Plain n simple. There's no counter argument to that.

he doesnt want to get into a randy couture situation. i cant say that i blame him. he also thinks dana white is a jackass and i also agree

blink .. its over ....

Well, he is a smart jackass who helped take the UFC from the brink of collapse to what it is today.

still doesnt change the fact that he's a jackass, and he rubs many fighters the wrong way.

Mostly just the ones with big egos who think they are bigger than the organization, i.e. Tito and Dan Henderson.

I was going to say Lesnar until Buck made this great point.

BUT, if Lesnar does come in "fight" shape, I'd expect Lesnar would get carwin to the ground as soon as possible and control him for the entire fight. Basically, what GSP did to Dan Hardy.

Oh, And Im taking Carwin, if I didn't make that clear

That is the same concern most have is ring rust. I don't really care who wins, and I gather many hate Lesnar because he was a WWF wrestler. I don't follow pro wrestling so he does not matter to me. I think you nailed it as far as Lesnar bulldoging him and keeping it on the ground. If he can do that I like his chances. I heard him talking about Carwin not wanting to trade punches with him. I think he is just talking smack because if he stands toe to toe with this guy, Carwin's chances improve and his lessen IMO I am still taking Lesnar~

I dont think carwin will get out once Lesnar gets him on the ground I'm going for lesnar but this is gonna be a amazing fight either way

I don't hate Lesnar. I actually like him, be brings great entertainment value to the sport. As far as his smack goes, maybe he's just trying to play Carwin, make Carwin focus on his stand up rather than his ground game even though Lesnar probably has no intent to stand with him at all. Lesnar is not a great boxer, standing with Carwin is suicide for him IMO.

What should be interesting is how much damage can Carwin do to Lesnar from the bottom. That guy has tremendous power while punching in short distances. And I don't think Carwin will be able to push Lesnar against the fence and pound him either.

Carwin will have to box with him, defend his takedowns and be prepared to do damage from the bottom. I hope Carwin has his Cardio up.

I dont think so either. Once Lesnar mounts him, I don't see Carwin getting out of it. Unless he can strike from the bottom enough to take some of that power out of Lesnar.

I am looking forward to it also. Unless while ill Lesnar caught a case of the dumbass, this goes to the mat quick. That said I would love to see the big boys swat it out :)

huh really? better check again



rampage
cro cop
fedor
the list goes on and on

I just hope this fight dont turn into a Rampage vs Evans type that match was just miserable to watch

Don't be shocked if it is just that. Lesnar laying on him waiting him out~

Pretty much. This is most likely what will happen. Maybe we'll get lucky and Carwin will be able to defend Lesnar's takedowns and make him stand up and box.

How awesome would it be to see Lesnar get laid the **** out?

Anyhow, more reason why I wish the rest of the fight card was better.

it was mono, as reported..many times

Would be great if whoever does it stands over him and talks shit like he would.:clap:

No, it wasn't, dumbass.

Brock you have always been one of favotite posters. That said I have always wondered when you would come out of your shell. This beating around the bush crap is getting old. Speak up Brock say what you mean damn it~

Ring rust is a real thing. Brock was able to get by in his first few fights simply by being bigger and strong than those guys. That isn't the case this time and Carwin might hit harder than anyone in all of MMA. It won't get out of the first round and Carwin is going to beat his face in.

I disagree but would not be shocked if you are right. Carwin certainly has the ability to clock him out. That said that only happens is Lesnar is willing to stand and trade, that and don't kid yourself Lesnar has the power to check Carwin at the door also. I see this going to the mat quickly and if the ring rust allows it and Carwin can stuff the take down he may indeed knock him out. I am betting against Carwin because I don't think he gets the chance to to hit and ends up on bottom and running out of gas~

I think they'll box for a little while. but once lesnar gets chin checked, straight to the mat it goes, where it will remain for the next 4 rounds.

He is a fool if he does IMO He is a big kid and has the power to drop Carwin if he lands. However he is playing into Carwins hand I cannot imagine why he would~

Entertainment value. He's from the WWF, so he understands putting on a good show. Hence all the trash talk etc. Which is why i like him. Sports are better when you add the drama of trash talk. He has the ego and attitude to do it. I think he'll want too. But if he gets rocked early, he'll put that shit to the side and trade it in for some ground and pound.

Unlike GSP, who does not understand the value of entertainment.

Let's look at their wresteling accomplishments.

Lesnar-
Amateur wrestling
Big Ten Conference
Big Ten Conference Championship (1999, 2000)
Ranked the #1 Heavyweight in the Big Ten Conference (2000)
National Collegiate Athletic Association
NCAA Division I runner-up (1999)
NCAA Division I Championship (2000)
North Dakota State University's annual Bison tournament
Heavyweight Championship (1997–1999)[113]
National Junior College Athletic Association
NJCAA All-American (1997, 1998)
Junior College National Championship (1998)

Carwin-
NCAA Division II National Wrestling Heavyweight Runner-Up 1996–97 (2 times)
NCAA Division II Wrestling Heavyweight Champion (1999)

Carwin can wrestle with Lesnar but Lesnar can't box with Carwin.

