Nerd alert...CIV 5 coming out on Sept 21...
 

I will have to clear my calendar...I still play Civ 4 way too much. Catherine of Russia RULES.

Only comp game I truly love.

Guess I better clear my calendar for the next month or ten

Howdy O&S,

I was intrigued by your post so I looked up the Civilization game. Very interesting.

Question: Do you reccomend a newbie start out with Civ 1? The technology looked a little old but if it is a sequential thing I guess I'll start at the beginning.

Thanks.

Can't wait.

You will have a tough time getting Civ 1 to work properly. It's not sequential, you don't need to understand the 1st to play the 5th one.

Just try out Civ 5. If you have a console, try out Civilization: Revolution.

Thanks Saul. I'm not a computer gamer (obviously) so dumb question:
what do you mean by "console"?

PS3/XBox 360/Wii.

Civilization V will be PC only. Civ 1, 2, 3 and 4 are PC only.

We have PS3 and Wii. Do you mean I can buy it online through my PS3 at the Playstation store?

I'm saying you won't be able to play Civilization on either of those gaming doo-hickeys.

You can probably go to Wal-Mart and find a copy of Civilization:Revolution for PS3, if you are interested in this type of game.

However, Civilization:Revolution isn't nearly as deep as Civ IV, it offers a similar style of gameplay that you are intrigued by.

LMAO Got ya'. Thanks for kickin the knowledge that you can't learn in college.
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Highly unlikely. The game is nearly impossible to find for the PS3. It went OOP soon after it came out and they didn't make that many copies. I checked all around SD before I found one.

Amazon has it.

Blatantly stolen from Fark:

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Heh, that pretty much sums up my experience with Civ. I'm not very good at it, but I just can't stop playing it sometimes.

Definitely looking forward to this one.

Civilization IV, already a fantastic game, is taken to the next level by the dedicated modding community. The Rise of Mankind mod, in my opinion, should be considered as the third expansion pack.

http://www.atomicgamer.com/files/846...yond-the-sword

Also, this site is fantastic for your Civ needs.

http://www.civfanatics.com

Didn't mean to not answer VP. Saul is right. You don't need 1 to be able to play 4. Be forewarned however, you will never beat this game every time on the upper levels - further, it is addicting as hell.

Start out on Chiefton or so and work your way up. By the time you get to Noble, it'll take you a month to figure out how to beat it.

Civ 4 has a huge following.... I've always wondered why it was so popular, but i never did anything about it...

It must be Age of Empires-like?

Has Sid Meier decided to fix the ****ing combat yet? If I have tanks, I want to be able to demolish the country that is still galloping cavalry around.

It's turn based, not real time.

ahhh, so more of a Lords of the Realm II or Lords of Magic type game.

Never played either, but I highly doubt it. Civ is pretty much one of a kind. It's like an insanely deep board game. Still, for my money, I'll take the Total War games where I can nation-build without foregoing the control of my armies. I like to be the ruler AND the general. BO!

Im not a gamer at all and i love civ. Its super fun once you figure out how to automate all the worker bees.

Thanks for the tip O&S, I'm going to start on it this weekend. If I get addicted I'll have you to thank/curse :)

from the way you describe it, it's eerily similar to Lords of the Realm 2.

Yeah, I just read up on it. It is like that except deeper. :) Good call.

I absolutely love civ I,II and III but they kind of lost me after that

civ IV is ok but i guess i don't like the change is the diplomacy part of the game.

Civ 1 was and is the best Civ game.

Civ is way more than Lords of the Realm 2.

Thank you. I'll look for it although it sounds hard to find.

Every Civ iteration has been awesome and has outdone the previous version with added layers of depth and strategy. I don't even care about the graphics improvements, though they're nice. It's the strategy that I love, and in each new version, they have improved from the last.

For my part, I see it as the most awesome and elegant strategy game of all time. I'm looking forward to Civ V.

Don't bother. If you're looking for a place to start with Civ, find Civ 2.

Civ 3 is a much better game than Civ 2, though. The diplomacy and cultural options make it much better. Civ 4 streamlined and expanded on the concepts that they introduced in Civ 3.

I'd be suprised if you could even find a version of Civ 1 that would work on a modern computer.

Civ 4 is the best Civ to date, and without a doubt, Civ 5 will make Civ 4 obsolete. Sid Meier doesn't jerk with his franchise.

BTW... Civ is not a sequential thing. They just keep improving the previous versions by adding new concepts and strategies to pursue (and of course, graphics).

If you're looking for an entry point Civ V is going to be just as good as any. Just play on the easy mode until you're ready to move up.

The bottom line for Civ: The game is easy to learn but difficult to master.

He screwed up Railroad Tycoon. The first was awesome, then, not so much.

Thanks TJ.

I guess you are lost, bro.

I was gathering that...

Still loved LOTR2 though.

Might have to give Civ 4 a look..


Is there somewhere online that everyone plays?

That's one franchise that I always wanted to, but never actually got down to playing.

I wish Sid Meier would make another SimGolf.

If you ever feel retro, only play the first one.

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dam fingers never type what my brain is thinking :cuss:

I go retro quite often actually. I have Masters of Orion II on deck right now, but probably won't get to it until well after I'm done with Starcraft II and then Civ V.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/16/ci...deo/#continued

13 minute gameplay video.