He does understand the value of winning~

And it is as simple as that~

Uhm.....Lesnar's list looks a helluva lot more impressive than Carwin's, so Im not sure how you reached that conclusion. I don't doubt carwin can wrestle, I just don't think there is much he can do with that ****ing monster laying on top of him.

Look at the way he dominated Mir.

I agreed that Lesnar should not box, that said I don't think Carwin wants any part of the ground game~

Im not sure the time off will matter much. It's not like he has a ton of technique...

1) tackle guy
2) smother guy/punch guy
3) insult beer company
4) get on top of wife

LMAO post of the thread~

I think this may be the case as well. This is easily the toughest competition Lesnar has faced. Carwin handled Mir like it was nothing.

Mir sucks.

I dont recall Lesnar ever talking shit over someone.

I bet you're referring to the time in UFC 100 Lesnar ****ed Mir up, Mir didn't know where he was at for about 15min and Brock went over and said "Talk shit now mother f'r". Which as you recall, it was Mir that was talking shit on Lesnar to begin with.

That crybaby got what he deserved.

Yeah, Mir is quite a bit past his prime, but he has a win against Lesnar, doesn't he?

Lesnar was a 137 years old, he is always lyin bout his age~

As a side note...

Mir's got a pretty bright future as a commentator when he's done. He's really good on the WEC shows. Florian's very good too. (And he's already done some work for ESPN.)

The one annoying thing about Mir is the fact that he continually says "he gots to" rather than "He's got to". Minor, but annoying.

UFC offered him the biggest most insane ($$$) MMA contract for a handful of fights. I know a lot of people don't like Dana White, but Bud Selig is the biggest ****ing idiot in all of pro league commish's and you don't see MLB players saying "I don't like Selig, I'm going to Japan to play, it's a great league w/ great players".

In Strikeforce, since they're so small, just like Affliction, are pretty much basing most of their programming off of Fedor, whom by the way pretty much gets to fight on his terms and nothing else but his terms.

Put it this way, I've heard Lesnar say many times that he'd love to fight Fedor. Not once have I heard Fedor say that he would love to fight Lesnar. Because he doesn't. He knows he's much smaller and much weaker. In a cage, Brock would smother him up against the cage wall and control the fight.

Fedor, nor his bullshit M1 Global company want to see "The Greatest MMA HW Fighter in the World" lable to get taken away although that lable is fading away as he chooses to stay in Strikeforce. The russians want to protect his image.

fluke win, nothing more.

Does Nog suck too? Because Mir beat him too.

I'm just glad there is finally a heavyweight fight that is interesting. I mean, Lesnar vs. Mir 2 got me excited, as did Mir vs. Carwin, but not nearly as excited as this upcoming match.

What's even more interesing is the winner will have to face Velasquez or Dos Santos. I like Carwin in this fight though.

Do you really think there won't be an immediate rematch if Lesnar loses?

Even still, the winner of the rematch would have to fight the next contender, and that would be Brown Pride or Junior.

Lesnar doesn't have a single knock out to his credit. There is a reason for that. His stand up is sub-par and Carwin will expose that. There is no chance in hell that Lesnar stands and trades with Carwin because he'll get KTFO in the first minute.

Lesnar laying on top of Carwin is quite funny. Couture had no problem standing up from Brock being on top over and over again. And Carwin has a great wrestling back ground as well. This one won't get out of the first unless Lesnar simply does some lay n pray.

Nog is WAY past his prime. Suck? Not exactly. He couldn't even finish off a 60 yr old Couture - had to go to decision, to be honest I'm nore sure Mir could either,

Cain Velasquez will get the next Title shot. Dana's pretty much already said that.

I'm just trying to figure out your logic here, Carwin's win over Mir is meaningless, yet Lesnar's win over Mir shows......what?

You act like my reply was blowing you off and totally disagreeing with yours :spock: I think you are underrating Lesnar and that is fine. I am sure you can get all the action you want taking Carwin in a first round knock out. I am sure you could get book with great odds for as much as you can afford. That said I am not a fan of Lesnar or Carwin and I would take a pass on any serious action. I might take some light action against the first round knockout by Carwin :)

If Lesnar had been fighting my take would be different (maybe). I think Lesnar having a year off hurts him a lot.

Lesnar has poor stand up skills. He has relied exclusively on his ability to "bully" guys because of his size. Well he won't be able to do that with Carwin in all likelihood. I also think that Carwin probably knows that Lesnar is going to want to take this to the ground and will force him to stand. Or at least, that will be his game plan.

I don't totally count out Lesnar at all. He has freaky skills for a guy his size. However when you factor in the ring rust, the fact that he's fighting a guy his size that hits like a mac truck and has excellent stand up, well that's a lot going against him. I think Brock even without the ring rust would be looking at his toughest fight ever. Throw in the above factors and I can't see how he would really be favored (but I think he will be because of "name").

If you read through this thread I have said pretty much the same thing. I am however picking Lesnar because of speed and his ability to bulldog opponents. I would not put any real money on it, A. because I really do not know, B. I really do not care~