God I can not wait.

Pretty farmlands.

Thanks Saul...I am looking forward to it as well. Removing the stacks of doom and playing only one unit per tile is going to change everything...I am thinking that an entirely new level of strategy is going to be warranted.

Agreed - I think it will make individuals units much more useful. I often did not produce certain units, especially ranged units, because it was easier and quicker just to produce a mass amount of foot soldiers (swordsman, rifleman, infantry, etc).

:drool:

Almost unlock time!

To call in sick, or not to call in sick...

I'll help. Call in sick, and then give me updates/reviews about the game.

FYP buddy!

Anyone? Come on, first impressions, the public wants to know.

I will be home in about an hour to begin playing.

Should have called in sick

So far: Wow.

The interface is so, so much cleaner and less cluttered than previous games. I've used the mouse the entire time even though I was so used to using the keyboard. I also like the notifications on the right side, and the way everything is presented. Graphics are beautiful.

Gold plays a much more pivotal role. You have to buy tiles to expand your borders, rather than normal growth via culture.

No more religion. Everything is done via "Social Policy" - which is kind of like the tech tree, you adopt certain policies which restrict you from adopting others, and you have prerequisites for others.

Combat - love it. No more stacking units. If a unit requires a special resource, you can only build one of those units if you only have one of that resource. Once you discover optics your units can "embark" - move on water!? WTF? They are useless in water though, so you have to be careful. It seems they are doing this to get rid of transport units...which I like.

Luxury resources - only 1 benefits you. Any others past that, you should just trade them.

City states - kind of annoying so far, but somewhat beneficial.

Haven't gotten in to diplomacy much yet, only have 1 bordering civilization, and he's behaved.

Currently in the Medieval era (Ancient, Classical, Medieval), so i'll have more to report later.

Damn it...I have to teach tonight 7-10. But tomorrow baby!!!! Did you start at Noble/lower/higher? Are the leaders about the same?

Ok - I was wrong, your borders DO expand when they gain enough culture, it is just slower than previous games.

All Civ leaders have different bonuses.

I started out on Chieftain - it is extremely easy like previous games.

From what I read, the AI doesn't necessarily get better on higher levels, but units have more hit points, research faster, etc...pretty much like the previous games.

Okay, I'm playing as Japan and my city is demanding sugar and I have no idea how to get it for them.

Holy shit. I need a new video card for this game. My GTS 250 is beyond terrible. Everything has to be set at low!

I'm wondering about the "game length."

I always played CIV3 on conquest, and even playing 2 or 3 hours a night would have games that sometimes lasted for months before conquering the world.

Is it like that or more like the 2-5 hour quick games that you saw out of IV on the PS3?...

I've been playing a game on Chieftan for about 6 hours now and I don't think I'm really close to the end of this game.

Are there any sugar resources in your territory that you can build a plantation on?

If not, you can trade for it with other civilizations, or have a city state give you some.

I am on a "Play Now" session (preloaded rules, nothing special) on Chieftain, 4 hours in to the game, and i'm in the Industrial era.

Nevermind on the vid card. New drivers did it.

Game is dope as ****.

I'm at work. Reading the game manual. Sigh.

LMAO

Go next door and borrow a cup from Korea.

LMAO

Yeah, I'm still in the Medieval Era, but I am a n00b (only played Civ Rev), so its probably going to take me longer.

Something I always wished for Civ was that the transitions to new ages would go slower. I have a lot of fun with the earlier parts of a game, but then it seems like in no time I am running around with tanks and battleships when I wish it was still muskets and guys with spears. Love the game, and I'm sure I'll love this one when I manage to get my hands on it, but I'm sure I'll see myself progressing through the ages and wish it would have been a little harder/more time consuming to do so.

I'm worried in my game right now because I have 1 unmet character, and he's already built like 4 or 5 wonders. I think you can win by building them all...not sure.

Is the only place to buy CIV2, 3, etc. the actual game site or are there alternative places with lower prices?

Why do you want the older games? If you're new to civilization, I'd just start with the current one.

http://www.bestoldgames.net/eng/old-...lization-2.php

http://www.brothersoft.com/games/sid...ation-iii.html

Several here have given me the same, no doubt good, advice. Still, having never played any of them I would like to know how it used to be in order to fully get what it has grown into.
I'm strange like that.

Thanks Laz:thumb:

No, **** that. Civ V is so radically different that it's pointless to learn the old systems.

Maybe you should start with THIS instead to get the full scope of growth. ;)

I started a new game because my last one turned into a cluster****....I had way too many units compared to everyone else...

Anyways, I chose random leader and got China, and that god damn Algonquin Indian kept asking me to side with him then he'd build cities right off my border. I finally had enough and wiped out all but 2 of his cities. I took over 3 of them and burned 2 of them. I already got his original Capitol. When I get back on tonight I'm going to eliminate him. I'm wanting to get to the Industrial Era or whatever, I really want railroads (and planes).

I wonder how they are going to do the planes. In Civ Rev, you have 2 moves to do shit then get back to your base or else you run out of gas and crash.

My favorite way to play Civ: maximum civilizations.

It's a hell of a ride when you've got 19 civilizations battling it out.